
Good game team! Specially @Chelsea thanks for carrying and giving me a free win.
For meta: i only let players who i consider better than me bus me.

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To you two, i will act like the most lovable person on the planet to spite you. I dont have to prove my towniness to you by making your gaming experience a living hell on purpose.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:22 pmExactly this. I'm pretty sure Guilo is one of the people I can read with the most confidence and to me it felt almost transparent how obvious the change is but I'd like to think Guilo knew this so I was giving him BOTD because I don't like it when it feels that night and day.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:20 pmOK so I kinda felt the same because when I made fun of him I expected more of his uncontrollable reaction and I got was a meow and not a roar like when he's town.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:19 pmGulio's entire come at me post was horrible. I'm very confident in my ability to read him and we're both aware of this fact. So it made me pause when he knows voting or calling me out will make me look at him (even though I already have been.)
He's also too reserved IMO.
Do I feel like fighting Gulio D1 with 4 hours left on the day expecting people to listen? No. :^) So my vote will stay on Cape
He's a lot more emotionally volatile as town and way more calmer as mafia.
So you think she is WIFOMing us with that post, is that it?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:26 pmSure, why not?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:12 pmAre you promoting a policy lynch here or were you being sarcastic and you actually scum read her? If the later, would scum openly admit that they are waiting to latch onto a wolf read?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:55 pm[VOTE: valentine] aubergine
Town who are waiting for the perfect solve, or the right moment, are POE
Scum can't actually hunt...they already know the answer. Openly admitting to latching onto SRs is an easy way to not hunt, and hide in plain sight so to speak
Are you promoting a policy lynch here or were you being sarcastic and you actually scum read her? If the later, would scum openly admit that they are waiting to latch onto a wolf read?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:55 pm[VOTE: valentine] aubergine
Town who are waiting for the perfect solve, or the right moment, are POE
And I stand corrected, I do agree on that bad take from Falcon.Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:31 pm Falcon -> Sr based on the fact that he is voteing someone who he himself prefaces as town lol.
So you scum read us individually? Ok I can get behind that thought process.Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:31 pm Guillotine -> I dont make my reads on day 1 taking into account who is scum with who since i just have way too many people i sr or scumlean rn to efficiently do so, i just place everyone i read and didnt like and ill start considering who is w with w after someone flips
This is kinda bordering on being too scummy to actually be scum but since i could go around my head in circles eternally deciding which it is imma just sr again.
Hmm he is always drunk, i used to believe in drunk scum tells until they started flipping town.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:03 pmyw. It's still a weird idea to do as a wolf though so AI? (like playing drunk can be fun if you are really bad tonally and stressed while wolfing - I don't think it's DZs case anyway -, but faking drunk?)
what do you think?
DeeZees wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:26 pm So im mega drunk posting and i think nutellas treatment of me is most v
Shes kinda just tolersting me without forcing a read on me or trying to force content. I think theres liggt sussing but shes not trying to showcase belief etc
I particulrly compare to last game where it was obv she did
Mac has told me she has more range than expected so obvs not locked in
But my first town read
Is this real or sarcasm?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:29 am I'm so glad we're still treating mechanically verifiable roleclaims as in and of themselves AI.
Wha?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:30 amit goes it goes it goes it goesGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:29 am I can compromise in a wagon of any of these people
Petit, Manny, Valentine, Chelsea and Deezee (Deezee being my weakest scum read).
Creature has not moved my needle significantly to either side, i find it weird that he soft a self confirmable role with only the pressure of 4 people but i dont have the balls to kill someone who might be an inno child or desperado so i will not go there today.
If he is chopped today and flips scum the four people that were voting him at the time he hurry-softed his role look good, because they contributed to the pressure that lead to that claim which in most cases i associate with scum freaking the hell out when seen their wagon is getting stagnant and the wagon is held steady by people's pressure he considers the strongest.
If he gets chopped today and flips scum i get no credit though.
Let me introduce myself. Im Guillo, the king of bastards, the sociopath of mafia, the fearless, the suicidal maniac, the unburnt, the world's best day 1 scum hunter, the best wolf to have ever lived, the hero town does not deserve but the one they need, the FPS prince, Macdougall's God Reader, TripleHaven's god reader, Alexa's god reader, creator of Deck Mafia, Liberator of slaves, the Omnipotent, the Mafia God.Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:14 am
Guillotine -> p#181 how would someone being drunk or not be TMI unless you think dz went on scum chat just to say he is *not* drunk which would be weird. Sr. p#259 wdym how dz had said at that point he is drunk in thread. p#461 this argument kinda flops on the basis that... playstyle for scum differs heavily depending on the player like yea there is a standard for what is considered scummy but saying it all reduces to two ways to play on rvs is kinda an extreme made just to fit the argument, atleast thats the vibe i get. Now having said that idk if a scum would double down on the argument here but since idk your meta imma just keep my sr. p#500 lmao tempted to tr this based on being funny but ill pass.
This readlist is crap. Notices the same think about Petit drunk reading DZ, sus me for believing they could be w/w for it and places me in the scum leans with both of them. Like wtf?Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:14 am 22 out of 24ish pages read its 5 am for me im alr sleepy ill read the last 2 and all the extra ones that are gonna pop up while i sleep meanwhile here is my reads post from page 1 to 22
Sabi -> p#15 sr, only a scum would rickroll /hj. p#401 idk if the only solid tr sabi has being one of my sr is allignment indicative for sabi or skill issue indicative for me. Maybe both. p#495 lmfao sassy as fuck idk if allignment indicative but kinda based nonetheless. p#920 kinda offtopic but i would only recruit for games i wanna play myself so i get why other people would think the same.
Dz -> p#29 funny therefore townie. Idk i maybe take back the town read last time i played with him he was obvtowning and here i dont really get that vibe so maybe scumlean.
Cape -> p#45 NiA but good thoughts. p#228 wouldnt doing this cause him *not to* do the scummy thing and spewing the other way therefore nullifying the read?. p#284 this is gonna be another game of tr'ing cape is it. p#427 it is. p#674 cape stop being townie for 2 pages challenge (impossible) mindmeld on a bunch of stuff the bit i disagree with is not enough to make me wanna not tr this. Would reconsider if falcon does indeed flip scum or Le petit does.
Schiavetto -> p#79 sr cuz demands me to do work, too lazy. p#334 lmfao i kinda wanna tr cuz mindmeld. p#343 weird post to make idk if allignment indicative. p#350 this feels kinda forced to me. p#697 sr maybe. p#703 Chelsea not scum with Schia but then again im tr one and sr the other so duh.
Valentine -> It really is gonna cost all my willpower to not sr this just based on gimmick ngl. Which is bad since i usually sr people that complain about gimmicks. p#188 tr. She asked for it why not. p#361 agree with the first half of the post but could NaI statement. p#369 second statement i agree to in a row that could be NaI two together makes a tr... right?. p#439 this feels like way too scummy to actually be scum circleback to tr. p#508 this string of posts kinda screams newbie town but idk how much experience valentine has. p#528 absolutely based. p#558 gonna kind simp for cape here saying his approach being gentle matches perfectly what i felt his approach to me was on the mash we just finished and he was town there
LordQuas -> p#115 townie cuz agree kinda. / p#154 being hedgy is not necessarily a scum thing to do atleast not at the start of day 1. / p#554 sr cuz noticed chelsea to not get sr'd himself (half-jokeing). p#564 can tr this cuz he mindmelded with the person i mindmelded before, is that a thing even mindmeldception.
Le Petit -> p#124 why would dz lie about being drunk? not like he would be read townier or scummier for it.
Nut -> p#170 tr maybe. p#740 cape/nut not w/w together. Also the conclusion that he is 3p is curious idk if scum nut goes for that but unless im missremembering was it cape that mentioned smth about being three factions earlier? could have merit.
Guillotine -> p#181 how would someone being drunk or not be TMI unless you think dz went on scum chat just to say he is *not* drunk which would be weird. Sr. p#259 wdym how dz had said at that point he is drunk in thread. p#461 this argument kinda flops on the basis that... playstyle for scum differs heavily depending on the player like yea there is a standard for what is considered scummy but saying it all reduces to two ways to play on rvs is kinda an extreme made just to fit the argument, atleast thats the vibe i get. Now having said that idk if a scum would double down on the argument here but since idk your meta imma just keep my sr. p#500 lmao tempted to tr this based on being funny but ill pass.
Hollowkat -> p#196 tr maybe. p#435 funny thereforw townie p#505 tr
Creature -> p#250 based and agree kinda. p#304 funny therefore town. p#305 tr and kinda agree on hindsight on his read on the post below on nut. p#312 not hard to accomplish, i kinda sr schia based on vibes. p#880 physically unable to not tr this lack of given fucks.
Falcon -> p#286 sr based on vibes i feel like if i was town id care about smth else other than dz being drunk or not. p#383 sr based on kinda trying to discredit his reads over grammar altho this might be a reach. p#447 sr and prolly not w/w with sabi so ig im tr'ing Sabi until falcon flips or i drop my sr on him whichever happens first. p#707 is it wrong i wanna sr him just cuz he sr's my towniecore? probably is, still gonna do it.
Inaword -> p#289 tr kinda. too lazy to p# all the posts from him since too many i like him, he should be town ill p# if i find smth particularly townie or smth i wanna ask. p#793 you cant stop me from tr'ing you based on volume, i refuse to be stopped.
risiinq -> p#295 and p#291 mindmeld therefore tr. p#317 tr
Chelsea -> p#515 tr maybe. p#520 evolve maybe into probably. p#572 evolve probably into most likely. p#574 fuck am i that predictable? well might aswell simp if i am.
DaughterOfOmega -> p#657 this is like the fourth or fifth joke post but i have not found any of them funny so far if funny = town then unfunny = scum so sr.
Floyd -> p#671 townlean
Pixxy -> p#821 lack of reasoning for the reads makes it harder to sr or tr it but based on the amount of stuff i disagree with on here imma just do a lazy scum lean and be done with it .
IBA -> p#845 Probably NaI but i dont like people not likeing a lot of posts so imma scumlean. p#988 NaI and Offtopic but i kinda agree with my past self, mafias are for fun if i deem someone to be annoying enough to damage the enjoyment i get out of the game i will ignore them and let someone else bother solving them.
Collins -> Idk what consensus is here on 3p's i usually leave them alone if they arent a direct threat to town and so far he doesnt seem to be one, i wouldnt be exactly opposed to lynching him but i would also prefer to lynch people based on thinking they are scum than going for him.
Windward -> trying to find a decent post challenge (impossible) sr or lazy town either case idc if he gets shot or wagoned.
Towniecore
Valentine
Cape
Creature
Chelsea
Town
Inaword
risiinq
LordQuas
Sabi
Town-lean
Hollowkat
Floyd
3P
Collins
Scum-lean
Dz
Le Petit
Guillotine
Pixxy
IBA
Nut
Windward
Scum
Schiavetto
Falcon
DaughterOfOmega
Am i?Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:54 amI said new player to the site card. As someone who played on 7 new sites in the last 3 months I know how it feels D1 so I'm giving them space.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:49 amIf im right about a team of petit/deezee im a fucking GOAT.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:41 amGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:27 amWhy do you scum read DeeZee again?Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:14 amWhat progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.
I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:38 amOK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.
Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.
He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.
His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.
Lack of engaging with others.
Upob checking your ISO, i noticed we had similar views with regards on Valentine. You mentioned that she is playing the new player card which is the impression i got from one of her reads and i asked how long she's been playing and she said she;s been playing for a while, so, no new player card for her.
Im keeping my eye on her
Also if we are aligned, why are you still voting me.
I feel like you didnt really answer my question because your post was very specific at the end. “I doubt anyone fits the bill of being so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts”. Lke what gives you that impression if you havent had the time to arrive at that impression.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:24 amNo, but the problem with a lot of mafia players is they put town and mafia in a black and white box when it's really Gray. Like some people think only town do X and mafia do Y and whenever I see that (and partly because I am a victim to this but it's not the main issue) it makes me roll my eyes. I stand by the fact awkwardness is nearly always NAI, you don't need meta on someone to figure that out. Plus lol meta but that's another conversation.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:05 pmHow do you figure? There are over 20+ players here. Do you have meta on all of them to determine that?Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
It is my reason to think you are townCape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:16 amI'm not sure this is an AI reason to think I am townGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:14 pmBecause that is an accurate assessment from someone who has seen me wolfing and towning, wolfing specially as I'm a terrifying wolf player. There is no agenda, no attempt at pocketing me either, there is a healthy amount of paranoia, there is respect for what I'm capable of and he is willing to let me breath and produce results.IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:00 pmWhy's that your takeaway here?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:02 pmAlright Cape90 is town.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:20 amSo because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.Valentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:09 amthis post feels weird in retrospectCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:35 am I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly
[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine
For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.
like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?
and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.
You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them
If im right about a team of petit/deezee im a fucking GOAT.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:41 amGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:27 amWhy do you scum read DeeZee again?Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:14 amWhat progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.
I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:38 amOK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.
Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.
He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.
His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.
Lack of engaging with others.
I hated you mocking me but this interaction looks good. Sabi/Cape90 are unaligned based on this interaction.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:37 amSo why bring up daughter then? What was the point of this whole comparison?Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:18 am"Progression" it's more DaughterOfOmega has had reads versus WWA. And I know WWA is a good player and their posts so far just existSabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:14 amWhat progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.
I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.
I really don't like this post from guy cape.
Why do you scum read DeeZee again?Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:14 amWhat progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.
I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.
??? How do you figure there is a godfather?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:53 pmcorrect, we're role madness this game. and a godfathernutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:50 pmI mean, everyone has a pr no?IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:48 pmYou don't have anywhere close to a wagon on you and there's a full day left
Jesus Christ
You realize that if you're town you're probably dying tonight now, right
It was not a compliment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:50 pmAwe shucks, yer making me blush
Also, there is an alligator snapper in my pocket, so be cautious n' such
These are the LHFs then.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:11 pmI thought it was uncharacteristic for you to push pyxxy and falcon out of all players here.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:07 pmIs it just weird? Or is it scummy? If it's weird, but not scummy, then what makes it notable enough to feel off, but not off enough to be mafia-indicative for you?
Why would you soft a confirmable role on day 1, with just four people on you and being so far from EoD?
Because that is an accurate assessment from someone who has seen me wolfing and towning, wolfing specially as I'm a terrifying wolf player. There is no agenda, no attempt at pocketing me either, there is a healthy amount of paranoia, there is respect for what I'm capable of and he is willing to let me breath and produce results.IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:00 pmWhy's that your takeaway here?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:02 pmAlright Cape90 is town.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:20 amSo because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.Valentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:09 amthis post feels weird in retrospectCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:35 am I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly
[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine
For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.
like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?
and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.
You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them
Falcon is townfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 amInteresting white knighting here.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
Do you have specific examples you've observed in this game, or is this just a blanket warning?
How do you figure? There are over 20+ players here. Do you have meta on all of them to determine that?Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
Alright Cape90 is town.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:20 amSo because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.Valentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:09 amthis post feels weird in retrospectCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:35 am I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly
[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine
For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.
like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?
and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.
You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them