The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:34 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:16 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.
My knee jerk reaction is that it's against his town meta, which is the opposite (extreme paranoia and blind tunnelling of people he suspects). But I think he might actually be more likely to make a switch like that as town instead of mafia. That is, I feel like the big reversal into being overly-trusting of people or overly-willing to clear them is more likely to be motivated by "hey the blind paranoia thing didn't work the last few games, maybe I should try something new" instead of "surely this will fool everyone into thinking I am town".
Disagree
what exactly do you disagree on?
I don't think you have the inclination to make such an intentional change in approaches to reads as Alison is suggesting

She actually hit it spot on.

It was like how can someone I barely play with know the current me so well?

I play a champions game different than regular games.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:42 pm Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

what is interesting about it?

you know scum loves the word "interesting" a lot right?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:34 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:16 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.
My knee jerk reaction is that it's against his town meta, which is the opposite (extreme paranoia and blind tunnelling of people he suspects). But I think he might actually be more likely to make a switch like that as town instead of mafia. That is, I feel like the big reversal into being overly-trusting of people or overly-willing to clear them is more likely to be motivated by "hey the blind paranoia thing didn't work the last few games, maybe I should try something new" instead of "surely this will fool everyone into thinking I am town".
Disagree

what exactly do you disagree on?

Town

Porscha
Mchelle
Cape
Seanzie
Lemon
Caitlin
Sabi

Undecided

Alison
Nutella
Nanook
Abigail

Scum

Leeri or whatever
Falcon
Sig
Rondo (total feels read)

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:46 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:34 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:27 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:24 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:23 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:13 pm

I feel attacked
I don't think Sig meant it as an attack to you and you do also consider that town cored ppl may be town anyway
The concept of how I play is that I shouldn't reconsider until later though so I am ostensibly exactly what he said here
I guess

I was just trying to bring up that you're better than you and others that see you as such think
I think Abigail has a great deal of self awareness and accurately assesses her skill level.
No, she undervalues herself lots

Maybe she posts now & then that she thinks she's great and stuff but in reality she doesn't see herself like that at all
I'm pretty sure Alison thinks I'm not great

Stop with these type of comments please. They usually lead to toxicity, let us not.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:42 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:39 pm So why would she hint at it here?
Because it was a genuine thought. She genuinely did intend to remind Caitlin the game started, for completely innocuous reasons. That thought slipped out because it was an honest thought with no malicious intent. It's no different from saying "alright guys I'm going out for dinner, see you all later" in her mind. Scum say things like that all the time, it's just a part of normal posting/interaction. The slip was that she didn't realize the thought wouldn't materialize if she was town, and even if it did, she would react to me calling it out far less weirdly.

For example I think that town Abigail who actually didn't know it was a rule would just say "oh my bad I didn't know it was a rule" instead of saying my post is stupid and not a big deal. It's a very defensive reaction.

Ok, i understand why it could be a slip.

Neon is the rebellious type though, it is not strange for her to call a rule dumb and double down on it.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:37 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:33 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:20 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:14 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:42 am Which as far as I'm aware breaches zero rules and is a polite reminder
It breaches rules because it could influence the game, eg. if Caitlin is a mafia member planning on slanking for the first part of the game and then going "hey guys sorry I didn't realize the game started ", which is a legitimate wolf strategy, then you privately telling her that the game has started would influence that strategy.

I think you know this given your long term experience with forum mafia and lack of infractions for OGI (ie. you're not robyn), ergo I think you knew from the start that reminding Caitlin the game had started was disallowed by the rules, unless you were both mafia. Ergo I think that you are mafia and slipped by not realizing that your (honest) plan to remind Caitlin the game started was something that only a mafia would think of and not a town.
I legitimately think everything here you said is stupid that it's not that big a deal and that if this is truly a big deal I should be banned on multiple sites cause I've reminded friends on numerous occasions

Oops
^ caught for the wrong reasons scum
This push is scummy from you.

Do you really belueve scum wouldnt reming each other in scum chat instead of here?
My push is based on the notion that they are reminding each other in scum chat.

So why would she hint at it here?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:33 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:20 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:14 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:42 am Which as far as I'm aware breaches zero rules and is a polite reminder
It breaches rules because it could influence the game, eg. if Caitlin is a mafia member planning on slanking for the first part of the game and then going "hey guys sorry I didn't realize the game started ", which is a legitimate wolf strategy, then you privately telling her that the game has started would influence that strategy.

I think you know this given your long term experience with forum mafia and lack of infractions for OGI (ie. you're not robyn), ergo I think you knew from the start that reminding Caitlin the game had started was disallowed by the rules, unless you were both mafia. Ergo I think that you are mafia and slipped by not realizing that your (honest) plan to remind Caitlin the game started was something that only a mafia would think of and not a town.
I legitimately think everything here you said is stupid that it's not that big a deal and that if this is truly a big deal I should be banned on multiple sites cause I've reminded friends on numerous occasions

Oops
^ caught for the wrong reasons scum

This push is scummy from you.

Do you really belueve scum wouldnt reming each other in scum chat instead of here?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:20 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:14 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:42 am Which as far as I'm aware breaches zero rules and is a polite reminder
It breaches rules because it could influence the game, eg. if Caitlin is a mafia member planning on slanking for the first part of the game and then going "hey guys sorry I didn't realize the game started ", which is a legitimate wolf strategy, then you privately telling her that the game has started would influence that strategy.

I think you know this given your long term experience with forum mafia and lack of infractions for OGI (ie. you're not robyn), ergo I think you knew from the start that reminding Caitlin the game had started was disallowed by the rules, unless you were both mafia. Ergo I think that you are mafia and slipped by not realizing that your (honest) plan to remind Caitlin the game started was something that only a mafia would think of and not a town.
I legitimately think everything here you said is stupid that it's not that big a deal and that if this is truly a big deal I should be banned on multiple sites cause I've reminded friends on numerous occasions

Oops

Oh shit, so it is true?

I dont think a wolf would say they are gonna remind their teammate the game started here publicly instead of reminding them in scum chat, but it is still bad!
That is called unauthorized game related private communications and it is illegal everywhere!

ok, im leaving. See you on day 1, unless of course i die.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.

Watch me build a towncore faster than scum can destroy it.

Tremble in fear

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:52 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:27 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:26 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:04 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:16 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:43 pm

I just ignore it, it's white noise as far as I'm concerned. Not game-related and not alignment-indicative. Lots of people come in and say they hate mafia, lots of people come in and say they love mafia. I don't really give a shit, but I think making people feel even less welcome in the game just makes it worse tbh.
Sounds like they made themselves feel less welcome and we're just agreeing with them.

I think you are saying this performatively to try to pocket Sabi tbh considering that you are going out of your way to whiteknight someone who doesn't even want to be here.

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

(I am aware it's night, I'm using vote tags to indicate who I'd be voting if it was day)
I don't give a flying fuck what Sabi thinks of me if they're not reading the game. Point was that there's no need to be unnecessarily rude to people, just ignore it and move on. And I think it's slimy that you're turning this into a push on me.
You are oddly aggro in this game, what happened?
It's unrelated to the game but I will probably be in an aggro mood the entire time. If you don't want to deal with that, then I'm sorry. I'm still trying to play the game but I'm busy with a lot of irl stuff right now.
I dont have a problem with aggressive, i just think it may be alignment indicative for you even though you say it is not.

Time will tell
If you want to read my recent games you're more than welcome to

No thanks. I only have time to read this one and this is my last game anyway, so i dont really care that much.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:09 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:06 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:56 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:44 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 pm

Nah, it was cooked up by two out of the three in wolf chat.
Nah, wolf Nanook does not go down the same route as wolf Alison did after seeing me eyeing Alison for it. He'd just stay away from it, i could see Nanook doing it as scum to indirectly support Alison's reaction and maybe pocket her that way.
Not loving your confidence in it at all

Small SL on you
Oh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.

This is not OMGUS

It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.
It isn't the fact you have confidence, moreso that I think confidence isn't fit here
No? Didnt i catch you scum in a game within the first two hours of a game?

I believe i tunneled the crap out of you until you left and were replaced.

Everyone knows here that if there is someone who can develop confident reads early day 1, that is me.
Well yes you did catch me for the wrong reasons

And I already requested replacement before you caught me, there just wasnt a replacement yet

But yes, I know you can make confident reads, and I also know you often are correct, but I think your read here makes no sense and as such shouldnt be getting confidence

Well then we'd have to agree to disagree because i'd believe Alison's push on Sabi could be w/w distancing a lot lot more than Nanook seeing his partner getting heat and he'd try exactly the same thing “Oh! Free getting sus!”, that never happens.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:55 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:41 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
I don't see why they'd need to both agree on doing so or why mafia wouldnt agree on saying the same thing
It's human psychology when they are guilty, they are very self aware of what might look bad for them.

If you are mafia and you are being suspected for something by someone, your partner is not gonna try exactly the same thing and risked getting suspected as well, you'd try something different.
/Shrug

WIFOM exists, Nanook may have not read it, and I'd also say its more of a town indicator for Nanook then it being a non-SvS indicator if your logic does check out

Knowing Nanook, my hypothesis is more probable than yours here, but of course im biased.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:02 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Why do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?
Because i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.

Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.

Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.

I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
I’ve done zero 3P hunting though, seems like you’re trying really hard to find a reason to vote for someone, but not trying really hard to find mafia.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:13 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:47 am 30 participants.

1 ring.

1 winner.

And I drew... number 13... yeah we can work with that.
Soooo 3rd party claim

You are in a 3P hunting mundset

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:16 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:01 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:57 pm Town caitlin never ever entertains sheeping someone whom opposes her reads.

She is more stubborn about them than myself.
Counterpoint 1: I said I would almost consider it, not that I actually would
Counterpoint 2: I have an MU alt, Porcelain Doll, where I do sheep lots since I do actually like sheeping
Well that further strengthens my read, you pretty much are saying that you wouldnt sheep as caitlin, so much, that you had to create an alt to not be associated with sheeping,

If Porcelain Doll was playing here i would put it to rest, but you are not playing as Porcelain Doll, you are playing as caitlin whom does not sheep anyone, and you saying you almost consider it is stating a form of approval for Seanzie;s post while not fully committimg to it, aka pocket.
Counterpoint 3: Counterpoint 1

We are going in circles here, you are not changing my mind and im not going to make you accept that im right.

What is your read on Neon, as far as i remember, you can soul read each other.

And just for the record, im not hunting for multiple mafia, even if there are in this game, tjey are all scum to me.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:12 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Why do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?
Because i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.

Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.

Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.

I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
Yeah, but wouldn't you normally default to thinking two wolfy unpaired players are mafia and 3P, rather than two mafia factions? Seems like quite the assumption to me, maybe I just have a different experience, but I see 3Ps frequently and almost never multiball.

Welcome to syndicate, the place where ive seen most of multiball games in my forum mafia life.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:01 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:57 pm Town caitlin never ever entertains sheeping someone whom opposes her reads.

She is more stubborn about them than myself.
Counterpoint 1: I said I would almost consider it, not that I actually would
Counterpoint 2: I have an MU alt, Porcelain Doll, where I do sheep lots since I do actually like sheeping

Well that further strengthens my read, you pretty much are saying that you wouldnt sheep as caitlin, so much, that you had to create an alt to not be associated with sheeping,

If Porcelain Doll was playing here i would put it to rest, but you are not playing as Porcelain Doll, you are playing as caitlin whom does not sheep anyone, and you saying you almost consider it is stating a form of approval for Seanzie;s post while not fully committimg to it, aka pocket.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:03 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:56 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:52 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:50 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:47 pm

No.
Yes
...

No.
Yes! It is odd at best and sus at worse for anyone who has played with me several times to push that angle and give me a scum lean.
They aren't really pushing, they made an observation with a scumlean, and you're doing the over-the-top-knee-jerk reaction that I'd expect from town!you, but that I also don't think leads to high probability reads.
I got an extensive list of games that proves that i got high probability reads. It is not just a knee jerk reaction, caitlin is not acting like her usual town self and she will probably tell me post game that all of the reasons i caught her for are all wrong reasons,
Well the one time you caught me it was for TMI'ing the ppl I didn't know town when I... Didn't know 67% of my team

That was clearly for the wrong reasons

How could I have too much information about something incorrect

Be it as it may, it should tell you i got the nose of a canine when it comes to catching scum early day 1, whether it is for wrong reasons or not.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:56 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:44 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
Nah, it was cooked up by two out of the three in wolf chat.
Nah, wolf Nanook does not go down the same route as wolf Alison did after seeing me eyeing Alison for it. He'd just stay away from it, i could see Nanook doing it as scum to indirectly support Alison's reaction and maybe pocket her that way.
Not loving your confidence in it at all

Small SL on you
Oh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.

This is not OMGUS

It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.
It isn't the fact you have confidence, moreso that I think confidence isn't fit here

No? Didnt i catch you scum in a game within the first two hours of a game?

I believe i tunneled the crap out of you until you left and were replaced.

Everyone knows here that if there is someone who can develop confident reads early day 1, that is me.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:57 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:49 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:56 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:57 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:50 am is there a way to just like. post a photo I have saved to my phone without needing a link to insert it
Not that I know of I always upload mine to imgbb
I always post mine in a private Discord Server so I can copy the link from there
Discord no longer allows that, they disable links to images posted outside of discord within 24 hours.
Yikes

Thats annoying

Tell me about it, i usually post my kon image from bleach in my first post, but i dont know any good free image hosting services anymore.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:36 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:24 pm Meh... Guillo is being a bit too agreeable...
I actually wanna townlean him because he's voiced a couple things I've thought but kept to myself. I know his wolfrange is pretty impressive, though. But still.

The one thing that gets me is that multiball comment cause that's definitely not the first thing I'd think of, especially since Guillo made that earlier unpaired read (which ftr I found nothing wrong with) but did not make a comment about multiball then.

I as not thinking about multiball then.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Why do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?

Because i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.

Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.

Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.

I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:27 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:26 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:04 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:16 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:37 pm What about that post says "I'm here for a good time" to you lol

They do this every other game and it sucks quite frankly
I just ignore it, it's white noise as far as I'm concerned. Not game-related and not alignment-indicative. Lots of people come in and say they hate mafia, lots of people come in and say they love mafia. I don't really give a shit, but I think making people feel even less welcome in the game just makes it worse tbh.
Sounds like they made themselves feel less welcome and we're just agreeing with them.

I think you are saying this performatively to try to pocket Sabi tbh considering that you are going out of your way to whiteknight someone who doesn't even want to be here.

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

(I am aware it's night, I'm using vote tags to indicate who I'd be voting if it was day)
I don't give a flying fuck what Sabi thinks of me if they're not reading the game. Point was that there's no need to be unnecessarily rude to people, just ignore it and move on. And I think it's slimy that you're turning this into a push on me.
You are oddly aggro in this game, what happened?
It's unrelated to the game but I will probably be in an aggro mood the entire time. If you don't want to deal with that, then I'm sorry. I'm still trying to play the game but I'm busy with a lot of irl stuff right now.

I dont have a problem with aggressive, i just think it may be alignment indicative for you even though you say it is not.

Time will tell

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:24 pm Meh... Guillo is being a bit too agreeable...

So?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:20 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:15 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:13 pm Scummy pile:
Leetic
Alison
Nutella

Towny pile:
Pyxxy
Wwa
Seanzie
Me wonders why im not in your town pile.
I simply don't trust you because your range is huge

But…

You know what, im gonna take it as a compliment.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:13 pm Scummy pile:
Leetic
Alison
Nutella

Towny pile:
Pyxxy
Wwa
Seanzie

Me wonders why im not in your town pile.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:14 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:48 am
Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:34 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 pm I have a great role
Good to know.
Any clue about alignment?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:25 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:24 pm Also both Scotty and SVS are fond of Smashing the Mod kill hammer. Soooo everyone should follow that info dumping rule
yep, glad I read the OP this time lol
That huge green post? I should read it it, isn't it?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:33 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:18 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 pm I'm still in retirement. I will slank. I still don't enjoy mafia.

This is it.
So did someone force you to sign up for the game at gunpoint or are you just making decisions that hurt both you and the rest of the game for no coherent reason?
I like Alison, sooooo LAMIST
Tell me more about why do you like it and if 'like' means anything alignament related.

Do yoy know what LAMIST is?
I have a slight idea, but I want the answer to my question instead assuming things.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:14 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:05 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:56 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:57 am I've decided not to top post this game... maybe
Great, put a cap on the fluff and only post alignment indicative things.
I'll be honest that one won't happen
Neon, instead of trying to mason with Cait, mason with me.
Porscha should also be mason, and Cape and… I forgot.

Not Michelle, not yet.
Or Nutella, not yet.

We should def not mason Alison, or Leetic or Windward though.
I would mason you though.
And Windward.
Not sure about anyone else.

I like the fact people post reads regardless alignament

This moves the game from fluffimg to solving

You dont teally inowvwhat LAMIST is for real?

Look at me im so town?

When i said I like it, i was beigg sarcastic, it was more like, oooh i like this wolfy post, good way of getting caught.

I would almost mason you, your tone is there, but you making questions you should already know the andwers to makes me doubt.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:13 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:47 am 30 participants.

1 ring.

1 winner.

And I drew... number 13... yeah we can work with that.
Soooo 3rd party claim

Damn, what is going on with this scum team or teams? They are just gifting themselves to us wrapped in gifting paper and beautiful ribbons.

Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:41 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:37 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:39 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:33 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:18 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 pm I'm still in retirement. I will slank. I still don't enjoy mafia.

This is it.
So did someone force you to sign up for the game at gunpoint or are you just making decisions that hurt both you and the rest of the game for no coherent reason?
I like Alison, sooooo LAMIST
Neither Sabi or Alison was being LAMIST there at all?

Moreso 'Look At Me I'm So Hostile'?
Im not judging the message not the delivery. Hostility for Alison is not alignment indicative.
She getting baited by sabi is,
hostility in general is not AI for her, but the type of hostility she is displaying is. She isn't hunting, she's disrupting.

That i can agree with.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:56 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:52 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:50 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:47 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:44 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 am

Not loving your confidence in it at all

Small SL on you
Oh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.

This is not OMGUS

It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.
No.
Yes
...

No.
Yes! It is odd at best and sus at worse for anyone who has played with me several times to push that angle and give me a scum lean.
They aren't really pushing, they made an observation with a scumlean, and you're doing the over-the-top-knee-jerk reaction that I'd expect from town!you, but that I also don't think leads to high probability reads.

I got an extensive list of games that proves that i got high probability reads. It is not just a knee jerk reaction, caitlin is not acting like her usual town self and she will probably tell me post game that all of the reasons i caught her for are all wrong reasons,

Town caitlin never ever entertains sheeping someone whom opposes her reads.

She is more stubborn about them than myself.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:01 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:00 pm I nearly gtg so Ig I'll quickly summarize my thoughts;

Windward, Cape, Alison all town

If I had a vote it'd go to Nutella but I think Sabi, Abbi, Guillo and Michelle have been sus too
no
Damn

I like the way you pointed it out so much that I almost feel inclined to sheep you

Lol this is not town Caitlin.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:52 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:58 am Town:
Caitlin
Guillo
Others

Probably wolf, but not sure:
Falcon

Wolf:
Nanook
Alison
What others?
I don't know, otherwise I would have said.

Then why put it there at all? I thought you did so because you wanted to be asked about it, like question baiting.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:50 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:47 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:44 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 pm

Nah, it was cooked up by two out of the three in wolf chat.
Nah, wolf Nanook does not go down the same route as wolf Alison did after seeing me eyeing Alison for it. He'd just stay away from it, i could see Nanook doing it as scum to indirectly support Alison's reaction and maybe pocket her that way.
Not loving your confidence in it at all

Small SL on you
Oh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.

This is not OMGUS

It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.
No.
Yes
...

No.

Yes! It is odd at best and sus at worse for anyone who has played with me several times to push that angle and give me a scum lean.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:58 am Town:
Caitlin
Guillo
Others

Probably wolf, but not sure:
Falcon

Wolf:
Nanook
Alison

What others?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:47 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:44 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
Nah, it was cooked up by two out of the three in wolf chat.
Nah, wolf Nanook does not go down the same route as wolf Alison did after seeing me eyeing Alison for it. He'd just stay away from it, i could see Nanook doing it as scum to indirectly support Alison's reaction and maybe pocket her that way.
Not loving your confidence in it at all

Small SL on you
Oh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.

This is not OMGUS

It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.
No.

Yes

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:56 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:57 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:50 am is there a way to just like. post a photo I have saved to my phone without needing a link to insert it
Not that I know of I always upload mine to imgbb
I always post mine in a private Discord Server so I can copy the link from there

Discord no longer allows that, they disable links to images posted outside of discord within 24 hours.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:46 am
sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:02 pm Thread is too negative already, someone here is mafia probably, I'll be over here enjoying music (and finishing my socky votes so I can click this poll honestly)
agreed a negative thread makes townie less active which helps mafia
TvS reads are wolfy but yknow I bet this is TvS

This is good though

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:20 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
Ummm are the votes even open yet-

No, and?

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
Nah, it was cooked up by two out of the three in wolf chat.
Nah, wolf Nanook does not go down the same route as wolf Alison did after seeing me eyeing Alison for it. He'd just stay away from it, i could see Nanook doing it as scum to indirectly support Alison's reaction and maybe pocket her that way.
Not loving your confidence in it at all

Small SL on you

Oh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.

This is not OMGUS

It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
I don't see why they'd need to both agree on doing so or why mafia wouldnt agree on saying the same thing

It's human psychology when they are guilty, they are very self aware of what might look bad for them.

If you are mafia and you are being suspected for something by someone, your partner is not gonna try exactly the same thing and risked getting suspected as well, you'd try something different.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:37 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:39 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:33 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:18 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 pm I'm still in retirement. I will slank. I still don't enjoy mafia.

This is it.
So did someone force you to sign up for the game at gunpoint or are you just making decisions that hurt both you and the rest of the game for no coherent reason?
I like Alison, sooooo LAMIST
Neither Sabi or Alison was being LAMIST there at all?

Moreso 'Look At Me I'm So Hostile'?
Im judging the message not the delivery. Hostility for Alison is not alignment indicative.
She getting baited by sabi is,

Correction

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:39 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:33 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:18 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 pm I'm still in retirement. I will slank. I still don't enjoy mafia.

This is it.
So did someone force you to sign up for the game at gunpoint or are you just making decisions that hurt both you and the rest of the game for no coherent reason?
I like Alison, sooooo LAMIST
Neither Sabi or Alison was being LAMIST there at all?

Moreso 'Look At Me I'm So Hostile'?

Im not judging the message not the delivery. Hostility for Alison is not alignment indicative.
She getting baited by sabi is,

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:04 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:16 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:37 pm What about that post says "I'm here for a good time" to you lol

They do this every other game and it sucks quite frankly
I just ignore it, it's white noise as far as I'm concerned. Not game-related and not alignment-indicative. Lots of people come in and say they hate mafia, lots of people come in and say they love mafia. I don't really give a shit, but I think making people feel even less welcome in the game just makes it worse tbh.
Sounds like they made themselves feel less welcome and we're just agreeing with them.

I think you are saying this performatively to try to pocket Sabi tbh considering that you are going out of your way to whiteknight someone who doesn't even want to be here.

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

(I am aware it's night, I'm using vote tags to indicate who I'd be voting if it was day)
I don't give a flying fuck what Sabi thinks of me if they're not reading the game. Point was that there's no need to be unnecessarily rude to people, just ignore it and move on. And I think it's slimy that you're turning this into a push on me.

You are oddly aggro in this game, what happened?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:01 am I was going to wait until D1 before actually using my brain but here's where I'm at from a quick read:

nutella - nutella is just vibing, and we love that
Epi - posts are funny
pyxxy - idk like "one of the cool kids" vibes
falcon - sarcasm on point, tickled my sense of humor
Porscha/Abigail - uwu but chilling, feels like they're having their own little tea party or something
sig - idk, just feels reliable

Windward - awkward feels
Guillo - Guillo feels like they're try-harding, which could swing either way but it clashes with idk the thread ambience a little
Alison - came on strong, not vibing

everyone else is null or I don't remember
no particular order within groupings

Thread ambiance? If you mean im trying my best to get everyone out of RvS mode into let's play seriously mode, then you are not wrong.

If i can avoid reading useless fluff from 30 players, that is what im gonna do.

Dizzy's entrance was underwhelming, to PoE pile they go.
Same for Seanzie.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:05 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:56 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:57 am I've decided not to top post this game... maybe
Great, put a cap on the fluff and only post alignment indicative things.
I'll be honest that one won't happen

Neon, instead of trying to mason with Cait, mason with me.
Porscha should also be mason, and Cape and… I forgot.

Not Michelle, not yet.
Or Nutella, not yet.

We should def not mason Alison, or Leetic or Windward though.

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