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by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:17 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Gavial wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:49 pm TSP and Sabie are Town.
LP and Dolby are Town.
Martin is Likely Town.

(Guillo/Falcon/Sean) Contain at least 1 Wolf
(Marmot/Dizzy/Nanook/Lime Coke) Contain at least 1 Wolf
(Dizzy/Guillo) One flips Wolf, flip the other they probably also Wolf.

Left with Jack/Wilgy/Mac/Sig/NAA where I’m pretty sure if there is a wolf there is never 3 but possible on 2 but more likely 1 but probable for 0 wolves.
I think I'd like explanations on TSP, Sabie, and myself

also why both groupings contain at least one wolf

disagree that dizzy/guillo are w/w and not sure how you're getting there
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:14 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

I think that LP's posts are becoming townier as I move through the thread, ex: 301 talking about reasons to not sus Gav in such a manner that I don't think is designed to pocket him or is w/w
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:12 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

I'm gonna give Dizzy a day pass on my vote
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:09 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:04 am LP is IC level town
lol.

I will say them talking about their style in terms of making reads is making me sus them less, but also, no
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:07 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

eh, I don't agree with Guillo's posts sussing LP bc I don't think that using a null person's meta read on someone else is actually AI but w/e
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:06 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

LinearPoint wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:13 am A few other short reads.

Sig has an odd posting style, but I've seen it from Town Sig and nothing stands out as an obvious Mafia tell at the moment.
Dolby is weird. Their either a really ballsy Mafia suggesting a D0 Massclaim or Town since Mafia are going to want to shy away from blatantly saying something that would benefit the Mafia a lot more than Town.
Seanzie I don't know about. On the one hand they jumped pretty quickly on the massclaim idea, but their posts seem to indicate an actual through process was going on and they eventually realized it probably hurts Town more than it helps.
Wiggly is Spy or Pyro, maybe a Spyro. Part of me wants to give him a Town pass just because Mafia hardclaiming immediately is not something I really see them wanting to do especially if they are claiming a protective role like Pyro.
Guillotine feels weird, they are just all over the place and I can't tell if they are fishing to see what people will latch onto and bandwagon with or just a quirky person.
Falcon is oddly very active this game which they were pretty inactive when I've seen them and they were Town and based on what Guillotine said earlier about Falcon's scum game I'd say this is probably going to end up flipping Mafia.
LC and Mac I'm both going to put in the category of I don't want to see an early game lynch of them, they are high prio Mafia kill targets I feel so they'll die off or be revealed as Mafia eventually be it through checking them or living a long time.
I don't like this post.

There are to many reads that are null/shades. There aren't any real townreads, or even wolf reads here, the closest being Sig more than Wilgy I guess? But both reads are so watered down that it hurts. The only read that is actually decently strong and not watered down or leaving room to go back on is the scum read on Falcon, which there is some continuity with them voting Falcon rn at least.

It's basically a whole lot of words pretending to be a whole lot of reads, but it really isn't reads.

Also the characterization that I was suggesting a massclaim is bad bc I was advocating against the idea but I feel like that's not reading into what I was saying rather than wolfy.

The only thing that I like is the blatant PR speculation on Wilgy that I think might not come from mafia but I still kinda want to vote here tbh
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:59 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

eh I want to say Guillo's meta on me is fine
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:57 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:36 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:16 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
was there a specific post or series of posts you could point at as pinging you
Spoiler: show
Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:33 pm 16, 4, 18, 1, 13, 9, 7



That is my RNG POE


So Seanzie, falcon, TSP, Dolby, Nook, LP, & Jack...let's start flipping these goons
I like that but not LP.
Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:02 am
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:10 am
Dolby wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 pm Also don't see why a claim swap would happen?

If one goes down the other would go down
Claimswaps can happen late game when the remaining mafia members hope to win with both people involved alive.

Granted, I do concede that it is probably not super likely to happen.
What's not super likely? That Maf use claim swaps late game, or that Maf have multiple members alive late game?


Sean is in my sus pile
I can sheep you!
Inside the spoiler but post #1 Gavial takes Falcon's RNG team guess and says "I'm fine with all of them except for LP" which is taking a joke post seriously and literally just being "Fine" with the rest of the names being voted off.

Post #2 just yells out "I can sheep you!" towards Falcon for saying he sus's Sean. Like is he fine with sheeping Falcon because he agrees that Sean is wolfie orrrrrr...?
I took the first post as kinda jokingly sticking up for a friend perhaps

Second post might be kinda pockety towards falcon
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:56 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:01 pm From the game state, Dolby Rand Town.
Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:02 pm He has the least potential to be wolf basically is what I’m saying.
Based on Gamestate and who’s said and what’s said.
I want to know why because from what I've seen at this point I had only talked about mech and the only person who outted a read on me was Guillo who did townread me but yeah

If anything I'd expect to be scumread based off gamestate bc I hadn't been pushed for only doing easyish meta talk
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:54 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:54 pm Still standby this read:
Falcon/Guillotine/Seanzie contains 1 Wolf and 2 Town.
lol what?
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:54 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

I was initially happy that most posts seemed to be one liners but I can't alignment read them for shit
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:52 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

sig wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:35 pm I"m gonna go ahead throw a vote onto gullitone for the time being. We haven't played alot, but we've played enough they should know i'm an easy D1 mislynch, gave some very weak reasoning, and did just not enough set up to throw on a vote and not move it.
this seems pretty preemptive

also no idea why Guillo is townreading me
by Dolby
Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:46 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

oh thank fuck this didn't hit 1k
by Dolby
Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:34 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

LinearPoint wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:26 pm Honestly don't even know why I thought it was since I don't think anything is.
Spy's sapper is
by Dolby
Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:22 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

LinearPoint wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:20 pm Actually rereading that it might not be a 1-shto ability like I thought it was.
it does not appear to be one shot yeah
by Dolby
Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:11 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:02 pm
Dolby wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:59 pm It cool if I talk about what abilities I think certain roles should use tonight or nah
Go for it!
Medic shouldn't roleblock tonight

I personally am leaning towards Soldier not doing roleblock boost and using one of the other two abilities, but also should check if it can be combined with engineer

I'm debating the potential confirmatory power of pyro's redirection, haven't come to a strong take on that yet

I think that demo should use sticky launcher but this comes down mainly to I don't like roleblocking N0

leaning towards scout should fast run but idk

Engineers should always be building sentrys tonight. This could lead to something crumbling first later on but I think it's best to have a safe something established

yeah that's it
by Dolby
Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:02 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

tbh I'm not happy with Wilgy's pyro posting

it's probs NAI thought
by Dolby
Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:59 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

It cool if I talk about what abilities I think certain roles should use tonight or nah
by Dolby
Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:51 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:11 am
Dolby wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:45 pm Yeah I personally don't see a benefit to a mass claim

Tells mafia who we all are and since they know what they can do it gives them more of an advantage I think, given they know what they as a faction can do and we don't. Mafia aren't going to claimswap anyway I don't think, except near the end. And honestly if we stop on yeeting "x" in f5 after they're tracked to "y" who died because they claim medic and no one CCs that's kinda on us?
I agree in regards to a total claim. I am more curious about the merits of a color claim. So no roles, just red team or blue team.
eh, I'm pretty sleep deprived rn and might go back on this

but

see what I just said with regards to fullclaim

Let's as a thought exercise say that all mafia are red, bam they know that 5 town contain 5 specific roles, and can probably make reads for roles within there. The information gained by town is less than that by mafia, and honestly, same for a 2/2 split.

and for what? to prevent them from claimswapping later? Don't think it would be that effective. The motivation for a claimswap is going to be some mechanical info being outted which makes the mafia look bad probably, and it's going to be bad on us for not catching it if we don't.

tl;dr, mafia gain more info and I don't think stopping a late game claimswap is very +EV for town
by Dolby
Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:45 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Yeah I personally don't see a benefit to a mass claim

Tells mafia who we all are and since they know what they can do it gives them more of an advantage I think, given they know what they as a faction can do and we don't. Mafia aren't going to claimswap anyway I don't think, except near the end. And honestly if we stop on yeeting "x" in f5 after they're tracked to "y" who died because they claim medic and no one CCs that's kinda on us?
by Dolby
Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Also don't see why a claim swap would happen?

If one goes down the other would go down
by Dolby
Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:19 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:07 pm Laying down slank cover for day zero also someone please read the setup and say some false things about it so I can contribute
we win if all town chain with the role below them on the setup list
by Dolby
Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:37 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

1/4th of the way to Dolby (4)

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