The Syndicate

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:23 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:22 pm

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:21 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:04 pm @Cream&Cannoli Enterprises

What are your reads currently?

Sorta off the top of my head

Lime Coke, Gavial, LinearPoint, NAA

nutella

DrWigly

TonyStarkPrime, NANOOK

falcon, Urist

Srceenplay, fingersplints

0 posters
MacDougall, Paopan

I agree on Falcon and fingersplints

Wait why am I so high?

You, LP and Wilgy need to form a town pact with Cream.
You will win trust me.
Falcon is probably town, I’d basically suggest letting them stay alive for awhile until both Urist and Srceenplay are dealt with.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:22 pm

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:21 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:04 pm @Cream&Cannoli Enterprises

What are your reads currently?

Sorta off the top of my head

Lime Coke, Gavial, LinearPoint, NAA

nutella

DrWigly

TonyStarkPrime, NANOOK

falcon, Urist

Srceenplay, fingersplints

0 posters
MacDougall, Paopan

I agree on Falcon and fingersplints

^^^^^^^^
This is why we yeet NAA he basically scum reads his town reads purposely.

NAA, Urist and Srceenplay can absolutely be a team.
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I want you to remember this especially!

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:19 pm [VOTE: Urist] aubergine

Unless we can get a different name then we're forced to go somewhere else.

You know that NAA is anti town.
Please vote him!

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:20 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:19 pm We don’t vote Urist or Srceenplay even though their both probably scum.
We vote NAA that is either scum or town that you just know is gonna give both of them a big hug and hurt anyone who touches those mafia.

why not just chop urist or srceen if you're more sure they are mafia

Because NAA isn’t gonna let that happen.
He enjoys helping scum.

I’ll protect Cream tonight to force mafia to kill me so Cream can carry tomorrow

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:18 pm oh

yeah that does fit for doctor i guess lol

Or tracker

I’m the only PR.
Doc doesn’t come with another.
I slightly blame you for this, so take one for the team and let’s eliminate you today.

We don’t vote Urist or Srceenplay even though their both probably scum.
We vote NAA that is either scum or town that you just know is gonna give both of them a big hug and hurt anyone who touches those mafia.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:16 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:14 pm Tbh Not much time left so I guess I’m left with no choice.
I claim towns only PR in the game, kinda blame NAA for this tbh.




Everyone remember that no matter what NAA says, if he’s mafia his partners are exactly Urist and Srceenplay.
If Urist is Scum, Paopan can never be scum (/his replacement)
At least one of Urist/Srceenplay is scum but probably both are


Everyone listen and sheep Cream, I don’t directly TR them but if they are town they WILL sweep the mafia and remove them.

Lime Coke. linearPoint and Drwilgy are all town, @Cream&Cannoli Enterprises
Don’t forget this!

uh looking at the matrix im p sure its impossible for you to know if youre the only town pr

Look at the 15 player list.
Look at 2-Shot Doctor.
I’m the only PR.

Really sucks I have to claim just to die tonight.
I was hoping I could hit 2 heals off and get some confirmed town come late game.

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:27 pmOh fuck.

^
I said this because I realized I was the only PR and someone town needed alive.
Town needs improved play and to improve this game we need to off NAA today and sheep Cream.

I honestly think he purposely game throws tbh and enjoys it but I can’t tell tbh.

We vote NAA today, he fucks us over anyway regardless of alignment. Like he just fucked me the one player he needed to keep alive.

Tbh Not much time left so I guess I’m left with no choice.
I claim towns only PR in the game, kinda blame NAA for this tbh.




Everyone remember that no matter what NAA says, if he’s mafia his partners are exactly Urist and Srceenplay.
If Urist is Scum, Paopan can never be scum (/his replacement)
At least one of Urist/Srceenplay is scum but probably both are


Everyone listen and sheep Cream, I don’t directly TR them but if they are town they WILL sweep the mafia and remove them.

Lime Coke. linearPoint and Drwilgy are all town, @Cream&Cannoli Enterprises
Don’t forget this!

Then he responds with a more “I think your good” kinda thing.
Anyway, I GTG back to work.
I’m hoping people realize what’s up.
@falcon45ca
Also if you sir Unvote me I’ll have you know only scum is voting me. (NAA isn’t a player to me so I don’t count him)

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:21 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:20 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:17 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:58 pm [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

... you know you just hammered her right

That’s a horrible attempt at a reaction test when the poll is very obvious to observe.

oh well i tried

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:22 pm i am also ACUTELY aware of the fact that there are no hammers this game.

I still think Urist is scum based on his post that attempted to discredit me but what he said wasn’t even true lol and he showed no indication he scum read me before hand.

I love how only me and Wilgy, LP, (maybe even Nanook) are the only players actually trying to get someone and push places in a better direction.
Makes me think Nanook is town I just hope @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME follows and believes in my word this game. He’d make my day if he did.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:19 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:10 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:24 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:08 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:56 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:50 am I'm taking back my townread of srceenplay just because of that "is this scum theater" line. Doesn't feel at all like he's trying to solve and figure them out he's just calling them both mafia.

Thats what you do when you figure it out.

No, you didn't figure it out.

I know a way to find out.

did you really just do the howling emoji to your own post??

Ima pull a Srceenplay.
“Scum Theatre”.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:17 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:58 pm [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

... you know you just hammered her right

That’s a horrible attempt at a reaction test when the poll is very obvious to observe.

Yeah Srceenplay and Urist are most likely scum.
NAA needs to die before late game because he enjoy’s gamethrowing as town.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:50 am I'm taking back my townread of srceenplay just because of that "is this scum theater" line. Doesn't feel at all like he's trying to solve and figure them out he's just calling them both mafia.

Town: LC, LP and Wilgy are town. Remember this if I die during the beginning of the game.
Also remember Urist!Mafia clears Paopan due to the fact Urist left them out of the zero posters.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:27 am Wiggly I think is my first confident town read this game.

At this point we might as well say everyone does.

I GTG start working.
@nutella
Vote Nanook or Urist.
They are voting town with you.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:24 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:13 am @nutella
If your town, please move your vote to one of the players voting you.
One is probably mafia.

Nobody is voting for nutella
Also ty for spewing nanook town

I meant voting with you.
How did I spew him town when I’m town lmao.

Oh and Cream is a mafia god so I’ll look more into them as the game progresses.

Town Reads:
Wilgy
LP

Town Leaning:
LC (Depending on next actions.)
Falcon (Voting Urist.)

Can be scum but also town that town reads scum:
Nanook

Scum Reads:
Urist
Screenplay


NAA - HE’S IN A WHOLE NOTHER FUCKING TIER LIST!

@nutella
If your town, please move your vote to one of the players voting you.
One is probably mafia.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:11 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:10 am If no new wagons form, mafia probably make it far this game if not win, we need something to happen and who wants to be that someone to do that something?

How about this
[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Honestly I’m not oppose to this considering I don’t think he’s ever gonna scum read any of screenplay, Urist or NAA.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:09 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:08 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:07 am Weird ass transition between RVS and day 1 proper this game.

Felt like Gavi and LP accelerated it, which I like in spite of an LP post that rubbed me the wrong way.

Bot of y'all nerds are scum calling Screenplay. Porque?

God damn it man you could have went with it, if Screenplay is scum we would have froze him.

Gavi you ding dong! I hadn't finished responding yet!

Well you didn’t need to stop!
Could have done the ol’ reaction no to reaction yes bet you never seen it coming play.

If no new wagons form, mafia probably make it far this game if not win, we need something to happen and who wants to be that someone to do that something?

Let’s lay off of me and LP and pick on someone who’s actually scum.

Urist, Screenplay, heck I wouldn’t ever say no to an NAA yeet.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:07 am Weird ass transition between RVS and day 1 proper this game.

Felt like Gavi and LP accelerated it, which I like in spite of an LP post that rubbed me the wrong way.

Bot of y'all nerds are scum calling Screenplay. Porque?

God damn it man you could have went with it, if Screenplay is scum we would have froze him.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:53 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:16 am Wanna also point out I found screenplay’s “scum theatre for top wagons” post scummy and it feels like something Urist would also do this game.

You are really trying to get me to you instead of LP?

IDK, depends if you wanna be outed scum or not.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:01 am

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:42 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:07 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:41 am Honestly 24 hours isn't much time to work with for day 1, so I'm more just wanting to to get something going and getting people to do stuff.
TBH I'm not really opposed to lynching myself just because the fact so many people have given reads on me to the point where It's probably advantages just to get connections.
I'm not 100% sure about Gavial, but I'm leaning a more towards it being Mafia, though I want to see a proper response from him about my accusation to really be able to tell.

If this doesn’t fuckin scream town.
Y’all are nuts!


Do me a favour though LP and vote someone for CW because I don’t wanna lose you.

How the hell is “town” OK dying an obvious town play? More like scumy play on emotions.

Are you two both scum distancing?

Screenplay matching my opinion. I like it.

Nice!
Now I can call someone town.

@DrWilgy
Alright we got screen where we want them Wilgy.
Did they fail your reaction test or succeed.
I’m thinking fail but what’s say you?

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:20 am Alright I got a brief time before I go in the morn.

At this point I find it hard to believe the entire Mafia is Town reading me when they can just coast and vote me for a free lynch which guarantees at least one of NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, nutella, and Urist are Mafia.

But even still I do also heavily suspect Srceenplay for that last post.
I don't see how anyone could legitimately believe in a scum v scum D1 thunderdome as being the most likely play Mafia would make. That seems far more like someone just wanted to ensure that after I'm lynched that Gavial just gets tunneled day 2 and anyone else gets ignored. They also aren't voting either of us which is odd for someone proposing that we're both Mafia.

I think the team might be NAA/Urist/Screenplay.

But I suppose I could just be bias on NAA because they are NAA.

Wanna also point out I found screenplay’s “scum theatre for top wagons” post scummy and it feels like something Urist would also do this game.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:04 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:01 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:00 am I am town!



Vanilla that is, pure as the driven snow

Vote Urist with me?
We practically get a confirm town out of it if he flips Scum.

Perhaps.



I've gotta read his ISO and see if I find it scummy. I never vote a player to confirm town another player. I vote who I think could be Maf

I forgot the first post I’ll have to find it again but I know I didn’t like it and got wolf vibes.
Then that one failure discredit/confusion post he gave to me he never clarified it and ignored me asking which one it was which makes me think he just wanted to say it because he’s scum that just wants to throw shit around.

Yeah I didn’t quote it I wrote it, fight me!

“The reasons I am still scum reading you at this point in time are as follows.” - LP @LinearPoint

“As NAA, pointed out you are getting extremely defensive and starting a 3rd wagon rather than really addressing the votes on you aside from saying that you hope I realize you're town and that NAA should be ignored.” - LP
Addressing what votes lol?!
Wilgy meme voted me.
NAA is NAA who voted me lol.
Then you vote me who is definitely town.
What is their to address?
We are both town wagons that mafia enjoy’s seeing floating about.



“You also insist that I can never be Mafia when I really have not done anything this game that I would do differently if I were Mafia and pretty much just ignore the reasons for others voting me. To me this feels like you both know my alignment which would mean you'd have to be Mafia and that you want to try and keep me alive later into the game which can only mean one of two things, either you're extremely confident that I am capable of leading the Town or that you hope that I would side with you in a Lylo scenario.”
- LP

Ok that’s a typical concern I forgot to mention isn’t the case before you brought it up.
No it’s not AI. It’s obvious your town pushing me, thus two town wagons form as top, it ain’t hard to figure out.
I’m keeping you around because I know your town and I’d like to continue playing with you. IDC if you don’t town read me just find someone who is actually scum and vote them today. Later on I should be more obvious town I’ll presume.
The longer I’m alive the more my alignment is obvious and the more that as town which I am, scum gets scared of me.

“You have also been doing things that I have in the past commonly seen Mafia doing. Namely what I pointed out previously with admitting a post to be possibly interrupted as scummy and being very defensive when even a slight accusation occurs.” - LP

Oh yeah I’ve seen it as well but I’m not wolf this game I’m town soooo.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:00 am I am town!



Vanilla that is, pure as the driven snow

Vote Urist with me?
We practically get a confirm town out of it if he flips Scum.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:31 am Hot take: Alison and Mac are using NAA's patented and effective Zero-Post scum strategy to coast through d1. Alison especially seems to admire NAA so it wouldn't surprise me to learn she's adopting his technique.

Thanks for letting me know you ain’t aligned with Paopan.
If yeah flip Wolf ima Lock Town Paopan.
TYVM bud.

Mafia is still a better yeet then a Town though.
So let’s not yeet LP

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:42 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:07 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:41 am Honestly 24 hours isn't much time to work with for day 1, so I'm more just wanting to to get something going and getting people to do stuff.
TBH I'm not really opposed to lynching myself just because the fact so many people have given reads on me to the point where It's probably advantages just to get connections.
I'm not 100% sure about Gavial, but I'm leaning a more towards it being Mafia, though I want to see a proper response from him about my accusation to really be able to tell.

If this doesn’t fuckin scream town.
Y’all are nuts!


Do me a favour though LP and vote someone for CW because I don’t wanna lose you.

How the hell is “town” OK dying an obvious town play? More like scumy play on emotions.

Are you two both scum distancing?

Lol your actually going with scum theatre?
We are both town, please don’t hand this game to scum on a silver plater. I tnx bye.

Anyway, Town is more likely to sacrifice themselves here if they are getting majorly scum read due to the fact in the long run people will probably still be suspicious of them and it could actually help to see the motivation for each players vote and could help narrow down who mafia is.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:04 am

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:00 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:18 am See since your a god tier player I’m not going to town read or scum read you. Or at least not in the same way as others.
Your posts are just too good/Townie I’m going to judge by Gamestate + Re/Actions to decide your alignment.

What I will say though is you definitely are on the right track solving wise.
Let’s try and start and move a wagon that will actually contain scum on it.
Out of your 4 there I wouldn’t oppose to Nutella but as I said before as I’m sure I made it obvious, I wanna see one of NAA/Urist get eliminated today.

Not opposed to nutella right now. There’s not much in regards to her slot that I can point and say, “Aha! You are wolf because of X, Y, Z.” But I think her general passiveness tends to lean more scum than town.

I’m opposed to NAA, purely because I think the how troll he is sort of is indicative of villager-ness. His whole schtick about “I’m not partnered with Person because ….” feels like it’s done in a joking manner, since I doubt he actually plays like that normally. Feel like his play and posts are a little too brazen, which tends to be town indicative. Hedge is if he’s just a troll-ish wolf, and this is entirely within his wolf meta.

Urist… idk. It’s harder. Like, gut wise, I would say wolf. I think his reason for voting LP is weak, but not necessarily scum indicative if he is a weaker town player. It feels like he’s shading a ton of people for really nit picky reasons. Both town and scum can shade and be nit picky, I think what makes me feel not so great about Urist is that I feel like the shading doesn’t really have any concrete conclusions. Like, in #193, he’s shading you for phrasing, but then later on he says that he doesn’t scumread you (which may or may not be a joke). I think he’s withholding a lot of his thought process and if Urist is able to open up more, I think that will more easily help us find him, either as town or scum.

I’ll vote Urist with you and see where the fair winds take us!

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

This is a pressure vote and also a I-want-to-change-the-game-state vote and also a I-don’t-like-LP-wagon vote. Also, don’t feel great about Urist rn

Ehhhh I don't think people are going to go for this.

Well we aren’t going for me and we aren’t going for LP.
If you wanna say this then start actually doing something and start your own god damn wagon.

Or ima start believe you don’t wanna actually save LP.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:22 am More than likely I'm saving LP since I'm more confident in him being town.

There's like no other wagons forming which is concerning.

Yes exactly I’m saving LP too. They are still naive thinking I’m mafia when I’m not but alright.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:04 am I’m going to bed and will be busy for most of tomorrow and so I might not get to post again before day end.
Should I die I recommend copping Gavial if we have one and pushing those inactive day 1 to post reads and if not threaten them with a lynch.

This is a bad game for you.
Sorry.
My suggestion is for next time you find a better player to push that can actually be wolf.

@LinearPoint
Boy.
NAA called me mafia like over 3 Times and you gonna tell me they TR me?!?

Though if he keeps being the NAA he always is and won’t change a damn bit he’ll be the fail to us all and harm the outcome of this game in the long run.


So I’m hoping either he uses the power invested within him to make correct plays, or we use the power within us to remove him for this plain of this Game.

I’m going to bed, goodnight.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:33 am Honestly NAA is kind of right at the moment, you're jumping around from topic to topic replying to each post individually.
You clearly need something to focus on, so I just want to know your exact reasoning for the Urist vote in a somewhat concise statement.
Furthermore what is your read on NAA? I see a lot of heated posts between you, but I want to hear your actual read.

Posts.
Simple as that.
NAA is PL that can go at anytime, he’s irrelevant to my success.

Every game.
Or he’s Townie that Wolf Reads Town.


It’s a bit of both of the 2 this game.
He’s Wolf or Wolfy.
And Wolf Reads Me, which is Town.

NAA either wolf or wolfy