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by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:25 am
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Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:11 am
ilario wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:44 am
cassandra wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:28 am waza i prob won't post again tonight but please tell me why dizzy is maf without using meta cuz this feels like one of your katze reads
AKA your reads where you fos someone just bc they trick you as wolf the game before or bc you know they're a good wolf
That’s not even remotely close to what happened with Katze. I read Katze correctly at the start and end of every game I’ve seen her. I misread her halfway in poisoner game because I was getting snowed by arete at that point and felt like their dynamic was super weird af which meant there was always a maf in them two. Once I reconsidered my arete read I went back to tr’ing Katze

I find dizzy scummy because I think he’s overly bothered by my sr on him. His first reaction was to call it bad but he didn’t really evaluate whether it was coming from a genuine place or not. It felt like he was more annoyed that he was being srd for what he thought was the wrong reasons more than anything else. In a macro sense he is very different to his last game, I agree, but in a micro sense I don’t think he’s all that different. I skimmed a town game of his earlier and he’s full of insightful thoughts and isn’t afraid to go against the grain. I didn’t really see that from him in his maf game where he seems more content in just sounding towny tonally and just going with the flow. Like he was cool voting mac yesterday when others were fossing mac, but didn’t really do the same to jjj. He echoed doubts on marmot right after esooa expressed doubts but not before which is weird since it seems that he feels strongly about marmot being scum. He said earlier on d1 he didn’t like my push on him so I don’t see how I’m in his trs now. His tr more or less is just very consensus-ish to me. He doesn’t reveal more of his cards then he had to because outside of his read on anne and marmot and his 3-4 trs he gave I don’t really know his thoughts on other slots which gives him a lot of wiggle room as mafia imo.
Jesus christ, there's so much wrong with this. First of all, you thought I was scummy just for existing from the get go, so saying I'm scummy now because I'm "overly bothered" is peepee. Also, why is that scum indicative for me? Guess what, it's not. I hate being scum read as town, especially by someone who should know better. What the fuck are you saying about me not evaluating if your read is coming from a genuine place? I'm town reading your slot, it's evaluated, so I'm assuming it's coming from a genuine place, which is why it's so annoying. I'm sorry I'm not "insightful" enough for you this game, though I think you're giving me way too little credit in your tunnel mind. First of all, I've read only D1, all in one go. Truthfully, I'm not all that obsessed by this game, and I'm finding it hard to make my mind up about things. (For the record, I rarely go against the grain all that much, as I'm very impressionable. You coming with anecdotes about a game is using "meta" to justify your tunnel and it's poopoo.) Anyway, I think my most "insightful" take is that Nut is probably town here, and I have reasons in my ISO. There seems to be contention. Not even sure about this read, but I think my reasons are good. I did not echo Marmot suspicion after Esooa, I had my OWN misgivings about Marmot because I started to read the fucking game and Marmot is someone I know well, and I didn't like his start to the game at all.

You're literally only seeing me from a mafia perspective because tunnel. Your reasoning is actually very terrible, to the point that it does make me question you. Why do you assume I have to have "non consensus" reads in order to be town? That is not normal for me, first of all, second, I haven't fully grasped the game, so I'm going off of consensus deliberately as well, and third is there even a consensus lol.

I know I shouldn't waste breath doing this, but can't help it. Do better. Listen to Calexa. Thanks.
My initial sr was to prompt a reaction from you, go back and check the interaction I even said you were town afterwards. Why do you get the impression I should know better though? We only have one game together and I was off on you for majority of that game? Oh ig we have constellations too if that counts. And I’m sorry if my tunnel is frustrating, I know they are but they help me get reads from slots that would otherwise be unreadable, other than saying you wouldn’t do “xyz” as mafia do you honestly think you’ve projected towniness this game to an extent that would make me putting pressure on you to be a bad idea? And it’s hard for me to take “I wouldn’t do xyz arguments as mafia” with any grain of salt because there’s an annoyingly high amount of slots this game that have used that argument, or arguments along that same mentality this game to the point where there has to be Atleast one mafia using it too.
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:47 am
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Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Oh and also because I came into the day wanting to push wilgy or naa but I think they’ve both been towny so...yeah.
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:45 am
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Lime Coke wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:39 am @ilario

If Anne flips green would you still be thinking Nutella is town? Especially with that EOD?
Hmmm kinda. I’m not really basing my read on nutella of her accuracy on anne
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:44 am
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cassandra wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:28 am waza i prob won't post again tonight but please tell me why dizzy is maf without using meta cuz this feels like one of your katze reads
AKA your reads where you fos someone just bc they trick you as wolf the game before or bc you know they're a good wolf
That’s not even remotely close to what happened with Katze. I read Katze correctly at the start and end of every game I’ve seen her. I misread her halfway in poisoner game because I was getting snowed by arete at that point and felt like their dynamic was super weird af which meant there was always a maf in them two. Once I reconsidered my arete read I went back to tr’ing Katze

I find dizzy scummy because I think he’s overly bothered by my sr on him. His first reaction was to call it bad but he didn’t really evaluate whether it was coming from a genuine place or not. It felt like he was more annoyed that he was being srd for what he thought was the wrong reasons more than anything else. In a macro sense he is very different to his last game, I agree, but in a micro sense I don’t think he’s all that different. I skimmed a town game of his earlier and he’s full of insightful thoughts and isn’t afraid to go against the grain. I didn’t really see that from him in his maf game where he seems more content in just sounding towny tonally and just going with the flow. Like he was cool voting mac yesterday when others were fossing mac, but didn’t really do the same to jjj. He echoed doubts on marmot right after esooa expressed doubts but not before which is weird since it seems that he feels strongly about marmot being scum. He said earlier on d1 he didn’t like my push on him so I don’t see how I’m in his trs now. His tr more or less is just very consensus-ish to me. He doesn’t reveal more of his cards then he had to because outside of his read on anne and marmot and his 3-4 trs he gave I don’t really know his thoughts on other slots which gives him a lot of wiggle room as mafia imo.
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:34 am
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Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:25 am
ilario wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:14 am Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if pg 54 is w/w from dizzy and spf the whole interaction just feels weird and neither is trying to solve each other despite actively thinking the other is wolfy and then they somehow end up on a lame anne vote
Or you could get over your omg dizzy scum thing cause it lame

Why no vote Anne?
I don’t think the vote is optimal regardless of her alignment

Anne has done 2 things that pinged me this game. The first is when she said something about her not being insightful when she’s town or whatever is normal for her. Idk if that’s her being sarcastic but the statement was just not true if she’s serious. The second was when she got worked up that jjj didn’t tr her because I don’t know why she would expect jjj to be able to read her correctly.

Other than that I have no gripes with her. I think tonally she seems town and the way she’s read people so far feels genuine from her POV. If she’s town and gets eliminated then it sets up mafia to push Nutella tomorrow which I don’t want happening.

There’s also a world where she is maf and I’m misreading her. I’m not actively worried about that world rn because if she’s maf she kinda has to keep me alive and if it gets to a point where all mafia are dead and I’m still alive and she’s alive and everyone else has called her scum then I’ll reconsider my read. It’s kinda what happened to arete in the poisoner game I played with them, I misread arete but I wasn’t too worried about it since I pushed all their teammates and all that was left was arete and a bunch of super towny people in the end.

TLDR: I could be wrong on my anne read but I don’t think it’s a game losing read if I’m wrong, I do think however that if you/spf are maf and we let you slip by in a world where anne is town then this has potential to go south for town really fast.

Fwiw I’m interested to hear more about marmot case.
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:27 am
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:41 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:40 pm I'm going to sum up Marmot's town game in a sentence, and yall can judge if this game is in line with that:

"I'll be back tonight, don't burn the house down till I get back"

Naturally, I grab the matches as soon as I hear that, but this Marmot is completely different and seems to feel the need to demonstrate their investment in the game at every turn, not only that, but their cases have been far more extensive than I've ever seen from town!marmot in terms of regular elaboration.
damn that's a pretty fucken insightful read bro lol
wow me and mac melding might mean he isnt maf lol

mac if ur town theres always a maf in dizzy or spf and i expect u to be able to figure out which after ive narrowed it down so much for you
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:25 am
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:40 pm I'm going to sum up Marmot's town game in a sentence, and yall can judge if this game is in line with that:

"I'll be back tonight, don't burn the house down till I get back"

Naturally, I grab the matches as soon as I hear that, but this Marmot is completely different and seems to feel the need to demonstrate their investment in the game at every turn, not only that, but their cases have been far more extensive than I've ever seen from town!marmot in terms of regular elaboration.
this guys probably just town and i wish u played every game like this and we would probably never lose together
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:20 am
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Oh what next page they say they don’t fos each other wtf
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:14 am
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Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if pg 54 is w/w from dizzy and spf the whole interaction just feels weird and neither is trying to solve each other despite actively thinking the other is wolfy and then they somehow end up on a lame anne vote
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:19 am
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I don’t like marmots push on naa, if there’s a deepwolf this game I’d loook Into marmot first if it comes to that, but I kinda think that him taking records of the voting logs during eod is pretty damn towny. I just tr naa more than marmot atm and dislike his push there
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:15 am
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:03 pm
iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:57 pm i dont think i even express that townread as scum

or if i do i express it with a ton more reservation so that my agendaed turn on you looks more believable
You have no choice but to townread her because I am townreading her and you will never get her mischopped while I am... case in point you were accutely aware of my read because you horse collared me for saying "neat" when Wilgy unvoted me. You're hyper vigilant in this game but acting memey and aloof and that's a scumtell for anyone good at mafia.
MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:07 pm Your today has been characterised by transparent pocketing and TMI of nutella's slot, TMI of the fact that Falcon and I are lovers, and capitalising on bad reason for scumreading me.

The Mac wagon has been nothing but omgus from jump. SPF started it because I voted her. Shit reason. Then Lime Coke sheeped because he's a simp. There was never enough meat on that bone for you to go from townreading me to locking me in a POE world of three with NAA and Anne. You are better than that.
MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:16 pm given the mafia got alerted when i checked falcon there's guaranteed to be a mafia voting me with the way that I was playing because they know it's 2 for the price of 1
first 2 quotes are decently towny tho

wdym about mafia being alerted? how do you know that?
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:13 am
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:01 pm
iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:50 pm
iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:49 pm anyway this is post 91/100 for me

gonna "save" posts again (will probably blow them whenever i think of funny stuff to post rather than actual substantive and helpful things to post

my worldview and preferred course of action remains "nuke naa/mac/anne in any order then re-eval after"

glhf
i don't buy your progression on me from the start of the day to here... you went from townreading me, and then when SPF voted for me you started acting as if you were always scumreading me
i got convinced that maybe its naive to clear you for those associations, which was my main reason (see the two posts i made about hating everybody's association reads including my own)

and like

i have been scumreading you for quite some time in this game

and also my progression not being explicit and easily followable is a towntell for me

if youre town you could be right on spf? idk? im certainty a horrible direction though
i don't think spf is mafia anymore, my alignment is not hinged on SPFs alignment... more wolfy bullshit
nvm bad read

theres always at least one in mac/spf
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:10 am
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Wow mac is actually doing towny things on pg53
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:06 am
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falcon45ca wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:36 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:30 pm Some of you already know this, and were alerted as soon as it happened, so may as well catch everyone up to speed.




Mac & I are now Lovers.
yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
It appears to have had less thread impact than we expected
this just encourages me to vote mac even more jsyk
by ilario
Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:03 am
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DrWilgy wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:33 pm
leetic wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:25 pm Still don't think anne's scum, if Wilgy or Axehole flips bad I might consider it but for now there are much better actions

Not really buying the case on Mac right now either
For Anne to be scum I'm pretty sure I have to be as well. I know that is not the case, but can attempt to view from an outside perspective and still don't see that as the case.
kinda towny
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:47 pm
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cassandra wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:03 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:54 pm
cassandra wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:51 pm
iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:08 pm what came off as a bastardization (maybe more accurately, caricature) of your town game was the moment you claimed protective 3x in response to zero votes and nutella floating paranoia

and "95%? might as well not call it a townread at all"

felt like an extra cartoonish version of your known sensitivity to sus

tbh I just found it funny but I'm p sure that's what esooa was referring to specifically

Lol well I was half memeing on myself because I was aware my reaction was irrational but couldn't stop myself. I don't think I did much harm considering I didn't really think I'd be able to get myself through today without being tempted to claim anyway

And truthfully I do try to imitate elements of my town game as wolf, in champs I legit had my games open and mirrored some exact lines and reactions but imitating that particular part which would get me needless attention with 0 votes on me is not something I'd do. Also after champs/constellations I just really have grown to hate wolfing and don't think I'd be this invested but don't expect people to believe that. I feel entitled to townreads I guess because as wolf with literal JJJ there was 0 reason for me to do what I did eod but I think people in general just struggle to read me and I get it lmao
multiple EMers always say this and it's kinda true but really their compulsion to perform well over powers the hatred of it

why am I town
I don't think any EMers hate wolfing besides me and Brad lmao
Anne wanted to roll wolf in our hydra and I was like wtf
I used to have fun but I mainly realized I don't like it because every time I high effort it results in town being extremely emotional which exhausts me emotionally to an extreme

Don't get me wrong I would put up a good wolf performance if I had to but I have trouble pretending to care about my reads anyway

And I feel like your approach to your read on me is villagery. Not super confident about it but the nuance of waiting for a game to end because you're pinged by my approach to NOOK is so highly specific I'd be surprised if you came up with that if you're aware of my alignment
the nuance of waiting is something ive seen her do as a wolf too fwiw, but yeah the rest of it felt genuine
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:39 pm
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cassandra wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:19 pm Ok Wilgy is towny when he drops the gimmick

Tbh I thought Mr was a bad shot because I had him as town, I think shooting the main CW (Anne) wouldve been correct there, though I wouldn't have cried about a Mac shot.
Yeah I agree

And jjj spewed him Town kinda from memory
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:00 pm
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Hey nutella since ur the person from my trs that has the most experience with Mac can u dedicate some time to solving his slot today? I am concerned that u don’t have mutual trs ln each other which I think you would if you were tvt
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:58 pm
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anne wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:58 pm I'm pretty sure Nutella is a meta reader, but that's beside the point. Esooa is wolfy
how so?
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:55 pm
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It wasn’t in reference to him subbing out since I assume like mu we shouldn’t talk about that, it’s in reference to him 2 posting and jjj holding out posts for sloonei

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:03 pm @Sloonei I have saved some of these posts with the hope of interacting with you pre-cap lift. It’d be really swell just get some bare bones of what you think of the game even if not via a wretched ketchup.
Sloonei wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:01 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:03 pm @Sloonei I have saved some of these posts with the hope of interacting with you pre-cap lift. It’d be really swell just get some bare bones of what you think of the game even if not via a wretched ketchup.
I think it's lovely that this game is happening, but I should not be signing up to play mafia at this time.
Only for sloonei to reply with just this. I feel like this interaction would have gone differently if they’re partners, perhaps be a little more extended
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:32 pm
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Esooa wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:29 pm
ilario wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:27 pm
cassandra wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:21 pm Voting Falcon before Mac is literally bad in every single world I don't get what you mean.

/vote Mac

Also side-eyeing Anne hard rn.
why??

also can u explain why u feel so sure on ur spf tr? i found her towny yesterday but i think if esooa is town she looks worse and if mac is actually town she looks bad too
why does she look worse if I'm town?
Well if ur town and she’s mafia ur slot is kinda one of the slots she needs in the poe for her to win but she was quick to dismiss the point that sloonei would probably have cared even a slight amount about this game if he randed scum with jjj
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:27 pm
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cassandra wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:21 pm Voting Falcon before Mac is literally bad in every single world I don't get what you mean.

/vote Mac

Also side-eyeing Anne hard rn.
why??

also can u explain why u feel so sure on ur spf tr? i found her towny yesterday but i think if esooa is town she looks worse and if mac is actually town she looks bad too
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:09 pm
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The more falcon talks the more I want to yeet mac for putting us this in this situation lol. The dude just tricks falcon into tunneling whoever mac fosses and falcon looks like the bad guy tho in his head he’s convinced they’re his own reads. Honestly it’s kinda smart by mac. And he could be doing it as town but so far the pushes he’s tricking falcon into tunneling for him are all bad.
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:41 am
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Oh I forgot about marmot idk maybe he might be a blind spot who knows
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 am
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staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 am
ilario wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:25 am But who am I misreading then 🥺
i dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing

it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago

Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.

Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.

Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.

Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm

Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.

So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:25 am
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But who am I misreading then 🥺
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:21 am
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Oh and There’s probably always one in spf/Mac just purely due to numbers and thread dynamics and other people making themselves towny
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:50 am
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:33 am I feel like esooa is probably town because if sloonei randed mafia with Jay he would have tried harder
i agree
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:49 am
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cassandra wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:26 am
ilario wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:25 am
cassandra wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:23 am
ilario wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 am Is it wild that I’m thinking alexa Nutella and esooa can all be town?
from my point of view, yes? i could see myself misreading esooa but i think nutella is like very fucking obvious wolf at this point with her posts

the only reason im not voting is how tired i am and i had some wine so ya i need to rr in the morning
Okie lmk how you feel in the morning. I still think ur like 95% town and idk if this is how nutella would come into today in a world where ur town. Idk I could be wrong but her paranoia doesn’t seem implausible to me. I still think the scummiest thing nutella did all game was having me as a top town because jjj treated me very similarly. Other than, ehhh I have no gripes with Nutella.
95% wtf just say you don't have me as town at that point
huh? you still are by a fair margin. by 95% i mean im 95% certain ur out of scumrange lol.
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:46 am
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Fwiw I agree with esooa that the interactions between Mac and jjj aren’t clearing, they’re two good players, and off the cuff interactions like that are easy to fake.
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:42 am
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Naa calling my push on him amusing has changed my mind on him I think

/vote dizzy
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:27 am
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:23 am
ilario wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 am We should all stop fighting and turboyeet naa

1) he’s the “deciding” vote on a mafia (he wasn’t but let’s just pretend anyways
2) he cased someone d1
3) he’s explained his reads
4) he displayed empathy towards jjj and fellow players
5) has tried to caution the town from making bad plays and speed hammering
6) has made a poe that i can agree with

Yeah sure these look like reasons to indicate someone’s town, but not naa. The dude is completely out of his town range and is literally howling.
Am I crazy? Like I was very clearly the 7th vote in a 7-5 split, when I was previously voting with the 5... How is that not deciding?
Tbh the split was like 9-5 or 8-5 and me and bunny hopped off like clowns but if it ever looked like Anne was going over instead of jjj I woulda hopped back on him
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:25 am
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cassandra wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:23 am
ilario wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 am Is it wild that I’m thinking alexa Nutella and esooa can all be town?
from my point of view, yes? i could see myself misreading esooa but i think nutella is like very fucking obvious wolf at this point with her posts

the only reason im not voting is how tired i am and i had some wine so ya i need to rr in the morning
Okie lmk how you feel in the morning. I still think ur like 95% town and idk if this is how nutella would come into today in a world where ur town. Idk I could be wrong but her paranoia doesn’t seem implausible to me. I still think the scummiest thing nutella did all game was having me as a top town because jjj treated me very similarly. Other than, ehhh I have no gripes with Nutella.
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:23 am
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But yeah I do agree with naa that dizzy is probably scum, which is another point against naa ironically enough
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 am
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We should all stop fighting and turboyeet naa

1) he’s the “deciding” vote on a mafia (he wasn’t but let’s just pretend anyways
2) he cased someone d1
3) he’s explained his reads
4) he displayed empathy towards jjj and fellow players
5) has tried to caution the town from making bad plays and speed hammering
6) has made a poe that i can agree with

Yeah sure these look like reasons to indicate someone’s town, but not naa. The dude is completely out of his town range and is literally howling.
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 am
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Is it wild that I’m thinking alexa Nutella and esooa can all be town?
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:39 am
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iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:22 am anyway everyone give iaafr a hand for correctly identifying nutella town when she flips
her tone today seems okay, shes not a top priority for me
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:39 am
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iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:22 am anyway everyone give iaafr a hand for correctly identifying nutella town when she flips
her tone today seems okay, shes not a top priority for me
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 am
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Esooa wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:24 am is nutella the only person here with like good iaafr meta?

If that's true and he did falter on JJJ wolf EoD he's prob lock clear, very classic iaafr town move
I think I’ve played enough games with him to have a decent grasp of his game. He’s probs in my top 3 town, it makes no sense for him to swap off the jjj wagon onto a vanity wagon if he’s mafia because jjj was already dead at that point he may as well stay on and get towncred if he’s mafia
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:25 am
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:14 am I think we need to play the day out without hammering
theres seriously no way anyone whose ever played with naa can think this is a genuine thought from him. im sure everyones lost a game purely due to naa rushing the day and now suddenly hes being pro-town, yeah its all just fake.
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:22 am
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 am I'm actually shocked that anyone is throwing scum reads at me given the EoD vote... @Marmot please help me understand what they're doing, I am trying to be diplomatic here.
because ur scum lmfao, u dont give a rats ass about being diplomatic or casing people/explaining reads and youve done both of those things. and the whole empathy angle u tried to throw jjj yesterday is fake as shit too.
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:04 am
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U weren’t the deciding vote and it’s incredibly scummy for you to vote jjj despite opposing his elim that day and the fact that u even cased anne as mafia.
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:00 am
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Esooa wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:49 am
ilario wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:48 am Interesting....not the NK I was expecting which means...something
Your cat is uncomfortably zoomed in
Any better now?

Nook dying means there’s either a syndicater in the scum team that was worried of him orrr someone widely trd has been miscleared
by ilario
Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:48 am
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Interesting....not the NK I was expecting which means...something
by ilario
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:59 pm
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Cfd wilgy / vote wilgy
by ilario
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:59 pm
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Jjj wagon was too easy to start compared to wilgy
by ilario
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:58 pm
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If I vote wilgy will people switch in time
by ilario
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:58 pm
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Anyone but anne, theres 3 super sus people that have been parked on her: wilgy, jjj, naa
by ilario
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:57 pm
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Ugh I want drwilgy again
by ilario
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:57 pm
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Wait leetic if it’s not similar why are we voting jjj lmak

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