That's so.... unromantic...
And so... wrong...
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That's so.... unromantic...
The idea of me being the poisoner and poisoning myself is too wacky for words. On the other hand, it's a good reason for me to spend the money to hire a personal chef!
Yes, I agree with this.Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:14 am I'm going to go to bed soon so I'll just point this out. If I am a wolf I have gone to great pains to screw myself into a ridiculously tight POE by continuing to trust Martin, townreading Allcrab, and arguing that Gnome can't be mafia lover even when suspicion on her was raised. I am basically committing myself to a solve of exactly Mac and TSP. In my view you should seriously consider just following that solve. If I am town it is a good solve. If I am scum then the flips there will out me.
In order from towniest to scummiest:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:12 pm @Garden Gnome how do you feel overall about all of these people:
Mac
Alison
Allcrab
lost monkey
For sure, if we have a tryst, I don't want a wicked audience!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:30 pm Our decision to activate is a day phase ability anyway.
Whatever I decide I’m not telling.
I really don't know whether we are flipping mafia or a 3P poisoner!!!Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:29 pmIt's going to have to be your decision. If you believe that all we are doing is giving scum a good two-for-one, then I would suggest that you not activate.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:08 pm It depends on everyone’s degree of confidence on Gnome.
It's going to have to be your decision. If you believe that all we are doing is giving scum a good two-for-one, then I would suggest that you not activate.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:08 pm It depends on everyone’s degree of confidence on Gnome.
shall we activate tonight?
I don't know why mafia would care about that since I am town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:55 pm Our activation process makes it impossible for mafia accidentally kill the town lover and lose Gnome.
Well, that would make sense. If Belzy shot him and died, it doesn't clear Tony as town, only as non mafia. So someone else would have to be the mafia. I'm not sure who that is, however.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:35 pmShe said she believes his lack of a role claim to be strong evidence of his being evil (specifically poisoner). It's a perspective I tend to agree with. I'm not sure Tony is my preferred vote only because he can only be one of the two problem children.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:33 pm My true love, why do you think that Alison voted Tony?
Oooh, our first spat!!! Let's kiss and make up!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:33 pmIf it's not Mac, you're my first guess. Are we going to have drama in our household?Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:32 pm I actually don't have a clue as to who the scum could be.
So I will have to think more about that.
My true love, why do you think that Alison voted Tony?Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:32 pmYou could be right.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:29 pmGnomey dear, Tony is confirmed not mafia because of Belzy's desperado shot. His JOAT claim was a champs meme. This was Made-like of you.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:26 pmI am thinking that it could be TonyStarkPrime. I noticed how he has been asked several times to claim but his responses have been evasive. As for his reads, he's been really flip floppy. At one point, he said "Mac's not mafia," and he seemed very convinced that this read was right. Then, much later, after all his avoidance of claiming, he "hard claimed JOAT." Okay, so he claimed, but that doesn't mean that the JOAT is town. I am not convinced that TSP is town and, if he is not town, I think that he is most likely to be mafia.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:44 pm Who do you think is mafia if not Mac, @Garden Gnome?
I forgot about that shot, lol.
I actually don't have a clue as to who the scum could be.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:29 pmGnomey dear, Tony is confirmed not mafia because of Belzy's desperado shot. His JOAT claim was a champs meme. This was Made-like of you.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:26 pmI am thinking that it could be TonyStarkPrime. I noticed how he has been asked several times to claim but his responses have been evasive. As for his reads, he's been really flip floppy. At one point, he said "Mac's not mafia," and he seemed very convinced that this read was right. Then, much later, after all his avoidance of claiming, he "hard claimed JOAT." Okay, so he claimed, but that doesn't mean that the JOAT is town. I am not convinced that TSP is town and, if he is not town, I think that he is most likely to be mafia.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:44 pm Who do you think is mafia if not Mac, @Garden Gnome?
You could be right.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:29 pmGnomey dear, Tony is confirmed not mafia because of Belzy's desperado shot. His JOAT claim was a champs meme. This was Made-like of you.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:26 pmI am thinking that it could be TonyStarkPrime. I noticed how he has been asked several times to claim but his responses have been evasive. As for his reads, he's been really flip floppy. At one point, he said "Mac's not mafia," and he seemed very convinced that this read was right. Then, much later, after all his avoidance of claiming, he "hard claimed JOAT." Okay, so he claimed, but that doesn't mean that the JOAT is town. I am not convinced that TSP is town and, if he is not town, I think that he is most likely to be mafia.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:44 pm Who do you think is mafia if not Mac, @Garden Gnome?
I am thinking that it could be TonyStarkPrime. I noticed how he has been asked several times to claim but his responses have been evasive. As for his reads, he's been really flip floppy. At one point, he said "Mac's not mafia," and he seemed very convinced that this read was right. Then, much later, after all his avoidance of claiming, he "hard claimed JOAT." Okay, so he claimed, but that doesn't mean that the JOAT is town. I am not convinced that TSP is town and, if he is not town, I think that he is most likely to be mafia.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:44 pm Who do you think is mafia if not Mac, @Garden Gnome?
I think that, since he didn't use his role, it's more likely that he is poisoner than mafia. Somebody did get NKed, but no one was poisoned, which is why I'm leaning toward a poisoner role for him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:58 amWhy not mafia?Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:35 amHe could be poisoner.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:22 amYeah I went searching and felt similarly unimpressed with that answer.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:16 amprolonged fart noiseMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:28 pm It wasn't just the role it was the fact I idled. The role is quite whatever. I also was still thinking we might lose to anti claim up to a point.
He could be poisoner.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:22 amYeah I went searching and felt similarly unimpressed with that answer.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:16 amprolonged fart noiseMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:28 pm It wasn't just the role it was the fact I idled. The role is quite whatever. I also was still thinking we might lose to anti claim up to a point.
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I don't think that I am yeet proof.
it was either the power of love or it was a miracle. I can think of no other explanation.
could it have been fake poison? Weird but definitely possible.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:50 pmNope.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:44 pmDid you claim the heal on GG and I missed it or noMartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:39 pmThat's how it should be. I mean, not considering other slots/factors, I am more likely to be mafia for what I've done than I am poisoner. Two day phases ago I think the running theory was that I could be mafia healer. As much as they were wrong, I didn't find issues with those arguing that. It was fairly conceivable.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:42 pm I doubt Martin is the poisoner a lot more than I doubted it on Day 5. I don't have a mechanical reason to say he isn't mafia.
But lately more and more people with more frequent suggestions of who I am have been pointing at poisoner. Which sounds not really plausible to me given the substantial risks I took (from a hypothetical 3P poisoner perspective). It also feeks a bit like "oh, well if he's unlikely to be mafia, then he HAS to be poisoner, right?". Which leads me to the conclusion that people are just finding me scummy in general (and not with much consideration for D3 overall) and maybe or maybe not want me to be a wolf of some sort simply for their solving's sake.
I've been a 1-shot healer since claiming it SoD3. I have no clue as to what mechanic saved Gnome.
I'm rather doubtful that it's another healer. That would make 3 healers in the game (2 town, 1 mafia) which sounds odd and the hypothetical mafia-healer could've just joined in with the claims at some point.
Sure.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:49 pmHumour Alison as a poisoner prospect. You will thank me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:25 pm Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab
Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin
Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...
Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab
Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin
Anything is possible in a closed setup.
There is a lot of good stuff here from the love of my life.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:52 pm Gnome is my scary poison zombie boo, unresolved and unknown. I do have a suspicion that she was healed by mafia to keep a mischop option on the board they otherwise would have lost to poison -- also would be why they don't kill me (us) apart from Nanook just being a sensible kill in his own right. Also possible Gnome herself is mafia -- we may need to rely on some faith reads here. It's comforting that Made was mafia so we don't [likely] have to contend with worrisome pairs anymore (e.g. Alison/Martin or Allcrab/Gnome). Allcrab's town read on Gnome looms large in this way.
for sure. Then we can go ahead and yeet mafia.lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:48 pmIf poisoner can win with town, they should just claim.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:46 pm I don't know that I would prioritize either mafia or poisoner today. Getting rid of one or the other removes a kill from the game, and it's conceivable they can both kill each other. For that reason my initial voting interest lies with Mac -- he's a good candidate to be either one. I am going to let the day develop a bit before I start spamming out calls for a wagon though or even placing my own vote. Level heads prevail.
No, it wsn't true.Allcrab wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:15 pmI'm confused.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:07 pmThat sounds about right.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:05 pm First instinct of the day is that one mafia and one poisoner are contained within [Mac, Martin, Alison], and Allcrab is a wild card.
Oh, and you were not the target of any actions last night.
This isn't true because I targeted jay but they weren't targeted by anything else so ???
Update: You were investigated last night!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:30 pm Martin sounds town on tone, but I continue to have a lot of trouble understanding the arguments he makes.
I don’t understand the blurb underneath the 1-2 bullets in his last post.
Anything is possible, seeing that we weren't NKed.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:06 pm Technically possible Gnome is mafia. I am going to wait for someone to tell me why she is alive before I dwell further on that.
That sounds about right.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:05 pm First instinct of the day is that one mafia and one poisoner are contained within [Mac, Martin, Alison], and Allcrab is a wild card.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:07 pmGoodbye dear Gnome.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:04 pm I have an afternoon gardening job to go to in about half an hour and I don't expect to be back for EOD.
It is highly unlikely that I will survive the poison.
I want you all to know that I've had a lot of fun with this game. The cross-community game is awesome, and I am so happy that I got to play.
Please remember that the PoE now has to be everyone. Scum will be a lot harder to find at this point. Please don't assume that anyone is town on the basis of towny behavior! Anyway, those are my last words to you.
Good bye.
Go town!!!
I would agree. If Made flips scum, the scramble will be to find Made's scum buddy, as well as the poisoner. My flip will just mean that you're going to have to be more accurate because the opportunity for mischops will grow smaller. If Made flips town, you're really going to have to be super accurate. Also, you need to look at the possibility of a really deep wolf in people who are consistently town read. It's too late to chop people just for playing scummy. You're going to have to put everyone in the PoE. No one should be getting an easy town pass at this point.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:29 am POE keeps leading me to the same small piles, so I think I'm just going to have to wait for Made to flip to determine how to proceed. I definitely think Made is the best chop on the board.
why those two?
JJJ figured out that it was me.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:03 pmDid they know it was youJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:10 pmWe did on Night 4 only. Our lovership is activation-only, and the only night we both activated was N4. I refused every prior night. I believe Gnome activated every night.
For sure!Made wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:36 pmnot much actually! that works out really well lmao. Rough shake tho, I'll catch you in graveyard chat??
Jealousy is definitely motivation.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:18 pmHe was jealous of us.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:37 pmWhy did you serve me poison, disguised as delicious hazelnut truffles?
Not yet.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:53 pmHave you talked about which claims you think are most believable yet?Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:50 pmIt was dark chocolate, and I got greedy!Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:46 pmGarden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:37 pmWhy did you serve me poison, disguised as delicious hazelnut truffles?
You should have known the hazelnut was bad. She flipped mafia on day 1.
It was dark chocolate, and I got greedy!Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:46 pmGarden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:37 pmWhy did you serve me poison, disguised as delicious hazelnut truffles?
You should have known the hazelnut was bad. She flipped mafia on day 1.
That is so incredibly romantic!!!!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:42 am Also, if Made is mafia and we facilitated three separate mafia wagons at the end of Day 1, I will swell with insufferable ego.
okay, that's fine.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:54 pmThat question was specifically for mac-accusing-jay.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:52 pmWell, we know for sure that Gnome isn't the poisoner. What knuckleheaded poisoner would self-poison?
The best way to eradicate lesser celendine is to dig it up by the roots! Don't try to eradicate it with chemicals, especially Round up. That is highly toxic and will get into the groundwater. Also, it is carcinogenic, which can be a problem for dogs.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:40 pmI'm poisoned and will die so I may as well talk about gardening.Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:37 pm I continue to town read GG. She has too many posts with a decent amount of sentences talking about nothing (this is not a problem just saying they have nothing to do with the game)
GG I believe tries more to fit into a more stereotypical form of scum play, while her town game is well, talking about gardening
Watch out for lesser celendine in your garden. It is highly invasive and will take over and crowd out all of the native plantings. It will have a terrible effect on the local ecosystem. To prevent that from happening, you're going to need to eradicate this invasive weed.
I'm poisoned and will die so I may as well talk about gardening.Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:37 pm I continue to town read GG. She has too many posts with a decent amount of sentences talking about nothing (this is not a problem just saying they have nothing to do with the game)
GG I believe tries more to fit into a more stereotypical form of scum play, while her town game is well, talking about gardening