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by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:20 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:15 pm
Gavial wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:52 pm “ 4 of those copies are part of the mafia faction, the other 14 are town.”
This doesn’t indicate anything.

@Dragon D. Luffy
Can for example 2 Spy’s possibly both role mafia.
Like can mafia both have the role of 2.
Yes.
@falcon45ca ;)
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:13 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

If this was my homesite and they were still doing mafia, someone might have said Marmot could be pulling the Jaland.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:13 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Actually I might have told Marmot about Jaland I don’t remember
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:12 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Also about that, Jaland won that game, won a 1v9 or 1v7 I don’t remember.
Anyway he got temporary banned for 3 months because of how insane that Buss is and he also I think 1v1’ed a Moderator that was playing F3.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Game-throwing has to have some intentionality imo. That said, someboday having a read you disagree with or scumreading you when you're town is not game-throwing. That's just how mafia be sometimes. Let’s say I play a game with Jaland. (You don’t know who that is but hang with me here.) Let’s say I ...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:08 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Think I’ll avoid it period but yeah just saying.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:08 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Yeah hmm don’t wanna Angel shoot but if TSP is Mafia Sniper, Falcon outed himself.
I’ll avoid elaborate further RN.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:06 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

@Marmot Don’t you think TSP could get away with that? I think he could tbh and if you are indeed actually wolf that omega bussed you can probably tell him about it and let him know I thought of it for him. Get away with what? Well Marmot you remember what I said about TSP don’t you? You tell me bud...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:06 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Not game throwing but with all this conflictiob there are many players who are wrong.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:05 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:05 pm Though, I suppose being wrong is game throwing, just not intentionally. Many players are currently game throwing.
:clap:
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:05 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role It says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team. Like it doesn't explicitly say that the mafia can't have 2 unique roles, ...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:04 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

@Marmot
Don’t you think TSP could get away with that?
I think he could tbh and if you are indeed actually wolf that omega bussed you can probably tell him about it and let him know I thought of it for him.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:02 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Also have paranoia they with Marmot/TSP but like I feel if one of them are town they die before LYLO so we see.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:01 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Like I really think Falcon is a wolf.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:00 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

If NAA sees the truth he’s the type to see it in his own regard (kinda like me.) so leave him be and let him figure you out Lime.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:59 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

NAA might have gamethrown in the past, but that's not really relevant if someone else is gamethrowing now, just because NAA is the one bringing it up. I mean, there's not much point in engaging LimeCoke seriously on this topic, the game he's referring to (philosophy) I only voted mafia at EOD. And ...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:58 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role It says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team. Like it doesn't explicitly say that the mafia can't have 2 unique roles, ...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 98683

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role It says there are 18 copies total, not 9, so I think that means there technically can be 2 of the same role on the mafia team. Like it doesn't explicitly say that the mafia can't have 2 unique roles, ...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Marmot wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 pm
Gavial wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:54 pm Sad part is though TSP can probably shoot me as Mafia Sniper and get away with it even by revealing that he shot me.
Which is very sad.

Why can he get away with it?
Because I’m Gavial, people probably won’t care if I’m shoot and TSP can just say he wolf read me as the Mafia Sniper.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

“ 4 of those copies are part of the mafia faction, the other 14 are town.” This doesn’t indicate anything. @Dragon D. Luffy Can for example 2 Spy’s possibly both role mafia. Like can mafia both have the role of 2. Generally, you have to PM questions to the host, not ask them in thread. Luffy might ...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:54 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 98683

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

“ 4 of those copies are part of the mafia faction, the other 14 are town.” This doesn’t indicate anything. @Dragon D. Luffy Can for example 2 Spy’s possibly both role mafia. Like can mafia both have the role of 2. Actually, it does...4 copies means that they are all copies. That would heavily imply...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:54 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 98683

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Sad part is though TSP can probably shoot me as Mafia Sniper and get away with it even by revealing that he shot me.
Which is very sad.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:53 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Like I wouldn’t say Mafia Watcher, Medic and Sniper ain’t too far off the table. LOL No man you can’t justify roles that’s wolfy. Everything is randomized, the host didn’t choose what roles the mafia got that would be illegal. Oh Gav....I've only ever played with 1 other player who would contradict...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:52 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 98683

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

“ 4 of those copies are part of the mafia faction, the other 14 are town.”
This doesn’t indicate anything.

@Dragon D. Luffy
Can for example 2 Spy’s possibly both role mafia.
Like can mafia both have the role of 2.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:50 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm 4 copies are Maf, which means there are no duplicate Maf roles...Town has a copy for each Maf role
Where does it say that?
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:50 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Like I wouldn’t say Mafia Watcher, Medic and Sniper ain’t too far off the table.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:49 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

I mean yeah he’s kinda playing anti town with the 1 scum in Roleblocker when it’s very likely both town but like I expect NAA is the type of player to make wrong reads but yet I see other people make em too so it ain’t far off from normal play so I don’t see any game throwing here. Why is the RB a ...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:48 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Or even on me as if TSP is mafia he probably targets me with his sniper since I’m the town variant of him.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:47 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Whoever the other watcher is should be on Lime Coke tonight in my honest opinion.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:46 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

I mean yeah he’s kinda playing anti town with the 1 scum in Roleblocker when it’s very likely both town but like I expect NAA is the type of player to make wrong reads but yet I see other people make em too so it ain’t far off from normal play so I don’t see any game throwing here. Why is the RB a ...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:45 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers? And you think they're both town? Yes absolutely. Roles are not AI. So you do not believe that there are copy roles...1 for Maf, 1 for Town? I believe mafia can either shar...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:44 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

NAA might have gamethrown in the past, but that's not really relevant if someone else is gamethrowing now, just because NAA is the one bringing it up. If he's town, he's gamethrowing currently. How is he gamethrowing? Look at his vote. He’s just wrong RN. I’m hoping he just copy and pastes my reads...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:42 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

I mean yeah he’s kinda playing anti town with the 1 scum in Roleblocker when it’s very likely both town but like I expect NAA is the type of player to make wrong reads but yet I see other people make em too so it ain’t far off from normal play so I don’t see any game throwing here.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:41 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Lime Coke wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:30 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:28 pm NAA might have gamethrown in the past, but that's not really relevant if someone else is gamethrowing now, just because NAA is the one bringing it up.
If he's town, he's gamethrowing currently.
Wait why’s that?
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:40 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Marmot wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:20 pm Do my townreads of LP, Mac, LC, Guillo, and sig check out?
Oh they are all town most likely yes.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:37 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole Ok, so one is town Ok wait, so it is guaranteed that if there are two same copies of a role, one is town and one is scum? It cant be both town or both scum? Did you read the setup at all? There are 2 of each ro...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:36 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers? And you think they're both town? There are two of every role Yes, I understand that. I didn't know both LC & Dolby had claimed RB. Do you see town as having 2 RBers? I...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:33 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:55 pm
Gavial wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:52 pm Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole
Wait, what? We've got 2 claimed RBers?




And you think they're both town?
Yes absolutely.
Roles are not AI.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:32 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:52 pm But Marmot is definitely town, there's no reason to bus that hard, and I don't see Marmot pulling that move.
I do.
And that wasn’t even that hard of a Buss when Sabie was already in jeopardy lol and Marmot was in a bad position as well.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:52 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Like what’s really odd to me is why wasn’t Sabie roleblocked and why would mafia let Sabie attack when they can easily be roleblocked? Marmot bussing keeps making more and more sense which scares me and if Marmot is wolf, he just slanks until late game. What's odd to me is that I was roleblocked, I...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:52 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Dolby and Lime Coke are pretty damn Townie and they both claim roleblocker @NotAnAxehole
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:49 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Like what’s really odd to me is why wasn’t Sabie roleblocked and why would mafia let Sabie attack when they can easily be roleblocked?
Marmot bussing keeps making more and more sense which scares me and if Marmot is wolf, he just slanks until late game.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:13 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

So my biggest issue right now is I don't have any super solid mafia reads. I'm back and forth on Gullio, his low tunneling on me is a bit scummy and he's not doing much content wise just volume also there's this weird thing with naa which doesn't seem V/V unless I"m missing something? But, he ...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:11 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

I kinda want Jack to go over Nanook here.
Jack gives me Paranoia and has a wolf roll streak.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:10 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Yeah IK, I found it.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:09 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

But alright, you claim protected Marmot.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:08 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 am
Gavial wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:56 am
Dolby wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:55 am LC, it’s more likely that the kill got protected last night imo
@falcon45ca
Who did you medic last night?
Marmot
I’m Dumb.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:07 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Anyways I should be hard cleared from being a sabie teammate tbh, I dont think I'd ever save a teammate then immediately turn around and have them do the n1 kill, especially in a game with so many potential blocks Hmm honestly that’s a good point. Like why would Sabie do the kill? It makes more sen...
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:07 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:04 pm [VOTE: Gav] aubergine
Instead of voting me (and not the players roleblocked.) how about you answer my question and tell me who you “protected” last night.
by Gavial
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:04 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:55 am Dolby Falcon LimeCoke Mac has to contain a lot of wolves.
One or None, always Falcon if One.


What is your full reads btw?

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