GG everyone. Well done Ris and Wilgy!
Sorry Lily and Creature for misreading you. Glad I at least found Falcon though.
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- Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:36 pm
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Polls locked, who was it?
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:00 pm
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if ris is resigned then I guess that's it. good job wolves.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:59 pm
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ris, vote Wilgy.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:56 pm
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Lily supported my Creature case and broke the tie eod2 but of course all this is my fault and not at all hers...Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:26 pmit's ether
seanzie/wilgy
or
seanzie/falcon
seanzie is the common denominator and the person who had gotten both wagoned villagers killed therefore I vote seanzie
i TR you and am leaning that the team is seanzie/falcon because Wilgy seems a lot townier than falcon
Yup.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:55 pm
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- Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:27 pm
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@risiinq- please check in and confirm you know when EoD is.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:12 pm
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"Flavor and role not tied to alignment"
Also you claim you were something that you didn't know what it would or would not do, and considering the roles I've seen flip and my own role, I could easily see Frank!Nanook giving a wolf a weird role like that, I'd kinda guess that like almost all our roles are like largely useless with the exception of some crazy edge case.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:06 pm
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@falcon45ca can we please kill this?Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:03 pmI've played a few games with you here and I have a hard time seeing you as a villager leading the wagon on a villager day 1, and then creating a tie to kill a flipped villager day 2 and then touting that you're "clearly town." I don't need to know your meta super well to know that's weird and not how I perceive you as a villager.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:57 pmYou don't know me, please don't pretend to.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:55 pmthis aint ur town game I respect your town game a lot more than this lol
I am saying kill you and then resolve wilgy/falcon in f3. It could be wilgy yeah but he seemed way more inquisitive and solvey than falcon prior, I do think he can be your partner though
You still aren't addressing the issue. Explain how my EoD2 makes any sense unless it is exactly Seanzie/Wilgy. Because earlier today you somehow went from heavily suspecting Wilgy D2, to more-or-less dropping that and pushing Seanzie/Falcon, even though the main reason you were pushing me over makes no sense in a Seanzie/Falcon world.
I'm not here to solve teams in f5. I'm here to kill the wolf that has powerwolfed the whole game and then if I'm alive in f3 I will analyze spew and check isos and find your teammate.
"Seanzie's outed because he made a tie!" tie only makes sense in Seanzie/Wilgy world "I'm not considering teammates!" then why is the tie a bad thing? "Seanzie's outed because he made a tie!"
This is a wolf that doesn't have an actual argument and so is just trying to skim by on their shallow case that isn't thought through.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:57 pm
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You don't know me, please don't pretend to.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:55 pmthis aint ur town game I respect your town game a lot more than this lol
I am saying kill you and then resolve wilgy/falcon in f3. It could be wilgy yeah but he seemed way more inquisitive and solvey than falcon prior, I do think he can be your partner though
You still aren't addressing the issue. Explain how my EoD2 makes any sense unless it is exactly Seanzie/Wilgy. Because earlier today you somehow went from heavily suspecting Wilgy D2, to more-or-less dropping that and pushing Seanzie/Falcon, even though the main reason you were pushing me over makes no sense in a Seanzie/Falcon world.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:55 pm
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The only thing that is giving me pause on my solve is the fact that Ris kind of feels disconnected from the game.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:51 pm
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- Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:34 pm
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- Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:07 pm
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- Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:19 pm
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@risiinq- you haven't voted yet. It's okay, but I just wanted to make sure you're aware that EoD is later today (in about 5.5 hours), so I want to make sure you do vote before then.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:09 pm
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I'm going to laugh if its Falcon/Rising and I'm just here 3rd wolfing
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:35 am
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It is true that I want Lily first, but I am like 98% convinced on the team at this point, so I am okay with Wilgy first.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:31 am I have to trust somebody this RD, and it's risiin. He's not as clear as I'd like tbh, but I have to start somewhere.
My POE has 2/3 in Wilgy, Lily and Sean, and based off EOD, it's Wilgy that should be first. Whomever his teammate is is gonna push for the other one to flip first, ie Sean is gonna want Lily if he's W, and Lily is gonna want Sean if she's W, so our best strat is my mind is Wilgy first.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:19 am
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I didn't really sus your slot. I said that to see how people would react, but almost no one reacted.
Anyways, at some point earlier in the game I suspected you, but I don't anymore. It's not TMI to notice that Lily and Wilgy are always going to vote together, and to know that I am almost always going to try to vote with Falcon because they are the one I trust, and I am 99.9% sure Lily and Wilgy will vote either me or Falcon, and I don't want to vote you, so there will almost always be a cross here between the four of us, and your vote will be the tiebreaker. I see how you could try to think of that as TMI, but I don't actually assume anything about your alignment here, just that your vote is the only one that I don't really know approximately where it will land yet.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:14 am
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I thought more about the Lily/WIlgy thing, and I think the game is just over.
Let's look at Lily's D3. To set the scene remember that we just had EoD2 where it was Wilgy/Screen, and Lily "really wanted Wilgy to go over" and I tied it, and Lily moved to Screen.
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Yeah, that's a wrap folks. This is a wolf. Wilgy is their partner. They want to win today, which is why Lily has insta-dropped all sus of Wilgy and is now gunning for me and solely me (because Falcon isn't a miselim I will allow, so they have little choice but to push here).
Let's look at Lily's D3. To set the scene remember that we just had EoD2 where it was Wilgy/Screen, and Lily "really wanted Wilgy to go over" and I tied it, and Lily moved to Screen.
So Lily thinks I'm a wolf. Why would my EoD be wolfy? It makes sense in a Seanzie/Wilgy world, but really doesn't in any other world (at least at a level 1 level, but regardless)
Now this is how LIly treats Wilgy, the person whom Lily wanted dead D2 and the person that in any reasonable world town!Lily would assume was my partnert from EoD2. They do throw in the "I do find it suspicious that Seanzie saved you though", but otherwise this is a MAJOR 180 on Wilgy, brushing off their earlier suspicion as if it was nothing, and not expressing any major suspicion (aside from a little tying of me and Wilgy together)
Okay, votes me, still seems locked into thinking I must be wolf based off EoD2 without considering Wilgy at all.
Woah there! Falcon? Uh.... what happened to Wilgy? How does my EoD2 make sense as wolfy with this team? Is this just OMGUS on Falcon, or... could it be... they want to win today...?
Absolutely no paranoia about Wilgy here aside from a little forgotten thought at the end that they have to consider a world where Wilgy is wolf. They went from wanting Wigly dead D2 to this.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:23 pmI thought screen was town so if you died me screen snow alive it's just falcon seanDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:19 pmDon't understand this one. You'd be saying the same thing about Screen had I flipped.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:15 pmYes. I think had you died the game would be solved lolDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:10 pmWere you on me prior to Screen?Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pmI was under the impression a tie would mean no one dies, no?
How I see it is you voted screen forcing it to 3-3
Eod was inactive and I was the only one there to stop it so in my eyes you were either hardcore griefing or a wolf. I was forced to vote screen despite TRing him to break the tie. You then used me swapping my vote to justify your vote. Just bad stuff lol
And then if you were town you would enter today voting me so you voting Snow is incredibly weird and almost outing. Why didn't you enter the day sus of me?
Or u flip wolf kill Sean-> falcon game ends
Now here's Wilgy... did they ever actually ISO Lily? It seems like this is an excuse to try to keep pressure on me and off Lily.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:28 pm That makes sense I suppose.
I just started on Lily ISO, but I'm just hung up on something.
Does Sean honestly believe in a Lily/Wilgy team? Sean's position right now is somewhat silly. If they are town and suspecting me, my teammate would have to be Falcon who they are hard town reading. Doesn't make sense.
Still hasn't considered a Sean/Wilgy team even though that was the whole premise of them thnking I was outed scum based on EoD2.
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Yeah, that's a wrap folks. This is a wolf. Wilgy is their partner. They want to win today, which is why Lily has insta-dropped all sus of Wilgy and is now gunning for me and solely me (because Falcon isn't a miselim I will allow, so they have little choice but to push here).
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:53 am
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I think it is wholeheartedly possibly that Lily used the tie last night as an excuse to save Wilgy, whom before when I was strongly pushing against a screen elim, Wilgy kind of needed to be bussed until that opportunity presented itself.
Aside from that, it is more about independent scumreads on each one along with a social clear on Falcon and feeling just kinda meh about the idea of you being scum.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:43 am
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Falcon doesn't like wolfing. It makes him uncomfortable having to lie and make stuff up. He can do it to a degree, but ime when he does, his posts ring hallow and you can catch him clearly feeling uncomfortable about pushes and things. I don't feel that at all here. Read his ISO, not for content, but for comfort level.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:31 am
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It seems bery likely that Rising will be the deciding vote, so @risiinq- I am an open book, come find me and let me help you find Falcon too.
- Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:28 am
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I think I'm at Lily>Wilgy>Rising>Falcon.
If I'm wrong on Falcon, sorry. I am also kind of okay giving Rising a pass today, even though I don't think they're beyond reproach.
Lily/Wilgy do fit as a team. I think Lily/Rising is more likely than Wilgy/Rising (even though idk why? It just feels more right), so I'd prefer Lily but am okay staying on Wilgy right now to consolidate votes.
If I'm wrong on Falcon, sorry. I am also kind of okay giving Rising a pass today, even though I don't think they're beyond reproach.
Lily/Wilgy do fit as a team. I think Lily/Rising is more likely than Wilgy/Rising (even though idk why? It just feels more right), so I'd prefer Lily but am okay staying on Wilgy right now to consolidate votes.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:08 pm
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Nanook told us so in wolf chat.risiinq- wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:49 pmwhere does it say this?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:09 amDon't do this. @Lilypetal be careful. I didn't know this until yesterday but scum has a flavor vig, which can easily lose us the game if anyone fullclaims.risiinq- wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:57 am i misread srceenplay tho, i have no idea what went wrong there
i don't think lily moving her vote was bad for her but i am curious why after being called out on that she has spent a few posts defending herself from specifically that
btw @Lilypetal can u lmk ur claim more clearly? i never got it
like, u detected a post with lie detector and got no result
and then u turned vt
so did u know u were like a 1-shot lie detector?
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:56 pm
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I think it's Rising.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 3:01 pm
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I believe her, but as I've already explained, I don't think that says much about her alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:43 pmThoughts on Lily thinking a tie would be a no lynch? Do you believe her?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:03 pmHmm... so it doesn't...falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:20 amHer roleblock does not stop factional abilities, we are in spec city.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:15 amI don't think we are in speculation city about Neon's action. I think it is almost certain that Neon RB'd Rising night 1, and that was her "soft clear", which does give a little weight to town!Rising, and if they are wolf, they are likely wolf with someone who was in a better thread position than Rising was in after d1.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:11 amNeon this is why you tell town as much as you can about your checks when you out them, or at least before the EOD, cuz now we're in speculation citySeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:03 am Ehh... I've made backwards progress.
I am no longer so convinced Neon's kill says much about Rising.
In a w!rising world, wolves know Neon's check is fake, and if they didn't kill Neon, the question "why didn't Neon die?" would have been the main point of discussion, which would have forced Neon\Rising into the spotlight. Neon would have probably outed that she just RB'd Rising so it isn't a hard clear, and we all would have probably come to the conclusion that Rising is a wolf, since otherwise one of Neon or Rising would've been NK'd. This ends almost always with Rising being the elim.
So what other option would a w!Rising team have, other than to kill Neon and hope that it makes it look like wolves believed Neon's claim?
Now, I want to make sure it is clear, I am NOT saying that this is evidence of w!Rising, instead, I think Neon's clear is not evidence of t!Rising, and the NK is Rising-alignment agnostic.
Which is kind of unfortunate because it does make the game much harder.
And before y'all try to make out like I'm trying to widen the PoE, I am doing that, but only because I am not convinced of my current solve, and so am doing due-diligence in F5.
To me the question is if town!Lily would have switched to Screen or screamed as the thread to get someone to move to Wilgy. idk what I think about that yet.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:06 pm
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Ehh... actually I learned that trick from Dizzy - as a wolf it can be a good idea to mess with t/t wagons. If you flip before wagons are resolved, people suspect the wagoned, if the wagons flip before you do, people clear you for being so involved in t/t wagons where it doesn't make sense to be (in a level 0 way) as wolf.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:36 amLike, why does W Sean create a tie if the wagons are T/T? What's the motivation?
I don't see how you view Sean as W!, who didn't try and save his partner by at least tying wagons for either a no lynch, or a coin toss...why am I his partner in this scenario?
It doesn't make sense that W! Sean does that unless Wilgy is his teammate
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:03 pm
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Hmm... so it doesn't...falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:20 amHer roleblock does not stop factional abilities, we are in spec city.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:15 amI don't think we are in speculation city about Neon's action. I think it is almost certain that Neon RB'd Rising night 1, and that was her "soft clear", which does give a little weight to town!Rising, and if they are wolf, they are likely wolf with someone who was in a better thread position than Rising was in after d1.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:11 amNeon this is why you tell town as much as you can about your checks when you out them, or at least before the EOD, cuz now we're in speculation citySeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:03 am Ehh... I've made backwards progress.
I am no longer so convinced Neon's kill says much about Rising.
In a w!rising world, wolves know Neon's check is fake, and if they didn't kill Neon, the question "why didn't Neon die?" would have been the main point of discussion, which would have forced Neon\Rising into the spotlight. Neon would have probably outed that she just RB'd Rising so it isn't a hard clear, and we all would have probably come to the conclusion that Rising is a wolf, since otherwise one of Neon or Rising would've been NK'd. This ends almost always with Rising being the elim.
So what other option would a w!Rising team have, other than to kill Neon and hope that it makes it look like wolves believed Neon's claim?
Now, I want to make sure it is clear, I am NOT saying that this is evidence of w!Rising, instead, I think Neon's clear is not evidence of t!Rising, and the NK is Rising-alignment agnostic.
Which is kind of unfortunate because it does make the game much harder.
And before y'all try to make out like I'm trying to widen the PoE, I am doing that, but only because I am not convinced of my current solve, and so am doing due-diligence in F5.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:26 am
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Why would me making it a tie make me a wolf? In a world where ties are no-elims, wouldn't that be TWTBAW?Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:21 ami normally play mafia while doing other stuff and i went to this tab and saw u had made it a tie so i was like what the fuck ever and voted screen after like complaining abt u making it a tieSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:32 am Speaking of which,
@Lilypetal can you put me in your headspace during that tie? What sis you think of the fact that I moved to screen play? Did you try to get me or anyone else around to move back? Dis the whole thing happen fast or did it feel like time had slowed down?
if i remember correctly
i was doing something else so i couldn't rly threadcamp and see if u would change it back
i just went ugh this bitch a wolf
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:15 am
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I don't think we are in speculation city about Neon's action. I think it is almost certain that Neon RB'd Rising night 1, and that was her "soft clear", which does give a little weight to town!Rising, and if they are wolf, they are likely wolf with someone who was in a better thread position than Rising was in after d1.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:11 amNeon this is why you tell town as much as you can about your checks when you out them, or at least before the EOD, cuz now we're in speculation citySeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:03 am Ehh... I've made backwards progress.
I am no longer so convinced Neon's kill says much about Rising.
In a w!rising world, wolves know Neon's check is fake, and if they didn't kill Neon, the question "why didn't Neon die?" would have been the main point of discussion, which would have forced Neon\Rising into the spotlight. Neon would have probably outed that she just RB'd Rising so it isn't a hard clear, and we all would have probably come to the conclusion that Rising is a wolf, since otherwise one of Neon or Rising would've been NK'd. This ends almost always with Rising being the elim.
So what other option would a w!Rising team have, other than to kill Neon and hope that it makes it look like wolves believed Neon's claim?
Now, I want to make sure it is clear, I am NOT saying that this is evidence of w!Rising, instead, I think Neon's clear is not evidence of t!Rising, and the NK is Rising-alignment agnostic.
Which is kind of unfortunate because it does make the game much harder.
And before y'all try to make out like I'm trying to widen the PoE, I am doing that, but only because I am not convinced of my current solve, and so am doing due-diligence in F5.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:09 am
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Don't do this. @Lilypetal be careful. I didn't know this until yesterday but scum has a flavor vig, which can easily lose us the game if anyone fullclaims.risiinq- wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:57 am i misread srceenplay tho, i have no idea what went wrong there
i don't think lily moving her vote was bad for her but i am curious why after being called out on that she has spent a few posts defending herself from specifically that
btw @Lilypetal can u lmk ur claim more clearly? i never got it
like, u detected a post with lie detector and got no result
and then u turned vt
so did u know u were like a 1-shot lie detector?
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:03 am
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Ehh... I've made backwards progress.
I am no longer so convinced Neon's kill says much about Rising.
In a w!rising world, wolves know Neon's check is fake, and if they didn't kill Neon, the question "why didn't Neon die?" would have been the main point of discussion, which would have forced Neon\Rising into the spotlight. Neon would have probably outed that she just RB'd Rising so it isn't a hard clear, and we all would have probably come to the conclusion that Rising is a wolf, since otherwise one of Neon or Rising would've been NK'd. This ends almost always with Rising being the elim.
So what other option would a w!Rising team have, other than to kill Neon and hope that it makes it look like wolves believed Neon's claim?
Now, I want to make sure it is clear, I am NOT saying that this is evidence of w!Rising, instead, I think Neon's clear is not evidence of t!Rising, and the NK is Rising-alignment agnostic.
Which is kind of unfortunate because it does make the game much harder.
And before y'all try to make out like I'm trying to widen the PoE, I am doing that, but only because I am not convinced of my current solve, and so am doing due-diligence in F5.
I am no longer so convinced Neon's kill says much about Rising.
In a w!rising world, wolves know Neon's check is fake, and if they didn't kill Neon, the question "why didn't Neon die?" would have been the main point of discussion, which would have forced Neon\Rising into the spotlight. Neon would have probably outed that she just RB'd Rising so it isn't a hard clear, and we all would have probably come to the conclusion that Rising is a wolf, since otherwise one of Neon or Rising would've been NK'd. This ends almost always with Rising being the elim.
So what other option would a w!Rising team have, other than to kill Neon and hope that it makes it look like wolves believed Neon's claim?
Now, I want to make sure it is clear, I am NOT saying that this is evidence of w!Rising, instead, I think Neon's clear is not evidence of t!Rising, and the NK is Rising-alignment agnostic.
Which is kind of unfortunate because it does make the game much harder.
And before y'all try to make out like I'm trying to widen the PoE, I am doing that, but only because I am not convinced of my current solve, and so am doing due-diligence in F5.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:13 am
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@DrWilgy sell me on Falcon.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:38 am
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[VOTE:
Wilgy] aubergine
remembered my vote was still on Rising.
remembered my vote was still on Rising.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:33 am
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Re: It's "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" d3
Regardless of Lily's alignment, I kind of believe Lily thought a tie would be a no-elim, so I could easily see wolf!Lily think that breaking a tie would be a good look, yes.risiinq- wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:31 amyou think lily using the tie as an excuse is towny??Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:30 amThere is a third possibility, that Lily used the tie as an excuse to do something they thought they would look townie while also saving a partnerDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:57 pmNo, but it being your entire argument and case is weak.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:52 pmSpelling words with mixed caps and lower cases doesn't make it invalid.
You don't look at wagon patterns when hunting wolves eh? Interesting
So you don't believe Lily's claim that they thought a tie would be a no lynch? Or do you believe Lily and think that it makes it scumsided to avoid a no lynch?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:55 pm Why are ties bad?
Well, if your wolf teammate is one of the wagons, yeah.
There's no reason a tie was anti-town last RD, except if Wilgy is Maf.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:32 am
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Speaking of which,
@Lilypetal can you put me in your headspace during that tie? What sis you think of the fact that I moved to screen play? Did you try to get me or anyone else around to move back? Dis the whole thing happen fast or did it feel like time had slowed down?
@Lilypetal can you put me in your headspace during that tie? What sis you think of the fact that I moved to screen play? Did you try to get me or anyone else around to move back? Dis the whole thing happen fast or did it feel like time had slowed down?
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:30 am
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Re: It's "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" d3
There is a third possibility, that Lily used the tie as an excuse to do something they thought they would look townie while also saving a partnerDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:57 pmNo, but it being your entire argument and case is weak.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:52 pmSpelling words with mixed caps and lower cases doesn't make it invalid.
You don't look at wagon patterns when hunting wolves eh? Interesting
So you don't believe Lily's claim that they thought a tie would be a no lynch? Or do you believe Lily and think that it makes it scumsided to avoid a no lynch?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:55 pm Why are ties bad?
Well, if your wolf teammate is one of the wagons, yeah.
There's no reason a tie was anti-town last RD, except if Wilgy is Maf.
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:28 am
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Re: It's "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" d3
I mean, tbf you seem to not be considering a lily team at all?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:55 pmMore bs and you know it. You can say 'outted outted' without reason until you are blue and it doesn't make it an actual statement. Town Falcon 100% would be weighing the Lily/Seanzie team here.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:51 pmYou weren't outted when I was voting you. EOD thp, that was very outting, and it should be clear as dayDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:42 pmYou were voting me before the EoD debacle, so clearly your reasoning is false.
Desired a moment to ensure that I'm not conf biasing into your vote and instead of solving you're like 'nah outed wolf clearly'
Or you were voting me, Screen needed to save themselves and Lily didn't trust the tie? Hmmm????falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:34 pmThere's no reason at all for this to have happened unless Wilgy is Maf.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Screen (4): neon, lily, risiinq, sean
Wilgy (2): screen, falcon
Not voting (1): wilgy
- Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:23 am
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Re: It's "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" d3
Uhh... did you quote the right post? Lily saying that "your posts just felt kinda forced" doesn't exactly scream "must be unteamed"?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:18 pmMainly this:Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:13 pmOh, I thought this was to me, but yes Lily was on Wilgy prior to Screen.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:11 pmYesDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:10 pmWere you on me prior to Screen?Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pmI was under the impression a tie would mean no one dies, no?
How I see it is you voted screen forcing it to 3-3
Eod was inactive and I was the only one there to stop it so in my eyes you were either hardcore griefing or a wolf. I was forced to vote screen despite TRing him to break the tie. You then used me swapping my vote to justify your vote. Just bad stuff lol
And then if you were town you would enter today voting me so you voting Snow is incredibly weird and almost outing. Why didn't you enter the day sus of me?
@DrWilgy I still haven't seen what spat is supposed to clear you/Lily.I'd be hard pressed to believe you think Lily and I are aligned after Lily goes in on me like so.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:30 pmi dunno your post just felt kinda forced like
i put out a tr basd on recent experiences with creature
sean counters with oh actually creature's play here more closely mirrors his wolf games here u go look at it
i read the wolf game and go oh shit you're right!
i vote creature
"but he's a TR" makes no sense to say because obviously I have seen evidence and changed my read accordingly
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:15 pm
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Re: It's "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" d3
Goodnight y'all!
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:13 pm
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Oh, I thought this was to me, but yes Lily was on Wilgy prior to Screen.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:11 pmYesDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:10 pmWere you on me prior to Screen?Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pmI was under the impression a tie would mean no one dies, no?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pmWhy is a tie an issue?
How I see it is you voted screen forcing it to 3-3
Eod was inactive and I was the only one there to stop it so in my eyes you were either hardcore griefing or a wolf. I was forced to vote screen despite TRing him to break the tie. You then used me swapping my vote to justify your vote. Just bad stuff lol
And then if you were town you would enter today voting me so you voting Snow is incredibly weird and almost outing. Why didn't you enter the day sus of me?
@DrWilgy I still haven't seen what spat is supposed to clear you/Lily.
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:11 pm
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YesDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:10 pmWere you on me prior to Screen?Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pmI was under the impression a tie would mean no one dies, no?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pmWhy is a tie an issue?
How I see it is you voted screen forcing it to 3-3
Eod was inactive and I was the only one there to stop it so in my eyes you were either hardcore griefing or a wolf. I was forced to vote screen despite TRing him to break the tie. You then used me swapping my vote to justify your vote. Just bad stuff lol
And then if you were town you would enter today voting me so you voting Snow is incredibly weird and almost outing. Why didn't you enter the day sus of me?
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:10 pm
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Re: It's "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" d3
A tie likely rands since nothing is said in the setup.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pmI was under the impression a tie would mean no one dies, no?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pmWhy is a tie an issue?
How I see it is you voted screen forcing it to 3-3
Eod was inactive and I was the only one there to stop it so in my eyes you were either hardcore griefing or a wolf. I was forced to vote screen despite TRing him to break the tie. You then used me swapping my vote to justify your vote. Just bad stuff lol
And then if you were town you would enter today voting me so you voting Snow is incredibly weird and almost outing. Why didn't you enter the day sus of me?
After you moved I actually worried because in many Nanook games a tie is decided by wolves, and I only remembered that after you moved, so was worried about moving back.
If your actions at eod were from town, why would you expect me to come into today voting you? My mind was on Neon's flip and FPS clear.
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pm
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at least we both want Wilgy.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:01 pm Also kinda reads like someone who's intentionally trying to emulate their town meta
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:03 pm
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Re: It's "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" d3
I mean... I am expecting a red flip on Wilgy? And I do want to not be miselimed in F3? So... yes? But more so I'm not going to stand for you saying I had "no reason" to do something where my reason is clear.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pmHaha, given I'm already stating Wilgy needs to go first, this reads like someone who expects a red flip and is prepping for the next RDSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:59 pmCheck my voting record in like... almost all games I'm town in. I regularly purposefully tie things to see how people react. I do it so much that I sometimes purposefully emulate it when I'm a wolf because if I didn't, it might be suspicious.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:57 pmSean has no reason to get on Screens wagon, and asked me to recindised my vote on their wagon earlier.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:55 pmIs this the primary suspicion towards both Sean and I? that interaction?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:53 pm Sean had absolutely zero need to move except to save his Maf buddy Wilgy
Surely you can see that pairing, or you and lily I spose as well.
You first tho
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pm
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Why is a tie an issue?
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:59 pm
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Check my voting record in like... almost all games I'm town in. I regularly purposefully tie things to see how people react. I do it so much that I sometimes purposefully emulate it when I'm a wolf because if I didn't, it might be suspicious.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:57 pmSean has no reason to get on Screens wagon, and asked me to recindised my vote on their wagon earlier.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:55 pmIs this the primary suspicion towards both Sean and I? that interaction?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:53 pm Sean had absolutely zero need to move except to save his Maf buddy Wilgy
Surely you can see that pairing, or you and lily I spose as well.
You first tho
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:57 pm
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I agree with Wilgy that Ris is probably clear, and if I hold on to my townlean of you, then that only leaves Wilgy and Lily by PoE. Should I not townread you?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:53 pmSo it's Lily for you?
- Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:56 pm
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Re: It's "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" d1
I don't remember any squabble, I just know they voted to save you when it counted and I am seeing better reasons to townread Falcon and Ris. Cite it and I will consider it.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:45 pmSo you are implying a Wilgy/Lily team in spite of our squabble?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:40 pmEasy enough then. I'm going to trust my Falcon townread, so I'm sure you can figure out where my head is at in a town!rising world.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:28 pm Ris spends alot of time D1 mulling over Porscha.
Ultimately ends with a TR on Porscha/NeonAnd a slight green on Falcrisiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:26 am porscha and neon are my temp town rn
neon bc of vibecheck - they're the one who feels the most comfortable in thread at all times imo
porscha partly bc of vibecheck, ig
i rmb there were a few posts i thought looked like v!porscha
granted i haven't actually played with w!porscha, but yeaAnd Sean,risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:28 ami think it was this one tbh, looking at their iso now it's not as good as i thought it was fsr, but this commentary + sass was nice to seefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:34 amSame...but what are screens thoughts?
They've got a "feels" vote on Sean, and also tossed in risiing as a teammate...then some stuff about how Maf want Town second guessing themselves...OK.
And then a comment on Lily not being worth a vote for...well, who knows cuz' screen doesn't sayI would like to point out that the reads all feel really waffley.
First and only real interaction with Lily. (also Ris hasn't interacted with me either, suppose I wasn't around much d2, so maybe this means nothing re Lily.)
Contributed to screenplay wagon
Last thing of interest was Falcon voting for some contrary statements.risiinq- wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:32 amhm? wdym?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:44 amAt EOD? Yes there wererisiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:59 ami mean... were there any competing wagons thenfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:57 pm
I like voting screen, but I wouldn't say they were a strong wagon...I don't belive there was ever more than 2 votes on their slot IIRC
Interesting to note that you claim that screen was a competing wagon, and then question if there were any competing wagons
[VOTE: risiin] aubergine
i say that i thought that srceen was a competing wagon iirc, you say there were never more than 2 votes on them (which really is not enough)
and then i question if there were any at all in that case
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There's not much from the ISO, but I think that furthers the idea that Ris wouldn't kill Neon here. I think Ris's iso is decently weak in the sense that there isn't much hunting being done. Not much to invalidate the Falcon/Ris theory I spoke about previously, but also it really doesn't make sense for it to be Ris under these conditions. Perhaps this is also supported by the Porscha interactions D1, but maybe I'm making too much of it.
Sean, what do you think? You seem to be vested in the Ris SR.
Also, detail me on Falcon. I'm going through the ISO now and am up to Creature's flip. So far, I see Falcon asking alot of questions, but I'm not sure if I'm seeing the drawing of conclusions. Perhaps I'm looking for it too much as 'find where Falcon is avoiding lying' is how to catch them if W.
Falcon often feels extremely stilted as a wolf, and I haven't felt that. I plan to re-eval them at some point, but I am tucked into bed right meow so that point will not be today.