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- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Sat May 15, 2021 7:11 pm
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we were afraid tsp would block one of the kills and we'd still have to play f5, we had made the plan to sleep at f6 and use the vig and weren't expecting them to claim another shot at that point so it feels good it worked lol
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Fri May 14, 2021 3:17 pm
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TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:11 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm
Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot
I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.
So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)
I hate this post so much.
GTH wolves are nook/poop
this would be mega lolnutella world
which means it's probably true
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Fri May 14, 2021 3:16 pm
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Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm
Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot
I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.
So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)
we only vote tspic if we're like 100% sure and i'm not tbh
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Fri May 14, 2021 3:14 pm
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trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:06 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:03 pm
i mean since i've made a point of a you/bt dichotomy i dont know if you pseudo clearing bt is reverse psychology or what
i at least agree with you that tspic is most likely a wolf i'm just concerned that you fit with him more than anyone but bt
reverse... psychology? my point was that if mana was a v, and if wolves didn't seem like they cared who went over on d1, which seems decently likely based on how the votes turned out, that that wouldn't make sense in a game state where bottom text is on the chopping block. two and through/bottom text being the top wagons if they're both wolves means wolves have every reason to care.
wait
okay i'm confused now
you're saying if tat/bt were w/w, wolves would have made mana go over
ok i get that i guess
they'd still care between bt/tat?? no?
i think the wall made sense when i read it the first time but now i'm wondering if your logic is biased by tmi
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Fri May 14, 2021 3:09 pm
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trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:04 pm
gth i think it's tspic/akemi
poop explosions should just be v at this point. if we're trusting his nanook clear (which i think has validity to it) and the d1 wagon suggests bottom text is v, that's the only names left.
sure akemi did push on tspic but it always seemed like there were bigger targets akemi was gunning for
ah yes my "progression" on tspic fits your narrative pretty well huh
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Fri May 14, 2021 3:03 pm
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i mean since i've made a point of a you/bt dichotomy i dont know if you pseudo clearing bt is reverse psychology or what
i at least agree with you that tspic is most likely a wolf i'm just concerned that you fit with him more than anyone but bt
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Fri May 14, 2021 2:59 pm
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trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 2:53 pm
TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:03 pm
It’s a game of probability. What do i think is more likely w/t or w/w? I go with w/t
I agree that the mana wagon was more villagery because of how rapid and the votes were purely off a snap read from something mana said. BT had a wagon i think constantly through the entire day iirc
not sure if i really believe this was a thought you had honestly? like obviously looking at the wagon it
seems mostly villagery but the reasoning of how the wagon was built up based on the thing where mana self-preserved without knowing there were no votes on him is like. kinda silly. at best you can argue it's a nai mistake. i don't really get why jumping onto the wagon for that reason is villagery because it seems like a very nebulous thing to push someone based off of in the first place.
like why is it a villagery thought process to think mana making that mistake is wolfy? again, missing context. a lot of your justification for your reads seem like they're missing process. the speed and how quickly the wagon formed by itself isn't good enough my friend. why couldn't a wolf jump onto that wagon? mana was lhf and a suitable scapegoat. how rapid the votes piled on isn't sufficient reason to dismiss the votes being opportunistic. i don't get how that automatically makes the votes less likely to be opportunistic; it's an incomplete thought as far as i can tell. i guess villagers can jump onto cfd's, but so can wolves.
agree with this yeah
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Fri May 14, 2021 2:56 pm
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tr/tspic
tr/nook
bt/tspic
bt/nook
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poop/tr
poop/nook
poop/tspic
poop/bt
???
ugh
ive definitely ruled some of these out before
i have tr/bt and tspic/nook just strictly ruled out, and it's still hard for me to wrap my head around any poop worlds but idfk
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Fri May 14, 2021 2:51 pm
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Oh that sure is a wall, I vaguely remember skimming it in the morning lol
is there a main point in it you want feedback on bc it all seems like a lot of words with not much of an interesting conclusion other than bt being town, which... sure ig
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Thu May 13, 2021 8:06 pm
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trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:12 pm
i'm a little disappointed my earlier wall got glanced over but i get the sense that not only is nutella not interacting with it strange, but also that it seems like the only thing she got out of it was how people handled mana during eod1
which wall is this?
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Thu May 13, 2021 2:43 pm
- Forum: Previous Rackets
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Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:26 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:59 pm
I feel like every game I call something lolcatting and get confused reactions, like yeah it's exaggeration but only a little lol I did think those posts were really openwolfy at the time
idk how u can read my posts and think im openwolfing there
esooa... maybe
but if anyones gonna openwolf in a katze/esooa hydra its not fucking her cuz i can get away with it


yeah the copypasta ish post about her being "new" to mafia or whatever was the worst
but also the leadup to claiming set me off idk
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Thu May 13, 2021 12:15 am
- Forum: Previous Rackets
- Topic: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [GAME END]
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Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:09 am
But I am glad that you agree with that because it makes the game a lot easier for you, me and everyone. I think there is always 1 between Akemi and Trans and always 1 between TSPIC and Julinook. I take Julinook and BT as town now.
I think TSPIC is outed mafia.
We sleep, make them clear someone else. I am going to BG between Julinook and BT. If I die that will tell you a great deal.
It is plausible that will encourage the mafia to actually kill the town between the three of you. But at least we're forcing them to think which will give us some information.
TSPIC dies in f5 imo.
alright, fmpov it's
TR/TSPIC
TR/Nook
BT/TSPIC
BT/Nook
So if you're confident on clearing nook then yeah tspic is boxed in, I'm not as with you on BT over TR but I've seen vanity deepwolf harder than this
And if youre a wolf after all this fuckin lol me
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Thu May 13, 2021 12:07 am
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Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:04 am
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:59 pm
Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:57 pm
There is a stark contrast to the way that Tim/HK reacted/dealt with Trans Rights and Akemi Hazlenut vs. everyone else. There is aggression that is not apparent in their responses to other slots (except that one outlier on TSPIC.
I am confident that the 2 wolves are in these three slots at this point.
if TR and I are both town we are scary slots to have on their ass d1
if TR is a wolf I think there is still a unique interaction there and may be an attempt at spewing them town on purpose
And yet you are
both alive. They could simply remove you with a simple bullet on any of the previous three night phases. Granted the existence of some protection (sorta) but three consecutive nights. A wolf team that has BT in it leaving you two plus my slot alive for three straight nights feels extremely bunk.
TAT is now a confirmed wolf and one with three dead town and a living Bottom Text voting for them who was their counterwagon. Mana, the other counterwagon is a flipped town that has THREE LIVING PLAYERS voting for them.
It's an intriguing proposition and the game should be able to be solved right there. What does this mean to you?
TAT confirmed wolf - 3 dead town plus BT self pressing
BT ? - confirmed wolf + 1 dead town + 2 living players
Mana - confirmed town - 3 living players
The wolves have avoided killing people on the mana wagon.
What does this mean to you? Your perspective should be unique and different to mine on this subject.
I dont follow
I mean yes wolves would have been in favor of mana dying?
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Thu May 13, 2021 12:05 am
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Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:00 am
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:58 pm
Like I think all the attention on me and not killing me at night is an attempted distraction regardless of who between BT and TR is a wolf but I think one of them must be
In what universe do the mafia, after losing a number on n1, leave us both alive when we are lock clearing each other and make wifom kills like Walrus and Gavial?
I cannot view you as town anymore. I am very sorry if the wolves were banking on this all along but I've tunneled myself.
in the universe where walrus apparently outed as a PR and I guess gavial was seen as more cleared than you or I? Idk man I don't wanna be here either but I think they are hoping for us to be paranoid
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Thu May 13, 2021 12:02 am
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Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:59 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:56 pm
Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:54 pm
Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:52 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:45 pm
Yeah I'm still town tho
Would prob just be dead if BT hadn't gone on about my "~deepwolf equity~" lol
so you have BT as town then? because this thought can only be valid in a world where BT is town.
No they'd say it as wolf I think
then how would that influence the wolves to keep you alive, doesn't make any sense as a thought for you to have had
..what?
I'm saying it would be their plan to rationalize me not dying
"Would prob just be dead if BT hadn't gone on about my "~deepwolf equity~" lol"
Don't wanna tunnel you but that sentence does not say what you are saying that it says.
I mean if they're wolf it's a self perpetuating cycle and deliberate on their part?
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Wed May 12, 2021 11:59 pm
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Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:57 pm
There is a stark contrast to the way that Tim/HK reacted/dealt with Trans Rights and Akemi Hazlenut vs. everyone else. There is aggression that is not apparent in their responses to other slots (except that one outlier on TSPIC.
I am confident that the 2 wolves are in these three slots at this point.
if TR and I are both town we are scary slots to have on their ass d1
if TR is a wolf I think there is still a unique interaction there and may be an attempt at spewing them town on purpose
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Wed May 12, 2021 11:56 pm
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Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:54 pm
Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:52 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:45 pm
Yeah I'm still town tho
Would prob just be dead if BT hadn't gone on about my "~deepwolf equity~" lol
so you have BT as town then? because this thought can only be valid in a world where BT is town.
No they'd say it as wolf I think
then how would that influence the wolves to keep you alive, doesn't make any sense as a thought for you to have had
..what?
I'm saying it would be their plan to rationalize me not dying
- by Akemi Hazelnut
- Wed May 12, 2021 10:06 pm
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TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 10:03 pm
not fully going to answer this because we should definitely sleep today anyways but if that slot were alive we'd have to chop today. my immediate reaction to seeing the kill was that the wolves were trying to present this. I'm starting to think mac's explanation might be more likely or van is a wolf
why would gavial being alive mean we have to chop today