The Syndicate

Ty for hosting NANOOK ! Had fun!

Wp everyone! We killed wolves 5 days in a row, whereas had I shot a townie instead of Alison we would have instantly lost!

Daisy and Shen, don't worry about it, it was a tough position in the end.

Cape, good job pulling through!

CAPPED GLGL

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:58 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:35 am
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:34 am So Axe V lean, me V lean, wisdom W lean

Is that all you have so far dya?

No thoughts at all bout Sabi / HK / Sean / Alison?
I'm not the best reader of sabi so holding off there for now. HK i usually get better at reading as time goes on. Same with alison
In case I die, this is the main reason I have dya/sabi as not w/w. Dya would make this post ~never if teamed with all 3 of them Imo.

I see it, yeah.

Dunya has some really "in your face town" posts, like the Alison derp and the "I would have killed Marmot for this" post.
But I can't really see any actual emotions in her posts. Like, the wim, the hype over joining a game after a double tap, I miss that.

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:55 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:54 pm TOWN
Marmot
Cape
SS
Sean
------
------
Spacedaisy
Wilgy
Falcon
-------
Dya
Dunya
Sabi
WOLF
why is dunya so low? why is falcon higher?

Moooostly vibes. I could honestly say a few reasons why she's town but I have tinfoil hat on (:
I also have somethings on an emotional level I'd expect from her *as* town but I don't have enough experience with her to know if it's valid or not.

I have no reason to believe that Falcon has done anything outside of null territory. He's exactly rand for me.

TOWN
Marmot
Cape
SS
Sean
------
------
Spacedaisy
Wilgy
Falcon
-------
Dya
Dunya
Sabi
WOLF

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:34 pm I will never get used to EODs on TS

How slow they are? Yeah it's kinda weird. Not that I have many posts left but I expected more *fire*!

@Spacedaisy @Marmot @falcon45ca @Sabiplz are you planning on voting? Day ends in 40 min.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:12 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:49 pm I can see Brad picking Sabi as godfather tbh.

Did they ever claim who they roleblocked btw?
yes, seanzie

Aight, cool!

I wanted to do some kind of BUT I'M THE TRACKER AND I TRACKER HER TO XXXX fps shenanigans (it worked on FoL) but I'm way too tired to even try!^^

I can see Brad picking Sabi as godfather tbh.

Did they ever claim who they roleblocked btw?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:53 pm I'm fine with dying because yall keep focusing on me and not scum hunting. I don't have the energy to keep defending myself.

When I die, please look into dya and seanize becuase I will flip V.

I don't get it.
No one has mentioned you for like 6 hours.
We've spent a lot of time talking about Dunya/Dya/Falcon/Wilgy.
I'd say a lot of scum hunting has been done.
But as soon as someone sneeze in your direction, you fall flat and go full on AtE?
Why?

(Also why seanize?)

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:25 pm kind of concerned his read on wilgy is trying to clear another wolf

@Wisdom thoughts?

fwiw, I do think he spewed you v

I can see that, had a similar thought earlier.
I'm taking into consideration that Jack said HK TMI'd Wilgy town earlier though.
Not gonna focus Wilgy too hard today.

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:16 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:10 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:03 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:00 pm Dya I'd like you to chime in as well, what's your thoughts on Sabi right now?
I also don't remember if you've drawn any conclusion on Dunya yet?
I have dunya in my null pile. I still have her there. I think she's been sort of villagery but she isnt blowing me away with it, which she has in previous games we were both village. And I know she's a good player

sabi i think could be w. But I really think falcon is for his inactivity and i'm not sure that 2 wolves would fake claim PRs on the same team?
I'm a bit perplexed as for why you're so tunneled on falcon being w for his inactivity? Do you know him since beforehand? Is there something indicating he'd only 3 post and peace out as wolf and not as town, that I'm not aware of?
he's been more active in basically every other game I've been in with him

He soft claimed a PR and peaced out

he's done nothing since

I think he's coasting on his claim and I don't really find that villagery at all

I think he's literally unable to play or has forgotten about the game. I strongly doubt he's intentionally coasting on his claim.
Not saying he's town necessarily, just that I don't think his disappearance is alignment indicative.

[VOTE: Sabiplz] aubergine

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:03 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:00 pm Dya I'd like you to chime in as well, what's your thoughts on Sabi right now?
I also don't remember if you've drawn any conclusion on Dunya yet?
I have dunya in my null pile. I still have her there. I think she's been sort of villagery but she isnt blowing me away with it, which she has in previous games we were both village. And I know she's a good player

sabi i think could be w. But I really think falcon is for his inactivity and i'm not sure that 2 wolves would fake claim PRs on the same team?

I'm a bit perplexed as for why you're so tunneled on falcon being w for his inactivity? Do you know him since beforehand? Is there something indicating he'd only 3 post and peace out as wolf and not as town, that I'm not aware of?

Dya I'd like you to chime in as well, what's your thoughts on Sabi right now?
I also don't remember if you've drawn any conclusion on Dunya yet?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:04 pm Due to host error, the postcap for everyone today has been set at 120 (thats 120 total). Please do not exceed this.

On future days post caps will be posted at SOD, apologies for the inconvenience.

Oh pog <3
Means Dunya can go wild today casing Sabi :3

Dunya, sorry if I've forgotten but what's been your thoughts on Sabi so far? (I have no idea how close I am to cap but I think we're both closing in sadly!)

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:23 pm wow the iso is worlds apart different

Yes to start with it's in the right order xD

Oh you mean alignment wise??

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:20 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:14 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:58 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:57 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:54 pm
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:36 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:20 pm @Shending_Help can u link me to the direct ISO of your last wolf game pls
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/se ... d=15229238

As I told Cape earlier tho, I put very very limited time into this mash. 190 ppl and laggy website so not the best game to tryhard and keep one's sanity in.

But that's my only wolf game since coming back (minus turbos)

So you'll prolly have to look back to 2018 if you want another example.

Gn.
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@Shending_Help can u link me to the thread and ur username ?
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... rsary-2022

He's Swedish Skumbag
oh thats anni mash. rip in peace me

i would prefer a regular game, but beggars cant be choosers eh?

Like he said, he hasn't wolfed in a regular game for 4 years ^^

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:43 pm reading through Shending's iso, he's done a lot of busywork tbh

I love that this has the tone of it being negative/wolfy xD

Different forums different metas <3

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:58 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:57 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:54 pm
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:36 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:20 pm @Shending_Help can u link me to the direct ISO of your last wolf game pls
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/se ... d=15229238

As I told Cape earlier tho, I put very very limited time into this mash. 190 ppl and laggy website so not the best game to tryhard and keep one's sanity in.

But that's my only wolf game since coming back (minus turbos)

So you'll prolly have to look back to 2018 if you want another example.

Gn.
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@Shending_Help can u link me to the thread and ur username ?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... rsary-2022

He's Swedish Skumbag

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:57 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:56 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:53 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:55 pm
This is obviously a motivator soft yes but it's way too obvious and I don't see why he'd do that.
What's a motivator, even?
Clarification: I don't trust the soft because it's too weird. Not sure what that makes of Falcon but I at least don't think he's a motivator.
whats too weird about it?

I mean, claiming first post is fun but I only see any real value in doing it in a open setup. In a closed setup wolves doesn't need the information of what PR's they're dealing with. I think Falcon knew this and either is just a wolf or meant to mislead wolves. Hence, I doubt he's ever actually a motivator.

Maybe he got information that a motivator exists though and tries to cover? Or that it doesn't exist and does a safe claim as wolf? That'd make more sense.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:37 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:54 pm which gives me the vibe that Dunya is only wolfing if SS is as well.
*squints*

why would i think SS is unyeetable? i dont think anyone in this game is unyeetable.

You make it sound like a perspective slip ^^

Don't know what your wolf mindset is but most wolves would absolutely consider me unyeetable right now. SS has put the most effort in with regards to cases and solving, I believe most wolves would prefer rather nk him than try to get him yeeted considering the amount of effort that would be required for getting people to actually vote him instead of the current consensus PoE.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:35 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:35 pm Falcon got 4 shots? I mean, bussing happens, but after 2 wolves already got nuked? Weh, don't wanna punt Falcon today.
this is exactly why bussing happens, especially if falcon has irl reasons preventing him from participating.

Fair, I suppose!

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:28 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:17 pm Wolves could have had knowledge of NAX being PR though!
Well it's possible. But that's another "if" that has to be true. Sure, I'm not saying you should clear me from that point alone, but that should be another reason to add ONTO all the other reasons why I'm town this game.

I also pushed for the Alison shot right before you shot it. And I was one of the main voices/forces to push for Sean/Cape/you/Marmot to be clear (most ppl that said the same came in afterwards). Unless your world view is extremely wrong and theres 2 wolves including me in the towncore, then wolf!me would've had to have decided to just clear all the correct villagers, and then pray that I can successfully endgame. And I promise you, I'm not that confident in my late game wolfing in order to pick that strategy.

I know you don't have a ton of meta of my forum style, but I think you've heard me talk about the fact that my best wolf performances has been to post well early and then skate that to victory with the clears I got. And if I'm picking a strat that's likely to leave me pretty alone towards several days at the end, then goddamn would I have to WIM it up in those later stages.

That applies to all your meta, but yes, I see your point.

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:22 pm I know my opinion means exactly 0 to you wisdom but idont think SS is wolfing here. I think his process has come through pretty fairly in his posts. I also think he's sticking to his reads like he did that one WC game a long time ago

Sorry if I make it sound like I don't listen to you Dya! I agree SS is most likely town but if I'm misreading any of my town reads it's probably him.

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:18 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:17 pm Wolves could have had knowledge of NAX being PR though!
you think there's a wolf RC or something?

Or just a mechanic that gave wolves some kind of n0 information.

Wolves could have had knowledge of NAX being PR though!

Mmmmm
Fair!

Actually @dunya help me out here, do you think Shending is wolfing and why?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:46 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:08 am Feeling quite confident that there's 2-3 wolves in Dunya/Dya/Sabi/Falcon.
I don't have feeings about Dunya, even though I also don't remember any content from them, which is concerning on it's own. Falcon I think is almost assuredly clear if Sabi flips wolf, and idk if I see LC picking Falcon either way.

I'd say Dunya has played in a "keeping the eye on the ball" kind of way, which for a player like her *could* be wolf indicative.

The thing that makes me pause is that she asked SS (Shen) for a wolf game out of nowhere. I think v!SS would be considered unyeetable from a wolfs perspective, which gives me the vibe that Dunya is only wolfing if SS is as well.

I initially town read it though because SS didn't have any spotlight before that and I don't really see a point for Dunya to move it there, and I *can* see SS potentially deep wolf here considering he didn't have a very town siding d1 and I don't recall the emotional backlash that should have come from that. The way he's hard defending me is also something I've *never* seen him do before but I know that he likes to pocket me when wolf. (I can see town him do it as well, is the problem, since he knows I wouldn't crush two wolves right off the gate as wolf.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:17 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:06 am yeah, okay. Gonna take a stance. Falcon probably not mafia, Sabi mafia.
This is hilarious. Please tell me who my partners are in this world. Dya also pushed for Falcon?

I read this as not w/w with Dya btw!

Falcon got 4 shots? I mean, bussing happens, but after 2 wolves already got nuked? Weh, don't wanna punt Falcon today.

Feeling quite confident that there's 2-3 wolves in Dunya/Dya/Sabi/Falcon.

Rip Jack!

@Marmot you ready for blast off? I'm heading off to bed soon but would like to see the flip first ^^

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:48 pm
Wisdom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:34 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:31 pm I really wanna just use my shot so I can sleep.

Oh goodness

here goes nothing IG... If I learned anything, it's to just trust my gut here

Get the dead out of the thread [dunya]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I hope this is right
Miss!

Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
phew got scared for a sec there (She could very well be a wolf so don't mind me)

awwwwwwwwwwwwweeee

Your pocket is very cozy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:34 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:31 pm I really wanna just use my shot so I can sleep.

Oh goodness

here goes nothing IG... If I learned anything, it's to just trust my gut here

Get the dead out of the thread [dunya]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I hope this is right
Miss!

Spoiler: show

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:11 pm i don't understand people immediately claiming PRs either, but what do i know about that strategy lol

I would never instantly claim a PR

*coughs*

Spoiler: show

10% being the hit rate is lower than MU mashes btw.
It's crazy that we actually hit a wolf with it.
I expect the rest to be misses tbh, but it still generates some info. Don't think wolves has ITA modifiers if it's a town chosen mech.

I expect Falcon disappearing to be NAI.
From what I know he's good enough of a player to not Rand Wolf - Peace out

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:56 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:48 pm Why is dya a wolf? I must have missed something in my catchup
PoE + Them giving both flipped wolves passes because "they become obvious later" + them having very limited amounts of reads if you look through the ISO. And their entry was literally giving 1 townread, and it was on Axe who died in the night. It doesn't feel like they really believe strongly in anything from what i've picked up.

And i really hated when they threw out the sus on wisdom earlier and gave the excuse of Alison being bussable and Wisdom being hard to read for them. Like, sure. I can see that influencing things, but to just ignore Wisdom literally being dead right on HK/Alison all d1 and pushing it hard + shooting Alison and then shading that person because Wisdom misremembered something? (which is in character for wisdom as well)

I'm not sure Dya is a wolf, but it's the best I got tbh

Yeah the sus on me gave me similar vibes to when HK sussed NAX. Edgy for the sake of being edgy.

Wisdom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:53 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:55 pm
This is obviously a motivator soft yes but it's way too obvious and I don't see why he'd do that.
What's a motivator, even?

Clarification: I don't trust the soft because it's too weird. Not sure what that makes of Falcon but I at least don't think he's a motivator.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:55 pm

This is obviously a motivator soft yes but it's way too obvious and I don't see why he'd do that.
What's a motivator, even?

Oh I forgot to poll vote them.
I'm so confused today, I blame virus!

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:45 pm @wisdom So I take it that you have a townread on Dya? Wanna talk about it? I'm leaning towards shooting there or Falc rn

I knew I forgot someone.
I'm even voting them, lol.
No, I don't have a town read on them! I was gonna say shoot in [Jack, Dya] but that [Sabi, Falcon, Daisy] are also fine but more risky.

Not clearing Dun but I think [Jack, Sabi, Daisy, Falcon] are all decent shots although I'd like Daisy/Falcon to be able to claim first if there's any PR's left.
Feels like we should have stronger PR's than RB+RC+1x Vig if there's 6 wolves in a 15er.
Although the ITA mechanic is also town sided, yeah.

How many PRs could town have btw? NAA+Marmot+Sabi makes three.
Not trying to fish anything, just thinking about how likely Sabi's claim is, and there's probably some mech info that I've missed as usual.

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