The Syndicate

I know, you love the thread with me in it.
I get it!

Yeah I could have also played that better then I did at the end there.

GG Bois!

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:12 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:57 am I love urist new avatar. Amazing

Thanks! I made it myself.

Wait how?
You own a Dragon?

@Urist
You made a deal!
I hope you stick to your end of it!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:34 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:57 am I love urist new avatar. Amazing

I’m somewhat disappointed he didn’t go with butt slap pichu.

He will when Enclave defeats you all!

I’m not BOS so.
Also I’m pretty sure Alison realized I was Enclave yesterday.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:56 pm There's also the issue that Epignosis basically has to kill Marmot (if hubologist) if we never yeet Alison.

I mean I would vote Alison.....

If I was Town?

It’s against my win con to vote there.

It’s the TT!

@MartinGG99
Should I vote you or EPig Tomorrow?
Or do you want me to continue with the Tony Tunnel lol.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:55 pm "But wait, we can just force her to vote"

Yeah right she'll just scum-paint a town and vote there.

Yeah Martins right!
Go Martin Go!

Oh no, I’m caught wolf, how do I get out of this and defend myself to ML Town and win?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:27 pm We basically never win the manipulation of Alison imo unless we expect Enlcave to be dumb

Wouldn’t be surprised if Alison already figured out my team.

I used my commute the first night I claimed to no action.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:33 pm Alison should die today. Then ChopChop.

Awoooooooo!!!!

Now Urist, I wanna see spanky bum bum Pichu for the entire year.
No changeyes.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:31 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:30 pm Martin you can gobble me too.
Maybe a bit of Marmot too!

Are you saying a little bit of me can be gobbled, or a little bit of me can gobble you?

Why not both?

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:35 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:31 pm You know what, wanna make a bet Urist?

If you lose, that’s your new pick.
If you win, you decide.

if i win i get the privilege to choose my own avatar? how can i say no?

Sounds like a plan!
Enjoy spanky bum bum Pichu!

Honestly, probably just Tony lol

If I would have claimed Alison is Slaver you think anyone would have voted me?

PFP*

You know what, wanna make a bet Urist?

If you lose, that’s your new pick.
If you win, you decide.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:31 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:28 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:57 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:52 pm Kyle's avatar changes so much, I don't know whether to trust him or not

It's more suspicious when someone can stick with one avatar for years at a time imo

Pick an avatar for me

Yeah that one looks good for you Urist!
@Urist

Martin you can gobble me too.
Maybe a bit of Marmot too!

Tony you gobble!
Booooo!

@Alison
Lol we would have had 2 Vault City dead N1.
That would have sucked.

Why can I still talk? REEEE

Ok I’m just gonna self hammer.
Not lying when I said I messaged Sloon though I really did it’s just my wolf buds thought it was funny to kill them and piss me off.
I’m practically caught wolf anyway because I made the wrong choice, nothing I can do.
@Alison If you have a shot left, shoot Kyle.

If we can yeet Tony today trust me when I say there won’t be a LYLO Tomorrow.

If we can not Yeet me and go into LYLO that’d be great.
But I think Tony already won this for wolves even though I don’t think he did an entirely great job at it.

But yeah @Alison if your actual Slaver here I hope you know Tony is Enclave that saved your ass.
Or more like framed me for an easy ML.

Raul

You're a uniquely skilled mechanic and engineer entrusted with the maintenance and construction of Enclave vertibirds. These flying terrors are among the chief tactical advantages that allow Enclave technological power to remain unmatched in the region. You ain't gonna let nobody put a scratch on your girls.

You are a 3-shot tracker. Your birds are always in pristine operating condition, and that enables the Enclave to continue using them for countless reconnaissance sorties. Three times during the game during any separate night phases, you may select a player. You will be told who that player targeted that night if anyone.

Additionally, you're a 3-shot role blocker (1 limited). It's hard for the enemy to do their job when a chopper is raining lead on their position. Three times during the game during any separate night phases, you may select a player. That player's role will not function that night. One of these uses must be a limited block that cannot prevent fatal actions; you may choose which one.

I mean I suppose this is also probable.
@Epignosis
@MartinGG99

Although unless my result lied to me, they are Town.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:59 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:12 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:59 pm Actually, the incentive that Chop has to lie as mafia is that confirming Alison, even as Slaver, makes her completely unyeetable.

Not sure what you mean by this but either way Alison is Town or Slaver and priority is Enclave.

He’s what I know.
If Alison is Slaver my result is wrong.
In that case Alison/Tony/Tony’s Buds did something to make my result invalid.
This also means via my yeet it should be obvious Tony is scum that was signalling to Alison.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:29 am First of all, TSP potentially could have not predicted who I was, much less that him releasing on that night, if he was curling, would lead to you being mech-confirmed very likely scum.

Secondly, I don't know what "failure" means but I imagine its effectively a role-block. Your action wouldn't have gotten any feedback. Yet you said Alison wasn't slaver, as if you got negative feedback.

Thirdly, Marmot has pointed out that you could have motive for not confirming her as slaver.

Fourthly, we don't have any proof that you even tried to make a 2nd message. Only that you visited them by your own admission.

1)I mean I think it’s a possibility TSP did do it.
2)How would my action not have gotten any feedback when I target the night after EPig targeted Alison not the same.
3)What’s that motive? @Marmot
4)Oh trust me even if I was scum I would have made that message, although if my scum team attacked the same target I messaged then I wouldn’t quite honestly understand their train of thought but I would get a little irritated by it.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:51 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:48 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:46 pm If you and Epi are now masoned then one of your is BoS. If either of you had claimed that information yesterday then Chop would have died then

because there can only be a certain number of steel bros?

We went over this yesterday, you can check back. There is a requirement in the game that there is at least Steel bro. Chop was the only claimed steel bro, so without a cc it’s mechanically unwise to chop him

Yet you still voted me.
HUH.
Fake shit and a frame! GG I Lose!
After my flip if Town still doesn’t realize it’s Tony, I’m gonna lose my mind!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:39 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:38 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:36 pm Epignosis
Grogu
Jackofhearts2005
Long Con
Marmot
MartinGG99
Poison / Syn / Seanzie



I’d bet the game and 20 dollars on being town:
Daisy
Epi
Kyle
Martin
TSP
Urist

(Alison)

POE:
Grogu
LC
Jack
Marmot
Sean

So I’m POE and chop isn’t?

This is for tomorrow

I see you put Kyle higher then you.
Is that your missing link?

I think it’s Tony/Jack/Someone Else

I wanna see a world where Tony’s not mafia but I honestly can’t see myself seeing it.

I mean I could see it Tbh.

Dr. Charles Curling

You're a brilliant biologist and virologist serving the great American ambition to return to the mainland. You have studied the forced evolutionary virus or F.E.V. retrieved from the destroyed Mariposa Military Base and learned to mutate its fundamental structure to Enclave needs. The mutant population of the mainland must be eradicated before America can return.

You are a 1-shot mass infector. Once during the game during any night phase, you may release a diluted test batch of your modified F.E.V. onto various mainland targets. All roles belonging to near-human mutant populations (all factions other than the Enclave, Vault City, and Arroyo) will have 15% chance of failure that night.

Additionally, you're a 2-shot antidote. Your familiarity with dangerous pathogens enables you to catch the warning signs early and prevent needless death. Twice during the game during any separate day phases, you may select a player. You will be informed whether or not that player is poisoned, and if they are they will be cured.

Tony could be this role and used their Mass Infector on the night EPig went to visit Alison.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:06 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:03 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:50 pm You forgot to include the aspect that Chop Chop admitting to visiting a dead player and a player that was probably attacked.

Then that is all correct.

this new part confuses me

It's not really new.

Chop Chop admitted to messaging Sloonei the night Sloon died, and he recently admitted to faction-spying Epignosis.

Urist earlier said he saved Epignosis from last night's attack. Add two and two together, and its likely Chop Chop has been carrying the Enclave kills as of late.

Oh I’m serious when I said I messaged Sloon.
I wouldn’t waste an ability as either alignment.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:03 pm This is my role.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:28 am Louis Salvatore

You're the don of the Salvatore crime family residing at the bar named for you in Reno. You don't have quite the manpower of the Mordinos or Bishops, but your people are armed with powerful laser weapons that more than equalize the playing field.

You're a 2-shot role thief. Your people maintain secretive contact with the Enclave for arms purchases, though you still view them as the enemy. Twice during the game during any night phase, you may select a role ability listed for any member of the Enclave faction other than Charles Curling, Frank Horrigan, or Quincy and use it as described. If an ability relates to an irrelevant mechanic such as a factional night kill, that aspect will be useless to you. This will not take shots away from the Enclave themselves.

I copied the Communication Officer's conditional neighborhizer on N1 and N2.

N1 I targeted Epignosis.

N2 I targeted Alison and got a BTSC for D3 only.

To me Alison was likely outed scum as imo she was very heavily hinting, like overly hinting, on her Eldridge claim. She functions on a "mechanically optimal" mindset imo so it was quite clear to me she was scum or slaver. As slaver she 100% would use the town-optimal play (imo). And since Rej died as New Reno...I had to double check. And since Vault City died...she's 100% slaver.


UNLESS EPIGNOSIS LIED ABOUT TARGETING ALISON

CHOP CHOP LIED ABOUT HER BEING NOT-SLAVER.

Dude I swear to god I believed Alison was Slaver but explain to me why my result said EPig never visited Slaver.
Unless they were RB’ed?
But even so I’m not entirely sure.
If EPig was RB’Ed then yeah good chance it’s Tony!Enclave and Alison!Slaver.
But IDK.

Quite honestly if I was scum wouldn’t the optimal play be to out Alison as the Slaver and say “I’m right!”
Since I have been calling them Slaver the entire game.
As wolf it is legit stupid for me to not to claim Alison is Slaver.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:57 pm Hold on. We don't need to mass claim.

Chop Chop mechanically lied unless Epignosis lied about who he targeted.

[VOTE: Chop Chop] aubergine

He especially targeted Epignosis and not me, for some reason.

How?
@MartinGG99

I targeted EPig and they didn’t ever visit slaver.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:46 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:31 pm marmot who do you think should claim first today?

People that I don't mind claiming after me: Epi, Grogu, Alison.


I'd prefer to go after everyone else.

Yes I think Alison definitely needs to claim!
There’s only one possible role they can be but yeah sure let’s see what they claim.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:23 pm do we think it's possible the swing on dom was a save attempt

I kinda do wanna believe it.
I like REALLY wanna believe it is Tony saving Jack.
But like IDRK.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:00 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:49 pm OMFG!
How TF is Alison not Slaver!

Who did you target @ChopChop

EPiggy

I don’t fuckin understand this game.

OMFG!
How TF is Alison not Slaver!