The Syndicate

I was the counterwagon to two wolves and I shielded them both

Guys I think I messed up somewhere

Alright well it's all binned anyway. Probably don't need to tell you guys to watch LC.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:00 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:21 pm Okay, that's one thing, how about saying "you're scummy for saying that relaxation is towny" in the first place?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:53 pm She scumreads my read because she says a townie shouldn't come up with it. She thinks that because

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:51 pm i literally dont understand a word of what you're saying

scum arent chill or unchill by nature its dependent on player

a desire to avoid attention has nothing to do with what esooa said

esooa voicing that she doesnt understand the setup has nothing to do with anything else
i.e. the read is scummy for these reasons. Read the first.
I think this is an absurd interpretation for you to suggest.

Alison's reason for being suspicious of you here, as I understand it, is that your read on Esooa is the type of thing she believes a mafioso would come up with when trying to provide authentic town reads on a player. That does not mean the read is illogical or necessarily false, just that the reasoning is lacking a certain insight that Alison would expect from a civilian. She can correct me if I am mistaken on any of this.

I have no further comment on the validity of alison's suspicion in this case. It is her own. But I do not think it is remotely fair for you to characterize it the way that you have.

Yeah, obviously it wasn't her main case, but she definitely put that in there. Either she thought that or she just wanted a longer list.

Eh, if I'm wrong about Alison lolme and if I'm right chances are even fewer people will listen than if I'm wrong.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:34 pm Here's a whole bunch of context at once have fun.
[a whole bunch of context]
Nowhere in this conversation does Alison say the thing you are accusing her of saying.

She scumreads my read because she says a townie shouldn't come up with it. She thinks that because

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:51 pm i literally dont understand a word of what you're saying

scum arent chill or unchill by nature its dependent on player

a desire to avoid attention has nothing to do with what esooa said

esooa voicing that she doesnt understand the setup has nothing to do with anything else

i.e. the read is scummy for these reasons. Read the first.

Here's a whole bunch of context at once have fun.

Spoiler: show

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:51 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:49 am
ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:37 am
I have a question for yeah.

What’s your highest TR?
Esooa
walk me through your thought process

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:56 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:51 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:49 am
ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:37 am
I have a question for yeah.

What’s your highest TR?
Esooa
walk me through your thought process
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:58 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:45 pm let's be honest who here understands this game
This is super towny in a way that I might articulate after a good night's sleep but that you guys can probably vaguely see the angle behind.
Anyone not dark blue would have thought hard about the setup, and wouldn't want their thoughts on the setup to come out because it would be a huge slip risk. This post doesn't read as fake because IIRC it was in the middle of some big aimless convo between me/her/Sloon.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:35 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:56 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:51 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:49 am
ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:37 am
I have a question for yeah.

What’s your highest TR?
Esooa
walk me through your thought process
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:58 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:45 pm let's be honest who here understands this game
This is super towny in a way that I might articulate after a good night's sleep but that you guys can probably vaguely see the angle behind.
Anyone not dark blue would have thought hard about the setup, and wouldn't want their thoughts on the setup to come out because it would be a huge slip risk. This post doesn't read as fake because IIRC it was in the middle of some big aimless convo between me/her/Sloon.
"esooa is town because she said she doesn't understand the game and that only makes sense if she's vanilla town" is not a good argument

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:40 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:35 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:56 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:51 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:49 am
ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:37 am
I have a question for yeah.

What’s your highest TR?
Esooa
walk me through your thought process
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:58 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:45 pm let's be honest who here understands this game
This is super towny in a way that I might articulate after a good night's sleep but that you guys can probably vaguely see the angle behind.
Anyone not dark blue would have thought hard about the setup, and wouldn't want their thoughts on the setup to come out because it would be a huge slip risk. This post doesn't read as fake because IIRC it was in the middle of some big aimless convo between me/her/Sloon.
"esooa is town because she said she doesn't understand the game and that only makes sense if she's vanilla town" is not a good argument
People shit bricks when they rand 3p and need to figure out a gameplan immediately. This game is a town and a bunch of 3ps. Therefore.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:43 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:40 pm People shit bricks when they rand 3p and need to figure out a gameplan immediately. This game is a town and a bunch of 3ps. Therefore.
I think literally every 3P I've seen in my time on the syndicate has been omega chill and didn't care at all about the setup or the other players

the 3Ps here are slightly different from the usual 3Ps but regardless I don't think there's any basis for assuming that roll 3P = setup spec, nor do I think that there's any basis for assuming that setup spec = understand the game

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:44 pm [VOTE: foresight] aubergine

your reasoning is unconvincing and reads like the type of logic that would come out of a scum trying to sound insightful

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:49 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:43 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:40 pm People shit bricks when they rand 3p and need to figure out a gameplan immediately. This game is a town and a bunch of 3ps. Therefore.
I think literally every 3P I've seen in my time on the syndicate has been omega chill and didn't care at all about the setup or the other players

the 3Ps here are slightly different from the usual 3Ps but regardless I don't think there's any basis for assuming that roll 3P = setup spec, nor do I think that there's any basis for assuming that setup spec = understand the game
Guess this is a TS thing then because everything that makes scum not omega chill applies ten times more to 3p and every remotely antitown 3p I've ever seen wants as little attention as possible.

Point me to where I said setup spec = understanding the setup. The point was about whether Esooa would actually voice that.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:51 pm i literally dont understand a word of what you're saying

scum arent chill or unchill by nature its dependent on player

a desire to avoid attention has nothing to do with what esooa said

esooa voicing that she doesnt understand the setup has nothing to do with anything else

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:57 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:51 pm scum arent chill or unchill by nature its dependent on player
Okay, I'm willing to actually keep talking about this, but first I'll need input from other people here who are familiar with the site's meta about whether or not it's actually total horseshit to call someone scum for thinking relaxedness is a tell, because this is supposed to be extremely fucking basic and disagreeing is one thing and perfectly fine but then actually making an attack out of someone doing it should be out of the question.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:24 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:19 pm Jack why did you pick one of my only remotely confident townreads?
Bad luck? I mean, my reasoning for suspecting Chop is role fishing from Tony and then what I see as a dishonest push against me.

Why do you townread him?

His opening started with poorly timed shitposting and then it turned into shitposting at any cost necessary. TWTBAW-ish. Like I've said before.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:19 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:01 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:46 pm what happened to your read on foresight?
He reads like he wants to die, and his volatility doesn't make sense to me. I have been reading him as Frustrated Town In A New Environment, and a big part of me still sees it that way, but there is also a part of me that thinks he's mafia who does not believe he is capable of overcoming the early pressure he has faced, and so he has tried to draw as much attention to himself to keep us from identifying any of his partners too easily. I didn't think any of the things he said to/about Alison made sense last night, for instance.
Oh you could've just asked about that. There were two particular moments where I got radio silence from Alison, the one I was talking about at the end was that thing where she said "you're scummy for saying that being relaxed is towny" and I said "did you just say what I think you said". The point got dropped completely with no mention, right in the middle of a big real-time chat between us.
I do not feel like this sort of thing is usually indicative of a mafioso, especially one of Alison's caliber. I think it is more likely the case whenever this happens that the person just is not interested in continuing the conversation in that direction/does not feel it's necessary to do so. Or sometimes people simply forget about things, not that I would think that has happened here.

There is a lot going on, and it seems like conversations with/about you have been multi-faceted. It is difficult to follow when a conversation branches off into five different arguments. It's usually more productive to focus on a few key things. I don't look at Alison skeptically if she dropped an item or two.

That said, I have not read the conversation in question. I'm not sure I'm interested in it at this time.

Okay, that's one thing, how about saying "you're scummy for saying that relaxation is towny" in the first place?

Jack why did you pick one of my only remotely confident townreads?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:13 pm C4 = 4see = Foresight.

It’s kinda dumb but it’s good enough.

You can use "he".

Gfdi Jack. [VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:01 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:46 pm what happened to your read on foresight?
He reads like he wants to die, and his volatility doesn't make sense to me. I have been reading him as Frustrated Town In A New Environment, and a big part of me still sees it that way, but there is also a part of me that thinks he's mafia who does not believe he is capable of overcoming the early pressure he has faced, and so he has tried to draw as much attention to himself to keep us from identifying any of his partners too easily. I didn't think any of the things he said to/about Alison made sense last night, for instance.

Oh you could've just asked about that. There were two particular moments where I got radio silence from Alison, the one I was talking about at the end was that thing where she said "you're scummy for saying that being relaxed is towny" and I said "did you just say what I think you said". The point got dropped completely with no mention, right in the middle of a big real-time chat between us.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:07 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:01 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:59 pm Urist's and KZA's attacks are real. LC's and Alison's are not. Apparently everyone familiar with Dom's meta says this is NAI for him so uh... cool?
Is there anyone we're not talking about as much as we should be?
Virtually everyone, because they've barely shown up. Slanker hunts suck but this thread might need some.
Which names do you include in this list, and which ones intrigue you the most?

Daughter, Wilgy, Marmot, Nook, Poison, Rej, Sawyer, Sd

Disclaimer: haven't read shit in a while

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:01 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:59 pm Urist's and KZA's attacks are real. LC's and Alison's are not. Apparently everyone familiar with Dom's meta says this is NAI for him so uh... cool?
Is there anyone we're not talking about as much as we should be?

Virtually everyone, because they've barely shown up. Slanker hunts suck but this thread might need some.

Urist's and KZA's attacks are real. LC's and Alison's are not. Apparently everyone familiar with Dom's meta says this is NAI for him so uh... cool?

@Jackofhearts2005 I'm still ready when you are.

WAIT there's an opportunity for a three way tie [VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:37 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:37 pm Ping me if you want my vote. First come first serve.
Can I make a reservation? I'm still deciding who to vote for.

Deal.

Ping me if you want my vote. First come first serve.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:15 pm My impression was that he meant in the long run. Like even if he avoids yeet, he'll be yeeted in the future.

Which hasn't been my experience but we can't all be unyeetable.

Yeah basically this.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:10 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:03 pm Heyo. Been putting more energy into another game,that trend will probably continue. Surprised to only get one ping in so many posts.
Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:58 am Catching up between classes
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:56 am Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:46 pm
I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.
How can Sloonei have too much information on me and read me as civ and you think I am #1 baddie according to your read list?
Is your ass jealous of the bullshit you're typing?
I'd explain your fallacy, but instead I'd rather talk about how dead the horse is. I am boned, even in Sloon's most optimistic simulations. You are not trying to scumhunt by burying the burried guy. So what are you trying to do?
Once again, instead of engaging in any sort of dialogue, this guy just says "Go fuck yourself" in nicer language.
I have posted about boknows, spf, you, esooa, and Long Con, but nice try.
I'm honestly happy with a BK or a C4 lynch.

Yes, you have posted about them. The question is about why you posted about me. Also I know I haven't exactly been a role model player but I'm struggling to see how this post is a "go fuck yourself".

Also games with participating players are more fun so there's that.

Anyway, fuck self pres. [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Bo and Jack will give you more than I would at this rate, as either alignment. Oh and Jack's towny so there's that.

Heyo. Been putting more energy into another game,that trend will probably continue. Surprised to only get one ping in so many posts.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:58 am Catching up between classes
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:56 am Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:46 pm
I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.
How can Sloonei have too much information on me and read me as civ and you think I am #1 baddie according to your read list?
Is your ass jealous of the bullshit you're typing?

I'd explain your fallacy, but instead I'd rather talk about how dead the horse is. I am boned, even in Sloon's most optimistic simulations. You are not trying to scumhunt by burying the burried guy. So what are you trying to do?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:50 am Now I'm going to call you out for something else:
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 am I have long given up on making anyone trust me. Even for the people that townread me I am the guy nobody talks about. Call out my defeatism all you want.
If this is so, then what has been the point of your exchange with Alison on this page?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:03 am Would you stop pushing me for my Martin read? Would you possibly regret ignoring those two posts where I called your issue with my Martin read a playstyle issue?
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:09 am Not particularly desperate to convince a wolf anything. I want to know why you ghosted twice when I brought up this particular point twice. I can show it was a valid point that you ignored. I can demonstrate that deliberately ignoring a valid point is scummy, especially when, with some more evidence, I can show it was hypocritical and done in guilty conscience.
You seem to want Alison to see you as honest here. You frame it as a suspicion against her, but the motivation comes across more (to me) as you wanting to be town-read than wanting to catch mafiers.

Dramatic effect duh.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:38 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:28 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:09 am Not particularly desperate to convince a wolf anything. I want to know why you ghosted twice when I brought up this particular point twice. I can show it was a valid point that you ignored. I can demonstrate that deliberately ignoring a valid point is scummy, especially when, with some more evidence, I can show it was hypocritical and done in guilty conscience.
I am not Alison, but this does not feel like a productive use of your time or energy to me. In my experience, desperate pleas like this one (and it does come off as desperate on some level. Not saying that you personally are desperate here) rarely if ever succeed at convincing anyone of anything. If you are town, the best way for you to demonstrate that would be to continue hunting and solving the game alongside other town players.

I would also caution against accusing others of engaging in unfair rhetorical practices too often. That does not build trust.
Hey I'm gonna die, if not now, in a couple days, so if I wanted to play as pro-town as possible I'd sub out in the hopes of getting someone townier in this slot, but that feels like it would be in even worse spirit. I decided early that I wouldn't be able to clear myself at this rate, so I decided clearing other people was the next best thing I could do. Chop and Martin were my choices, and the rest is history.

I have long given up on making anyone trust me. Even for the people that townread me I am the guy nobody talks about. Call out my defeatism all you want.
This is me calling out your defeatism. I don't know what games are like in your experience, but 'round here we don't pre-ordain anyone for anything on Day 1.

Cool you chose the pro-town route.

Yes that was totally a big planned RT from the start of course. None of that was real. Totally.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:28 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:09 am Not particularly desperate to convince a wolf anything. I want to know why you ghosted twice when I brought up this particular point twice. I can show it was a valid point that you ignored. I can demonstrate that deliberately ignoring a valid point is scummy, especially when, with some more evidence, I can show it was hypocritical and done in guilty conscience.
I am not Alison, but this does not feel like a productive use of your time or energy to me. In my experience, desperate pleas like this one (and it does come off as desperate on some level. Not saying that you personally are desperate here) rarely if ever succeed at convincing anyone of anything. If you are town, the best way for you to demonstrate that would be to continue hunting and solving the game alongside other town players.

I would also caution against accusing others of engaging in unfair rhetorical practices too often. That does not build trust.

Hey I'm gonna die, if not now, in a couple days, so if I wanted to play as pro-town as possible I'd sub out in the hopes of getting someone townier in this slot, but that feels like it would be in even worse spirit. I decided early that I wouldn't be able to clear myself at this rate, so I decided clearing other people was the next best thing I could do. Chop and Martin were my choices, and the rest is history.

I have long given up on making anyone trust me. Even for the people that townread me I am the guy nobody talks about. Call out my defeatism all you want.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:12 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:09 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:05 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:03 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:01 am I'm pushing you for a multitude of things so you'd need a lot of town game links
Would you stop pushing me for my Martin read? Would you possibly regret ignoring those two posts where I called your issue with my Martin read a playstyle issue?
I also pushed you for the Dom stuff and the early LAMIST shit. Why are you so desperate to convince someone who isnt voting you that you are town?
Not particularly desperate to convince a wolf anything. I want to know why you ghosted twice when I brought up this particular point twice. I can show it was a valid point that you ignored. I can demonstrate that deliberately ignoring a valid point is scummy, especially when, with some more evidence, I can show it was hypocritical and done in guilty conscience.
i've already addressed that point. It's not a playstyle issue unless your playstyle is making nonsensical and bullshit reads based on flimsy reasoning. So no I didn't ghost anything.

Alright well let's call them that for now. Why couldn't that be a playstyle? Don't shit players exist? I refuse to see a response of "guys he's scum" as an actual response to the point.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:05 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:03 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:01 am I'm pushing you for a multitude of things so you'd need a lot of town game links
Would you stop pushing me for my Martin read? Would you possibly regret ignoring those two posts where I called your issue with my Martin read a playstyle issue?
I also pushed you for the Dom stuff and the early LAMIST shit. Why are you so desperate to convince someone who isnt voting you that you are town?

Not particularly desperate to convince a wolf anything. I want to know why you ghosted twice when I brought up this particular point twice. I can show it was a valid point that you ignored. I can demonstrate that deliberately ignoring a valid point is scummy, especially when, with some more evidence, I can show it was hypocritical and done in guilty conscience.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:01 am I'm pushing you for a multitude of things so you'd need a lot of town game links

Would you stop pushing me for my Martin read? Would you possibly regret ignoring those two posts where I called your issue with my Martin read a playstyle issue?

Alright since you're on riddle me this @Alison

If I, hypothetically, provided a town game of mine where I made this exact kind of read your pushing me for rn, would you put this push in its rightful place in the bin?

Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:46 pm

I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:02 pm how this isn't purely a playstyle conflict.

Still waiting.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:30 pm Wait, you talk about yourself in third person in wolf chat??

Oh shit I slipped the fact that I don't have a wolf chat.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:20 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:37 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.
who in the world is foresight
Alright this is legit Martin doesn't have BTSC fite me
Not likely at all that the wolves discussed your nickname shenanigans in BTSC.

If I'm one, I have. If I'm not one, I'm their target, so they have.

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:03 pm [VOTE: C4] aubergine

I haven't called you Foresight once and neither has half the game

The half that hasn't is slankers.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:03 pm the most obvious motivation is that you have TMI on martin being town and are trying to pocket him with a quick and strong townread

I mean, all the more reason to trust my read, but calling a guy an idiot is a shit way to pocket him.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:59 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:58 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:55 pm "martin doesn't have BTSC because he doesn't know who foresight is" is a bad read since I doubt the scum BTSC is filled with discussion about the etymology of foresight's name
"Foresight" is the single most common nick I've gotten so far. Even if my earlier BTSC theory was pure tinfoil, my name sure came up in BTSC soon after. Way too many ways he would know, way too few ways he wouldn't.
I don't see why you're so certain about this

this is honestly a bullshit read and you're back to being just scum for trying to force narratives like this

Bruh

Well, actually talking to you about this read will probably be aimless, but you should at least show me the scum motivation, and how this isn't purely a playstyle conflict.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:55 pm "martin doesn't have BTSC because he doesn't know who foresight is" is a bad read since I doubt the scum BTSC is filled with discussion about the etymology of foresight's name

"Foresight" is the single most common nick I've gotten so far. Even if my earlier BTSC theory was pure tinfoil, my name sure came up in BTSC soon after. Way too many ways he would know, way too few ways he wouldn't.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:46 pm Can we have an outside interpreter determine which of us understands the setup

As an outside interpreter, I don't understand the setup.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:43 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:37 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.
who in the world is foresight
Alright this is legit Martin doesn't have BTSC fite me
What in the sam hell is BTSC?

Kinda sounds like a sammich
Now this is a step too far
And "Heehokun" wasn't?
What in tarnation is heehokun

Nice to meet you.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:37 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.
who in the world is foresight
Alright this is legit Martin doesn't have BTSC fite me
What in the sam hell is BTSC?

Kinda sounds like a sammich
Now this is a step too far

And "Heehokun" wasn't?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:37 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.
who in the world is foresight
Alright this is legit Martin doesn't have BTSC fite me
What in the sam hell is BTSC?

Kinda sounds like a sammich

Behind The Scenes Communication

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:37 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.
who in the world is foresight
Alright this is legit Martin doesn't have BTSC fite me

Don't make me ping the entire playerlist with this post when you wagon up Martin for some dumb reason.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.
who in the world is foresight

Alright this is legit Martin doesn't have BTSC fite me

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:56 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:52 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:37 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:33 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:32 pm spf the thread is dead an hour and a half in, this isn't the time to play coy.
there's 26 people here - i'm definitely not concerned about the thread being dead. and i feel like being coy right now :P
The fact should make you even more concerned. We have 26 slots to sort, chop chop.
You may be feeling a bit of extra urgency if these phases are shorter than you're used to. This is a relatively slow start, but I'm not concerned about the pace. It's the weekend, we have four active games on this site right now, lots of people just don't seem to be here right now. They'll show up.
I couldn't care less about the people that aren't here. Someone is here and is actively choosing to keep the game slow.
i would argue that my choice to not immediately share my two early townleans is provoking more conversation than it would if i had chosen to share them immediately

i just dont feel a sense of urgency about this game, in all honesty. the majority of people not posting on a sunday does not concern me - there's still a lot of time
Okay fine it's not scummy anymore but it's still annoying af. The discussion it's provoking is one guy saying "spf bad". That's it.

Found it @staypositivefriend

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:46 pm cards on the table: i'm worried about foresight's defense of me being TMI

he seemed actively suspicious, if not enraged about the fact that i was refusing to out my reads in the early game

and even though a lot of the pressure i've faced today has revolved around that EXACT dynamic, foresight has written it off as "nothing" and downplayed the suspicion on me as being dumb

and like, it is dumb. but i don't know if foresight would organically think that given the reaction that he showed to my posts at the time - i do feel like it lacks a bit of internal consistency

I'm pretty sure you can find the exact moment my read switched if you ISO me. Dig that up if I don't first, lmk what you think when that happens.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:30 pm also to be clear counting BK as a pelt preflip is the towniest thing that foresight has done this game because I don't buy that it's a TMI-ed scumslip on his own buddy and it seems more like the kind of unselfconscious overconfident thing that town does when they're sure it's a hit.

Have I really been that bad

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