The Syndicate

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:29 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:01 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:59 am @Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours
Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?
Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read
I feel achieveing a read on you is two steps ahead of me and seeing your bereft read would be the last puzzle piece since your ISO rn just reads kind of like disjointed i guess?

Did you not see my bareft read in my ISO?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:27 pm interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit
I am pretty interesting.

What exactly is interesting about our posts?

I see now that you meant me and Pyxxy. I'd still be interested to hear what interests you.

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:01 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:59 am @Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours
Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?
Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read
They're outed mafia. They've done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things and not take stances while lightly shading Lucy. They more-or-less tried to discredit Rondo, whom is a difficult person for scum to play around (this is assuming Rondo is town, which has at least like a 72.89% chance of being true), and they claimed to be townspewed even though I don't see it. The last game I played with them, I almost instantly got the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested, and I have not gotten that feeling at all here (they were town last game, so this is a pretty stark contrast from that). Besides, they're outed mafia.
Hmm.
1) "Claiming to be townspewed"-- I'm 83.2% sure is because everybody was townreading him
2) Trying to discredit rondo -- I kind of agree with him on this so idk what to tell you
3) Rondo is a difficult for scum to play around -- He's also difficult for town to play around? Unless you think that Rondo is only pushing wolves and everybody should just recognize that which I don't think you do
4) "Done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things" / lacking "the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested" -- Lemme think about this one I get where you're coming from but I'm not sure why I don't agree
5) lightly shading lucy -- meh whatever

1) that may be the case, but if so idk why they would be. Bad ISO.

2) meh...

3) No, Rondo is easy to play around as town, you just ignore him and if he doesn't have a pelt by D3 you turbo him.

4) Yes, please get back to me. I really think he's a hit.

5) meh to you too.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:27 pm interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit
I am pretty interesting.

What exactly is interesting about our posts?
the mouth feel

Uhh... I do not want to know what you've been doing with my posts

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:47 pm If it helps, I am now heavily shading lucy at the same time as pretending they don't exist.
Lucy is not actually sorry about their ATE at all.
It is quite obvious to me that it was not genuine.
Seanzie thinks its a reaction test, but he cannot point to anything that Lucy has supposedly gained here.

If Lucy and Neon are both wolves then what they have done is play extremely transparently and I would be disappointed in them.

Uhh, I did not say that. The reaction test and the AtE are two separate things.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:55 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:27 pm interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit
I am pretty interesting.

What exactly is interesting about our posts?
the mouth feel
Uhh... I do not want to know what you've been doing with my posts

As funny as this is, it isn't actually helpful. If you can give me more than "mouth feel", I'd appreciate it.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:04 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:55 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:27 pm interesting posts from seanzie and bereft in the past hour innit
I am pretty interesting.

What exactly is interesting about our posts?
the mouth feel
Uhh... I do not want to know what you've been doing with my posts

As funny as this is, it isn't actually helpful. If you can give me more than "mouth feel", I'd appreciate it.
i'm just vaguely discrediting you, homie

Can we chop this plz? tnx.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:01 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:59 am @Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours
Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?
Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read
They're outed mafia. They've done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things and not take stances while lightly shading Lucy. They more-or-less tried to discredit Rondo, whom is a difficult person for scum to play around (this is assuming Rondo is town, which has at least like a 72.89% chance of being true), and they claimed to be townspewed even though I don't see it. The last game I played with them, I almost instantly got the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested, and I have not gotten that feeling at all here (they were town last game, so this is a pretty stark contrast from that). Besides, they're outed mafia.
hmm, doubts. u know their main?

I do not.

Anyone want to clue me in on who Bereft is? I tried to ask last game, but no one said who.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:25 pm no idea Seanzie

Hmmm... it sounded like you did though.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:26 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:25 pm no idea Seanzie
Hmmm... it sounded like you did though.
nah. your earlier post about Bereft made me ISO him and Iirc he said sheep knew about his main. that's about it.

Hm, okay. I believe you.

@lucy @Neon you're both on vanity wagons and EoD is in a few hours. What are your thoughts on the wagons with at least two votes?

Btw, Porscha I choose you tonight.

Can someone tldr me the case on Neon? Their ISO is too long for me to read right now and I don't remember anything about the pinging me at any point.

How does Wilgy have over 100 posts?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:01 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:59 am @Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours
Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?
Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read
They're outed mafia. They've done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things and not take stances while lightly shading Lucy. They more-or-less tried to discredit Rondo, whom is a difficult person for scum to play around (this is assuming Rondo is town, which has at least like a 72.89% chance of being true), and they claimed to be townspewed even though I don't see it. The last game I played with them, I almost instantly got the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested, and I have not gotten that feeling at all here (they were town last game, so this is a pretty stark contrast from that). Besides, they're outed mafia.
show your work and I will adjust my list

Their ISO is like half a page. I'm sure you can read it yourself if you're interested in checking my work.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:40 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:15 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:08 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:05 pm The three question marks at the end are scummy
towny post

scum mad coz im townreading myself
Kinda feels like Tutuu has TMI here.

from what I saw, Seanzie made this joke read and Seanzie said that you were too focused this game compared to Cartomacy (whatever that means lol). If you left out arguments in your ISO tutuu I will be susp of that

Ftr what it means is that Tutuu's vibe this game is way different than it was on Cartomancy, which I thought might be AI, but I kind of liked their response so now I am not so sure. They did take a hiatus (at least from TS) for a very long time, so I could see a big change in vibe from their first few games back being NAI.

Plus like... Cartomancy didn't exactly go well, so I wouldn't blame people for not playing the same way there.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:46 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:23 pm LPP feels 30% informed on the things I've read from their slot. Lost C or W. Not sure which.
quote the posts pls
Nothing to inherently quote but more so a series that resulted in this thought process.

Of all the things that you chewed into on my posting, it was a Syn read that happened in like my first 8 posts during RVS still.

Thus at least on my data it seems that you saw 1 layer deep and didn't go further.

The next thing was how in spite of you joining thread while the Rondo/Lucy scadoodle was hot, I didn't see any takes of yours on the subject until Seanzie put it into words only prompted by my asking.

It all makes it feel like you are just level 1 ing everything.

What did I do?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:49 pm
Spoiler: show
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:48 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:57 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 am DrWigly iso

► Show Spoiler
“Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W
(votes neon)”
Does this on page 1 and pushes neon because she wasn’t partaking in the sexual innuendo fest, which he partakes in himself, and because she was low energy (actually trying to solve and understand neon which is towny)
Laughs off syn shade
Is generally jokey, in line with the established game tone, idk whether it’s natural or intentionally trying to fit in
A bunch of card game posts with neon
And noticed the same thing about weird syn shade, supports my reasoning
Retorts to syn that 2 people have reacted to his readslist (keeping track)
Asks why seanzie thinks im a wolf, trying to understand seanzie
Adds “Also add to that list
Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T”
To his readlist
Is generally joking around and having a good time in the thread, seems natural and not stilted and not pushing an agenda
Responds to a falcon post and asks falcon why cape is scummy
Denies that an action is towny for wigly (very rand scumy)
Bereft calls me impatient and he votes bereft and declines his tr on bereft
“I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.”
More reads, drops syn from his townreads (townie fmpov)
Asks if a seanzie read is reliant on what i flip
Posts sensible reads on me/cape/neon/tutuu which i generally agree with
Questions why pyxxy tr’s cape for what wigly finds as nai (townie and trying to understand reads)
Remembers a votecount and recounts it to the thread, suggests it might be important (townie and trying to solve/ form a long term worldview
cape/falcon towncore, i don’t understand falcon but i never have, hard agree with cape
Rondo town/i’m scum and thinks sheep looks bad from the interactions (lacks tmi because he knows i would flip town and he would openly pre push sheep and he gave no justification for that read, rings townie because usually wolves add reasoning to those reads so they don’t forget)
Adds falcon/cape/rondo to towncore and explains general stuff happening during the game and what rondo has been doing, me/syn being a difference check (good read, i’d have done the same as someone not in this mess)
Tries to understand rondo further and townreads cape openly with reasoning in the thread, i strongly believe cape is town so him adding someone else to generally consensus town who is lhf is very pro town
Points out how syn isn’t solving (correct)

townread btw
I will admit that I have a personal problem ever trusting wilgy but I've already had that feeling I had the 1 time I caught him wolfing where its ... it's the sinking feeling that I'm gonna have to take him out back the shed

Like I could be wrong here

And I'm unsure I can put it into words rn

Day 2 I can get on my comp and sit there and force myself to articulate about specific posts or patterns but that wont happen by day 1 due to my time constraints
But also there was no reason for wilgy to tr me that early
Cape pointed out wilgy called it a fake reads list but seemed to maintain his read in cape as if it was real
I liked the pushback from lpp on wilgy on this page where I responded it was hot
But maybe I'm already confbiasing myself I'll try to keep my mind open but I love wilgy too much that it clouds my ability to see clearly 👁👁 so I am never feeling good about trusting myself when reading him

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:48 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:57 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 am DrWigly iso

► Show Spoiler
“Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W
(votes neon)”
Does this on page 1 and pushes neon because she wasn’t partaking in the sexual innuendo fest, which he partakes in himself, and because she was low energy (actually trying to solve and understand neon which is towny)
Laughs off syn shade
Is generally jokey, in line with the established game tone, idk whether it’s natural or intentionally trying to fit in
A bunch of card game posts with neon
And noticed the same thing about weird syn shade, supports my reasoning
Retorts to syn that 2 people have reacted to his readslist (keeping track)
Asks why seanzie thinks im a wolf, trying to understand seanzie
Adds “Also add to that list
Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T”
To his readlist
Is generally joking around and having a good time in the thread, seems natural and not stilted and not pushing an agenda
Responds to a falcon post and asks falcon why cape is scummy
Denies that an action is towny for wigly (very rand scumy)
Bereft calls me impatient and he votes bereft and declines his tr on bereft
“I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.”
More reads, drops syn from his townreads (townie fmpov)
Asks if a seanzie read is reliant on what i flip
Posts sensible reads on me/cape/neon/tutuu which i generally agree with
Questions why pyxxy tr’s cape for what wigly finds as nai (townie and trying to understand reads)
Remembers a votecount and recounts it to the thread, suggests it might be important (townie and trying to solve/ form a long term worldview
cape/falcon towncore, i don’t understand falcon but i never have, hard agree with cape
Rondo town/i’m scum and thinks sheep looks bad from the interactions (lacks tmi because he knows i would flip town and he would openly pre push sheep and he gave no justification for that read, rings townie because usually wolves add reasoning to those reads so they don’t forget)
Adds falcon/cape/rondo to towncore and explains general stuff happening during the game and what rondo has been doing, me/syn being a difference check (good read, i’d have done the same as someone not in this mess)
Tries to understand rondo further and townreads cape openly with reasoning in the thread, i strongly believe cape is town so him adding someone else to generally consensus town who is lhf is very pro town
Points out how syn isn’t solving (correct)

townread btw
I will admit that I have a personal problem ever trusting wilgy but I've already had that feeling I had the 1 time I caught him wolfing where its ... it's the sinking feeling that I'm gonna have to take him out back the shed

Like I could be wrong here

And I'm unsure I can put it into words rn

Day 2 I can get on my comp and sit there and force myself to articulate about specific posts or patterns but that wont happen by day 1 due to my time constraints

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:32 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:27 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:26 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:25 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:17 am

Why ask thread instead of just doing it
To be fair I did do it lol
Yeh but I wanted rondo to tell me why it was sr worthy
I too would like to no
Its simple your dismissal of my view of your scummy theatre with lucy plus moving your vote at an opportune time after the chaos shows that you can't be town core and cape voting for lpp moves him Up win win
Cape was already town and I wont call neon / Lucy theater

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:34 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:23 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:17 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:17 am Lucy also never self votes as town in this position she thunder domes me which is outing.
On one hand I've definitely watched her vote herself out for no reason other than being dramatic when she was town

But on the other hand it wasnt day 1 either
No I mean, the thread position she took if you look at it as a more strategy based game like chess is that I must be finding her town or I am wolf. If I am pushing her and not letting go ergo I must be wolf. if I am wolf and she is town she would not hesistate to thunderdome me. So she knows I am town and has let it leak by not thunderdoming me which is what Lucy SHOULD have done if she was town. The fact she will not shows she is wolf. (Coupled with a lot of other factors that I have also layed out)

Its less about what she has done and more about what she should have done for her position logically as town.
Rondo I think this is a very good post and i believe you believe it but i also unfortunately tr lucy instead

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:28 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:20 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:17 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:14 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:12 am What if I just did a stealth vote switch here
Not a good look from neon, switching LPP out and neon in
Why ask thread instead of just doing it
Not asking just phone posting while cuddling and watching a movie. So I'll change it tomorrow if I am still alive
Sorry I clearly did not phrase this well lol. I was asking you what wolfy intent neon would have to ask thread about the stealth vote switch because it is now objectively not stealthy
I TR porscha

Welcome to the club. Do you want to buy a t-shirt? Only $29.95. One size fits all.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:50 pm Like. I almost really feel that LPP or Pyxxy is correct wagon.

LPP advising Lucy to stop posting and step back for a second along with the seconding of Seanzies argument for T Lucy just isn't sitting right the more I think on it.

It's like you'd get good little town points for the take if Lucy is teammate or not. If Lucy is a teammate you defended them, if not you were at least "correct".

LPP has trended up for me recently, but I'm not sure if I could pinpoint a specific reason for it. I still think Pyxxy is probably fine, so I recommend you find better wagons or do a better job of convicing me on these ones.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:50 pm Like. I almost really feel that LPP or Pyxxy is correct wagon.

LPP advising Lucy to stop posting and step back for a second along with the seconding of Seanzies argument for T Lucy just isn't sitting right the more I think on it.

It's like you'd get good little town points for the take if Lucy is teammate or not. If Lucy is a teammate you defended them, if not you were at least "correct".
LPP has trended up for me recently, but I'm not sure if I could pinpoint a specific reason for it. I still think Pyxxy is probably fine, so I recommend you find better wagons or do a better job of convicing me on these ones.
Implying I need to convince others to my read I still think is faulty. I provide the data and assuming you are without agenda it's in your best interest to gauge and judge it however.

No one is without agenda. If you're thinking of moving off Bereft onto LPP or Pyxxy, imo the gamestate will get worse. Maybe I'm wrong on one of them, and if I am, I am open to hearing more, but I hope you're also willing to consider my thoughts and judge them however.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:59 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:25 pm Hey - just popping in to say i wont be participating for this eod - sorry!

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Ive never in my life deliberately planned to end the day without voting, but i dont want to be making an uninformed vote. I have no real scumreads

Apologies if this is anti-town, it just feels better than a random vote to me, and i will participate and vote in all future eods
oh lol. you are killing me.

It's anti-town but it feels guenine I guess.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine
what do you mean? they took their vote off of you

I don't like this post.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:00 pm @Seanzie Bereft is being v towny, there’s a stark depth of thought and insightfulness/criticism that is absent from his wolf game

Can you link a wolf game of his so I can check this? I don't really dig meta reads I can't corroborate, and honestly this is a pretty stark 180 from my perspective (that the depth of thought and insightfulness that I quickly saw before is absent).

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:03 pm @Syn are you gonna offer any fucking analysis or critical thinking or are you gonna brainlessly vote a townie all fucking cycle and offer 0 other contribution

plz tone it down a bit if you wouldn't mind. The swearing makes this read really aggressive.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:00 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:59 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:25 pm Hey - just popping in to say i wont be participating for this eod - sorry!

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Ive never in my life deliberately planned to end the day without voting, but i dont want to be making an uninformed vote. I have no real scumreads

Apologies if this is anti-town, it just feels better than a random vote to me, and i will participate and vote in all future eods
oh lol. you are killing me.

It's anti-town but it feels guenine I guess.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine
what do you mean? they took their vote off of you
I don't like this post.
I was specifically referring to le petit's first line and im not sure how you are interpreting it. I'm just stating facts. tutuu was voting le petit, and then tutuu got off le petit, therefore in a literal sense doing the opposite of killing him.

Unless he meant "you are killing me" as a form of expression which is possible

Oh, I was interpreting it as like "You're saying moving a vote off you is anti-town? You must have scumslipped then." which is very level 0, maybe even -1.

I'd vote Neon over Lucy here, but still kinda hoping the Bereft wagon picks up so sticking where I'm at for now.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:51 pm The fact that I am struggling to get Lucy over when I put out a decent case on her is not a small bit frustrating

I feel the same.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:51 pm The fact that I am struggling to get Lucy over when I put out a decent case on her is not a small bit frustrating
I feel the same.
today me tomorrow you?

Other way around.

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:51 pm The fact that I am struggling to get Lucy over when I put out a decent case on her is not a small bit frustrating
I feel the same.
today me tomorrow you?
6 minutes before EoD is the best time to start a wagon

He's asking me to vote Lucy there btw.

Woo! Bereft at 3, let's go!

Wow, where did this pyxxy wagon come from?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:02 pm So Seanzie, going to listen to me now?

Listen? Yes.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:29 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:21 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:14 pm I'm too lazy to find an active player list but Porscha is basically lock town never rescind status based on play and I will die for her... still.

@Porscha helps me solve this game
Porscha thinks i'm town and thinks wigly is scum

what's your read on me as of now?
Same as yesterday. I'm extremely paranoid of your beginning to the game.

But I think you deserve space and that you feel like you're being honest and town in general...

I don't like this.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:55 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:49 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:38 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:36 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:30 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:29 pm

Same as yesterday. I'm extremely paranoid of your beginning to the game.

But I think you deserve space and that you feel like you're being honest and town in general...
what about reads for tutuu/cape?
Meh. I'll analyze them deeper today but I don't feel particularly strong either way.

Tutuu feels like the town Tutuu I've played with but that's easily fakeable meta read anyways

Cape...has gone back and forth in my head all day.
the direct consequence of this is that you basically townread all 3 of rondo's top scumreads correct?

separately what's your read of rondo?
Rondo is being Rondo. And he's being Rondo in the way that I've been repeatedly told is indicative of town rondo.

Rondo can be tunneled and wrong town. Or I can just be wrong on one of you 3 or all of you since I do have paranoia of all of you. Probably Tutuu the least honestly.
this post increases neons wolf equity a lot
True. I totally see how me having a TR on you regardless of your tunnel makes me a wolf.

Glad we agree.

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:57 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:44 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:42 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:41 pm @Sheep are you an aopser?
yes

I'm one of the good ones though (haven't been banned from MU yet)
so bereft has a good read on you? (can u link 2 games where he's found you d1)

and what reads do you have, specifically on me/rondo/syn
oh
hm
wolfgames with schweppes
let's see
ah i found one
where
bereft (Osmium_)
said "Oh wait sheep (ad333) is a player in this game"
and then voted me next post
oh and then he didn't talk about me smh (https://artofproblemsolving.com/communi ... nation_frc) for reference
idt there's any more recnet aops games

gah
and there's only a turbo on MU
idk
just trust me

uh
I think you're town?
I think syn's null
Rondo's probably town but also still ignoring him and hoping he dies.

Wait, is Bareft Schweppes? Well that's... unexpected.

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:57 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:44 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:42 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:41 pm @Sheep are you an aopser?
yes

I'm one of the good ones though (haven't been banned from MU yet)
so bereft has a good read on you? (can u link 2 games where he's found you d1)

and what reads do you have, specifically on me/rondo/syn
oh
hm
wolfgames with schweppes
let's see
ah i found one
where
bereft (Osmium_)
said "Oh wait sheep (ad333) is a player in this game"
and then voted me next post
oh and then he didn't talk about me smh (https://artofproblemsolving.com/communi ... nation_frc) for reference
idt there's any more recnet aops games

gah
and there's only a turbo on MU
idk
just trust me

uh
I think you're town?
I think syn's null
Rondo's probably town but also still ignoring him and hoping he dies.

Wait, is Bareft Schweppes? Well that's... unexpected.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.

I agree with all parts of this except the conclusion.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:10 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:08 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:06 pm We need to solve in you/Syn and we should have yesterday.
very reasonable
If its so reasonable why did you shit the bed yesterday going full ATE when I tried to push you over and resolve? More wolf evidence that Lucy is all over the place trying to justify herself

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:20 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:58 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:55 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:49 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:38 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:36 pm

Meh. I'll analyze them deeper today but I don't feel particularly strong either way.

Tutuu feels like the town Tutuu I've played with but that's easily fakeable meta read anyways

Cape...has gone back and forth in my head all day.
the direct consequence of this is that you basically townread all 3 of rondo's top scumreads correct?

separately what's your read of rondo?
Rondo is being Rondo. And he's being Rondo in the way that I've been repeatedly told is indicative of town rondo.

Rondo can be tunneled and wrong town. Or I can just be wrong on one of you 3 or all of you since I do have paranoia of all of you. Probably Tutuu the least honestly.
this post increases neons wolf equity a lot
True. I totally see how me having a TR on you regardless of your tunnel makes me a wolf.
or perhaps its more the fact that neon is trying to control perceptions in a game and not just meming and having a good time. You are making calculated posts with calculated statements. I see wolf play from you.
I'm playing the game to win? So I'm scum?

Nothing I've said has been calculated... though your general idea is accurate to my wolf game.

Anyways I'm having fun and memeing when there's opportunity... I'm just also playing the game lol

Rondo/Neon is w/w.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:20 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:59 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:55 pm I've not been banned in MU...yet... but it's coming...

I dunno what an aopser is though so
AoPS is a math website that has a mafia forum that has played like 260 games total over the course of 15 years
really long phases
low postcounts
mostly newbies
Interesting. I hate math but that's chill I think.

Yeah, Neon is outed at this point (for legal reasons, this is a joke... even if it approximates reality).

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:38 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:37 pm i also wolf-read their refusal to vote
why is this wolf indicative

Isn't it obvious? I don't necessarily agree, but it is easy to follow.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep the most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.

Cheers
Fixed.

Fuckin mobile

Rondo/Neon contains at least 3 wolves.

Rask is clear.

Pyxxy probably also clear.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep the most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.

Cheers
Fixed.

Fuckin mobile

Rondo/Neon contains at least 3 wolves.

Rask is clear.

Pyxxy probably also clear.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep the most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.

Cheers
Fixed.

Fuckin mobile

Rondo/Neon contains at least 3 wolves.

Rask is clear.

Pyxxy probably also clear.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.
Yeah I wasn't sure about Seanzie on the wagon, and ofc pyxxy voted that wagon too but that was also a LATE vote

I think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.

Cheers
Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:04 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:06 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:34 pm @DrWilgy what are your reads
They has not changed much

Cape T
Rondo T
Falcon T
Porscha T
Tutuu Tfn
Neon Tfn

Pyxxy is off and it feels Wolfy.

We need to solve in you/Syn and we should have yesterday.

We go from there.
If we are doing proper mafia play we kill a counterwagon and neons counterwagon gives us the most info. Pyxxy I personally think is town and Neon has been suspicious so if you want to avoid my fpos on lucy Neon is my only other option
I still don't think Neon is correct, but yeah [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine would be a good place to start today.

No.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:10 am in terms of breaking up my reads

Porscha
Sheep
Rondo

tutuu
lucy
DrWigly

Neon
pyxxy
Seanzie

falcon45ca

Syn

Probably something like this

Assuming this is town->scum, I think your bottom 4 are all town, so please rethink.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:18 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:22 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:02 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:36 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:25 pm i am somewhat struggling to see pyxxy's come back as towny... kinda the notes thing is towny?
Why do I, pyxxy, as a wolf, want to come back to this EOD? Who tagged me in the wolf chat to come back, and what did they want me to do?

Neutral question. Just want you to think through this.
not really sure why this question was asked

also the notes thing was referring to

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:27 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:09 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:52 pm I feel drawn to syn le petit and bereft
Drawn in what way?
lack of experience with them + lack of noting towny vibes during my reads

I'm experimenting with taking notes while playing mafia and tldr they're barely in my notes so far

feels like that might mean something. specifically mean something scummy. gtg soon tho

"i am somewhat struggling to see pyxxy's come back as towny"
I interpreted this as calling my return to the thread scummy. That's why I asked why you thought my return was scummy.

Did I interpret this wrong?
i misinterpreted my own post

That's uhh... something.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:59 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:02 pm So Seanzie, going to listen to me now?
Listen? Yes.

I don't remember making this post. Probably for the best.

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