The Syndicate

Just to check I haven't made any further meta mistakes.

@DrWilgy just to check, I am correct that you've come off a triple wolf rand streak and this would be your fourth wolf rand in a row if you were wolfing, right?

As for Ex, I'm just going to hold off saying much there for the moment still.

All I'll say wrt recent posts is that I think the frustration is real but I don't find it to be towny.

I think Wilgy's a villager, I just wish I had something there truly airtight so I could lock in the read and say I was confident leaving Roxy/Ex as my legacy.

Will try to look into his ISO more before EoD.

I'm back.

Agreed with above

(Bunny peed on my socks so I'll be back later)

_ExLight wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:05 pm [VOTE: unvite] aubergine

Thank you.

I'm going to hold off discussing it for now.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:01 pm I don't like this.

Alignment-wise?

So like, please just take a break mate. I can talk with you about things later but I haven't deliberately been ignoring you other than to not case you and give you space. later when? i come back from a 4h break to see you both dogpiling on me when I'm not around im not gonna be around eod and only ...

also I miss splints this game and also SVS. :( I've got reasons to TR a few players, and as of now I'm looking at Epi, Lime & Kate. Hi everybody 😀 Hey Kate! Cool to finally play a game with you. I can't be certain, but I suspect we might have a decent yin-yang dynamic available to us, you and I...

_ExLight wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:49 pm as if you werent gonna vote me on F3 anyway lmfao anything i day you all just ignore

I'd really recommend unvoting and taking a break.

Mafia is stressful. Sorry if you've had a bad day.

So like, please just take a break mate.

I can talk with you about things later but I haven't deliberately been ignoring you other than to not case you and give you space.

I don't think Ex is the hit but the threat to self vote in F3 unfortunately needs to be taken seriously.

Ex, please take a break.

I veto an ex kill for a day Also I reviewed the Abigail view that Ex spoke about. Abigail saying Ex gets a day, then Ex saying that Abigail wouldn't have sr'd them 'this game' kinda comes across as bad faith. I have full faith in Abigail that if she thought her friend was a wolf then she'd push the...

But nah in all seriousness I think most likely fhe game has been hard because we've miscleared (w-Roxy) or because it wasn't hard to begin with and we've just been kicking the can because of shenanigans (w-Kate/Ex).

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:31 pm A silly gamestate is 9 times out of 10 a pro T gamestate. See champs 2023 game 1 d1. We went full silly.
Just gonna iterate. The reason the game is so hard now is because we didn't go full silly d1.

It's a shame we didn't have any town PRs to flashwagon D1.

Wilgy, what was your read on Lime Coke during D1? Particularly during later D1 when you had a more informed opinion. Pretty sure I iterated this but I had no read. LC wasn't around, but players I trusted had their vote there so I figured it was fine. I don't remember back skimming LC either, but I ...

Wilgy, what was your read on Lime Coke during D1?

Particularly during later D1 when you had a more informed opinion.

I think I'm noticing something. In Roxy's play this game, it almost feels as if there's more internal reasoning coming through than cyberpunk. Hard to gauge if this is reflective of time allowed in thread (how busy one is) or alignment though. This is something that seems to be way more prevalent i...

The only vote movements after Roxy's vote were Wilgy onto Abi and Epi onto Lime.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:22 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:20 am Meh ok maybe there was a point where me/JJJ/Wilgy/Abigail/Falcon were all voting there and Roxy was 6th, I'll have to fact check.
Pretty sure I was on Quin already by that point.

Oh yeah, you were on Quin and not on Lime initially.

Yeah you're correct then. Roxy only put it up to 5

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:20 am Meh ok maybe there was a point where me/JJJ/Wilgy/Abigail/Falcon were all voting there and Roxy was 6th, I'll have to fact check.

I just checked and yeah ok fair Roxy did put the wagon on 6.

Meh ok maybe there was a point where me/JJJ/Wilgy/Abigail/Falcon were all voting there and Roxy was 6th, I'll have to fact check.

I'm more confused by the fact that Roxy thought she was hammering Lime and want to hear her explanation on that.

Even if hammer was enabled D1, Lime wasn't at enough votes to hammer.

I don't have a problem with Roxy's vote on Lime when she did but I no longer TR it inherently.

Also want to point out that in both this game and the quoted game, Roxy only votes the wolf after the point where they seen to be doomed without any hope of rescue.

But I'd argue that there's a difference in how it came about that could justify the extra explanation there Wilgy: 1. Roxy had been defending the previous owner of the slot somewhat so she would have needed to explain a lot more to revoke her townread. 2. In this game, Roxy was given a lot of reason...

I wish I could see what the wagons were in that game lol.

I dont think Roxy is certainly a wolf or anything even with this being the case but I'd definitely have her PoE at this point.

(This is pocketing)

Unrelated but on the topic of Wilgy I think the fact the EoD sort-of-trolling is something you'd see from a villager having fun and not a wolf on his 4th wolf rand feeling absolutely miserable.

I missed it at first because the partner she voted was a sub and the vote was hidden at the bottom of the post. But here you are, Roxy voting a wolf partner of hers who's outed: https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?p=994142#p994142 I'll review. I was brewing on Ex's big rainbow all night and...

@DrWilgy you seem to know more about Abi/Ex's relationship than me. Would wolf-Ex be concerned about the potential for Abigail to confidently find him as a wolf and bury him? Don't know that one. Abigail knows Ex best though. I would've trusted Abigail however they go on that slot. Abigail is good ...

I think that settles if Wilgy's meta read on Roxy is trustworthy in any case.

I missed it at first because the partner she voted was a sub and the vote was hidden at the bottom of the post.

But here you are, Roxy voting a wolf partner of hers who's outed:
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 42#p994142

I've just read a Roxy wolf game where she voted her wolf partner.

So much for meta.

@DrWilgy LMAO

I already said I think Brad didn't talk with/about his mate at all. When Wiml (iirc) said that Brad's Iso was easy to analyze for spew he probably realised while he was pushed very vocal by Falcon, Wiml and Jay, that his chop is certain and it's better to not post more. Roxy was present in the game...

Me being frustrated is uncalled for? Me being ignored and accused in every post you mention my name is what's uncalled for. You're literally avoiding interacting with me and keep accusing me of shit without bothering to even hear what I have to say. This feels almost like a personal attack on me an...

Shrug, just not gonna react to that sort of stuff further

"Widely" suspected because my contributions are literally falling on deaf ears. Widely in huge quotes because literally only you keep insisting on pushing that I'm scummy on literally no grounds other than this insane PoE and paranoia. If you get me mislynched I'll be extremely pissed off...

We have one more day, isn't it? 8 hours "Poll runs till Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:00 am" I looked at 12 and Fri but am was little and uninportant :goofp: Eod is at midnight for me, the forum gives me my hour in the poll, btw. I made the same mistake in a previous game on this site and panicked ...

I haven't read Wilgy's ISO in Champs yet but if it's broadly similar to this game in terms of him just being very repeatedly towny on a micro level and solving in similar ways then I'm probably happy calling him town and saying the last wolf is in Ex and Roxy.

ExLight, I skimmed your post but I wanted to read myself her Iso before looking in detail at your conclusions. You're good. I'm mad at Wiml microblogging his volatile thoughts and ignoring anything I say, not you. Roxy Don't be mad. I think Wiml is in his own world of solving. Yeah, this is a prett...

I already said I think Brad didn't talk with/about his mate at all. When Wiml (iirc) said that Brad's Iso was easy to analyze for spew he probably realised while he was pushed very vocal by Falcon, Wiml and Jay, that his chop is certain and it's better to not post more. Roxy was present in the game...

I already said I think Brad didn't talk with/about his mate at all. When Wiml (iirc) said that Brad's Iso was easy to analyze for spew he probably realised while he was pushed very vocal by Falcon, Wiml and Jay, that his chop is certain and it's better to not post more. Roxy was present in the game...

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:21 am We have one more day, isn't it?

8 hours

Just to get it out there so I don't have any more complaints of "why aren't you doing x thing?" my current to-do list is: - ISO Roxy (including old games). - Read Wilgy's ISO in S10G1 champs to see how tryhard town-Wilgy plays. - ISO Ex/Kate again. With the order being somewhat flexible. I...

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