The Syndicate

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:07 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 am I’m 3p, I’m hks partner. We have two wincons. First wincon is kill two wolves. If we kill two wolves, we achieve our wincon, get removed from the game and game continues as it normally would. Second wincon: we survive all the way to the end (just one of us is fine) and we win with whoever is alive. So yeah, we can win by winning with town and eliminating all the wolves. So there’s heavy incentive for us to townside which is why we have. I used hks day vig on dizzy so we already got 1 of our kills. If Alexa is mafia then I get my second and I leave the game if she flips mafia.

As for my abilities, everything lp outed today is….correct. So correct that I wonder if it’s coming from tmi. They perfectly guessed my characters name and some of their abilities. Which are: twice a game I can make myself untargetable to any night actions. I think the night alexa claimed her vest to be popped was the night wolves tried to kill me. That day before eod, I made a post saying tsp was probably a wolf and mac even noticed it and commented on it. I killed dizzy that day. I was pushing mac. And fossed alexa. I’ve been n1d 3 of my last games in a row (excluding didney world). Im a hot commodity for wolves to nk, so yes I do strongly believe wolves had a lot of reason to want me dead.

Start of today Alexa has a sudden epiphany that 3p isn’t eliminated. My guess is she didn’t discuss this in the chat with belzy and pao? Wanna know why? Probably because she didn’t know until sod because she used her rc on me. Why would town alexa rc me if she’s convinced I’m town? Or belzy on d2? It’s because she’s wolf and is trying to rc people mafia can’t push to get misyeeted.

And yeah I know what y’all are gonna say 3p is bad and shouldn’t be trusted, but if I was an evil aligned 3p I have no reason to play this way. I wasn’t being sussed by anyone, I can just keep living off the towncred from dizzy and achieve my wincon if it was an evil one. I wouldn’t invest this much into solving when I’m already in a good spot. So why would I as 3p care so much about townsiding? Because I’m a petty ass bitch and I think wolves chose players so I wanna bury the entire team for not choosing me lol, that’s pmuch it.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:32 am Also another reason why I didn’t scumside is because my role can’t. If scum kills all villagers and there’s more than 1 wolf alive with me endgame then wolves win. If there’s only one wolf, then my faction takes the win from wolves. So technically there is no way for me to win with wolves, or else I woulda just sided with Alexa once I started to sr her in that hopes that I could win with her. I can however still win with town if I endgame with town no matter how many town are alive, ik it sounds weird and that’s why there’s more incentive to townside with my role but Yeah I don’t blame u if u don’t believe me, if I’m wrong on alexa I deserve to be voted out tomorrow anyways.

You can win with anyone but you can't win with wolves?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:07 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 am I’m 3p, I’m hks partner. We have two wincons. First wincon is kill two wolves. If we kill two wolves, we achieve our wincon, get removed from the game and game continues as it normally would. Second wincon: we survive all the way to the end (just one of us is fine) and we win with whoever is alive. So yeah, we can win by winning with town and eliminating all the wolves. So there’s heavy incentive for us to townside which is why we have. I used hks day vig on dizzy so we already got 1 of our kills. If Alexa is mafia then I get my second and I leave the game if she flips mafia.

As for my abilities, everything lp outed today is….correct. So correct that I wonder if it’s coming from tmi. They perfectly guessed my characters name and some of their abilities. Which are: twice a game I can make myself untargetable to any night actions. I think the night alexa claimed her vest to be popped was the night wolves tried to kill me. That day before eod, I made a post saying tsp was probably a wolf and mac even noticed it and commented on it. I killed dizzy that day. I was pushing mac. And fossed alexa. I’ve been n1d 3 of my last games in a row (excluding didney world). Im a hot commodity for wolves to nk, so yes I do strongly believe wolves had a lot of reason to want me dead.

Start of today Alexa has a sudden epiphany that 3p isn’t eliminated. My guess is she didn’t discuss this in the chat with belzy and pao? Wanna know why? Probably because she didn’t know until sod because she used her rc on me. Why would town alexa rc me if she’s convinced I’m town? Or belzy on d2? It’s because she’s wolf and is trying to rc people mafia can’t push to get misyeeted.

And yeah I know what y’all are gonna say 3p is bad and shouldn’t be trusted, but if I was an evil aligned 3p I have no reason to play this way. I wasn’t being sussed by anyone, I can just keep living off the towncred from dizzy and achieve my wincon if it was an evil one. I wouldn’t invest this much into solving when I’m already in a good spot. So why would I as 3p care so much about townsiding? Because I’m a petty ass bitch and I think wolves chose players so I wanna bury the entire team for not choosing me lol, that’s pmuch it.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:32 am Also another reason why I didn’t scumside is because my role can’t. If scum kills all villagers and there’s more than 1 wolf alive with me endgame then wolves win. If there’s only one wolf, then my faction takes the win from wolves. So technically there is no way for me to win with wolves, or else I woulda just sided with Alexa once I started to sr her in that hopes that I could win with her. I can however still win with town if I endgame with town no matter how many town are alive, ik it sounds weird and that’s why there’s more incentive to townside with my role but Yeah I don’t blame u if u don’t believe me, if I’m wrong on alexa I deserve to be voted out tomorrow anyways.

You can win with anyone but you can't win with wolves?

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:01 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:57 pm I think I would've liked if Paopan was resolved last night. I think DrWilgy probably should be resplved too. Sloonei is more dependent on what alexa flips.

Spoiler Alert: It will be town




I'm really frustrated with illario for how he's acting toward me and kind of hurt that he doesn't think I can play this way as town, but I'm doing my best to pull myself together regardless. Please kill him tomorrow, do not reconsider on this regard. He is probably real 3P but his play is losing us the game/detrimental to town and he's clearly scumsiding fairly hard, i think he's lying about his wincon because v!him or him playing like a villager would NEVER, EVER scumread me him


Read the way he turns on his read on me from yesterday coming into today, it doesn't make sense


He could just be a wolf but his play would be suicidal then

If I'm a wolf and he's not lying then he just dies today so you don't need to consider that scenario, but I promise you I'm town and we might be completely fucked due to 3P

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:07 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:13 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:11 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:10 am I already explained everything about her

She’s just a wolf

Why’d she clear Belzy and Porscha?

She didn’t, she outed their roles to be soup killed

There was no reason for her to even role cop Betsy if she’s town, alexa was heavily townreading the slot on d2, why would she rc that slot if she trs them? Betsy was in no pressure to be voted out yesterday either because tsp was red checked so again it makes no sense for her to out the roles. I spent an hour trying to get her to hc her role and she insisted it’s a bad idea but then outta the blue she just decides to claim her own role AND two others? Like cmon man

That doesn't make sense. For one I rolecopped Porscha and not Belzy, there was not 100% proof that Porscha was lock clear, Belzy just claimed they had mechanical information on Porscha. There were 3 V flips and I realized I was wrong in some of my reads, so if I could confidently clear them, that felt useful to me.


What TF is my scum motive in that last part? I clearly did it impulsively dude.

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:14 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:14 am Betsy has been the most obv town slot in the game, they were under no risk and there was no reason to out their role


UNLESS this was some crazy town play by Alexa where she outed fake roles so mafia gets the wrong soup info but judging by porcha and Betsy reaction to it I don’t think that’s the case

I like how you product this out of thin air today but said nothing yesterday, you are so fucking clearly operating under an agenda dude and if not then I don't even know what to say to you



I outed it because the slots were getting heat and I wanted to protect them, it was obviously impulsive/not smart but your narrative of me doing that as scum makes no sense. You can die tomorrow (or hopefully tonight from sabie)

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:07 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:05 pm People really have to trust me Alaxa is town, we together wanted Mac dead, and Sabie was forced to join us

IDG why a non-malicious illario poisons me there. he was talking about sussing Mac/Creature yesterday, not me. if he's not malicious it's extremely WTF.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:09 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:05 pm People really have to trust me Alaxa is town, we together wanted Mac dead, and Sabie was forced to join us

Well that makes Neeko a bit more confident. Was starting to worry she stopped a Vig from killing Alexa from what Ilario was saying.
Honestly ilario may just be misguided in their thought that Alexa claimed the Mafia shot her when shooting ilario since ilario's commute it not guaranteed that he was shot.