The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:37 pm why wasn't nanook shot?

Mafia thought Nanook wouldn't fake a red as real cop and leveled themselves into thinking Kami/I would drop cover and let him continue if we had him as town (which I did EoD1/Kami peeked him)

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

@JaggedJimmyJay hammer

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:44 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:41 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:40 pm tbh I don't care if you town read me or not cause it's already been shown you don't

so I'm just considering why you reject your lifeline

and I think it's probably more scummy than towny. I don't think you see me pushing nanook like I did and also being divided by the votes and obviously caring and still go "I'm going to scum read this person" if you're town. You're being way too set in your reads
I don't view your push on Nanook as genuine, especially when you say he was scummy D1 but didn't suggest that people should move to wagon him over Creature and Syn.
how many times does it need to be explained why I didn't vote in checks day 1 cause lmao at this entire post
Yet, you encouraged people to wagon Creature, who was my check.

lmfao

I syn to tie it, you pushed the vote over onto Allison, I voted creature to put him up with no intention of staying as was obvious, and literally after I voted him I said move to syn so I can unvote you

like, that I wanted syn to be the wagon is undeniable

honestly I'm tired of explaining what's already in thread. You're mafia

and this is exactly my point

do you think I care about day 1 stuff? Cause that seems to be all you do care about

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:41 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:40 pm tbh I don't care if you town read me or not cause it's already been shown you don't

so I'm just considering why you reject your lifeline

and I think it's probably more scummy than towny. I don't think you see me pushing nanook like I did and also being divided by the votes and obviously caring and still go "I'm going to scum read this person" if you're town. You're being way too set in your reads
I don't view your push on Nanook as genuine, especially when you say he was scummy D1 but didn't suggest that people should move to wagon him over Creature and Syn.

how many times does it need to be explained why I didn't vote in checks day 1 cause lmao at this entire post

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:40 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:08 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME do the town a favor and hammer
Tease

if you vote them I will. You don't get the hammer after yesterday you're grounded

tbh I don't care if you town read me or not cause it's already been shown you don't

so I'm just considering why you reject your lifeline

and I think it's probably more scummy than towny. I don't think you see me pushing nanook like I did and also being divided by the votes and obviously caring and still go "I'm going to scum read this person" if you're town. You're being way too set in your reads

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:37 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:36 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:35 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:34 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:34 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:28 pm I'm pretty obvious town hyena so you can either consider that or get voted still tbh
Why are you obvious town? Alison (and nutella) both repeated said they were obvious town, too, in Modern Family Mafia when I was calling them scum. They ended up being scum. Why should I trust you?
the posts I make
What is it about the posts you make that make you obvious town?
they're towny posts
What makes them towny?

I'm not going to town case myself for you, you're probably about to get hammered and I'm pretty much you're life line and that's probably all you need to know right now

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:35 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:34 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:34 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:28 pm I'm pretty obvious town hyena so you can either consider that or get voted still tbh
Why are you obvious town? Alison (and nutella) both repeated said they were obvious town, too, in Modern Family Mafia when I was calling them scum. They ended up being scum. Why should I trust you?
the posts I make
What is it about the posts you make that make you obvious town?

they're towny posts

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:34 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:28 pm I'm pretty obvious town hyena so you can either consider that or get voted still tbh
Why are you obvious town? Alison (and nutella) both repeated said they were obvious town, too, in Modern Family Mafia when I was calling them scum. They ended up being scum. Why should I trust you?

the posts I make

I'm pretty obvious town hyena so you can either consider that or get voted still tbh

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:26 pm Why are you wanting to end the day so early Esooa? You wanted me to talk, and now you're trying to put a stop to it?

because I want off Mr bones wild ride

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:24 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:06 pm Why should I be able to explain why they're mafia? I'm literally telling you that I have green checks on Creature, Luck, Syn/MissSparkles, and I've explained my townread on Ejji. That's five people, which means I have auto. The three mafia HAVE to be in the remaining four. Like, I don't know why that's so hard to understand?
So Hyena POE is: Deli, Esooa, EJJ, Fingers, Nanook
And Nanook would be a wolf and then it literally has to be also 3 out of Deli/Esooa/EJJ/Fingers-- and there are just way too many villagers there.
Maybe somehow EJJ is a wolf and Deli isn't but I doubt that.

two out of those 4, not 3

sigh

realistically though finger was also making towny posts at the least which constricts the nanook team to a point that just can't exactly exist

@Luckbox Inc please hammer to end my grief. I will vote hyena after you

@Luckbox Inc I think hyenas indignance is towny

and you?

Maybe because you're in a fuckin cc????????????????

letting nanook live is literally going to make me feel shame and I felt it when I considered the hammer so at least I know now my vote is never moving

actually nah [VOTE: nanook ] aubergine

luckbox can too

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME do the town a favor and hammer

okay whatever

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:00 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:00 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:54 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:47 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:46 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:44 pm

idk answer the thing I @d you with? your ejj read?
I think Ejji is town. The only time I did suspect her was D1 when she was doing the stuff that I mentioned she did in the game I talked about where she was scum. She hasn't done anything like that since I feel like.
well your checks basically PoE them mafia so... what? Who is mafia?
The people outside of my checks are {you, Ejji, Nanook, Deli, fingersplints}. Who I thought could have been the mafia team was you, Nanook, and one of Deli or fingersplints. If I take you as town, then Deli and fingersplints are probably both mafia -- I trust Ejji over both of them.
okay well I don't really see finger as scum or even deli that much but I'm not gonna ask for a case or anything but... Just saying like figuring out your PoE and trying to give reasons why would have been good

I thought it was pretty self-explanatory? Literally, the people who are not in my PoE are me, my checks, and Ejji. Like, what more do you want me to explain?

do you seriously think that's enough? Like it shouldn't be hard for you to say "these are the wolves and here's why" but I didn't see anything like that from you at all

if you're in a cc you don't just go "I'm cc" then flop over, you should be able to explain why they're mafia

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:57 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:56 pm I meant mostly that you had 13 posts before you showed up

in about 21 hours 13 posts isn't a lot imo when you're occupying literally the most important slot for town if you're the cop
I told you why I didn't post. I didn't want to out that I was cop, but I didn't know how to handle Nanook's claim. On top of that, I was also pissed at myself for being wrong about Alison and also checking Luck.

those posts are this day phase not last

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:56 pm And then you were calling me scummy simply because I had a n0 on Creature? Like, what do want me to do about that?

that's literally how mafia works

I am judging the validity of your checks. I think creature is mafia. So I don't believe you checked him town. That's.... completely normal

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:56 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:55 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:53 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:48 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:48 pm and maybe case the people you think are mafia? or like try to convince people? You can't just say "lol this is my read" then coast and expect things to happen
I mean if you're interested in game throwing you could supplement the coasting with a fake red though but
How am I coasting? When I finally did come back D2, y'all literally hammered KZA before I could get anything meaningful done. I had wanted to bait people into thinking that I thought Luck was scummy (I had a green check on them at the time) just to see who would pounce on that, but y'all hammered before that could go anywhere.
Like, don't get mad at me simply for 1.) not knowing what to do about Nanook claiming a red check on someone even though I know they're not the cop, and 2.) not being able to post more because y'all hammered before I could post more.
Like, these sort of accusations are why I don't trust you, Esooa. You're ignoring all the details about what actually happened.

if you don't trust me I will just vote you out tbh

I meant mostly that you had 13 posts before you showed up

in about 21 hours 13 posts isn't a lot imo when you're occupying literally the most important slot for town if you're the cop

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:47 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:46 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:44 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:43 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:42 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:41 pm No. I just don't feel like playing right this second. Like, I don't think there's anything I can say anymore to get you guys to listen to me and believe me. This has happened to me too many times recently, and it doesn't feel like anything I can do will change your minds.
it's pretty much a self fulfilling prophecy then
Like, what do you want me to say? I gave you my checks and all the thoughts I had. I'm not going to bother repeating myself a couple more times if people simply aren't going to listen to me.
idk answer the thing I @d you with? your ejj read?
I think Ejji is town. The only time I did suspect her was D1 when she was doing the stuff that I mentioned she did in the game I talked about where she was scum. She hasn't done anything like that since I feel like.
well your checks basically PoE them mafia so... what? Who is mafia?
The people outside of my checks are {you, Ejji, Nanook, Deli, fingersplints}. Who I thought could have been the mafia team was you, Nanook, and one of Deli or fingersplints. If I take you as town, then Deli and fingersplints are probably both mafia -- I trust Ejji over both of them.

okay well I don't really see finger as scum or even deli that much but I'm not gonna ask for a case or anything but... Just saying like figuring out your PoE and trying to give reasons why would have been good

hyena has showed up can we hammer now

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:48 pm and maybe case the people you think are mafia? or like try to convince people? You can't just say "lol this is my read" then coast and expect things to happen

I mean if you're interested in game throwing you could supplement the coasting with a fake red though but

and maybe case the people you think are mafia? or like try to convince people? You can't just say "lol this is my read" then coast and expect things to happen

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:46 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:44 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:43 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:42 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:41 pm No. I just don't feel like playing right this second. Like, I don't think there's anything I can say anymore to get you guys to listen to me and believe me. This has happened to me too many times recently, and it doesn't feel like anything I can do will change your minds.
it's pretty much a self fulfilling prophecy then
Like, what do you want me to say? I gave you my checks and all the thoughts I had. I'm not going to bother repeating myself a couple more times if people simply aren't going to listen to me.
idk answer the thing I @d you with? your ejj read?
I think Ejji is town. The only time I did suspect her was D1 when she was doing the stuff that I mentioned she did in the game I talked about where she was scum. She hasn't done anything like that since I feel like.

well your checks basically PoE them mafia so... what? Who is mafia?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:43 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:42 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:41 pm No. I just don't feel like playing right this second. Like, I don't think there's anything I can say anymore to get you guys to listen to me and believe me. This has happened to me too many times recently, and it doesn't feel like anything I can do will change your minds.
it's pretty much a self fulfilling prophecy then
Like, what do you want me to say? I gave you my checks and all the thoughts I had. I'm not going to bother repeating myself a couple more times if people simply aren't going to listen to me.

idk answer the thing I @d you with? your ejj read?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:41 pm No. I just don't feel like playing right this second. Like, I don't think there's anything I can say anymore to get you guys to listen to me and believe me. This has happened to me too many times recently, and it doesn't feel like anything I can do will change your minds.

it's pretty much a self fulfilling prophecy then

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:40 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:38 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:36 pm If Hyena is seer then I'm peeked.
And if Nanook is the seer then I've been on a wolf team that has made two kills I never make.
Like I was pretty confident that Nanook was the seer yesterday. I also still thought he was faking on Kza-- believe it or not.
But Nanook seemed pretty sure that he was actually the seer. And the idea that I just wouldn't kill him and that I would believe Kami's peek when I know Kami can fake with some wolves is just ridiculous fwiw.
if nanook is seer you can easily kill Kami and hope hyena wins a dome which was 100% their plan based on posting
It seems like a bad plan. Also a bad plan for me to be believing Nanook.

probably is a bad plan but it's possible. I don't know how much say you have in night actions if you disagree with someone elses plan, so I don't see why it's not

Deli wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:37 pm -_- being accused of lolcatting when you’re trying to wim is extremely tilting. I’m being borderline anti social to clear myself because that’s my duty as town in this gamestate. Never unvoting LB today wtaf

you aren't dying today
You have other days to post if you are busy

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:37 pm Gonna view the other side out loud here, IF hyena is town, and telling the truth:

N1-Creature v
N2-Luckbox v
N3-MissSparkles v
PoE: Deli, ejj, Esooa, fingersplints, nanook

I know I’m town, and I can’t see Esooa being mafia at this point. So that would leave Deli, ejj, nanook

I have to find nanooks checks again. But off the top of my head I think both cops are claiming Sparkles v, and both leave Deli in the PoE

that's accurate (both claiming sparkles v, neither checking deli)

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:36 pm If Hyena is seer then I'm peeked.
And if Nanook is the seer then I've been on a wolf team that has made two kills I never make.
Like I was pretty confident that Nanook was the seer yesterday. I also still thought he was faking on Kza-- believe it or not.
But Nanook seemed pretty sure that he was actually the seer. And the idea that I just wouldn't kill him and that I would believe Kami's peek when I know Kami can fake with some wolves is just ridiculous fwiw.

if nanook is seer you can easily kill Kami and hope hyena wins a dome which was 100% their plan based on posting

the thing is if it is hyena wolf and creature wolf that just makes literally everything worse day 2 cause I fucking red peeked hyena and creature was going to be voted but nanook is like no me like ugh

if it is hyena it's not even good. I literally don't care if we win cause day 2 was SO bad I already just hate the game

creature says day 1 he will be easier to read later

well this day phase he has an unexplained ??? scum read on ejj and some idk, "don't scum read me weh you're tunneling" posts and that's all

hyena and creature both posting so little this day is a concession

I still feel for the most part deli is spewed town by creature, so I think a hyena team is still more likely luckbox+hyena+creature

I think the timing of luckbox pushing deli was interesting, it exists after my push on nanook where if luckbox is with hyena he maybe tries to kill deli to pull both cops to lylo and win with my or miss sparkles votes on nanook

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:20 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:18 pm why do you want to be sheeping me

and no probably not for a day phase or two
For all the same reasons I wanted to in our only other v/v game together.

honestly ur wolfy imo

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:16 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:15 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:58 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:51 pm You’re making good points.
I want to trust esooa but the constant vote swiching and implorations to hammer anyone doesn't exactly make that easy.
But where is Hyena?
I'm literally not trying at all and am not going to until idk, next game
The problem esooa is that I trust you and want to be sheeping you. So can you try?

why do you want to be sheeping me

and no probably not for a day phase or two

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:58 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:51 pm You’re making good points.
I want to trust esooa but the constant vote swiching and implorations to hammer anyone doesn't exactly make that easy.
But where is Hyena?

I'm literally not trying at all and am not going to until idk, next game

[VOTE: hyena ] aubergine

hammer time

@Hyena what is your ejj read

[VOTE: deli ] aubergine

hammer time

read KZA correctly*

how many times have you read KZA nanook

compared to misreading

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