The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:57 pm Looks like Creature and Wilgy both grabbed food twice, so I don't think there are likely to be tally shenanigans afoot.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:06 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:53 pm
I don't think that is an accurate judgement of the post. Here, let's take a look:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:53 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:11 am Catching up from my wagonz post (#412). 7 pages oh boy. Sprawling notes incoming.

I'm not sure what your point is here.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:53 pm
I don't think that is an accurate judgement of the post. Here, let's take a look:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:53 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:11 am Catching up from my wagonz post (#412). 7 pages oh boy. Sprawling notes incoming.

I'm not sure what your point is here.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:41 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:38 pm I find it interesting that you mentioned the "commentary" thing, but didn't include the big late-D1 catchup post he did that was almost entirely commentary without real takes, which was followed up with scumreads that he didn't say anything about.

I do admit though that looking back at Rico's Scotty case, it does have a bit more depth to it than I thought.

If you're referring to this post, I mentioned it with a link instead of a full quote. I think there were real takes in there, generally provided after the bullet point comments per player.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:18 pm Ricochet ISO

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Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:11 am Page one and so far everything tutuu said about town not picking food for swag or such has irked me.

A. Non-food items are limited, so invariably some townies will have only food to pick. Case in point, me after missing out on all the non-food items. There's no point in judging player's AI based on skipping food, since some will have nothing but food left to pick.
B. Having invisible votes added to your tally is not beneficial. Vote shenanigans are not great for gamesolving purposes. So it's not townminded to boast about getting hungry.
C. Something about waiting to see what Seanzie will pick. Why Seanzie, in particular? And why such concern at all?

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:40 am Page two and the mech talk is fine, I suppose. Easy pocket material, tho, especially with the prevalent "ooh tutuu is town for mechtalking this much" sentiment.

Tutuu still bit wishwashy or just plain derpy now with the whole "town be swag and not pick food" but then "oh wait getting increasingly hungry will lose game for town" progression.

Ping on Rondo asking to be grouped with the mechtalkers. For what? Or what kind of cred?

I don't think the game will be faultily designed (especially with this being an Epig game) as to reach a mechanical loss i.e. fX town being starved or mafia hogging all the protections each time.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:12 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:59 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:48 am Define ”again”.

You and scotty have tried to soft scum me this game. I see some team work

You're inflating a ping to a wolfread.

Still doesn't account for the again-ness of my endeavour.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:13 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:44 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:11 am Page one and so far everything tutuu said about town not picking food for swag or such has irked me.

A. Non-food items are limited, so invariably some townies will have only food to pick. Case in point, me after missing out on all the non-food items. There's no point in judging player's AI based on skipping food, since some will have nothing but food left to pick.
B. Having invisible votes added to your tally is not beneficial. Vote shenanigans are not great for gamesolving purposes. So it's not townminded to boast about getting hungry.
C. Something about waiting to see what Seanzie will pick. Why Seanzie, in particular? And why such concern at all?

Obv i wouldn't scumread someone for picking food if they had no other choice

Im not scumreading people who are picking food in the first place lol

Maybe I missread, but there was some „if I was mafia I would have picked food, ergo townread me yall" + "waiting to see what seanzie picks, they be mafia if picking food" stuff.

And "picking non-food is towny", which later you 180d into "oh no town will go hungry and lose on mechanics, must pick food"

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:23 am Six out of 18 items are non-food. So, by design, some town will inevitably pick them (or have to).

Mafia depriving town of nightkill protection, at the cost of going +1 in votes, sounds like a proper Epig game balance. They could, but then it depends on drawing (repeatedly) less heat in the game.

Vibe right now is that mech-based conjecturing isn't that valuable. The game has madness, it will develop.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:09 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:00 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:58 am What do you townlock those four for?

They picked non-food

lol

This is some but not all of Rico's earliest content, and I have focused primarily on his initial reception of tutuu. Rico's critiques/suspicion carried some weight (orange), and this developed into a somewhat significant component of the Day 1 dialogue (and tutuu becoming a top wagon). This Rico material doesn't thrill me. tutuu made some assertions about mechanics and how they reflect on people that can obviously be debated, and I'd be more comfortable if that's what happened -- they were debated (instead of they were shaded as something agenda-driven). On that note, I think Rico did achieve that eventually in the green post by simply expressing his view of the mechanical miscellany. I tend to wish this was the focus.

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Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:10 am Vivax has three posts rn, all with certain reads (yay on paper).

Post #1 is a bit of a mix(ed bag) of mechtalk, AI claim and hopping on some pings.
The claim that he would steal the protections as wolf strikes as rushed in rationale, i.e. omitting the downside of gaining hunger votes in the process (he stated there would be no "drawbacks" in fact). Is Vivax the type of wolfplayer who would, indeed, steal town benefits and dare to play with vote weights on? Who knows. Anyway, this statement only leads to WIFOM, if judged seriously. "I would" / "I would never". Mkay.
The ping on tutuu is not much at all. (At worst it was probably a total skim of tutuu's other posts)
The ping on Rondo is without much (in-game) sense to what was already a Rondo statement without much (in-game) sense.

Post #2 was on me and I found it funny. I mean, as far as what I've said, I thought I was pretty reasoned and surveyed different aspects. But the funny side of his angle - probably hasn't played with me (at all? not much?) - is that I am indeed a monument of excess in verbiage and reasoning.

Post #3 was on Scotty and I kind of vibe of it. Scotty's sus is one thing, but his phrasing that SVS would be overly cautious in her mechtalk feels a bit ech. It doesn't feel unreasonable of Vivax to see it this way or point it out.

In relation to JJJ's take, I don't (or didn't) feel as pinged by these posts. #1 is probably the worst. The other two give the vibe of invested play and reading into undertext.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:09 pm I'm getting noseitches about Scotty.

First he pushes a sus on SVS - at the time (#153) it seemed to come off tutuu's own doubts, but upon revisit it seems it wasn't a sheep moment - of which the reasoning comes off flat.
Then he pushes on Vivax of off JJJ's case - and it felt like a coast; or I would have rather imagined Scotty could have come up with his own take, separately.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:49 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:46 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:09 pm I'm getting noseitches about Scotty.

First he pushes a sus on SVS - at the time (#153) it seemed to come off tutuu's own doubts, but upon revisit it seems it wasn't a sheep moment - of which the reasoning comes off flat.
Then he pushes on Vivax of off JJJ's case - and it felt like a coast; or I would have rather imagined Scotty could have come up with his own take, separately.

Maybe try a Zyrtec or something for that nose

So you’re astutely saying that I made my own case/suspicion on SVS. And then in the next sentence you are lamenting that i didn’t come up with my own take.
Coasting isn’t the word you’re looking for, by the by. That’d imply I’m floating around in one of those blow up flamingos in the ocean waiting for rescue or sharks or something.

I’m closer to ‘paddling’ towards shore on a wakeboard, occasionally riding the waves as they push me.

The two sentences are distinct.
You made a push for SVS, but there seemed to be a wave of doubting her take on the mechtalk.
You placed a hard agree on JJ's case.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:00 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:52 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:49 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:46 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:09 pm I'm getting noseitches about Scotty.

First he pushes a sus on SVS - at the time (#153) it seemed to come off tutuu's own doubts, but upon revisit it seems it wasn't a sheep moment - of which the reasoning comes off flat.
Then he pushes on Vivax of off JJJ's case - and it felt like a coast; or I would have rather imagined Scotty could have come up with his own take, separately.

Maybe try a Zyrtec or something for that nose

So you’re astutely saying that I made my own case/suspicion on SVS. And then in the next sentence you are lamenting that i didn’t come up with my own take.
Coasting isn’t the word you’re looking for, by the by. That’d imply I’m floating around in one of those blow up flamingos in the ocean waiting for rescue or sharks or something.

I’m closer to ‘paddling’ towards shore on a wakeboard, occasionally riding the waves as they push me.

The two sentences are distinct.
You made a push for SVS, but there seemed to be a wave of doubting her take on the mechtalk.
You placed a hard agree on JJ's case.

I further explained my reasoning for Vivax. That I agreed with what JJJ was seeing doesn’t mean I didn’t also have that thought separately.

But I’m not fussed about it, because I don’t really care about how my reads are being taken. I’m just vibing, baby

In theory, once you've picked a wave to surf, you can further do anything with it.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:10 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:07 pm Sean might be rly busy town or he could be mafia

Second inactive poster you focus on reading for whatever reason.

Ping.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:28 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:08 pm tutuu
martin
scotty
jay

rico
svs
zenon
rondo

sean
creature

I know this is the result of surveying the thread, but it still reads weird and off to place total inactives dead red and everything else dead town.

I highlight these posts in relative succession, because I think they're important in the broader discussion of Rico. He has been accused of commentary without stances more or less, and I haven't really seen him that way. I think can understand the perception for reasons I will highlight later in this review, but the above posts make a contrary argument. His read on Vivax is less a "stance" than a response to my own stance, but I think he provided meaningful nuance. Then he provides clear stances for both Scotty and tutuu. One may accuse Rico of "bad" stances perhaps, but not of "non"-stances, at least not in these moments.

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Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:45 pm Main wagon rn is:
- SVS vote, reasoned on tutuu's talk and ideas being sketchy
- Zenon vote, thrown off the bat
- Meatbaby vote, not even written in the thread
- motoboat, not-comprehensibly worded vote

Counterwagon rn is:
- tutuu vote, on meta
- falcon vote, unreasoned or sheeping
- vivax vote, unreasoned, after some light inquiry into the meta angle

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:47 pm Of those, Vivax exhibits either a loss of steam during the second half of today or increasingly less convincing angles and ideas, this vote being the lowest

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:00 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:56 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:54 pm yeah honestly vivax is just town imo. gut read

he looks kind of surface level scummy and he gets mischopped and he flips town. ive seen this play thousand of times. so the giga brain move here is to townread him despite him looking kinda meh, predicting that he will flip town despite looking meh. beat the system. stack the deck.

A considerable amount of giga brain moving is already requested:
- that we lynch Creature cuz they hate and shutdown when mafia
- that we lynch Sean cuz they panik and keep mum when mafia
- that we townread Vivax cuz they resort to scrambling as town

click here for big review post

I think these are the posts that give an impression of "commentary". And that's an understandable impression; it's primarily what they are. On balance I don't tend to view that kind of thing as alignment-indicative (maybe it depends on the person). Also I think it should be noted that even in the large review post, each "comment" is followed by some kind of stance. So it's not as though Rico is just hanging around saying words without using those words.

It's in that sense that I think reducing his play to "commentary" isn't really a charitable take.

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Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:05 pm Case on Scotty not playing it genuine

SVS shade, based on mechtalk, feels like a scramble to come up with some less-good to paint someone out of it (whilst there was no true, general trend to sus anyone out of that talk, save for SVS v. tutuu). The reasoning that SVS would have played it carefully doesn't feel cooked in campfire at all.

Later spins it, I feel, in a sketchy / paranoid angle of SVS being smooth killah and stuff, which feels either too early (and insubstantial) to paint such a picture or just bluff

+

Vivax suss feels like a piggyback onto JJJ's reasoning. Made me also think it's a second time he's melding with someone else (though he did the same wrt tutuu on SVS, but that is likely just a coincidental timing). Then proceeds to strengthen it in serious critical tone. Again, I feel a true Scot could / would have come out of the gates himself with that.

+

Upon re-read, most of his other pushes are flat.
Splash votes (Rondo, Wilgy, Lime).
Soft jab at JJJ for some weak (meta) apologetics.
Creates wolf team with two inactives (at that time)

+

Deflecting shades and suspicions on votes on himself with jokes, banter and haha can obviously come from either side, but coming from a mostly suss perspective, it doesn't better the read.

Full-blown case on Scotty, and perhaps the most comprehensive single case in the game to this point. Clearly Scotty flipped town, so it didn't work out. Is the case itself "playing it genuine" as Rico described for Scotty? I think so? If I want to be pessimistic and find a mafia agenda here (beyond just "mischop Scotty", which, sure), I could see an effort to pocket S~V~S given her own suspicion of Scotty maybe. But then S~V~S was night killed, so it's difficult to make that theory coherent. At absolute level 1, it was a case against a civilian, so take that as far as you feel it should be taken.

I don't want to get deep into analyzing the content of Rico's Day 2 posts. I will instead just remark that I think he has made a decent effort to stay relevant and involved despite the limitation apparently imposed upon him. He could have taken a nap, but he didn't. So that's appreciated.

~~~

I've tried to be as thorough as possible for this one and avoid confirmation bias. If I really want to squeeze, I can probably find a mafia case in here -- but I still don't feel it. At the very least, this provides a lot more clarity for the Rico-suspecters to engage with. I don't think he's the best vote today.

motobot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:19 pm I'm voting lime coke

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:39 pm sup squad

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:21 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:12 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:20 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:02 am

I guess I intentionally go 16 hours a day without eating but like if it's not intentional go eat

intermittent fasting can be quite healthy. 12 hours is not particularly long as long as you don't have any health issues which require food intake regulation.

Yeah I do 16 or try to sometimes it's closer to 15 I'm down to 263 from 280

My goal weight for surgery is 240 but my personal goal is 180 I haven't been below 260 in a year I haven't been at 240 in like 4/5 years I haven't been below 200 in 7 years when I moved here 10 years ago I was 190

Bleh.

I believe in you! Just keep up the work, and make sure you eat healthy and exercise rather than just trying to not eat.

I was at 250 during the worst of covid and I've worked my way down to about 225. I've been stuck there for about a year now though. I'd like to get back to 200. I haven't lost any weight recently, but I did start working out a lot more a few months ago, and while my weight has stayed the same, I have done some body recomposition, which feels pretty good.

I'm sure I'd lose weight faster if I worked out but I can't afford a gym or anything

hi. Ghost here.

There are lots of body weight exercises and routines you can get into even if you don’t have a gym. Making sure you do some moving after each meal and working up a sweat when you can goes a lot way in supplement to good nutrition!

You can do it! Just gotta maintain the course! Sometimes life gets in the way of a routine, but find that routine, and stick to it no matter what.

I have no clue how to do anything xD

motobot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:05 pm Sorry I wasn't posting I was at a birthday party last night and today I was at an expo center

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:20 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:02 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:57 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:39 am actually how come u aint voted jay?

Have us do the dirty work

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:41 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:20 am I am starving. I have not eaten for 11 hours.

Wtf eat

12 hrs now

I guess I intentionally go 16 hours a day without eating but like if it's not intentional go eat

intermittent fasting can be quite healthy. 12 hours is not particularly long as long as you don't have any health issues which require food intake regulation.

Yeah I do 16 or try to sometimes it's closer to 15 I'm down to 263 from 280

My goal weight for surgery is 240 but my personal goal is 180 I haven't been below 260 in a year I haven't been at 240 in like 4/5 years I haven't been below 200 in 7 years when I moved here 10 years ago I was 190

Bleh.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:56 pm @Seanzie Creature, Wilgy, Lime, Moto, Jay

3 or 4 out of these 5

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:42 pm I agree with this in isolation, but I am worried about how/when the wagon formed.

I've been pushing for Rico pretty hard, and from what I can tell a lot of people have Rico south of null, but then a few people are townreading him for having a posting restriction, which is such an easy narrative for scum to spin. The wagons yesterday easily could have been a Rico save, and honestly I'm worried we're seeing a repeat of that today (I know, I know, I voted Wilgy last night so I am part of the problem, but still).

i dont think a lot of people have rico south of null. i think its you lc and creature. me and jay were townreading rico since day 1, im unsure about others

I think Zenon had him as a lean last night but I could be wrong.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:55 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:46 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:29 pm
It's almost as if

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wolves wanted to save Rico

Yes, because that's how that works.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:46 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:29 pm

It's almost as if

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wolves wanted to save Rico

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:42 pm I agree with this in isolation, but I am worried about how/when the wagon formed.

I've been pushing for Rico pretty hard, and from what I can tell a lot of people have Rico south of null, but then a few people are townreading him for having a posting restriction, which is such an easy narrative for scum to spin. The wagons yesterday easily could have been a Rico save, and honestly I'm worried we're seeing a repeat of that today (I know, I know, I voted Wilgy last night so I am part of the problem, but still).

i dont think a lot of people have rico south of null. i think its you lc and creature. me and jay were townreading rico since day 1, im unsure about others

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:32 pm creature received pressure and he dipped

he's probably mafia

if he's that disinterested as town we aren't winning anyway

i think creature good chop

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:38 pm By my yeet shall my sins be expunged. Thank you for this blessing Seanzie and LC

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:07 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:51 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:25 pm
Vivax
6
26%

Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, Zenon, tutuu, Lime Coke, MartinGG99

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:59 pmVote: Vivax

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:32 am

I'm pretty positive I never voted Vivax

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:47 am Huh I don't remember that lol

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:47 am I don't even know why I voted there

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:49 pmVote: Vivax

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:59 pmVote: Scotty

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:59 pmVote: Vivax

Both wagons sucked by EoD

But I'm not gonna vote a vanity wagon

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:28 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:15 am are u two trying to lose weight?

belzy stop smoking weed it makes u hungry

zenon ur american ur food has nothing but sugar sorry i cant help dear

When I was in USA... their salty potato chips had way more salt in it than here... italian spices almost everywhere added sugar... what is wrong w/America

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:02 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:57 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:39 am actually how come u aint voted jay?

Have us do the dirty work

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:41 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:20 am I am starving. I have not eaten for 11 hours.

Wtf eat

12 hrs now

I guess I intentionally go 16 hours a day without eating but like if it's not intentional go eat

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:57 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:51 am die_meatbaby
zenon
porscha
belzy
rico
martin

jjj

creature
sean
rondo

limecoke

wilgy
falcon

motobot

does anyone have any qualms with this

keep in mind we're looking at 3 to 4 wolves

if u wanna take away some of my wolfreads - please offer replacements names

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:49 am ok i want to respect porscha's wishes to get back into the game

so, lets get back to being serious, guys

question for you two:

has JJJ done isos as town before?

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:12 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:07 am [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I'm just gonna step back on the Rico wagon for a bit on that since there's townreads thrown on there that I'm not understanding. But I'll listen.

I like this post a ton. LC can be town instead of town lean but not lock town status yet.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:03 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:18 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:03 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:44 pm

Do you have any scumreads that aren't just OMGUS?

Elim this plz.

Rico is honestly just town unless this is a fake restriction and I donut think it is

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:21 am sure

what about wilgy makes you want somebody to ask you about wilgy

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:04 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:44 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:38 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:06 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:50 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

they are joking btw lol, Jay is like one of the most decorated mafia players in the entire forum mafia world. he has done isos as town

If ppl are not going to be honest, I will just walk away.

no belzy belzy belzy baby come back. they didnt' mean it. they didnt know what they were saying

LOL

What are your thoughts on Belzy and Porscha?

belzy slight lean town due to tone

im slightly concerned ur asking me about porscha :/

i said i trusted ur god read on her and im ride or die with it

so if ur asking me it means ur god read is either shaky, or u dont have me as lock town

jay confirmed that my role protected us both w fire mechanic (same as listed in the op, with tinder and wood) which specifically stops mafia night kill, no other kills. if ur concerned me and him could be w/w, or if ur concerned epi made a scum role that pockets villagers by protecting them from mafia nk, i think its probably not the time for that paranoia, we have a lot of slots to mow down first

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:38 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:06 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:50 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

they are joking btw lol, Jay is like one of the most decorated mafia players in the entire forum mafia world. he has done isos as town

If ppl are not going to be honest, I will just walk away.

no belzy belzy belzy baby come back. they didnt' mean it. they didnt know what they were saying

LOL

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:14 pm Porscha

tutuu
JaggedJimmyJay
falcon45ca

Lime Coke

die_meatbaby
MartinGG99

Zenon
Belzy
DrWilgy
RondoDimBuckle

motobot
Creature

Ricochet

Rondo, Moto and Creature have all been pretty meh today. Meatbaby has as well, but I felt good enough about them D1 that they're still north of null.

I should probably ISO Zenon. I know Belzy was scumreading them, so doing so might help me sort both of them. However... that will have to wait until later because I have plans tonight.

has rondo even posted today?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:03 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:43 pm No but actual town sean on town rico vibes and wolf brad running with it vibes lol

Meh, I can see your perspective, but I think scum!Rico town!Lime is more likely. Minimally though, Rico/Lime not w/w since Lime kinda sheeping me and not independently pushing Rico will give me more towncred than Lime for a Rico-flip, so it doesn't really make sense as a bus.

I think it's a really easy way for a wolf to sponge a read and then start claiming it as their own, just like lc tried to do

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:02 pm I was trying to find a specific "let me google that for you" website where Google does the barrel roll and then pretend that's a back-flip by Google.

But it seems those sites have changed?

Sidenote I've gone through about three ISOs so far. Had to stop a bit already because I totally and absolutely did not forget that I had something to do at 8pm earlier that I just did.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:14 pm Porscha

tutuu
JaggedJimmyJay
falcon45ca

Lime Coke

die_meatbaby
MartinGG99

Zenon
Belzy
DrWilgy
RondoDimBuckle

motobot
Creature

Ricochet

Rondo, Moto and Creature have all been pretty meh today. Meatbaby has as well, but I felt good enough about them D1 that they're still north of null.

I should probably ISO Zenon. I know Belzy was scumreading them, so doing so might help me sort both of them. However... that will have to wait until later because I have plans tonight.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:17 pm I've been playing (or "interacting" with) some stuff on the Neal.Fun website, as a few days ago it had its ridiculous password creation game go apparently viral which I learned about today. One of the other games it has is the Absurd Trolly Problems, and I got through it with 58 people killed (yay?). The site has some other interesting stuff too that aren't necessarily games.

Aside from that, it seems Rondo is unable to post. Guy has not appeared today at all. In case someone hasn't noticed already.

I'm thinking about doing a re-evaluation / in-depth reads list of (almost) everyone individually because 15 players is feeling smaller than it should be. Something to re-orient my head with and maybe figure something of a world-build (most likely saying X wolves among XYZ or something of the sort, I don't have specific ideas in mind yet).

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:50 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

they are joking btw lol, Jay is like one of the most decorated mafia players in the entire forum mafia world. he has done isos as town

If ppl are not going to be honest, I will just walk away.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:03 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:44 pm

Do you have any scumreads that aren't just OMGUS?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:23 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:13 pm Hell yeah lets sheep Tutuu

Baaaaa

If a sheep sheeps a sheep who's sheeping the first sheep, what does this imply about the continuity of our existence?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:12 pm I'm mostly on board with tutuu's reads. I am less confident in Porscha, but I'll see how I feel on review.

Sean claimed godread. Thats enough

Hed never been wrong on a godread on porscha look at his confidence

Does wolf sean have the balls to do it on a wolf buddy? No he doesn't. Wolf sean is scared to post lmao

Porscha easy town

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:44 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:43 pm No but actual town sean on town rico vibes and wolf brad running with it vibes lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:10 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:08 pmIs Rico a meme?

He was hit by some post restriction

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:07 pm Why on Wilgy/Falcon?

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:02 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:25 pm
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Voters: Ricochet, DrWilgy, Vivax, die_meatbaby, falcon45ca