The Syndicate

alexa wtf.

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:25 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:24 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:17 pm i'm not voting for Nanook today after Mac and Matt's flip
simple
I really don't want to be insulting here but regardless of Nook's actual alignment your approach here is awful.
how?

and seriously please stop the ATE it's fucking annoying.

There's no AtE.

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:24 pm like you literally wasted yesterday by pushing Mac when we could've chopped Nook when I wanted to
i'm not doing that now

Are you actually serious?

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:23 pm ya'll should've flipped Nanook with me when i was pushing on him yesterday
you had your chance

i no longer want to vote him and i'm not calling back into the same incorrect POE after getting it wrong the first two times. NANOOK is a villager.

I was the person trying to organise the flash wagon on him ffs.

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:17 pm i'm not voting for Nanook today after Mac and Matt's flip
simple

I really don't want to be insulting here but regardless of Nook's actual alignment your approach here is awful.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:17 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:13 pm Honestly we deserve to lose this.

If you think there's any world where I leave both of alexa and illario alive in a F7 no matter how right or wrong their reads are then you're insane lol.
K

Where are the mafia then

You can say any combo of 3 names that isn't me

TSP/LC/Ender

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:16 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:13 pm Honestly we deserve to lose this.

If you think there's any world where I leave both of alexa and illario alive in a F7 no matter how right or wrong their reads are then you're insane lol.
really? i was predicting that unless scum was like in [tony, Nanook, Ender] then Syn was highly likely to die. me and ilario have both been townreading you a bunch.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:13 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:05 pm Anyways now that we've killed two people in the collective poe that I correctly townread can we start killing the people I want to kill or are we just gonna keep doing the same thing and hoping it works
i'm sheeping Mac's read on you so i'm not killing you. i still think illario is a villager but i'm willing to re-assess him today
anyone else you want to kill i'm open to
Why are you sheeping Mac's read specifically on Nook?
becuase he had Nanook as strong town and he has tons of experience with the guy

Youve been townreading me but it's F7 and you're both like 95% clear and are never ever going to doubt each other. If you and illario are t/t then that kill is probably the best thing that could have happened to us this game.

Mac literally just read Nook terribly wrong last game and half his legacy reads are just based on preflipping me wolf which is incredibly frustrating. I don't understand how your first thought coming into the thread is "I blindly trust that Nanook is town and even though he's been pushing on my two top towbreads for the entire game I'm going to let him choose who I vote". Are you serious?

I've tried numerous games to start wagons on Nook this game and nobody's bitten. He's either a wolf or he's a town who the wolves are keeping around to misvote at LILO.

I think that threadspews illario town if anything.

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:05 pm Anyways now that we've killed two people in the collective poe that I correctly townread can we start killing the people I want to kill or are we just gonna keep doing the same thing and hoping it works
i'm sheeping Mac's read on you so i'm not killing you. i still think illario is a villager but i'm willing to re-assess him today
anyone else you want to kill i'm open to

Why are you sheeping Mac's read specifically on Nook?

Honestly we deserve to lose this.

If you think there's any world where I leave both of alexa and illario alive in a F7 no matter how right or wrong their reads are then you're insane lol.

Oh OK then lol

Vote: Nanook

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alexa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:03 pm then vote Mac, or we can vote Nanook

^^^

Do NOT try to flash wagon Nook in the last two minutes. It's now or not at all.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:02 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:01 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:00 pm I think I’m just gonna stay out of this vote tbh
And it’s not that I’m worried about how I’ll look if I misvote, I really don’t care about that, it’s just I don’t feel confident and I feel that if there is a wolf outside of mac present rn they can just justify voting whatever misvote I choose by saying they were voting with their tr (aka me)
If you do this then Mac's going to self pres onto LC.

Like, Im willing to go for Nook if you want to but LC shouldn't flip today.
interesting... why not?

Because I'm pretty sure he's just town here.

The flip always happens between you and Nook today.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:02 pm What happens if lc and mac are tied? Does it become random?

Yeah.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:00 pm I think I’m just gonna stay out of this vote tbh
And it’s not that I’m worried about how I’ll look if I misvote, I really don’t care about that, it’s just I don’t feel confident and I feel that if there is a wolf outside of mac present rn they can just justify voting whatever misvote I choose by saying they were voting with their tr (aka me)

If you do this then Mac's going to self pres onto LC.

Like, Im willing to go for Nook if you want to but LC shouldn't flip today.

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:57 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:56 pm Lmao I’m so confused, cos everything mac is doing i can see myself doing too
if you want to go NANOOK ill vote with you
i dont understand why Mac is so firm on NAN town.

I'm willing to too but I want to do it with time to spare if we decide to.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:54 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:52 pm [VOTE: tsp] aubergine
Sell me quickly.
I got no clue but Mac defending LC when everyone was pseudo agreeing with my case is a goodish look??

True but it's not exactly hard to fake either and I don't Hinksey we ever actually miselim LC if he's town.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:54 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:53 pm I am also literally never partnered with Mac anyway.
So why’d he not take the free lim on lc when he had the chance

That's the main thing going for him tbh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:54 pm Lets just look at one isolated thing.

Ender casing LC.

Wiml, Ilario, Alexa and TSP all bared fangs towards LC after it. LC was essentially a sitting duck.

I surmise that it is very unlikely 5 town are doing this so I think LC is spewed town for it and state as much.

Suddenly I wake this morning to Wiml doing a hidden iso (read showed no work) and oh wait LC was townie all along.

Wiml doesn't care about facts he just wants mischops.

I was quoting the ISO as I went through lol.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:52 pm [VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Sell me quickly.

I am also literally never partnered with Mac anyway.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:52 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:51 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:49 pm Like I have no idea what wolf!mac would gain by doing this rn
By doing what?
Spewing me even more town

You are never going to get miselimned this game if town anyway.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:50 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:48 pm I honestly have no idea what to do with my vote
Same. Kinda demotivated after 24 hours of people not really countering my ISO then eod and suddenly multiple people think it's all wrong

Sorry about that. I've been demotivated for a lot of today myself.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:49 pm Like I have no idea what wolf!mac would gain by doing this rn

By doing what?

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:48 pm I honestly have no idea what to do with my vote

I'm down for a Nook counterwagon but 4 tied wagons would be bad lol.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:35 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:34 pmMac/Nanook?
I can see it.

My thoughts as well.

*push, not read

Honestly is it bad that I think Mac made his question lengthy on purpose specifically to prime me into making a long answer like that so he could justify a wolf read on me?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:29 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:26 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:23 pm I think they have both been wolfy today in standard ways.
Please expand on this.

Wasn't alexa also your literal top town?
why do you/people make statements like the second one earnestly? like do I have to preface reads with "now I know my prior stance was this" to confirm that I am conscious of things as I say them? It's such pointless diatribe.
Because it gets you to answer what I want you to answer without you being able to give me a half-hearted response mostly.

In this case I specifically wanted to know about your alexa progression.

Mostly subconscious to achieve that though.
You just fell into the trap of over answering a mundane question to try to apply town thought to look good. Ah to be a young wolf again.

I explained it in detail because I assumed you genuinely wanted an answer. This is an awful take lol.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:26 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:23 pm I think they have both been wolfy today in standard ways.
Please expand on this.

Wasn't alexa also your literal top town?
why do you/people make statements like the second one earnestly? like do I have to preface reads with "now I know my prior stance was this" to confirm that I am conscious of things as I say them? It's such pointless diatribe.

Because it gets you to answer what I want you to answer without you being able to give me a half-hearted response mostly.

In this case I specifically wanted to know about your alexa progression.

Mostly subconscious to achieve that though.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:24 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:21 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:59 pm LC's ISO is pretty much spotless he's just not as obvious town as usual and I'm not sure what to make of it still.
okay so now you have lc as town but I called shenanigans on his wagon before it started so what exactly is my agenda here? to lose as mafia?
This is literally the exact reason I said I was softening my wolf read on you earlier.
well I just read all the posts in catch up and didn't see that or the wall so I guess I live in a parallel universe

Tbf I think I forgot to out the reasoning I just said I was softening my wolf read on you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:23 pm I think they have both been wolfy today in standard ways.

Please expand on this.

Wasn't alexa also your literal top town?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:22 pm I think I am ready for the backlash of saying this but I think the mafia are Alexa and Ilario hard townlocking each other tbh.

Lmao imagine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:21 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:59 pm LC's ISO is pretty much spotless he's just not as obvious town as usual and I'm not sure what to make of it still.
okay so now you have lc as town but I called shenanigans on his wagon before it started so what exactly is my agenda here? to lose as mafia?

This is literally the exact reason I said I was softening my wolf read on you earlier.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:16 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:58 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:40 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:38 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:37 am Unrelated but wtf was Alison's D1 read on you that game lol.
I don't really remember her read so idk

Which townreads do you think are controversial?
"just want to make sure this doesn't slip through the cracks cus of notification shenanigans, i was wondering whether your read that we are town because of the level of comfort in revealing that nanook pees while he drives was from made or alison?"

And anything that isn't alexa/illario/Esooa tbh.

Speaking of illario if you also wouldn't mind explaining that read I'd appreciate it.
Lmao yeah that was an interesting one

I didn't like ilario's interactions around alexa early, there were a couple posts that showed a combination of awkwardness and self awareness that reads as scummy to me. I think his trans handling was kinda meh, but that's harder to judge. I think he's mostly been pushing pro scum poe, although tbf he's not alone in that regard fmpov.

Its a bit of an ego tunnel atp I guess but I don't really care

Mac had a townie eod1, and I think the work he's done today is largely out of his scumrange. That may be a bit of an exaggeration, and the counterargument is that if he's mafia here he's likely trying his ass off given the playerlist, but yeah, I think given his reads and his play he's probably just town

Ender is a bit of a lazier read tbh, he reads similar to his play in scythe to me, and I have a decent record of correctly tolerating him, so I just locked it in.
Thanks. Wrt illario he has a very distinct dynamic with alexa and they're pretty much like mafia best buds in that regard and interwine their play a lot (source: having played with them a lot) and in the nicest way possible he's known for having really wild reads.

Mac's EoD was towny to me pretty much solely because I think he had a very real chance to get me flipped and decided not to (especially when Trans flipping town would be a bad look for him anyway). Tbh I don’t see really see where you're coming from with your point about his D2 though, I think it's been really wolfy tbh. Would you mind expanding on your read?

Tbh I pretty much agree exactly with what you've said about Ender, I'm just not going to town lock him over it.
how has my day 2 been wolfy?

I made like a huge wall on it earlier lol.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:14 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:13 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:12 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:10 pm brad what's your reads list right now?
Best to worst.

Alexaaaaaa
Esooa
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Ender
TSP
Nanook
What made Mac move up for you again?
His interaction with you and the frustration of being scumread.

Which interaction are you referring to?

I feel like me and Mac have interacted directly at least twice this game, maybe even three times.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:13 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:12 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:11 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:09 pm I have no idea how u manage to be a mobile only player
Especially on this site. Back reading on phone is difficult to retain information on the game.

Which is why I'm so much stronger when I'm on my laptop.
Lol does everyone remember it taking me like 3 hours to catch up during D1?
I just thought it was because you were high.

I was repeatedly distracted and had just gotten out of bed.

I'm 18, I have no intention of getting high lol.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:12 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:10 pm brad what's your reads list right now?
Best to worst.

Alexaaaaaa
Esooa
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Ender
TSP
Nanook

What made Mac move up for you again?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:11 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:09 pm I have no idea how u manage to be a mobile only player
Especially on this site. Back reading on phone is difficult to retain information on the game.

Which is why I'm so much stronger when I'm on my laptop.

Lol does everyone remember it taking me like 3 hours to catch up during D1?

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:09 pm I have no idea how u manage to be a mobile only player

If I wasn't I would never keep up with activity like this tbh.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:05 pmWhat’s ts?

The Syndicate.

ISOs only work upside down on mobile and literally everybody in this game has a painfully long one.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:41 pm What's the post cap in this game per day?

Oh my sweet summer child.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:01 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:57 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:53 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 pm Wiml shoulda just listened to what I was saying earlier, fwiw ur probs more similar to Alexa than you are to bk in style
about??
To ignore the pressure and just focus on solving
He’s most towniest when he’s just analyzing other slots
Ngl, solving is super easy to fake.

If there's one thing I struggle to fake it's probably my general attitude lol. I'm pretty sure Thunal knows how to read me for it pretty well now.
Ironically the thing I was townreading u for the entire game was ur general attitude and when I doubted that the thing I was scumrrading u for when I doubted u was ur solving

Yeah because I'm town lol.

My solving varies a lot just based on the game. I'm usually very ISO heavy but that's very hard to do with long ISOs on TS so I've been mostly playing this gane a but more like Anni than I usually would?

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:56 pm eh i guess LC's probably just town?

Probably but I'm not ready to lock him in yet.

LC's ISO is pretty much spotless he's just not as obvious town as usual and I'm not sure what to make of it still.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:53 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 pm Wiml shoulda just listened to what I was saying earlier, fwiw ur probs more similar to Alexa than you are to bk in style
about??
To ignore the pressure and just focus on solving
He’s most towniest when he’s just analyzing other slots

Ngl, solving is super easy to fake.

If there's one thing I struggle to fake it's probably my general attitude lol. I'm pretty sure Thunal knows how to read me for it pretty well now.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 pm Wiml shoulda just listened to what I was saying earlier, fwiw ur probs more similar to Alexa than you are to bk in style

I've forgotten what you were saying earlier tbh which is probably not a good indicator of me listening to it oops.

My playstyle gets compared to Esooa's a lot as well lol.

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:50 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:49 pm alexa counter-question while I'm still reading: do you agree with my take about his reads being much less passionate as scum?

I think in the wolf game he noticeably doesn't have that same degree of emotional investment in his reads that he has here.
in general yeah
i misread him for this in deck mafia though but yeah

Yeah so did I lol.

I think that was an off town game of his more than anything though.

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