The Syndicate

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:31 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:26 pm LinearPoint - Dependent on alexa's alignment

how so? Don't really see how protecting a Town or protecting a Mafia are different.
All it would mean if Alexa flips Mafia would be that she lied about being shot by mafia.

imo if alexa flips town you're likely town and if alexa flips wolf you're likely wolf.

everyone should just be operating/solving in a world where i'm town


i literally got poisoned by a malicious third party who wilded out on me despite townreading me yesterday, it doesn't make sense. illario just wanted me dead

Chopping a wolf is obviously better. but as I know for a fact that illario is not achieving his proclaimed "win con" after today, I worry about what other powers he has and how the unknown can fuck us up.

Maybe Sloonei is not mafia

Or at least, I don't really think I see much of an agenda behind his recent posting

@Belzy, why are you convinced?

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:48 pm Maybe Sloonei is not mafia

Or at least, I don't really think I see much of an agenda behind his recent posting

@Belzy, why are you convinced?

And by recent I mean on review of the last couple pages

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:50 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:49 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:48 pm Maybe Sloonei is not mafia

Or at least, I don't really think I see much of an agenda behind his recent posting

@Belzy, why are you convinced?

And by recent I mean on review of the last couple pages

What has been your general perception of me as this game has progressed?

Early game I was reading you as town under the misconception that you didn't effort really as wolf after Philo Mafia 2, but that was corrected. I then was pinged by your dynamic with C4 in a way that made me feel like GTH it was W/V, however, as it went on and as C4's own read on you developed (which I respect) I was highly leaning toward V/V.

In general I've found your play to be agenda-less, it feels like you are trying to sort through a POE/actively work to solve the game and generally on a similar page to me. However, due to the narrow mechanical POE, i've just POE'd you without really reading you as scum at any point.

[VOTE: PAO] aubergine

temptation to keep vote on illario is high, but this is fine

Most people who can top post as villagers can do so as wolf as well imo

Idk, I would still like to kill Paopan before Creaturre

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:30 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:28 pm Most people who can top post as villagers can do so as wolf as well imo

Then why did you ask if I was volume cleared earlier?

Because of the most* people part. I didn't know if you could from experience. I've seen creature do it

Also I wasn't aware Sloonei was top posting?

I more so wondered if he just completely slanked as wolf. Some people are like that

I don't understand why Paopan keeps calling himself confirmed town protective looking at his ISO. He is not confirmed at all, LP is more confirmed.


@Paopan, who did you target each night?


I don't see the harm in outing that

Paopan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:12 am Now you all see this?
I told you Belzy is scum since day 1.

Her "too towny" attitude disappeared. She's on the hunt now

IDGI. Belzy is confirmed town to me. So are LP and Porcha. There literally can not be 4 wolves - you would have to have the wolf team as Belzy/Porscha/me/LP for Belzy to be a wolf and that's impossible.

The scummiest thing about Sloonei is him claiming self-confirmable today tbh. That feels like something I've seen wolves do so many times at this stage and I highly doubt it's true.

If it doesn't have to do with your actual role, I don't see the point in hiding it then?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:24 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:19 pm If it doesn't have to do with your actual role, I don't see the point in hiding it then?

It does have to do with my role.

okay

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:39 pm hi can someone tell me whats going on?

i am poisoned by illario (who hardclaimed 3P) and dying at the end of the day. illario claims his wincon is to shoot 2 wolves which is bullshit - him targeting me if he's non-malicious doesn't make sense, so kill him tomorrow.

right now im operating at

Town/Mech Town
alexa
Belzy
Porscha
LinearPoint
dyachei
falcon


3P
Illario

POE
sabie12
JPIC
Sloonei
Paopan
Creature
Wilgy

so W/E, 3 wolves in bottom, just hope illario doesn't fuck everything up tonight. i want paopan to die the most today. JPIC/Creature/Sloonei have been towniest in POE but like, probably has a wolf in that trio

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:43 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:39 pm hi can someone tell me whats going on?

Alexa was poisoned by ilario. Ilario claims 3p and allegedly believes Alexa is mafia. He might be right.

Meanwhile we’re trying to decide between Creature, sabie, and paopan for today’s chop. Wilgy is a fringe candidate as well. I have been discussed, but that seems to have subsided.

he isn't right and he's a really cunning player so i'm honestly scared he has some power tonight that will be devastating for town

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:48 pm why are we believing 3p?

no idea. i'm ensuring people don't let him skate by after my flip lol, he just poisoned a top towny and is trying to justify it. but i'm poisoned and apparently dying EOD and he claims that if i'm mafia he's met his "wincon of killing 2 wolves and will leave the game" but i'm, obviously not mafia

just so you all know, illario pushes me like this every single game we are V/V and it should not be given real merit regardless. i know i'm dying anyway but lol, i just want to be considered town until then

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:54 pm just so you all know, illario pushes me like this every single game we are V/V and it should not be given real merit regardless. i know i'm dying anyway but lol, i just want to be considered town until then

i think him being 3P is making him go harder at it and more ruthless though

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:57 pm i think I saw that because it was before i had the kid?

yeah but he just randomly started tunneling me again and poisoned me last night



also hope all is well with the kid <3

what is their name

illario, this is why it's hurtful

1. if i am town and you think i'm scum, then you had no reason to approach the game the way you have. you've just tunneled me day after day, even after coming around on me, and said things that have made me feel like shit about my town game and like you know i'm insecure about that stuff. with the wincon you have said you have, there is no valid/explainable reason for you to approach me the way you have this game

2. even if you think i'm scum/even if i was scum, and you have the wincon you say you have, the way you're approaching me id still see as messed up. you think i'm part of a scum team who is chosen so are like "i'm 3P and petty so i'm going to hard townside against you?" scum me would be like, 'that's messed up, it's clearly not me who chose a team if a team was chosen. there's 3 scum left and you targeting me as 3P' - i would perceive as complete bullshit after everything this game


if you were town, it'd be different.



but you are either mafia or 3P who shot your partner for no reason. either way, it is bullshit.

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:36 pm illario, this is why it's hurtful

1. if i am town and you think i'm scum, then you had no reason to approach the game the way you have. you've just tunneled me day after day, even after coming around on me, and said things that have made me feel like shit about my town game and like you know i'm insecure about that stuff. with the wincon you have said you have, there is no valid/explainable reason for you to approach me the way you have this game

2. even if you think i'm scum/even if i was scum, and you have the wincon you say you have, the way you're approaching me id still see as messed up. you think i'm part of a scum team who is chosen so are like "i'm 3P and petty so i'm going to hard townside against you?" scum me would be like, 'that's messed up, it's clearly not me who chose a team if a team was chosen. there's 3 scum left and you targeting me as 3P' - i would perceive as complete bullshit after everything this game


if you were town, it'd be different.



but you are either 3P or mafia who shot your partner for no reason. either way, it is bullshit.

EBWOP

but yeah i was shaking with anger at you last night and im trying to calm down

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:24 pm Reading early Day 3, I actually think Alexa has the worst looking opening and progression that phase. Which makes me feel less anxious about the poison thing.

please explain

GGs. I got frustrated w/this game mainly because this was a challenging roll power-role wise for us to play with 2 goons + a negative-utility role + a 1-shot role cop + a vig we had to use on ourselves + a bpv + a 2-shot tracker VS. all the extra powers town had and the town-sided 3P joats, and then we ended up having dya loverized to sabie as a "prize." We attempted to kill ilario and missed.

The only thing I regret though is LP tying themselves to me, but I mis-interpreted my role and thought I could only die from being chopped.

Thanks for putting this together. I enjoyed day 1.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:39 pm How did the soup mechanics work? How much info did the mafia team have about all the roles?

not much. we had a n0 result on a random player (was on nutella) as an exchange for having to kill someone in our faction (dya's loyal day vig). we then used dizzy's 1-shot rolecop on belzy because we figured belzy+porscha were linked

then we only had the info town shared, so we figured falcon was town JOAT. i think we speculated on you being the gift giver, but it was a risky soup

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:50 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:39 pm How did the soup mechanics work? How much info did the mafia team have about all the roles?

not much. we had a n0 result on a random player (was on nutella) as an exchange for having to kill someone in our faction (dya's loyal day vig). we then used dizzy's 1-shot rolecop on belzy because we figured belzy+porscha were linked

then we only had the info town shared, so we figured falcon was town JOAT. i think we speculated on you being the gift giver, but it was a risky soup

yeah syn posted the soup in spec chat. It failed because dya had me as the gift giver.

Why did you think I was that?

dya received an immunity ability on n1.

"Cuirass of the Savior’s Hide

You have received an item! It is the Cuirass of the Savior’s Hide. While you possess this item, you are immune to any non-lethal negative actions taken against you. This includes kill modifiers, but not kills themselves. You will be told if/when you lose possession of this item."

you softed that you were self-clearing in some way + i looked and you were the creator of a game that used a similar ability (and we were aware roles were assigned to people, not randomized) + you were reading dya as town. i dunno, it was really just speculation so i'm surprised they went for the soup with that with only 1 scum left. but, dya didn't have much time to play and was loverized to sabie so i can totally understand wanting to take a leap, i just would've erred on the more cautious side