The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:49 pm Neon, pyxxy, Seanzie, lucy

Someone among these four are mafia

I agree.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:45 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:43 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:42 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:37 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:49 pm Hey everyone, it's time to consolidate votes.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
@Scotty @sig I recommend choosing a non-vanity wagon for wagonomics

@S~V~S @pyxxy uhh... vote plz.
For now [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'll catch up during my lunch break + watching march madness
What happened to catching up?
What's good seanzie

Does nutella dying make anyone in particular look bad, in your opinion?
Are you going to answer the question I asked?
I did in my second post, refresh the thread

Or Falcon's wagon grew and you didn't know how to hop on it or get others to hop off it in an organic manner so you froze.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:42 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:37 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:49 pm Hey everyone, it's time to consolidate votes.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
@Scotty @sig I recommend choosing a non-vanity wagon for wagonomics

@S~V~S @pyxxy uhh... vote plz.
For now [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'll catch up during my lunch break + watching march madness
What happened to catching up?
What's good seanzie

Does nutella dying make anyone in particular look bad, in your opinion?

Are you going to answer the question I asked?

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:49 pm Hey everyone, it's time to consolidate votes.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
@Scotty @sig I recommend choosing a non-vanity wagon for wagonomics

@S~V~S @pyxxy uhh... vote plz.
For now [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'll catch up during my lunch break + watching march madness

What happened to catching up?

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:14 pmCool wagons.
Serious or sarcasm?

Kinda both. Don't really want Falcon to be elim'd, but I love me some wagons.

Does anyone else see Falcon voting Gira, but it isn't actually registering as a vote being there?

Cool wagons.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:49 pm Hey everyone, it's time to consolidate votes.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

@Scotty @sig I recommend choosing a non-vanity wagon for wagonomics

@S~V~S @pyxxy uhh... vote plz.

Hey everyone, it's time to consolidate votes.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:38 am i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful
i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful
i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful
i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful
i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful
i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful
i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful
i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful
i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful
i think the fashion in which people were naming townreads wasn't very useful

nobody says that naturally what the fuck!!

Ehh, sure. I see it.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:36 am sean why do you think gira has gotten better? why dont you feel the way i do:(

I liked their recent post to Screenplay.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:30 amEhh

Ehh indeed.

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:13 am
srceenplay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:08 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:12 am I'd vote Scotty right now if I had to.
Would it bother that Nut is on scot?

I'm looking at the votes trying to decide where I want to vote and can't make up my mind because whos voting who.
this reads like faux indecision

Gira just went up like 2 points in my book. To balance things out, Screenplay went down by 2 points.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:08 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:12 am I'd vote Scotty right now if I had to.
Would it bother that Nut is on scot?

I'm looking at the votes trying to decide where I want to vote and can't make up my mind because whos voting who.

Well, she's not, but no. Associatives day 1 (or even in general pre-first-wolf-flip) are bad IMO, so while I'm not immune to making them, I try not to let them affect things, especially things like vote placement.

I'd vote Scotty right now if I had to.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:43 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:41 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:39 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:36 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:34 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:34 am I can easily reverse engineer many arguments about why it'd give information about your alignment.
nice
And you want me to believe you're on my side?
what

no i just can't think of any sensible arguments for why it's related to my alignment at all, any arguments like "outed wolf" "threadspewed town" or anything else are just immediately discounted as untrue because of logic

what do u have up your sleeve
If you cared, why did you wait to ask?
because i don't lmfao, i asked that question because i don't think have any sensible arguments and i was fishing for that. then i was gonna go back to your original question and realize that it's nai again

god it's too circular and i have a midterm tomorrow

You didn't though. You didn't ask. Instead, you discredited Scotty, then when I said I could find an argument, you deflected. Only after I followed up did you try to find something to defend against.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:39 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:36 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:34 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:34 am I can easily reverse engineer many arguments about why it'd give information about your alignment.
nice
And you want me to believe you're on my side?
what

no i just can't think of any sensible arguments for why it's related to my alignment at all, any arguments like "outed wolf" "threadspewed town" or anything else are just immediately discounted as untrue because of logic

what do u have up your sleeve

If you cared, why did you wait to ask?

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:34 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:34 am I can easily reverse engineer many arguments about why it'd give information about your alignment.
nice

And you want me to believe you're on my side?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:27 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:22 am
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:21 am
lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:54 pm gotta agree with scotty here, i got insta wagoned and i've been the top wagon for the entire cycle
That doesn't say anything about your alignment. Only that all players seem undecided and three players who may or may not be town landed on you and didn't feel like changing. I saw wagons like this on wolf plenty of times.
yeah that's why scotty's followup was weird

like i can't even reverse engineer an argument about why it'd give any information about my alignment
I don't see a "scotty followup" from this post. What exactly are you talking about?

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:28 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:02 am
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:05 pm Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am
I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game
ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?
@Seanzie this

I can easily reverse engineer many arguments about why it'd give information about your alignment.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:22 am
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:21 am
lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:54 pm gotta agree with scotty here, i got insta wagoned and i've been the top wagon for the entire cycle
That doesn't say anything about your alignment. Only that all players seem undecided and three players who may or may not be town landed on you and didn't feel like changing. I saw wagons like this on wolf plenty of times.
yeah that's why scotty's followup was weird

like i can't even reverse engineer an argument about why it'd give any information about my alignment

I don't see a "scotty followup" from this post. What exactly are you talking about?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:20 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:14 am [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine
Am I not the townie that lock wolf scotty was linking to his partner?

I'd like to hear some specifically yucky things that Scotty did.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:07 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:06 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:50 pm This is probably the stupidest reason I’ve ever voted someone but like lol [VOTE: Creature] aubergine
I actually think this silly goofy little thing is somewhat >rand town though. Maybe not enough to outweigh the yucky things, but idk
What yucky things exactly?
You can see my reactions to some of the same posts you disliked

I'd like to hear some specific things. What about Scotty has been yucky?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:17 am
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:16 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:50 pm This is probably the stupidest reason I’ve ever voted someone but like lol [VOTE: Creature] aubergine
It is indeed a stupid reason. It should be obviously a typo.
Even typos can be Freudian slips

This is as NAI as Mac pooping.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:07 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:59 pm Scotty did the old "let's connect a partner to a townie" and it failed.
He didn't though lol, he didn't even try to come up with something for it when pressed and instead dropped it without fear of looking bad

What yucky things exactly?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:06 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:50 pm This is probably the stupidest reason I’ve ever voted someone but like lol [VOTE: Creature] aubergine
I actually think this silly goofy little thing is somewhat >rand town though. Maybe not enough to outweigh the yucky things, but idk

What yucky things exactly?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:00 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:58 pm Scotty is a wolf. SVS is almost assuredly their partner (this is an associative read, which I usually don't do D1)
FTR, scotty!wolf is not associative, SVS!Scum is, even though I'd put SVS at >rand!scum without this, but not by much.
I’m having trouble with the logic train.
You think SVs is scum, so you link me to being her partner for associating myself with my partner?

Why not just vote SVs and then when she flips wolf, which you seem even more sure than I am, go for me, her bussing partner afterwards?

You misunderstand me. SVS take in isolation is >rand!wolf, but not by much. SVS's wolf equity jumps by association with you, whom I think is wolf regardless of SVS's alignment.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:01 am who is svs

their username is svs or like maybe s~v~s or something, so like... SVS is SVS, that isn't an acronym.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:59 pm seanzie can be town for finding a wolf so easily

Fixed.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:58 pm Scotty is a wolf. SVS is almost assuredly their partner (this is an associative read, which I usually don't do D1)

FTR, scotty!wolf is not associative, SVS!Scum is, even though I'd put SVS at >rand!scum without this, but not by much.

ole'*

Scotty did the old "let's connect a partner to a townie" and it failed.

Scotty is a wolf. SVS is almost assuredly their partner (this is an associative read, which I usually don't do D1)

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:54 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:52 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:50 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:47 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:42 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:05 pm Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am
I don't think that means anything at this point. I am keeping my vote on Gira because he hasn't convinced me I am town. DOOM is like the only other player who is voting him atp. lucy wagon is kinda meh, but I don't think it being static is bad, it's just that I don't know why lucy is being voted.
Is that something you need to be convinced of?
Yeah, Scotty wolfin'. Pile on folks.
My first real suspicion i lay out in this game on SVS, and your immediate go-to is “yeah she’s bad but also you are throwing your partner under the bus so you’re worse looking”?
What happened to Nutella?
I have no idea on nutella. I was just throwing out a name.

I don’t actually suspect nutella

Why were Nutella/SVS connected?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:52 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:50 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:47 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:42 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:05 pm Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am
I don't think that means anything at this point. I am keeping my vote on Gira because he hasn't convinced me I am town. DOOM is like the only other player who is voting him atp. lucy wagon is kinda meh, but I don't think it being static is bad, it's just that I don't know why lucy is being voted.
Is that something you need to be convinced of?
Yeah, Scotty wolfin'. Pile on folks.
My first real suspicion i lay out in this game on SVS, and your immediate go-to is “yeah she’s bad but also you are throwing your partner under the bus so you’re worse looking”?

What happened to Nutella?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:47 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:42 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:05 pm Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am
I don't think that means anything at this point. I am keeping my vote on Gira because he hasn't convinced me I am town. DOOM is like the only other player who is voting him atp. lucy wagon is kinda meh, but I don't think it being static is bad, it's just that I don't know why lucy is being voted.
Is that something you need to be convinced of?

Yeah, Scotty wolfin'. Pile on folks.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:33 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:31 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:24 pm All that said, I actually don’t get good vibes from SVS and think she is phoning it in today. She hasn’t voted yet and while that’s not AI, I haven’t got the impression she is making any waves nor do I know who she would vote for. She lightly defends sig, and puts a bit of suspicion on Doom, but isn’t going there?

I dunno. Nothing has thrilled me from her solving today. It’s like she doesn’t want to get her hands wet, if that makes any sense
I don't disagree with you about SVS, but I am more willing to entertain Scotty/SVS than Nutella/SVS at this point.

Why did you drop Nutella's name after I asked you about Nutella/SVS?

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:24 pm All that said, I actually don’t get good vibes from SVS and think she is phoning it in today. She hasn’t voted yet and while that’s not AI, I haven’t got the impression she is making any waves nor do I know who she would vote for. She lightly defends sig, and puts a bit of suspicion on Doom, but isn’t going there?

I dunno. Nothing has thrilled me from her solving today. It’s like she doesn’t want to get her hands wet, if that makes any sense

I don't disagree with you about SVS, but I am more willing to entertain Scotty/SVS than Nutella/SVS at this point.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:02 pm Has Nutella ever been elim’d day 1?

Yes.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:04 pm I can see a distinct possibility that SVS and Nutella are on a team

But don’t ask for specifics. It’s just some itsie bitsies that my spiders from the palace have told me

You said not to, but I'm going to anyways.

Specifics?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:04 pm I can see a distinct possibility that SVS and Nutella are on a team

But don’t ask for specifics. It’s just some itsie bitsies that my spiders from the palace have told me

You said not to, but I'm going to anyways.

Specifics?

No one said anything, so I ISO'd myself. Pretty good ISO IMO.

Somebody tell me someone to ISO.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:21 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:20 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:53 pm Seanzie, how you feel about Nutella and Creature
Nutella is fine. Creature is >rand!mafia, but I will get a better read on them as the game goes on, so not interested in them today.

How do YOU feel about Nutella and Creature?
One of these I am not sure of

Creature is trying to post his town meta, I still haven't seen him do it as mafia yet, so as of now town

Creature's mafia game has improved a lot over the past year or so (IMO), and I've found myself thinking early on that he is in his town meta when he was wolf, but I usually get a more confident read soon after.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:54 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:03 pm So I realized that there is a glaring flaw in my mech plan, so let's scrap the whole "3 to BLAH, 3 to DEBLAH, 3 to BLAHDEBLAH".

However, it is good to try to funnel breaths all to the same place, so it'd still be good for people to give names of who they think should get breaths, and then I will likely select someone whose name shows up a lot to give my breath(s) to.
I already gave up my breathe but I'm not gonna say who it was too because that just makes them a target for mafia.

I haven't read the set up so feel free to tell me why this is a stupid thought.

All breaths are moved at EoD, meaning that if A targets B and B targets A, they just swap. This makes it so that if people have breaths after the "plan" was supposed to happen, we can't tell if they were 3p, mafia who just kept their breaths, or town that were handed breaths by mafia to complicate the whole mech plan.

It's still possible somethign could work since if we did choose 3 people who were all town, we could possibly reverse engineer who went off-script based on how many breaths they got, but yeah, it's trickier than I was originally thinking.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:53 pm Seanzie, how you feel about Nutella and Creature

Nutella is fine. Creature is >rand!mafia, but I will get a better read on them as the game goes on, so not interested in them today.

How do YOU feel about Nutella and Creature?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:12 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:28 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:10 pm srceenplay and Seanzie are my only townreads right now.
Why me?
Why me fry me

I like how you started by pushing someone. I still can see nutella being a wolf here.

Seems kinda weak IMO.

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