The Syndicate

FZ. wrote:And I'm still waiting for Bea to come in and reply to Boo's accusations and what he does with it.

Elohcin wrote:I have yet to catch up today. I will be doing so in just a moment, but I have a question for a few players.

@Bea, Black Rock, SpaceDaisy, and FZ. Have any of y'all watched the show? Death Note, I mean.

boo wrote:Oh bea. I am disappoint. I like civ you. This is not civ you. And you went and killed SVS because if anyone was going to pick up on it first and come after you hard, it would have been her. It was probably the best decision, I'll give you that. But I think it's going to bite you in the ass because of how you've played it. You wouldn't have done it if her coming after you wouldn't have mattered because you're a shingami and can't be lynched, which means you can be killed.

I'm honestly not even sure I would have picked up on it, but I think you know better than what you're doing to be doing it if you were a civ. I think this has all been very dishonest, you're throwing my name out because you (and maybe your teammate(s)) know I can become an easy lynch. You wouldn't do that if you were civ. SVS was trusting me prior to her death, and I think if you were civ you'd put stock in that opinion, and not be saying things we both know you could easily go back and check if you wanted to. But you don't want to, because you know what the truth is, it's just inconvenient to your attempt to get me lynched.

I am curious about your kill on LC. Why do it and then frame the discussion in a way that also assigns guilt to you? The WIFOM and getting ahead of it is nice, but LC wasn't really playing normal LC this game, and it would have been easy to argue a player who doesn't know him well did it because he was a middle of the pack poster who wasn't raising a lot of flags, the kind of target baddies like because they are so rarely protected. Although I guess that's maybe why you killed him? Another person who could pick up on your baddie-ness and would come at you hard.

I suppose the good news for me is that based on your coming after me, I'm not next to be NKed? Or did you try that, it was supposed to have gone through by now, and I've gotten lucky and it failed? I could see that, after LC and SVS, I'm one of what, 3 or 4 people you'd want dead next?

I'm almost tempted to go the usual route and build a case. I started to, but it just feels off. If it was anyone else I would have gone through with it. But if there's anyone who'd manage to do the emotional defense that strikes people as honest and gives them even a one day reprieve to regroup, it's you. I think that must have been what you were hoping for throwing my name out? I bite, come after you in my usual style, you play it just so, and get me lynched after subtly but obviously forcing me into making it a you vs. me.

So who's your teammate? You have to be Light, and while I don't trust Epi or llama, I don't think it's either of them. I still think TH is a Shingami, and that was the first role I thought he was. I wonder if I had that one right?

Anyways, I'm voting bea, just in case I have the read wrong on the NK I want to get it in to count.

JC - I'm so sorry for your loss.

DharmaHelper wrote:

bea wrote:I do about 50 percent of the time. - the other 50 - I'll totally admit -I completely tend to read the wrong way.

Hadn't noticed.

Zomberella12 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:So, random question, not related to anything you might have just posted and that I am quoting. Now that Snowman has melted are you officially single?

Sorry, I totally don't get your question. Are you asking me if Snowman divorced me over an online game? How old are you IRL?

Matahari wrote:I'm grateful to the puzzle solvers. If the host has a puzzle as part of his game, and no one works on it, its kind of insulting.

linki

DharmaHelper wrote:

bea wrote:that said - I'm WAY more interested in what russ being around and not posting or soon to post has to say.

He wanted a big talk with llama that never happened in the thread. I'm hecka curious about that. :nod:

linki- I think the smiley theorem can be similar to epi's adverb theorem - in the case of DP though, I think it's incorrect.

linki x2 - Civ DP is soo absent. He's much like this as a civ - going with the flow, trying to keep up. When he is a baddie - he tends to be slightly more involved. It's a bit like trying to read DF - but on an even more few posts scale. If he was bad, he'd be more invested - even with limited or no bts - the idea of a team would be more immediate to him than the typical civ team is. His posts would have more content - he'd be less swayed by the crowd. He'd be trying to stick up for something if he had an agenda. As few posts as he has made, he has no agenda and that reads civ to me.

But for real tell us how you really feel about DisPor

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

bea wrote:how is what I said false? or are you just selectively quoting MM? I asked epi -and llama - if that early voting is a thing for someone besides snowman, wouldn't it make more sense for it to be balanced across the bard for roles rather than a tell for a whole team. The quote you quoted of mine was me specifically asking them - are you sure that's what's going on here? I don't know what of what I asked was false and no one gave me an answer as to what they were thinking - so what the hell did I do wrong here? What did I miss read or misinterpret???

I'm just upset because I spent 7 hours working on the puzzle this morning. This is partially because I love puzzles a lot, and partially because it seemed important to the game. Regardless, I did it because I thought it was fun, and I wanted to help finish it. But then I went to work and come home, and I'm suddenly being accused of "distracting" and "trying to look helpful". It feels like all that work I did was just stupid and worthless. And llama brings up a point against me that you immediately grabbed onto. I don't mean to play the emotional card, but I am annoyed. It's not a ploy from me to look pro-detective, I just did it because I wanted to.

Epignosis wrote:

bea wrote:@ epi - IDK if you can - maybe let someone else see something in DH's posts? I get where you are coming from, but it doesn't seem to be productive - what do you think of boo?

linkie - epi - you couldn't have waited like 4 minutes for me to deal with my laggy computer and linki?

Sorry bea. If Kira kills me, I want my vote to count.

I think boo is evil. Lynch him too.

However, I already voted, and so I won't be making extensive cases or clogging up the thread.

Epignosis wrote:Puzzles aren't scary. They're boring in context. And I think for those that are good at puzzles, a way of looking helpful.

AceofSpaces wrote:Has Made posted at all during this day cycle? I don't think he has.

Turnip Head wrote:Bea I was just pointing out the irony of what you were accusing me of. I have no problem with you quoting long posts, but you're the one who is saying that long posts are detrimental.

Zomberella12 wrote:Well, this note from Snowman is a pretty big deal. It tells us that there are players out there who can win just by leading lynches against anyone. I agree that MM, TH, and Llama could all fit in to this category. Does this bother anyone else?

thellama73 wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote: @ Llama, what's the rush? We still have one more day. Plus, the puzzle isn't nothing, it triggers an event/secret or whatever. Plus, it's fun.

Because waiting to discuss lynches until the last minute always results in bad outcomes.

I think I'll vote TH just for that mammoth, obnoxious post.

Turnip Head wrote:Okay guys, no big deal, the last word we're looking for is somewhere in here! Easy peasy!

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Bass_the_Clever wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I dislike this puzzle. No one is talking about who we should lynch, and I think that is a problem.

Who do you think we should lynch?

thellama73 wrote:I dislike this puzzle. No one is talking about who we should lynch, and I think that is a problem.

FZ. wrote:What about the lynch? I won't be here more than a few minutes or so tomorrow, so if anyone has other suggestions other than TH (which I don't plan to vote for at this point), I'd love to hear suggestions.


linki: Bea, that's why I said llama's point about TH voting early, as a reason to see him as a baddie is null

Epignosis wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm interested in the early voting for TH, given the revelation that it was a mechanic for Snowman.

What do you mean?

Line 14. Snowman had to be one of the first five people to vote. With the early voting, it makes me wonder if a similar mechanic is in Turnip Head's role (and MM's, while we're at it).

Black Rock wrote:Oh and Bea, why not TH?

Black Rock wrote:

bea wrote:The short list?

Black Rock.
Mata.
JC.
Me.
Aces.
DH.
Epi.
Boo.

I would never. Especially killing LC first. I like my marriage the way it is.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:It's possible that there are two active Kiras, killing on alternating nights - because that's how most mafia games work, and in this game we have no way to differentiate between different Kira kills - but I don't think that makes sense within the lore of the show. I think LC and SVS were both killed by the same person, Light Yagami.

A tiny part of me suspects Black Rock, only because she is the absolute last person I would ever suspect of killing LC and SVS.

If BR was Kira, I would be dead.

Turnip Head wrote:Who's been rustling your jimmies lately Marsh?

Turnip Head wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm going outside to play in the snow. I'll be back later.[/quote
Yeah that's cool, we'll be here sorting through all this paperwork