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Mac and I were voting on Wilgy at EoD1.Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:05 pmwhy isn't it likely? there were 3 wagons. did you vote for wilgy d1? idr who his d1 voters wereCRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:02 pmImpossible fypov? No
LIkely? No.
Ok I'll go through it once I'm not occupied by real life too much.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:44 am @Gavial @Porscha @CRichard I'd like you 3 to go over what I've posted and see what you think
Impossible fypov? No
If we believe that the Dr Wilgy wagon was pure at EoD2, then it has to be either MissC or Falcon.
Yet I kept my vote on Wilgy and the rest is history.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:57 pmIs that your only argument though.CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:49 pmAnd not try to win with 2 mafia than 1? If a mafia isn't flipped, it's much harder for the town to solve without a scum flip to look at info wise.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:46 pmThat would look suspicious as fuck.CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:44 pmYou see, as a wolf that would have been a perfect opportunity to move my vote to Porscha or to a vanity wagon and then let Porscha die.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:42 pmI mean.CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:32 pmNo I don't think I'm beyond suspicion, yet you have to wonder why leave EoD2 to a rand as a wolf?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:29 pm
As I mentioned, Wilgy getting heat from the start of D1 and being a wagon D1 made his flip a real possibility.
His partner would want to position themselves for a F3.
So being on a 50/50 wagon ain't that bad a strategy to deepwolf.
Or do you feel you're beyond suspicion?
As losing a partner to a rand instead of saving them would be shooting myself in the proverbial foot.
Mac literally last second unvoted Wilgy.
Yet that didn't happen.
Not to mention I had a gut you might be wolf (still do.) so that’s why I baited and pretended I’d vote Por. Then last 2 minutes I vote Wilgy.
So I suppose if your wolf here you would presume “Hey, Gavial gonna save wolf again!” so that’s why you didn’t bother switching vote.
Look if your wolf you expected me to vote Por but I didn’t.
You don’t wanna look suspicious and you expect me to save wolf again.
Logically you would think “Hey! Ima go let Gavial do it for me!”
But hold up! Surprise!
I tricked you and Wilgy got Rand and died.
Like idk why your giving me the “better with 2 mafia alive then 1” excuse when it wasn’t exactly the case at hand here.
Oh I know Mac voted you, yet before then was a consistent Wilgy pusher.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:53 pmYou listen or no?CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:47 pmI could be wrong though, yet I don't remember Falcon being one of the Wilgy voters.
That would be you, myself and MacDougall the flipped town.
MacDougall voted me.
And not try to win with 2 mafia than 1? If a mafia isn't flipped, it's much harder for the town to solve without a scum flip to look at info wise.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:46 pmThat would look suspicious as fuck.CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:44 pmYou see, as a wolf that would have been a perfect opportunity to move my vote to Porscha or to a vanity wagon and then let Porscha die.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:42 pmI mean.CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:32 pmNo I don't think I'm beyond suspicion, yet you have to wonder why leave EoD2 to a rand as a wolf?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:29 pmAs I mentioned, Wilgy getting heat from the start of D1 and being a wagon D1 made his flip a real possibility.
His partner would want to position themselves for a F3.
So being on a 50/50 wagon ain't that bad a strategy to deepwolf.
Or do you feel you're beyond suspicion?
As losing a partner to a rand instead of saving them would be shooting myself in the proverbial foot.
Mac literally last second unvoted Wilgy.
Yet that didn't happen.
Not to mention I had a gut you might be wolf (still do.) so that’s why I baited and pretended I’d vote Por. Then last 2 minutes I vote Wilgy.
So I suppose if your wolf here you would presume “Hey, Gavial gonna save wolf again!” so that’s why you didn’t bother switching vote.
I could be wrong though, yet I don't remember Falcon being one of the Wilgy voters.
You see, as a wolf that would have been a perfect opportunity to move my vote to Porscha or to a vanity wagon and then let Porscha die.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:42 pmI mean.CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:32 pmNo I don't think I'm beyond suspicion, yet you have to wonder why leave EoD2 to a rand as a wolf?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:29 pmAs I mentioned, Wilgy getting heat from the start of D1 and being a wagon D1 made his flip a real possibility.CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:20 pmGood job! You'd think that if I were mafia, then gambling on the rand with Wilgy a mafia and Porscha who would be town is an incredibly risky move as mafia no?
His partner would want to position themselves for a F3.
So being on a 50/50 wagon ain't that bad a strategy to deepwolf.
Or do you feel you're beyond suspicion?
As losing a partner to a rand instead of saving them would be shooting myself in the proverbial foot.
Mac literally last second unvoted Wilgy.
Your actions weren't forgotten Gav. At least to me.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:37 pmWow!CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:15 pmGav shielded me and thought Sig was the better option. I guess Wilgy thought I was too much hard work trying to eliminate.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:13 pmIIRC, Wilgy ended w/ his vote on Sig. Why not push your wagon, rather than a 0 poster?
Somebody actually listened to me and remember I said that I saved them from Day 1 Execution?
Nice!
I don't remember Falcon helping to ensure Wilgy died to the rand though.
No I don't think I'm beyond suspicion, yet you have to wonder why leave EoD2 to a rand as a wolf?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:29 pmAs I mentioned, Wilgy getting heat from the start of D1 and being a wagon D1 made his flip a real possibility.CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:20 pmGood job! You'd think that if I were mafia, then gambling on the rand with Wilgy a mafia and Porscha who would be town is an incredibly risky move as mafia no?
His partner would want to position themselves for a F3.
So being on a 50/50 wagon ain't that bad a strategy to deepwolf.
Or do you feel you're beyond suspicion?
Good job! You'd think that if I were mafia, then gambling on the rand with Wilgy a mafia and Porscha who would be town is an incredibly risky move as mafia no?
Gav shielded me and thought Sig was the better option. I guess Wilgy thought I was too much hard work trying to eliminate.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:13 pmIIRC, Wilgy ended w/ his vote on Sig. Why not push your wagon, rather than a 0 poster?
Does that mean you'll vote MissC 1st?Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:07 pm I liked that falcon went out of their way to post their own ISO's from their past 3 games where they were maf. they offered up that info. as far as I've seen, nobody has commented on that information at all. but compared to miss c who has been posting a lot less, and their last ones weren't really a contribution to the game, falcon comes off as more town to me now
You do that then, then compared how Dr Wilgy and I treated each other so you can see if I'm a likely Wilgy partner or not.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:08 pm I'm on mobile right now. I'll be diving into Wilgy tomorrow
Personally I should have voted you out yesterday. Too bad Paopan played so incredibly wolfy and badly.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:08 pmIs this OMGUS?
I also have MissC as scum if it isn't you, so this is fine.
So you have chosen ...... death.
If Falcon was the wolf, Paopan should be given a lecture on why he shouldn't have been so wolfy.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:04 pm well I've been called out since day 2 as possible wolf even with wilgy after the flip, but I personally wouldn't play the "hard bus each other until one of us dies needlessly to try and make other person look town in hopes htat it played out as a flip vote" strategy.
that's why I said falcon and miss c were both hard town reads early on and that's where a "deep wolf" would hide. and I'm still potentially including you in that crich. gav not out, but my most likely town atm
Yeah I still think Gav is town, as I think they wouldn't care so much about trying to vote anyone except Paopan if they were mafia.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:04 pm well I've been called out since day 2 as possible wolf even with wilgy after the flip, but I personally wouldn't play the "hard bus each other until one of us dies needlessly to try and make other person look town in hopes htat it played out as a flip vote" strategy.
that's why I said falcon and miss c were both hard town reads early on and that's where a "deep wolf" would hide. and I'm still potentially including you in that crich. gav not out, but my most likely town atm
Except Wilgy got less votes than Sig and myself.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:23 pm With Wilgy getting considerable heat D1, it's very possible that the other Maf was placed for deepwolf, since winning in an F3 would be their only option if Wilgy got flipped.
Did MissC help to kill DrWilgy though? If someone can correct me if I'm wrong, that would be great.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:48 pmMissC & CR, and yourself to a lesser degreeGavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:19 pmIf that’s the case then who would be in that position since D1?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:23 pm With Wilgy getting considerable heat D1, it's very possible that the other Maf was placed for deepwolf, since winning in an F3 would be their only option if Wilgy got flipped.
Sheeping you is one thing.
That wouldn't be a bad idea.
