The Syndicate

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:18 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:17 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:16 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:13 pm I think pushing me/mac as partners is a borderline outing perspective

Like pushing a team of me tat and Mac with how long I stayed on Mac d1 and the eod vc is just

Its not really a team that exists, but tpic are forced into pushing it if they're mafia cause they can't afford to have me and Mac find each other and the other town find us

So yeah basically this is a world that doesn't make sense to push as town but he almost has to as mafia

it's not me blame jpic

Thats maybe less outing but

Still probably outing

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:18 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:16 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

we only vote tspic if we're like 100% sure and i'm not tbh

I want to lock clear you for this

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:16 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

we only vote tspic if we're like 100% sure and i'm not tbh

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:16 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:13 pm I think pushing me/mac as partners is a borderline outing perspective

Like pushing a team of me tat and Mac with how long I stayed on Mac d1 and the eod vc is just

Its not really a team that exists, but tpic are forced into pushing it if they're mafia cause they can't afford to have me and Mac find each other and the other town find us

So yeah basically this is a world that doesn't make sense to push as town but he almost has to as mafia

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:16 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:14 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:13 pm Mac has obviously left his wolf range by a mile
nut has obviously left her wolf range by a mile
Jpic has obviously left his wolf range by a mile

Yeah fsr I think people are putting too much stock in ranges.

Is this C4? You haven't played with me as a wolf

I've seen someone who has played with you as a wolf lock you town for being out of your wolf range when you were playing like this.

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:14 pm Calling Nook "caught" for that post is hilarious

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:14 pm Calling Nook "caught" for that post is hilarious

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:13 pm Mac has obviously left his wolf range by a mile
nut has obviously left her wolf range by a mile
Jpic has obviously left his wolf range by a mile

Yeah fsr I think people are putting too much stock in ranges.

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:12 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:11 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

I hate this post so much.

GTH wolves are nook/poop

I mean you have to push this line so

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:11 pm help people townread me now i was supposed to come into today in the hotseat after mana flipped v

im scared

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:05 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:05 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:04 pm I seriously think I left my wolf range back in day 1. Like I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

continuously repeating this will not make you more villagery.

I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

you could just read my posts, you know. is my reasoning for why i think you're a wolf that esoteric?

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:05 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:04 pm I seriously think I left my wolf range back in day 1. Like I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

continuously repeating this will not make you more villagery.

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:04 pm gth i think it's tspic/akemi

poop explosions should just be v at this point. if we're trusting his nanook clear (which i think has validity to it) and the d1 wagon suggests bottom text is v, that's the only names left.

sure akemi did push on tspic but it always seemed like there were bigger targets akemi was gunning for

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 2:55 pm it's villagery cause jpic wanted to vote on it it's not actually villagery

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:57 am

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:56 am Other head, they want to mischop us instead

actually i’ve been advocating for sleep all day.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:51 pm actually why did tsp say the sleeping was wolfy. if your hydra has a roleblock you should want to sleep, no?

like sure if we defenestrate a wolf thats not you you can get a green check but that seems like a pipe dream

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:28 pm Anyway, i am mobile posting so i am being as brief as I can because I don’t have a lot of time. I was saying T&T was a wolf. BT was the counterwagon who was likely town because probability. I don’t think it’s bad to make educated guesses or assumptions such that is sort of the name of the game. I thought mana was likelier to be a wolf over BT again because a) i read them as a wolf and they were voting BT alongside T&T and b) their wagon was built up in a villagery way because of the snap voting based on a post made by mana. From my perspective, I see no reason why neither you or ak can be a wolf who wanted BT to go over instead.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:35 pm asdf

again. for the umpteenth time. i tried voting two and through at eod and votes locked before my switch was processed. my gameplay doesn't suggest that i "wanted" bottom text to go over as opposed to two and through on d1.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:16 pm i guess it's somewhat because if toopy and binoo wasnt nk'd then they would be our "hardclear", therefore we would vote because otherwise we just know toopy would die in the night

but thats's assuming that sleeping is doing what the wolves want us to do, which... seems like a stretch.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:13 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 9:51 pm don't hammer sleep today

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 9:55 pm gav getting killed means sleeping is wolfy

come on... how does this make sense. like, let's assume toopy and binoo doesn't get nk'd; what's actually the difference? all it does is narrow down the pool for who could be powerwolfing. this essentially applies to any of the nightkills that could've happened. this is basic.

and sleeping is mechanically correct here. we have no hardclears. the only thing we know is julinook's action for sure happened. whether that's a village action or not... shrug. we basically just force wolves to kill one of the "powerwolfing candidates" by sleeping. it makes perfect sense.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:08 pm then tell me how your vca extends beyond throwing darts at a dartboard

and yes you were the hammer on falconknows. check eod2.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:06 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:03 pm It’s a game of probability. What do i think is more likely w/t or w/w? I go with w/t

I agree that the mana wagon was more villagery because of how rapid and the votes were purely off a snap read from something mana said. BT had a wagon i think constantly through the entire day iirc

are you unironically telling me you randomly guessed that bottom text was a villager and mana was a wolf?

bruh.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:00 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:48 am I don’t think i have ever seen my partner get annoyed.

imo the kill strongly suggests at least one powerwolf. Also, the fact that the PoE has mischopped two townies and y’all want to kill a third means the towncore is rotten to the core

oh come on this is total nonsense. we essentially defenestrated 2 lhf in a row, and now we basically don't have any lhf left. so your mind immediately goes to "zomg powerwolfing!!!". which, yeah, there's a wolf right now that's playing very well. i'm having a hard time even crafting a world right now that i actually believe. purely off of my reads, my mind is going to tspic/julinook, but that doesn't really make sense. someone is crushing it for sure. but there's NOTHING about falconknows or mana's alignment that is indicative of yours. in fact, you voted both of them; one was a hammer obviously, for further context. so how can you actually argue that you're about to get powerwolfed when you very well have contributed to the wolves wincon?

i mean, i have. i thought falconknows and mana were wolfy at some point. here's the catch though: most of us did. the only person i can think of who didn't push either of these two was bottom text, and you might not have pushed falconknows that hard. but this really isn't an argument for or against anyone. the only thing you're doing is deflecting off of yourself when the fact is that these two have flipped v doesn't make you look better or worse than anyone else.

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:28 pm In the unlikely scenario that we had W/W wagons d1, then from my perspective the only pairing that makes sense is nook/poop due to joining the Mana wagon.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 4:44 pm like i can come to the conclusion now that the wagon + game state during eod1is a good look for bottom text but only now that i know two and through was for sure a wolf and mana was v

coming to that conclusion without that information is a little ????

anyways brb

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:27 pm i feel like we're on track to not sleeping here with how much you nerds are doing

also the general mentality of reads on our slot this game has been funky

i want off this rollercoaster

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:00 am

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:48 am I don’t think i have ever seen my partner get annoyed.

imo the kill strongly suggests at least one powerwolf. Also, the fact that the PoE has mischopped two townies and y’all want to kill a third means the towncore is rotten to the core

There is no towncore in this game. This game has not been operating with POE or towncore principles, there are simply players. In fact there is not even all that much discrepancy between the post counts. I do appreciate how much it benefits you as a wolf to speak as though you are a sad lil poe being victimised by the towncore though.

There has been no operating consensus that I have felt a part of in this game at all with the sole exception of Akemi and myself clearing each other (which I am now feeling like I was wrong about and have them as a wolf).

There is zero logic to your train of thought. You are using far too much flowery adjectives (bolded). Everything you are doing here is designed to manipulate and sew paranoia.

The towncore is not rotten to the core. There is however probably at least 1 wolf that is efforting sure let's go with that.

You feel extremely similarly clamped and are playing similarly to you did in the last wolf game that you got flipped as a wolf in a similar position frankly. You are not solving you are just gesturing to solve. You are not exercising discretion you are making statements.

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:23 am

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:48 am

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:38 am all you have managed to do if ppl are able to follow logic, is create a third dichotomy between you and I and effectively clear Nanook, except you've done so in a more agenda driven way than me and I am clearly townier than you ergo you've confirmed yourself mafia

We towntold back in d2

yeah that's right (what did we do again)

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:48 am

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:38 am all you have managed to do if ppl are able to follow logic, is create a third dichotomy between you and I and effectively clear Nanook, except you've done so in a more agenda driven way than me and I am clearly townier than you ergo you've confirmed yourself mafia

We towntold back in d2

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:00 am flowery adjectives (bolded)