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We should look at Dr Wilgy's ISO more.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:57 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:48 pm Ugh a tie. Do I break the tie by voting Porscha?
It's cool, just delete Gav after I'm gone.
Does Wolf Wilgy make this post before he dies about Town Gav?

Hmmmm

Wasn't Wilgy hard pushing on Gav long before they were about to be eliminated?
If so, then I'm inclined to believe Gav can't be a wolf as Wilgy wasn't in anti spew until they were eliminated at EoD2.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:23 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:18 pm The fact that MissC is on the MightyQ wagon doesn't give me confidence that Mighty flips wolf here.
where should i be voting? gav won't vote for pao and you're voting for me. i've said i don't want to vote falcon today.

have you given an actual scumread on me? you're operating with me as lock scum for today and haven't really given any reason other than poe

This is why Mafia is hard. I've got doubts on you being mafia, yet if it isn't you/Paopan who would it be?

The fact that MissC is on the MightyQ wagon doesn't give me confidence that Mighty flips wolf here.

If anything, the MightyQ wagon is more policy because like Sig they're always going to be in the PoE.
At least that's how I'm reading into the wagon.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:03 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:03 pm I also don't like the MightyQ Wagon.
That feels more like a policy elimination rather than a wagon that has a decent chance of flipping the last wolf.
why don't their posts feel like they can come from a wolf?

They seem to be incredibly clueless about the gamestate, when I would expect a wolf in their position to have been filled in by Wilgy and have more awareness of how the game has been going.
If I'm wrong on them being town, then pretend that I never had them as town.

I also don't like the MightyQ Wagon.
That feels more like a policy elimination rather than a wagon that has a decent chance of flipping the last wolf.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:13 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:11 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:49 am honestly falcon today just feels like bleeding heart town. i know if he's scum in this position he needs to try to be as towny as he possibly can to try and pull this out so i may just be giving him an incorrect townread based on that effort but i'm just not voting him today. there's absolutely no way he deserves to die before pao or mightyQ. if i get to a f3 with falcon i'll cross that bridge then
Pocket accepted.

Given some other reads on my slot, I think if MissC were scum it would be easy to start pressuring me at this point.
There’s gotta be a wolf in here right?
@Paopan
@CRichard
@Porscha

If Paopan and MC don't end the game, then sure I can see Falcon being mafia as a possibility.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:32 pm Like, @MacDougall, right now I have both Gav and Porscha on my wagon. These are both wolves trying to make it to Lylo.

Our dynamic is exactly why scum wouldn't have even bothered to fret at the outcome of sig yesterday. This line where scum Gav votes me and says 'oh well' after going hard tunnel on you, then *NOT* voting you, and then getting you to help him yeet me seems so fucking clear to me.

Posts such as these make me think that Porscha and Gav don't make sense as the last wolf.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:04 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:15 am Porscha probably isn't the last wolf as they were the counter wagon to Wilgy, a flipped mafia.
Gav turning around and helping Wilgy go over by rand doesn't feel like a bus.
MightyQ feels like a clueless town because of how disconnected they feel from the game, which doesn't feel faked.
I still have Falcon as a town lean/read.

Therefore, my PoE is Paopan/MissC and i'm leaning towards the former as town here.
Are we sure both Por and Wilgy aren’t the team?
Like Mac had a point before he died where he mentioned the way Wilgy was talking about my vote on him and saving Por.

Try going through DrWilgy's ISO and read the posts where DrWilgy treats Porscha.
I had them as unaligned from the votes as well.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:58 pm @CRichard Got some hawt takes?

I'd be thinking Gav might be the last wolf or you.
I think the former being a wolf feels more in tinfoil land right now.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:19 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:17 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:09 am paopan has not pushed an actual read of consequence in this game. d1 jumped on the god awful ml of sig and does not deserve a pass for that whatsoever, then d2 named people as scum constantly and never gave any reasons for it. (legitimately, scroll through pao's ISO and try to find any reasons for scumreading people.) then voted wilgy's cw after getting cold feet on wilgy.

i'm not dead set on pao being scum but i absolutely think this is the logical kill for today
Ngl Paopan's vote record is wolfy af. That's why I have them in my PoE as well.
i just don't want everyone to be reading this game based on votes and nothing else. bussing is an essential part of mountainous mafia. i currently am operating in the poe of people who are linked to wilgy by vote logic but i'm not married to that and i don't want everyone to just read two days of votes and then stop trying to solve the game.

That's a valid thought. Reading votes in important, yet far from the only tool to use in Forum Mafia.

Man playing Forum Mafia is tiring.
Shocking I know.

Hmm I should keep an eye out for who seemed deflated after Wilgy flipped.
Whoever seems to be solving more after a wolf flip is > rand V from where I'm at.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:09 am paopan has not pushed an actual read of consequence in this game. d1 jumped on the god awful ml of sig and does not deserve a pass for that whatsoever, then d2 named people as scum constantly and never gave any reasons for it. (legitimately, scroll through pao's ISO and try to find any reasons for scumreading people.) then voted wilgy's cw after getting cold feet on wilgy.

i'm not dead set on pao being scum but i absolutely think this is the logical kill for today

Ngl Paopan's vote record is wolfy af. That's why I have them in my PoE as well.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:50 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:49 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:46 am why is the idea that someone might bus in a mountainous game that shocking?
It's not out of the realm of possibility tbh.
Fmpov, if there was a busser on Wilgy it would have to be Gav/Paopan.
paopan did not bus wilgy, paopan actively avoided consequentially voting on wilgy at every opportunity despite claiming to be willing to

This is why it would be nice to have past VCs.
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Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:46 am why is the idea that someone might bus in a mountainous game that shocking?

It's not out of the realm of possibility tbh.
Fmpov, if there was a busser on Wilgy it would have to be Gav/Paopan.

I don't want to imagine a world where Paopan/MissC are both town, the game state doesn't make sense for the two of them to both be town.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:37 am do you have any reason for that other than me townreading wilgy d2?

Mainly PoE and that I've found less reasons to town read you than the other players.
If I'm mistaken on you, you'll need to help me see that so that I'll be moving my vote to Paopan.

If you're Mafia MissC, then I'm sorry you got dealt a rough hand this game.
Ngl I thought you were somewhat towny and now you're in my 2 player sized PoE.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:30 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:29 am So MissC, I'm sure there's a wolf in you/Paopan.
If you're the villager, you're going to have to help me see the light so we can end this game preferably today.
well i agree with killing paopan

That's good. If you're the villager, you can still win if Paopan flips wolf the following day.
Ain't life grand?

So MissC, I'm sure there's a wolf in you/Paopan.
If you're the villager, you're going to have to help me see the light so we can end this game preferably today.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:20 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:11 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:08 am CR feels like he's coasting today
I've been occupied with real life.
I'm here now.
outrageous

I know right? Having a life outside of Forum Mafia? Unthinkable!

Seriously if this game isn't over with those 2 flips and I'm still alive, then f me.

Porscha probably isn't the last wolf as they were the counter wagon to Wilgy, a flipped mafia.
Gav turning around and helping Wilgy go over by rand doesn't feel like a bus.
MightyQ feels like a clueless town because of how disconnected they feel from the game, which doesn't feel faked.
I still have Falcon as a town lean/read.

Therefore, my PoE is Paopan/MissC and i'm leaning towards the former as town here.

Anyway I should seriously figure who the last wolf would be if Paopan/MissC flips don't end the game.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:08 am CR feels like he's coasting today

I've been occupied with real life.
I'm here now.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:25 am
CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:00 am Yet I was correct to call those two as not the exact team by votes.
Yes. But I have some doubts about your slot. You are an experienced player and might be doing some good ol bussing techniques cos regardless of alignment cos you might view him as huge burden. DrWiggly is generally scummy, even as town. This is my observation on my recent game with him and today. That is why I am inclined not to lynch him last day.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:17 am Like MissC be like “Falcon Good”, Paopan be like “MightyQ Good”.

Got some interesting reads eh?
I think MightyQ is a towny but bored on a citizen game setup.
Cos similarly based on how he explained it... that's how I view things when I am very noob to FM.
So he's a town clear for me.

That's fair.
This is my 1st game with DrWilgy, so I wouldn't have known that they have a scummy meta before this game.
I can vibe with MightyQ as town, as they feel too disconnected from the game to be scum.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:11 am MightyQ
Gavial
Porsha
Crich
falcon
MC

That's interesting in you have me lower than 4 people in your list.
I would have expected to be higher, seeing as pushed on Wilgy with Mac since D1.
Oh well it is what it is.

Yet I was correct to call those two as not the exact team by votes.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:08 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:01 am who would have benefitted the most by killing mac?

In the scenario where me and wilgy are both wolf, mac was one of the only people townreading me so I wouldn't have a good reason to off him if wilgy flipped instead of me - which was is what happened
The two most obvious ones would be Pao & MissC. Mac pushed Pao all game, and after Wilgy's lynch Mac also expressed suspension of MissC, tho that was scaled back right before his death.

Pao is the most obvious one who stood to gain. Tho I don't think that's how we should solve this RD necessarily

Ngl I'll be shocked if flipping MissC and Pao doesn't end the game.

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DrWilgy's ISO is in the link above.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:55 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:49 pm I feel a little dirty voting with Porscha who is in my PoE, yet my solve has 1 wolf in Porsch/Wilgy.
And I feel wrong voting with Pao, but I suppose I gotta vote [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine at this point.

This might spew Paopan as town here.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:15 pm
Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:25 pm Did I touch the correct part of the doll?
Is it really Falcon-Porsha?
right now I'm thinking Wilgy/MC. Falcon has been basically me in this game. We have had pretty much the same exact thoughts. I'm never going there. Porscha was also fine to me
What makes Porscha fine to you? I'm baffled by this read as well, especially when Porscha keeps using dissuasive tone over a hunting tone.

Wilgy was trying hard to discredit town reads on Porscha. I think this is a good look for Porsch.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:09 am Mafia can't win now ha ha ha ha

Yeah I feel good about town's chances of winning this game.

MightyQ wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:05 am Tbh though I feel like I'm gonna die tonight. I have a hunch that someone here doesn't like me being derpy and shit and I'm gonna die, which is just fan-fucking tastic.

Why would the mafia kill you? You aren't anywhere as big a threat compared to Mac for example.

I'm thinking Mighty is town, as they feel too unaware about the game to fake it as a wolf.
Yes it's a derp clear and I don't particularly like using them, yet it is what it is.

MightyQ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:58 pm wait is it too late?

It seems you're late to the party. We flipped Wilgy a mafia.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:57 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:56 pm The solve has to be in Miss Carousel and Paopan as we know Wilgy a mafia was voting Porscha to self pres.
I doubt their partner didn't try to save Wilgy here.
Falcon voted Paopan.
MightyQ didn’t vote and was not present.

What about them?

I'm thinking that Falcon or Mighty would have gotten the SoS in wolf chat that Wilgy was in danger of dying and vote on Porscha.
That to me makes me think that Falcon and Mighty are probably not mafia, if they are then lol.

The solve has to be in Miss Carousel and Paopan as we know Wilgy a mafia was voting Porscha to self pres.
I doubt their partner didn't try to save Wilgy here.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:33 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:27 pm wilgy also tried to start up some mightyq sus but never really pushed missc
Ngl, I'll feel a little silly if Carousel is mafia.
why? shit happens

Oh yeah that's true. That's part of being human.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:27 pm wilgy also tried to start up some mightyq sus but never really pushed missc

Ngl, I'll feel a little silly if Carousel is mafia.

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:18 pm https://clocktower.online/#utg

Oops that wasn't intended.

https://clocktower.online/#utg

In before someone says I bussed Wilgy, who I pushed for 2 days in a row.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:09 pm The vote was a tie between DrWilgy and Porscha. The execute has been randomized onto DrWilgy. He was Homulily (Mafia Goon). Night 2 starts now.

Ok that works.
PogChamp.

Rand and hope we hit mafia.
Man my luck is good eh?

Urgh this EoD sucks.
Do I vote Gav to break the rand?

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:58 pm Sike!
I vote Wilgy!

Bruh.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:57 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:48 pm Ugh a tie. Do I break the tie by voting Porscha?
It's cool, just delete Gav after I'm gone.

If you flip town. maybe.
If you flip mafia, not a chance.

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