The Syndicate

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:41 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:40 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:37 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:37 pm i'm starting to think we were actually just bad btw and bottom text might just be v

what changed ur mind

was it openwolf post #1, openwolf post #2, openwolf post #3...

if you talked less this tentative v read might persist...

it was somewhat coming from the mindset that mana might just be a wolf after all. it also wasn't like i haven't seen villagery things from you in moments; i even made a post earlier today giving you a townread for how you came around to my slot in a way that it felt anti-wincon for you to do as a wolf. there were other times where i did think you were villagery too, like on d1! i mean it's tentative. we'll see.

you mean the day you tied us for the yeet?

HEY DONT PRETEND TO BE ME

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:40 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:37 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:37 pm i'm starting to think we were actually just bad btw and bottom text might just be v

what changed ur mind

was it openwolf post #1, openwolf post #2, openwolf post #3...

if you talked less this tentative v read might persist...

it was somewhat coming from the mindset that mana might just be a wolf after all. it also wasn't like i haven't seen villagery things from you in moments; i even made a post earlier today giving you a townread for how you came around to my slot in a way that it felt anti-wincon for you to do as a wolf. there were other times where i did think you were villagery too, like on d1! i mean it's tentative. we'll see.

you mean the day you tied us for the yeet?

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:40 pm if you talked less this tentative v read might persist...

u have more posts than me

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:39 pm BT, would you ever vote Poop?

probably not

there's like 1% of me that agrees with vanitys "if theres 3 wolves, Poop is always a wolf" take and think we can just vote them out to be safe

but 99% of me is like "but theyre town"

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:37 pm i'm starting to think we were actually just bad btw and bottom text might just be v

what changed ur mind

was it openwolf post #1, openwolf post #2, openwolf post #3...

if mana is a villager please turbo alison/nutella tomorrow, btw

this is my early legacy before i forget to post it

esooas at work btw

i plan on relaying stuff to her but she proooobably wont show up

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:32 pm It's worth noting that if i'm town my teammate has never tried to defend me, meaning my teammate has to be someone who's not getting any sus. That leaves Julinook, Toop and boop, and AH. Do we really think the team is Mana/JN Mana/T&B or Mana/AH more than anyone else?

Even if you think i'm bad, as many people have pointed out, most other scum candidates can't be scum with me. Voting me as the "obvious" candidate takes for granted that my teammate is deep, and I don't think we're playing a deep wolf game. Do y'all?

probably NAI

but lol

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:31 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:29 pm esooa says that readslist doesn't change her mind on the slot at all but isn't egregious

what is esooas mind on our slot

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:31 pm someone say if cap is lifted or not

p sure it is

otherwise im dumb

esooa says that readslist doesn't change her mind on the slot at all but isn't egregious

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:28 pm Bottom Text - did I see correctly that they rescinded their original claim of being redirector? did they offer a new claim after that? Kinda very sus

no lol

do you have an actual read on us

mana is obv town but im gonna hammer them if they hit L-1 and then boast in endgame when i lived despite openwolfing

cool?

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:22 pm [VOTE: Bottom Text] aubergine

theyll never think we're w/w now <3

nightkill me so obvwolf nutella can endgame

why was my first instinct to fake a quickhammer

what the fuck katze

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:03 pm Zzzz who eod

hi

its close enough that im gonna stop caring about postcount

awoo

trans rights wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:40 pm toopy & binoo
trans rights
honey & vinegar
akemi
mana
julinook

it seems one of these votes has vote manipulation done to them

p sure this is the 6 names that voted falcon the first time they were "hammered", to which JSPIC was the actual-hammering vote iirc?

im just now realizing "wow there's probably 1-2 wolves in this list" when it's like, basically every alive player that isn't me doesn't tell me much

lol

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 3:50 pm I am beginning to get concerned that BT's weird hydra dissonance on me where Esooa says my slot is an easy townread and katze keeps emphasizing that she scumreads us but refuses to actually push it because Esooa tells her not to is setting up for a push on us tomorrow. It's a janky way to treat us and I'm having trouble finding the town motivation for katze constantly saying "I think Akemi is scum but I won't push her".

okay im gonna stop realtiming to preserve posts from here on out

but i don't see the problem with... expressing my opinion, while acknowledging that when i asked esooa "are you confident enough in akemi V for me to sheep this and not tunnel it" she told me yes

am i saying it too much? yeah, probably, because i still think it

and people are like "hmmmm what if im MISCLEARING someone" and im like an energetic kitten saying "ITS AKEMI ITS AKEMI AAAAAAA" while being head back and given headpats by esooa before i can scratch the shit out of you

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 3:48 pm i do think i've been slightly oblivious to literally any world of 3 today but the problem is is that poop explosions has to be a wolf if we are looking at a world of 3, and i really doubt that's the case.

agree

dana if you're a villager please raise your hand, put a spoon on your head, and write towny posts

thx, love u

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 3:39 pm am i wrong on akemi? am i wrong on poop explosions? am i wrong on toopy and binoo? i don't fricking know. i've been trying to escape this mindset that these are 3 villagers for the entire dayphase to see if there's some possibility that i'm missing, but... everything lines up with them just being village.

i mean i personally think you're wrong on akemi, esooa disagrees with enough confidence that instead of tunneling it like i wish to i choose to remind people constantly about this contrarian read

but i'm a broken record and frankly i'm wasting posts i mean, unless i pretend i don't remember how many posts i started this phase with and just listen to dunya which would give me like 100 more posts, im choosing to Not do that to its full extent

regarding you mentioning us/JSPIC

i obviously don't think im W/W with them but my read on them is... complicated

me and esooa read through their posts some last night (well, she was catching up, and i specifically isoed them) and we both kinda agreed their interactions with TaT were (she noted #1359, i noted a post slightly later than that by TaT feeling really awkward, too lazy to find em right now and idk how to/if i can link to postnums here)

but she was less of a fan of their actual posting where i found their D1 pretty natural/freeflowy which to my understanding is something they're not great at replicating as a wolf? not sure

we'd probably have a stronger stance if we both didn't kinda just handshake at "lol mana W" although my gut is like "but what if" and my heart/soul/brain/etc are like "mana w tho"

hello fellow "not w/w with mana"ers

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 3:01 pm I've decided that nutella is town and doing trademark town nutella bad arguments and I'm less sure on alison.
this is my last post but I've called it so I have other things to say
I don't /really/ think it's nanook and mana tbh. I did think it was when jpic presented it to me earlier and I saw nanook's reaction in the thread which I think is generally nanook's reaction to pressure as a wolf (and also as town sometimes) but eh not really feeling it.
what else.
POE is stupid it's not a reason to read someone, our claim is objectively towny in nature and if you think otherwise your name is probably nutella or you're confbiasing.
mac should solve the game for me.
I think van is probably just town, that's not a tinfoil spot for me rn. Maybe it is for the other head. Gav is town and I'm gonna say so until he gets nightkilled. On policy, if we get to 4 person mylo with gav, chop there instead of waiting. I can't read kat and am not going to try but I think esooa's been towny. Yeah that's all.

-tsp

judging by the fact you're voting mana, i assume that "I don't /really/ think it's nanook and mana tbh" means you don't think they're W/W, not that you don't think either are?

so let me lay this post out from your pov so i can understand it better


TonyStarkPlaysItCool

trans rights ("probably just town")
Toopy and Binoo ("town, but policy in F4(???)")

Akemi Hazelnut ("nutella is town, less sure on Alison" -- might be in the tier above?)
Bottom Text ("I can't read kat and am not going to try but I think esooa's been towny")
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Poop Explosions (no mention at all)
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Julinook/Mana (not W/W?)




im not quite sure how far behind these thoughts i can get

do you think the team is {Nook/Mana} + Poop + TaT? thats the best i can really decipher from this

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 11:35 am

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 11:32 am

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 10:46 am i kinda think that bottom text suddenly saying they think i'm a probably just a villager at this point is villagery in the same way mac thinks i'm a villager for my read on them. it's the same sense that they're anti-agenda. if bottom text is a wolf, i'm essentially a necessary misdefenestrate

except it's potentially a better look for bottom text as opposed to mac's read on me because poop explosions is in no one's poe and at this point i'm in a lot of poe's

also mornin mist

-azumarill

bold of you to assume im not pocketing you so i can misyeet nutella/alison instead

if you're a wolf you should know that pocketing me is completely pointless because you're not escaping my poe

i have no counterarguments but i wish i did

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 10:46 am i kinda think that bottom text suddenly saying they think i'm a probably just a villager at this point is villagery in the same way mac thinks i'm a villager for my read on them. it's the same sense that they're anti-agenda. if bottom text is a wolf, i'm essentially a necessary misdefenestrate

except it's potentially a better look for bottom text as opposed to mac's read on me because poop explosions is in no one's poe and at this point i'm in a lot of poe's

also mornin mist

-azumarill

bold of you to assume im not pocketing you so i can misyeet nutella/alison instead

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 10:55 am You do realize what that meant in context back when I said it right?

yes, im well aware

i'm poking fun at it as a joke but also saying it legitimately




also good morning

okay im gonna stop wasting posts on shit like that

if you'd like to ask me about our EoD1 posts i'd be happy to answer although there's high odds you'll hate my answers

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 10:36 pm iirc really felt like bt's posts were outing at the time

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 10:25 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 10:23 pm

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Bottom Text
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24%
Voters: Akemi Hazelnut, Mana, trans rights, TwoAndThrough

Mana
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18%
Voters: Julinook, TonyStarkPlaysItCool, Poop Explosions

TonyStarkPlaysItCool
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6%
Voters: The Walrus

TwoAndThrough
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24%
Voters: Timsup2gettinserious, Toopy and Binoo, Honey & Vinegar, Bottom Text

unvote
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6%
Voters: FalconKnows

sleep
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Voters: None

if i add some ~personal flair~ onto this

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Bottom Text
4
24%
Voters: Akemi Hazelnut, Mana, trans rights, TwoAndThrough

Mana
3
18%
Voters: Julinook, TonyStarkPlaysItCool, Poop Explosions

TonyStarkPlaysItCool
1
6%
Voters: The Walrus

TwoAndThrough
4
24%
Voters: Timsup2gettinserious, Toopy and Binoo, Honey & Vinegar, Bottom Text

unvote
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6%
Voters: FalconKnows

sleep
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No votes
Voters: None

i haven't a clue on the two uncolored names, tbh. the darker ones are less confident, the colors here are a bit annoying to use consistently but poop>toopy>transrights to make it clearer

if esooa wasn't at calling mana a wolf i'd probably have moved them up tho, tbh. my gut was having second thoughts there, still might cause shes a coward and will listen to me if i say it loud enough, but it's an unsubstantiated gutread so thats not likely

tbh, it's probably one in nutellason/mana and one in julinook/jspic but im just a little joycat tbh

pretend this was written in cool fancy transparent text i couldnt think of a funny image to layer it over

wait...did TR not end the day on T&T???

if i add some ~personal flair~ onto this i haven't a clue on the two uncolored names, tbh. the darker ones are less confident, the colors here are a bit annoying to use consistently but poop>toopy>transrights to make it clearer

if esooa wasn't at calling mana a wolf i'd probably have moved them up tho, tbh. my gut was having second thoughts there, still might cause shes a coward and will listen to me if i say it loud enough, but it's an unsubstantiated gutread so thats not likely

tbh, it's probably one in nutellason/mana and one in julinook/jspic but im just a little joycat tbh

pretend this was written in cool fancy transparent text i couldnt think of a funny image to layer it over

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:35 pm so why did katzesooa trend up for people

~mawile

I've read enough I don't care about doing more mana is wolfy af

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:43 pm Can we flip Bottom Text?

lol wtf are these posts

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:16 pm Mac I think it was had a towny post. TaT's EoD1 was weird but I'm not sure what to make of it. I liked TR 2-3 hours before EoD but the last hour of EoD they kinda did nothing and voting me over TaT too. Still generally think it's okay though? And they said they were going to be busy during the last hour so yeah.

TSPIC's wasn't good but he did vote Mana after they did that self pres thing, and if they've been pushing Mana a lot I'll need to look into it more

Julinook didn't do a ton, they pushed Mac a lot, who is probably town? But I think the way they went about it wasn't scummy. Want to know what Mac/c4 think of the way Julinook treated them day 1 though.

Like I thought it was kinda weird they pushed Mac so much and this is worse if TaT is wolf but idk, I didn't feel too bad about it

I'm actually remembering now they pushed TaT a lot through the dayphase so them ending on me is really weird/concerning considering that

@trans rights did you really think we were more wolfy than TaT EoD1? Why? How?

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:21 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:16 pm Julinook didn't do a ton, they pushed Mac a lot, who is probably town? But I think the way they went about it wasn't scummy. Want to know what Mac/c4 think of the way Julinook treated them day 1 though.

The vast majority of our posts were from me at the time, so knowing my record I just thought "someone who's had limited experience with me is misreading me wowee". Mostly ignored it because jules was super towny in her three or so posts. Is this Esooa?

yes

Bottom Text
4
24%
Voters: Akemi Hazelnut, Mana, trans rights, TwoAndThrough

I forgot to talk about Akemi. Their EoD was uh, awful? Same with their vote. I think it's really, uh, *interesting* how everyone with bad EoD's voted us lmao. TSPIC could have kept a vote on us here to push us over rather than it being TaT so that's good I think. They were on Mana:
I feel like as Mac has pointed out that with TaT's wagon being so pure, then my wagon being SOO bad too looking at it, that TaT was probably a wolf

Not sure how much I want to solve around that though

It gives me less confidence in TSPIC being a wolf and more in Mana being a wolf, though.

I'm going to read more and see how I feel about Akemi/TR after that but I'm showering first

Mac I think it was had a towny post. TaT's EoD1 was weird but I'm not sure what to make of it. I liked TR 2-3 hours before EoD but the last hour of EoD they kinda did nothing and voting me over TaT too. Still generally think it's okay though? And they said they were going to be busy during the last hour so yeah.

TSPIC's wasn't good but he did vote Mana after they did that self pres thing, and if they've been pushing Mana a lot I'll need to look into it more

Julinook didn't do a ton, they pushed Mac a lot, who is probably town? But I think the way they went about it wasn't scummy. Want to know what Mac/c4 think of the way Julinook treated them day 1 though.

Like I thought it was kinda weird they pushed Mac so much and this is worse if TaT is wolf but idk, I didn't feel too bad about it

Mana's EoD1 is legit awful. Worst EoD out of everyone in the game by so much

[VOTE: mana] aubergine

I'm here. Time to read I guess

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:10 pm Bottom Text has fallen into a hole today in terms of solving and has just been shit posting and talking about how town they are.

i don't think this is entirely accurate but im also not really sure what to say anymore

i feel like everything is wrong and while i still think it just means nutella/alison is a wolf im promising myself to not pursue that today unless i can make a logical case for it

and i know i won't do that

this entire gamethread is a fucking mech talk and im not really a fan of it right now

cue vanity saying "oh katze mechanics" but no, this is beyond that really

combine this all with general "being busier today" and "holy shit we've posted way too much today lets conserve our posts" and yeah, idk what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. call it wolfy, idc.

maybe mana is a villager, i don't know. im still waiting for more from them so i can send esooa on that.

your slots my most confident townread at this point. after that it's a bit of a warzone. maybe you're pocketing me, but that only really makes sense if you plan to do some sorta tier 180 on me tomorrow or if this is a 3 wolf world. because im undeniably the easiest slot to ML right now. i have little going for me, and a lot against me.

idk anymore, man

game hard.

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:10 pm if there's any reason for any of toopy and binoo/akemi/poop explosions to be a wolf, i need to hear it because otherwise i'm stuck solving wise. i'm considering poop explosions but i'm struggling to come to a conclusion on them that dmakes me think they're a wolf. i also don't really think julinook is a wolf gth.

i should also prob stop posting because i have less than 100 posts till cap lol

i still think nutella is a wolf but i promised esooa id sheep her V read there

i also need to stop posting

i will do that too

wolfy popout

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:13 pm Watcher is more commonly a scum role is decidedly not my experience lol

my experience differs

town watcher is absurdly strong, arguably as strong/stronger than alignment cop

but shrugze

im just

dipping

wolfily

pce

watcher is like

definitely more commonly a mafia role

it being allegedly one shot is the only reason its not super wolfy by itself

town tracker+town watcher is a thing im considering just because its funny, tbh. it's the reason i guessed akemi as a tracker

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:00 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:46 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:42 pm a village roleblocker and a village jailkeeper both existing in a 13er?

mist said that she thinks this is unlikely to be v/v and i'm inclined to agree

i wonder if a wolf would just claim something else though... idk.

i mean since the nanosecond nooks claimed ive thought it was fake but they said the role was more common here

shrugze

fuck mech, knowing my role is real annoys me because i feel like i can probably mechsolve shit but im not happy with any result i end up with

its a closed setup i guess there could be curveballs, idk how in character it is for dunya but i know it is for me

i'm still utterly baffled how katze has this mindset. it's almost to the point where it might be villagery for them just because i feel like they would know how they talked to me in the kidnapper chat in cov about how they like mech solving games.

im like 90% sure i never explicitly said i liked doing it and instead tried to do it because i thought something was fucky with claims, if i said i liked it then lolkatze

i also like

unless all 3 wolves are in in the 4 other people claiming Vaguely Similar Classes to me then im still confused as shit, hence me not liking what im coming up with

im not convinced that isnt the same head but i'll let them do their thing and summon my guard dog esooa to determine alignments

okay i dont want to keep posting because im scared mana is a villager and tspic is a wolf and im getting joyed on but i too want to gang up on mana

like i know i said mana was an outted wolf yesterday but cmon

i said id give you time for your other head to show up and now ur like doing complete 180s at every avenue what the heck man i thouht we had somethging ://

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:44 pm terrible read BUT

if two and through/bottom text/tspic are all wolves then i've played way too well this game, and i'm horrible at villaging

maybe this is a stupid reason to doubt myself but it's still causing me to think i'm being snowed

LMAO

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:44 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:43 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:42 pm BT is prob always a hit here tbh It's probably BT/TsPIc or BT/Poop

always a hit?

tell me more

A hit with the ladies knowmsayin

i feel like bar the joycat tier tunneling that's relatively typical to a katze game ive been like, the most reasonable player in thread since D2

this means i must be a wolf

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:42 pm BT is prob always a hit here tbh It's probably BT/TsPIc or BT/Poop

always a hit?

tell me more

i feel like im in antispew mode but im a villager

what has this game bcome