The Syndicate

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:23 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:29 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.
welcome to playing with creature

he loves to catastrophize
thoughts on nutella?
think the way nutella is flitting from thought to thought and read to read is more in her villager meta than wolf meta. I think she'd be...tunnelier? as a wolf

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:05 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:54 pm Still feels like we're dealing with an above-average skilled wolfteam and that'd point out to players like nutella, alexa and even possibly dyachei
dya is far more in wolf range than either alexa or me
actually

@dyachei why did you decide to shoot marmot? i don't see any mention of him in your ISO prior to that

i'd think the shot is clearing, why TF does mafia shoot a buddy day 1 otherwise?
I saw he was a top wagon and I read his iso. it was limp af

I don’t get this post. Doesn’t Nutella tunnel as town too?

Is belzy a good wolf?

If belzy lives to late game they deserve more scrutiny

Their push on dizzy was good but my problem is I can’t remember a single read of theirs outside of dizzy

Maybe that’s a me not being more present problem though

Actually nah fk it imma just leave Betsy as town

Until further notice Atleast

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:04 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:01 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:26 pm personally I am also willing to sus wilgy since the one game I played with them I had a confident read that was correct and I like to believe I can read them coherently. last game all wilgy did was shit post with emojis and until he started getting grilled for it and voted for it, he wouldn't let up on the shit posting. kinda feel like he's just shit posting again and won't be willing to interact strongly unless pushed upon
I've been interacting since day started. Where are you?
Sorry by "interacting strongly" I meant having takes that contribute. I feel like most of your posts have little substance and reminds me a bit of that no role game we played recently where you shit posted until you were in danger of being voted off for it
I think my takes are quite fine. I've found two scum and are looking for more. What would you expect from me otherwise?

Who was the second?

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:04 pm i felt like ilario's push on guillo start of game was towny for him. because we both just got fooled by guillo, and usually when he's a villager he will scrutinize people after getting fooled by them so it felt like lacking TMI.

Wdym by lacking tmi?

I know this is hard to prove but i did sr guillo before I died if u remember the post I made about him not wilding out that was my own way of saying I was flipping again and I opened the game with a tunnel on him last game which is kinda why I pushed him again this game since his start felt very similar to me

Reading back I was kinda uncharitable to alexa when I expected her to have me as a v read, I suppose it’s not unreasonable for her to have been wary

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:03 pm Can 112 be town for that hmm

He’s town regardless imo

@Belzy is porcha 100% confirmed town to you no matter what? I still think every post they made in reference to me and Alexa was just hot garbage and not designed in any way to solve me

Honestly don’t think wilgy mr and hk should be top wagons

I’ll try consolidate something more useful by eod

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:30 am A shot rings out!

@Dyslexicon has died! They flip MAFIA! They reveal as:

Palantir

At night, target any player to learn their role, OR target yourself to learn two random roles that are present in the setup. You may only do this once per game.

Spoiler: show
@ 112
@ alexa
@ Belzy
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
Day continues!

Is this a role scum would pick? Second part of it is useless for scum if they chose roles over players but first part is a free kp with the soup mech so ig that’s pretty useful

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:32 am Just gonna snapshot this for referense before people unvote.
Dizzy (6) ilario, Belzy, Phil and Gloria, hollowkatt, nutella, Creature

This is kinda towny I think since he’s helping out 5 of my townreads

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:48 am @illario, why did you shoot Dizzy?

His eod felt slimy and he was making very reachy cases on people like ender and creature who were obv town

He also had wolfy interactions with people that weren’t in my towncore

And like some of his bigger wall posts like the analysis just felt contradictory in it, I can’t remember specifics I just remember wanting him dead once I rr eod

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:53 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:52 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:48 am @illario, why did you shoot Dizzy?
His eod felt slimy and he was making very reachy cases on people like ender and creature who were obv town
Can you look into my case on Nutella and Alexa and how Dizzy got in there to talk me out of it, it should spew me town and one of them wolf.

Kk I’ll add that on my list to do once I catch up

If there’s a wolf in them two who do you think it is?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:40 am
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:26 pm BTW I have mechanical information that implies we should *not* be killing Guillo today (it is not a green check).

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:21 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:19 pm Add guillo in there too
town, i thought he was maf yesterday but his reaction to me saying i was gonna shoot him + some info i have now, he is town

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:36 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:35 am
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:32 amvote: alexa
nahhhh, dw dizzy snowed me too with the emotional stuff first time we played. theyre a great wolf.

guillo might have had some w/w interactions with dizzy btw

/vote guillo
i didn't even get to iso him and i thought he was being towny, does anyone claim that? but yeah i feel really bad. also guillo can die my mech iss not strong enough to clear him.

ilario is obvious/lock town

BTW this is literally SO inconsistent and maybe just w/w

[VOTE: guillo and alexa] aubergine

I’d say the flip flopping might be villagery for her

Like idk, if she’s w/w with guillo would she just outright throw him under the bus like that if dizzy just died?

@belzy without outing anything how confident are u porcha is a villager? Is it something that they can never be mafia to you whatsoever or just that they’re less likely to be ?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:57 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:54 am And like some of his bigger wall posts like the analysis just felt contradictory in it, I can’t remember specifics I just remember wanting him dead once I rr eod
Tomorrow is my day off but I don't think I'll be able to catch up and I know I recently gave you reasons to be paranoid about me but... give me a chance yah? I waited a year to play Champions but trouble at home and work has gotten in the way.

Fair enough, I don’t want to take this away from you if ur town so I’m gonna give you a chance to catch up

/unvote everything for now

Actually I’m too lazy to change my votes but yeah nothing is set in stone for me rn and I’m open to hearing everyone out

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:19 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:07 am Reading back I was kinda uncharitable to alexa when I expected her to have me as a v read, I suppose it’s not unreasonable for her to have been wary
and I don't get the same charity eh?

typical

But I did acknowledge that you could have been misreading me due to your host pov

I was also a lot more harsher on her than I was on you and hence why I singled her out on that post.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:18 am I don't really have any scum reads, but I would straight up yeet Sloonei here. He probably doesn't want to play because he's mafia.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:20 am We should not chop Marmot D1. He's probably town and in any case his alignment will show, and I'd rather have him around if he's town.

Noteworthy succession of posts here. He shades sloonei pretty hard but defends marmot and part of me thinks if someone randed scum with both sloonei and marmot and was committed to bussing someone d1 they would probably choose to bus marmot and defend sloonei. Not the other way around, so I feel like this looks decent for sloonei.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:48 am Unvoting TSP and Sloonei, so for a first time not voting 8 people but 6. I will probably slowly downsize to just a few

Sloonei I agree with, tsp I’m 50/50 on

I think wilgy and hk are town so it would be cool if they won’t get voted out today lol

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:52 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:51 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:48 am Unvoting TSP and Sloonei, so for a first time not voting 8 people but 6. I will probably slowly downsize to just a few
Sloonei I agree with, tsp I’m 50/50 on

I think wilgy and hk are town so it would be cool if they won’t get voted out today lol
why do you think hk is town?

The read is pure meta but he hasn’t done any of his usual tells, his method of play feels very unappeasing which is a hallmark of his town game ime

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:52 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:51 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:48 am Unvoting TSP and Sloonei, so for a first time not voting 8 people but 6. I will probably slowly downsize to just a few
Sloonei I agree with, tsp I’m 50/50 on

I think wilgy and hk are town so it would be cool if they won’t get voted out today lol
If Wilg is town all d1 eod wagons were on town, lol, and that actually could be. I want to investigate HK further before considering him to be town.

Well that’s the thing, people point to someone being a wagon to other town wagons like it’s some kind of smoking gun…but like if people are collectively wrong about 3 wagons what’s to say they aren’t wrong about the fourth? Let’s say if wilgy died instead and someone like Sean survived would that make him mafia because he was the cw to 3 other townies? It doesn’t change his role card.
Some of his posts today felt good enough for me that I don’t feel like he should be a top wagon imo

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:18 pm I need to leave for a few hours but it might be for the rest of the day maybe.

If you are gonna chop me or shoot me, do it today, today is the best day because im not invested, i haven had the time to play here and read all of it. Please don't wait until i get invested in the game to kill me, don't waste my time.

If im not chopped i promise i will keep a watchful eye during the night and try to out some thoughts we can work with tomorrow.

Guillo what happened to this?

Reading guillos iso I’m less sure of him being a hit now

He does have some decent moments in it

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.

Like I think the bottom part about mac seems like a townie thought

@Guillotine i read your iso and I think I’m okay with unvoting you for now, but if you’re town I know you can do better than what you’ve done so far so stop gif posting and whatever else it is

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:47 am i think i agree with the dizzy town reads

hmmmmmmm

@Creature can u read the jpic iso and tell me what u think? I’m getting pingy vibes

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:39 am Elaborate

You talk about dizzy like…an insane amount lol

A lot of the people you have pushed end up being villagers

You come into the game claiming that radishes is someone you know well and can read well but despite that you don’t really interact with him all that much and he finds you pingy too and between both of you I think he’s more likely to be town

You haven’t had any obvious town moments whereas the last time we played you were a walking towntell

A lot of your takes and posts are just very surface level one liners and it’s missing that nuance which again I saw from you last time

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:47 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:42 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:39 am Elaborate
You talk about dizzy like…an insane amount lol

A lot of the people you have pushed end up being villagers

You come into the game claiming that radishes is someone you know well and can read well but despite that you don’t really interact with him all that much and he finds you pingy too and between both of you I think he’s more likely to be town

You haven’t had any obvious town moments whereas the last time we played you were a walking towntell

A lot of your takes and posts are just very surface level one liners and it’s missing that nuance which again I saw from you last time
Dizzy and I happened to be in the game thread at a similar time so of course, I'll talk about him more because he is someone I have interacted with the most.

I probably overestimated my ability to read radishes. He gave me pingy vibes from how he started this phase but with how the flips went im comfortoble having him in my town pile.

Who are the people that I have pushed which turned out to be villagers?

It's a big game and haven't really read the majority of the thread compared to the last game which was a bit more chill because of post restrictions. im also terrible at putting down thoughts into words.

Boknows ender

You pushed creature d1 but changed

You have been shading mr

You pushed wilgy and now I think he’s likely town

True, it does involve me doing some preflipping but I also felt like you didn’t really believe in any of those pushes as you were doing them, maybe I’m just confbiased rn

Which trs and srs do you feel strongest about rn?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:53 am I feel my approach to Creature's slot was the towniest thing I have done this game

How so?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:58 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:53 am True, it does involve me doing some preflipping but I also felt like you didn’t really believe in any of those pushes as you were doing them, maybe I’m just confbiased rn

Which trs and srs do you feel strongest about rn?
I feel strongly about Creature and belzy from the non-confirms.

Feel mildly decent about c4, nutella and MR and others that i can't remember from the top of my head.

I don't have any super strong scum reads so far over than im casting my eye at TSP who knows how to read me well and hasn't really made an attempt to solve me as far as I can tell.

Aighttt Ty for this

Can you elaborate on why u tr those people?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:06 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:01 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:58 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:53 am True, it does involve me doing some preflipping but I also felt like you didn’t really believe in any of those pushes as you were doing them, maybe I’m just confbiased rn

Which trs and srs do you feel strongest about rn?
I feel strongly about Creature and belzy from the non-confirms.

Feel mildly decent about c4, nutella and MR and others that i can't remember from the top of my head.

I don't have any super strong scum reads so far over than im casting my eye at TSP who knows how to read me well and hasn't really made an attempt to solve me as far as I can tell.

Aighttt Ty for this

Can you elaborate on why u tr those people?
Creature - his detatched doom crying was towny as I recall he did that in the past in his town game. His scum game feels very different here compared to the one I played him on. I think Dizzy sorta shaded him heavily as well iirc, I think I had an interaction with dizzy on that which you can check in my iso

Belzy - I think they were the first one to call dizzy scum? Doubt a partner would bus dizzy that early when they had potential to go very deep imo. There was a derp they had iirc and i remember a post from them on day 1 whcih made me snap townread them.

C4 reminds me of his town game in Yolo's invitational. Do you feel the same way there?

Ummmmm kinda. Like I thought he was towny on d1 but there’s alota people I think are town calling him scum and I don’t like to ignore others reads so I’d say he’s due for a re-evaluation soon. Gth I wanna say he’s town though and if he is scum then he’s leveled up considerably (not to say he wasn’t a good scum before but he’s been able to incorporate some parts of his town game pretty well into this game if im misreading him)

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:57 am i've been pretty clear about wanting to be dead before friday. not sure why you think I'd kill a wolf if I were a wolf for cred

yeah that parts fair enough as a counter argument

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:45 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:47 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:45 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:44 pm Going back to my actual guts

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine
sell me
Read the first part of his iso and scan for the energy in it. If you have the time. Also his answer to me about me having a funeral for my emotion reading or whatever, that's maybe personal to me but it hit really weird.
@ilario what's pinged you on JPIC?

this interaction feels not W/W to me

His iso and some of his answers to me

Lmk what u think

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:18 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:18 am I don't really have any scum reads, but I would straight up yeet Sloonei here. He probably doesn't want to play because he's mafia.
i really just struggle to see, based on everything i know of dizzy, that he makes this comment so early about sloon if sloon is his partner. like, i'd think he'd want to make sloon look good and not force this type of attention on him prior to it being a thing? i think sloon just has to be a villager here, or at least not mafia

Yeah I said something similar

Not partners imo dizzy was trying to pocket sloonei

@alexa why’s tsp scum? Isn’t he a top poster and some of his content felt okay?

Nutella is viewing

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:46 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:44 pm @alexa why’s tsp scum? Isn’t he a top poster and some of his content felt okay?
him being a top poster is NAI

i think his approach to me has been scummy/unusual for v!TSP. he has voted me at random times without really expressing any opinion on me (he grilled me for the alison shot but never really spoke up and like, was hypocritical about it, and i really felt like one of the people who commented on the shot after the fact but not at the time were wolves). usually as a villager he will express a read on me, lock it in, then not care. the way he's approached me this game has been weird as fuck.

Ah kk that makes sense

@TonyStarkPrime u got a rebuttal to this?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:19 am today's a good day to kill mac and nutella and alexa and sloonei and flip four wolves if wolves chose people and not roles

@alexa do u think Tony ever says this is a wolf and pisses 3 loud people + 1 retired potato off?

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:49 pm @ilario btw idk how much of this you saw but nutella got shot by sig. she was town arsonist. the reason i faked the red day 1 was i had info on her role and i thought she was mafia or 3P for it.

dizzy already flipped scum rolecop, put the pieces together

probably getting souped but w/e this isn't exact

Can u put the pieces together for me and tell me what to do lmao I gtg back to clinic

I’ll read after just ping me the stuff u want me to see

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:19 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:18 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:16 pm Dead Players/Alive Players:

Alive: 22
112
alexa
Belzy
c4e5g3d5
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei
falcon45ca
Guillotine
hollowkatt
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
Paopan
Phil and Gloria
Porscha
sabie12
Seanzie
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

5 wolves alive, 1+ 3P alive

Dead Wolf: 2
Marmot
dyslexicon

Dead Village: 8
KZA
Scotty
Alison
BoKnows
Urist
EnderWiggin
NotAnAxehole
nutella
You're still including Seanzie among your living
omg

his spirit lives on in us

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:23 pm Okay I still only have hollowkatt for wolf but

c4e5g3d5
Master Radishes

May be an interesting place to look at

mr feels towny

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:52 am
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:51 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:23 pm Okay I still only have hollowkatt for wolf but

c4e5g3d5
Master Radishes

May be an interesting place to look at
mr feels towny
falcon has a claimed green on mr

ohhhh nicee thx for that

im 20 pgs behind and catching uyp

@sig did u also shoot kza

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