The Syndicate

Syn wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:32 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:47 pm[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine
town losses in limlo are nearly always because town instant votes like this - stop doing this in limlo
thank you, no

Noted in case you ever roll town against me when im scum

Syn wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 1:04 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 11:48 pm tsp in spec chat: “nah Syn won’t quickhammer, he’s smarter than that”
You have let me down
idk why you'd think that, I have quickhammered in every single F3 I've ever been in

I largely find them to be wastes of time

and look at how often you win them doing it that way

Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:47 pm[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

town losses in limlo are nearly always because town instant votes like this - stop doing this in limlo

gg i was maf

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:58 pm i'd way rather chop lc then falcon for secret reasons

are u masons with falcon?

i mean at this point we're at the point where we either are tinfoiling eachother or we "trim the fat" meaning shoot outside those who will surely be participatory later and help solve.

if falcon flips town here i might be a little disappointed and im always paranoid about a wagon i initiated and pushed flipping town bc i dont want to be the center of negative attention d2 butyeah

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:56 pm not sure how much i can meaningfully impact this EOD in 4 minutes

give us a name

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:55 pm i think falcon posting less than expected could be mafia indicative but is probably nai and the posts he has made have been towny adn i'll vote him cause he has 12 posts and there's not hing else to do

which posts do u find towny?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:54 pm Koba/spf - there could be a link there. If I'm not mistaken spf gave an awkwardly long response answering something about Koba. Could be some energy between them. /for later.

wdym?

i will change votes to break the tie unless @Long Con actually cares about living d1 and wants to join us on falcon today

but seriously - i dont try to sort spf on day 1 because i have had extremely terrible reads on her on d1s as town in the past. i do like putting pressure on her to get her to actually participate, but we are not so good at reading eachother unless the other is blatant in either direction.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm Dk can you give me a sentence on spf

spf lied

i want to just bullshit a read and say gavial / falcon has 1 scum between them

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm I'm not inspired by the Falcon wagon tbh. I'm ok to stay on LC.

Alison or even spf would be super spicy.

Gavial wild card. I guess Koba too, considering I don't know their meta, but I read them town.

Tony town probably. First instinct probably correct.

i am a wild card early game u are right, but it is worth to keep me alive, i very often resolve myself via the nightkill because im someone who inspires town to be active and thus am a very good kill for scum regardless of how well they might think they can get me limmed because i am very resistant to getting limmed. als owe have 10 minutes oh my how the time has gone by

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm where tf is the iso feature.
if you're on desktop then by someone's posts you can click the number after "posts in thread" and it pulls up their iso

yes i know that but like thats so terrible there needs to be an activity overview like mafiascum has

actually on reread, i can't actually bring myself to townread gav and i have some experience in sorting those types of playstyles - they seem to be egging on conflict and i dont like it.

where tf is the iso feature.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:45 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm based on PoE, I think Alison, Falcon, and one of Invictus/Glavial/Spf/nanook are scum here

if i were to materialize the game universe as i see it with the people i have marked as town thus far
Who's Glavial?

I know you definitely don't mean Gavial because a page ago you called him town and berated me for voting him.

did I?

i remember saying i havent exactly read and remembered any of their posts but that none of them stuck out as scummy to me

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pm Not much time

I'm honestly a bit uninspired, sorry.

I haven't read back and forth between Invictus and HK as I think they are probably both town. I will read it at some point though, just don't have the time.

One thing I found mildly suspicious from LC was how he reacted to my vote. He was more upset about it being a "lazy vote" and that he didn't deserve it above Nanook. I read that as more of a scum perspective, and I know LC have felt like he doesn't deserve suspicion as scum before because he hasn't "done anything wrong". That post also didn't have any other value that I could find. Still not confident in LC as scum here though. He's pretty frantic.

Alison not being here is a bummer.

Spf is pretty chill this game. I'm not totally convinced actually. I liked her getting right to sorting in the beginning, but it's gotten weaker after that.

Same for me probably. Less sure than ever, but that's ok.

Falcon is the meh-est chop. He hasn't posted anything really. If he flips town it's like ....ok?

yeah falcon flipping town is like my biggest concern but i think friction in trying to get that lim happening is like gamestate indicative they are scum - all i have to really go off of is their opportunistic vote on me as evidence as well as a PoE method of narrowing down where the pool of scum is.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm i just also got banned

then why post here..?

based on PoE, I think Alison, Falcon, and one of Invictus/Glavial/Spf/nanook are scum here

if i were to materialize the game universe as i see it with the people i have marked as town thus far

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf
i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...
If only you'd actually townslipped
being less informed about the setup(being unaware of the playercount and thus not being focused on how many miselims there are) leans town IMO.

unless you think i came in and said "let me fake a townslip and draw attention to it while im already mostly townread/not on the lim list for majority"
Not necessarily. Some players just pay more attention to that kind of stuff.

For example while I’m town this game, I almost never have any idea how many players are in the game and don’t really care about set up. Mechanics aren’t my thing

you.. just agreed with my point while saying you disagree..

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm DkK, a lot of what you post are just meta thoughts about the game or mafia in general, play styles etc. You talk a lot about solving, but for me, I want to see more effort from you into analysing people's alignments.

i have parsed people's alignments. i have given several townreads and have a PoE already, which will be more defined once I have flip info.

longcon is doing the any% speedrun to vote every townie in this game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf
i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...
If only you'd actually townslipped

being less informed about the setup(being unaware of the playercount and thus not being focused on how many miselims there are) leans town IMO.

unless you think i came in and said "let me fake a townslip and draw attention to it while im already mostly townread/not on the lim list for majority"

i dont feel spf has played this game with an agenda thus far and so im leaning town in her direction although her lack of presence at EoD concerns me although i do understand she does have a newish job of which i dont know the details of when she is at it

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:09 am Invictus, dizzy, hk, spf, falcon all town

I'm going back to hibernation now, more reads in 2-4 business days
Read on dizzy and HK seems question mark I agree on the others
normally I'd say anyone who has a solid read on me D1 is a fool or a liar but I don't think nanook is either

do u enjoy flipping scum?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf

i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...

i havent actually properly parsed gav's posts but like nothing has stood out as egregious or bad idk why ppl would want to policy there?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:30 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:29 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:29 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:27 pmalso uh just realized we are in a 13p setup i forgot this was a MS setup with MS balance.. LMAO
What does that mean?
means i townslipped bc i thought it was a 15p yeehaw
That's not much of a townslip.

im pretty sure its a townslip(def no bias xd) but i mean u can feel free to discred me, it shows a position you are taking on my statement

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:29 pm Thank you.

What is MS?

mafiascum, that forum mafia site that is older than some mafia players.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:29 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:27 pmalso uh just realized we are in a 13p setup i forgot this was a MS setup with MS balance.. LMAO
What does that mean?

means i townslipped bc i thought it was a 15p yeehaw

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:28 pm I’m gonna give you a GTH list actually finger

Alison W
DkKoba T
Dyslexicon W
falcon45ca T
Fingersplints T
Gavial T
Hollowkatt T
Invictius T
Long Con T
Marmot W
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME T
Staypositivefriend W
tonystarkprime T

much appreciated +1

im probably content settling on falcon based on how they pinged me when they voted me but i dont like how little info there is for this dayphase.

we have 30 minutes.

@Dyslexicon
@Marmot
@Alison
@falcon45ca

have not seen these names in a while

also uh just realized we are in a 13p setup i forgot this was a MS setup with MS balance.. LMAO

like i dont like to assume everyone has the same level of accuracy that the best players might have - some like me are slow starters. some are super good in the beginning and falter later. some just are pretty decent throughout. and some are just average and thats ok, it helps spice up the game. lets read around it and win, though, and avoid common town mistakes like targeting people fo elimination being wrong, inflammatory, or having a different personality, as long as they are showing any sort of effort to solve we should be trying to read their motivation.

I don't scumread finger, I think their perspective is town. I don't think being wrong means u are scum, in fact having a slightly flawed viewpoint can be town indicative in the way that it shows you are uninformed.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:19 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:18 pm LC imma be honest i dont think ur reads are like well founded in good faith - like why is Gavial scum here?

like i say this as I dont want to have to defend you from people eager to lim a slot that is playing poorly and want to in fact help you not play poorly here and cooperate with town and good faith hunt rather than push people who are >rand town lol
What do you mean by "good faith"? I think he could be scum. I thought so earlier, and his zaniness seems too forced.

or that could just be their personality...

LC imma be honest i dont think ur reads are like well founded in good faith - like why is Gavial scum here?

like i say this as I dont want to have to defend you from people eager to lim a slot that is playing poorly and want to in fact help you not play poorly here and cooperate with town and good faith hunt rather than push people who are >rand town lol

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:10 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:07 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:02 am spf what is ur read on me
gth? town. i don't really know yet, though. it's too early
I think it’s fairly easy to get a pretty strong read there even at this point in thread, right? What’s the reason for caution?

caution is because I have fooled her as wolf on d1s very many times lol

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:06 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:28 am when u repeatedly just do whatever u want and refuse to answer for your actions and then say "im gonna do nothing until d3" its like Not good play and does not facilitate a pro-solve environment. like imagine we all did that? how would we play the game?
At this point in the thread Nanook’s given more reads than you have

weird thing to point out but ok. theres a distinct difference from simple statements vs more depthy analysis.

this game has 1 more miselim than i am normally used to playing with in a 3 scum setup, so I don't mind burning 1 on a policy actually, since i normally do quite fine in 13p 3 scum. and there's no guarantee you flip town if you dont try to alignment tell.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:55 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:55 pm by "tell me" i mean "show me" with actions.
no

i have no issue with voting you if you dont produce any reads in the next 20-30 minutes.

oh great we have 2 nanooks. great.

by "tell me" i mean "show me" with actions.

i see a tonystark looking at this thread @TonyStarkPrime tell me why i shouldn't wagon you rn.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:34 pm 86 mins til eod

this post always comes from scum

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:01 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:50 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:30 pm I'm literally gagging on the irony
its not the same but keep pretending it is.

Im generating content and willing to out analysis. You are just a statements without explanation. You and I are not the same
You're such a superior mafia player, uwu
No, i just dont think your playstyle is particularly valid here. I like to utilize all the time in a day phase so time i cannot have dialoguing about pushing into a solve is time that helps scum. The only reason im entertaining u rn is because id like to at least have some alignment indicative content out for myself here for others to read- mainly my lack of want for unreadable slots which objectively leans pro town.
Just because we are both playing ego playstyles doesn't mean it's the same, which i dont like that you are implying.
Like somehow you are playing the same as LC but also the same as me.. no thats not logical thats just drawing similarities and calling it all the same.
I didn't say I'm playing the same as lc

I don't think I'm playing the same as anyone, im just needling you

If it bothers you or you find engaging with my posts detrimental to your solving, there's an easy solution, and it's to stop responding

nah its LC whos claiming that which is frustrating af bc i think they are town just ... horribly misguided.

im home and ready to rumble >:)

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