The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:02 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:23 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:22 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:18 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:16 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:07 pm

Mn, Mn, Mn, Mfna, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mfna, Mn m mnmneh, Mfna, mn Mfna.

Dolby (v), Wilgy(v), Falcon(v), Gav (null), guillo (v), Jack (v), LC (v), Linear Point (v), Mac (v), Marmot (v), Martin (v), Nanook (null), NAA(wolf), Sig (null), TSP (wolfish)

is what I'd reading this as

No, read mine, that is the correct translation scum.

Guillo, I find your continuous insistence on finding reasons to scumread me, particularly above Nanook since D2 incredibly frustrating, and also, my translation is basically the same as yours

Well, you did tmi me bruh. Like you keep saying that you town lean me and that the read is not solid which is a very fencey read if I may add cause it displays a total lack of willingness to commit to a read, but then you say that Gavial was being pushed by mostly scum (who are they?) and aside from them, me.

I gotta call you out on that because if you flip wolf, it makes me look really bad if I don't.

And the translation is not the same. Gavial is not a "null" for Wilgy, it's scum. This one "Mn m mnmneh" looks like a null.

Nanook and Sabie

On Day One

the Mn m mnmneh is definetely a sus read the post I'm literally saying that more letters are more scum under the system before he posts

Mhooo mhoo!!

Mn mnmnh mh mn. MN!!!

If I'm misreading you and you don't sus NAA please reply with mmph

If I'm right please reply with Mhooo mhoo!!

i will certainly admit to not having solid reads but yeah

if i had to gth that null tier id put gav and jack v and idk the other 4

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:36 pm tbh if we're just killing nanook we should just be killing nanook

yes

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:34 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:33 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:32 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:25 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:24 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:22 pm Honestly Guillo your constant attempts to sus me are keeping you below LC and LP in my TRs

I don't give a shit tbh. If I lived in fear of anyone sussing me for my reads on them, I would not be suited to play this game.

Your read is bad and you should feel bad

You are TMIng me town again here by the way. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So you either commit to townread me and say that your town lean on me is solid as a diamond or you are TMIing me.

Guess I'm TMIing you and you should vote me harder

Or I can just shoot you tonight (I think I will).

honestly I'm not even a bad shot but you've been reaching for reasons to scumread me for a WHILE and it feels a lot like motivated reasoning

the best I can ask is if you see me/Nanook w/w

Nanook is one of the votes so actually

[VOTE: Gaviel] aubergine

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:32 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:25 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:24 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:22 pm Honestly Guillo your constant attempts to sus me are keeping you below LC and LP in my TRs

I don't give a shit tbh. If I lived in fear of anyone sussing me for my reads on them, I would not be suited to play this game.

Your read is bad and you should feel bad

You are TMIng me town again here by the way. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So you either commit to townread me and say that your town lean on me is solid as a diamond or you are TMIing me.

Guess I'm TMIing you and you should vote me harder

it isn't on the hour bc that's when poll closes

at xx:48

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:29 pm What time is EoD.

4 hours, 15 minutes from now

I kinda that you are taking me saying it as me telling you to feel bad unironically and I don't want to give the impression that I want that. it was a reference to the "and you should feel bad" zoidberg meme

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:24 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:22 pm Honestly Guillo your constant attempts to sus me are keeping you below LC and LP in my TRs

I don't give a shit tbh. If I lived in fear of anyone sussing me for my reads on them, I would not be suited to play this game.

Your read is bad and you should feel bad

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:22 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:18 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:16 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:07 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:50 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:43 pm

Wilgy, maybe you can make a reads list, with less mphhs being more towny, and more mphhs being more scummy

if you can't list a player, then do separate lines, with the 1st line being teh first player on the player list, second line being second, and so on (skipping dead people, or you could include them)

I conquer @DrWilgy

Mn, Mn, Mn, Mfna, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mfna, Mn m mnmneh, Mfna, mn Mfna.

Dolby (v), Wilgy(v), Falcon(v), Gav (null), guillo (v), Jack (v), LC (v), Linear Point (v), Mac (v), Marmot (v), Martin (v), Nanook (null), NAA(wolf), Sig (null), TSP (wolfish)

is what I'd reading this as

No, read mine, that is the correct translation scum.

Guillo, I find your continuous insistence on finding reasons to scumread me, particularly above Nanook since D2 incredibly frustrating, and also, my translation is basically the same as yours

Well, you did tmi me bruh. Like you keep saying that you town lean me and that the read is not solid which is a very fencey read if I may add cause it displays a total lack of willingness to commit to a read, but then you say that Gavial was being pushed by mostly scum (who are they?) and aside from them, me.

I gotta call you out on that because if you flip wolf, it makes me look really bad if I don't.

And the translation is not the same. Gavial is not a "null" for Wilgy, it's scum. This one "Mn m mnmneh" looks like a null.

Nanook and Sabie

On Day One

the Mn m mnmneh is definetely a sus read the post I'm literally saying that more letters are more scum under the system before he posts

Honestly Guillo your constant attempts to sus me are keeping you below LC and LP in my TRs

the only difference being that he clearly hard wolfreads NAA which I'm not sure how you aren't getting

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:16 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:07 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:50 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:34 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:49 pm

How is this player allowed to just post this and get by in beyond comprehension.

Mh mphm mhfn. Mhph mph mh mf mph.

Wilgy, maybe you can make a reads list, with less mphhs being more towny, and more mphhs being more scummy

if you can't list a player, then do separate lines, with the 1st line being teh first player on the player list, second line being second, and so on (skipping dead people, or you could include them)

I conquer @DrWilgy

Mn, Mn, Mn, Mfna, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mfna, Mn m mnmneh, Mfna, mn Mfna.

Dolby (v), Wilgy(v), Falcon(v), Gav (null), guillo (v), Jack (v), LC (v), Linear Point (v), Mac (v), Marmot (v), Martin (v), Nanook (null), NAA(wolf), Sig (null), TSP (wolfish)

is what I'd reading this as

No, read mine, that is the correct translation scum.

Guillo, I find your continuous insistence on finding reasons to scumread me, particularly above Nanook since D2 incredibly frustrating, and also, my translation is basically the same as yours

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:07 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:50 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:34 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:21 pm @DrWilgy
@MacDougall
@LinearPoint
@Lime Coke
@Dolby
@NotAnAxehole

I want you 6 to remember something very important.
TSP being Mafia Sniper confirms Falcon as Mafia.

Mphh

How is this player allowed to just post this and get by in beyond comprehension.

Mh mphm mhfn. Mhph mph mh mf mph.

Wilgy, maybe you can make a reads list, with less mphhs being more towny, and more mphhs being more scummy

if you can't list a player, then do separate lines, with the 1st line being teh first player on the player list, second line being second, and so on (skipping dead people, or you could include them)

I conquer @DrWilgy

Mn, Mn, Mn, Mfna, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mn, Mfna, Mn m mnmneh, Mfna, mn Mfna.

Dolby (v), Wilgy(v), Falcon(v), Gav (null), guillo (v), Jack (v), LC (v), Linear Point (v), Mac (v), Marmot (v), Martin (v), Nanook (null), NAA(wolf), Sig (null), TSP (wolfish)

is what I'd reading this as

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:56 pm but maybe it's just w/w with some last ditch efforts and nanook is just looking for someone to point out the obvious, which I will not do

I don't think they're w/w after Nanook said that Gav TMIed last night

but yeah if Nanook flips v Gav can be a wagon

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:50 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:49 pm The D1 Gav wagon to be clear

I completely forgot about that wagon, I'mma go back and look at it.

Do you remember if sabie was a wagon when the Gav wagon existed?

I'm probs not the person to ask about D1 stuff but I feel that Sabie as a force was kinda newer than Gav, and Gav, aside from Guillo at points (?) was only being really pushed by scum in that world

The D1 Gav wagon to be clear

Also if Nanook is red I think that it softclears Gav and I'd have to look at the progression of the Gav wagon but iirc that means that except Marmot the Gav wagon was entirely scum-constructed

tbh I'm at like

Nanook always being a hit and if he isn't the probability that the Seanzie wagon was pure rises to about 35%

I'd personally say that I'm not ISPing this game but also I don't have a solid read on about 6 slots so maybe I should do more idk, I think we've got a hit today though and it really isn't required

I have non-solid townleans on Guillo, NAA, Mac, most concerned about Mac

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:41 pm Dolby has outposted me, what world is this?

Dolby (Marmot total X 4)

Ok but seriously, most games on here I join I sub in just so that a MK doesn't happen, or I'm subbing in on game start so it can start without an afk slot. In either of those cases most of the time I don't really have the time to commit to the game, and that leads to Dolby (4).

Or I'm multitabling irresponsibly, which does happen a lot tbh

(with one exception that it was in signups so long I forgot about it)

Yeah sure

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

no I don't really have a take on falcon, but this is fine

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:12 am Maybe it is just Nanook and 2 of Wiggly, Sig, and Falcon.

I hope it is but

it's probably not

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:15 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:13 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:11 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:10 am Anyone in that tier I don't feel like I have a confident read on socially

That said given two medic claims Sig/Falcon probably aren't w/w since there's a greater than 50% chance they stopped a kill imo

I honestly just wanna know whom @sig protected.

I don't think that that is neccessary

Like, yes it's great if they got a correct protect, but if they claim, mafia knows whether or not they can target Marmot tonight. I personally think that it's just likeliest that Marmot or Mac were targetted and knowing another protection probably wouldn't help

Yes but my theory is Marmot/Falcon/TSP wolf team.

Meaning if that is the case. (I as I said before can be wrong about that hunch but still) Falcon’s protect us Fake and Sig has the real clear.

Nanook is saying that this is Gav TMIing that the mafia kill was protected last night

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:51 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:32 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:30 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:22 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:15 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:13 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:11 am

I honestly just wanna know whom @sig protected.

I don't think that that is neccessary

Like, yes it's great if they got a correct protect, but if they claim, mafia knows whether or not they can target Marmot tonight. I personally think that it's just likeliest that Marmot or Mac were targetted and knowing another protection probably wouldn't help

Yes but my theory is Marmot/Falcon/TSP wolf team.

Meaning if that is the case. (I as I said before can be wrong about that hunch but still) Falcon’s protect us Fake and Sig has the real clear.

Is this not just tmi that the kill wasn't block and it hit a protect?

Mafia wouldn't know whether they hit a protect or RB would they?

...yes? That's the point? That gav is tmi-ing that the nk hit a protect and wasn't blocked...because there are currently two block claims out, two protects claimed, and a doc that hasn't claimed a target yet, so from town pov there isn't necessarily a clear in the doc protects

"if that is the case" referring to me saying that I think that a doc protection is more likely than me or LC having blocked the mafia kill

basically, this isn't TMI

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:52 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:48 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:35 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

We should quit these asinine arguments based on NAI/mech fuckery and just kill everyone from the Seanzie wagon day 1 until we hit a wolf. If town saved mafia Sabie over town Seanzie I'll gladly just laugh and move on the next game. This game needs better direction.

Before some giant brain points out I was on that wagon, yes I know, feel free to flip me idc.

I said this before, you are finally sheeping me on this? What took you so long?

Let’s begin with [VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

dude

why've you taken every chance to try to vote me today

Because someone on Seanzie’s wagon gotta be a wolf besides Sabie or i’d be ashamed of being part of this town tbh.

Yeah that's something that I've been thinking about

it's not TSP imo

Mac was on super early and wasn't a part of it

I'm v

and imo NAA looks better in terms of how the wagon actually got there for being town, and in content, than Nanook

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:51 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:49 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:47 am Or Nanook, why i keep forgetting he was part of that CFD

bro

I got on like

an hour before any of the rest of them did

I was on Seanzie before it was cool

Why did you get on Seanzie?

I didn't want to get on a pileon and I liked getting on Seanzie better than the others with votes

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:32 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:30 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:22 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:15 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:13 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:11 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:10 am Anyone in that tier I don't feel like I have a confident read on socially

That said given two medic claims Sig/Falcon probably aren't w/w since there's a greater than 50% chance they stopped a kill imo

I honestly just wanna know whom @sig protected.

I don't think that that is neccessary

Like, yes it's great if they got a correct protect, but if they claim, mafia knows whether or not they can target Marmot tonight. I personally think that it's just likeliest that Marmot or Mac were targetted and knowing another protection probably wouldn't help

Yes but my theory is Marmot/Falcon/TSP wolf team.

Meaning if that is the case. (I as I said before can be wrong about that hunch but still) Falcon’s protect us Fake and Sig has the real clear.

Is this not just tmi that the kill wasn't block and it hit a protect?

Mafia wouldn't know whether they hit a protect or RB would they?

...yes? That's the point? That gav is tmi-ing that the nk hit a protect and wasn't blocked...because there are currently two block claims out, two protects claimed, and a doc that hasn't claimed a target yet, so from town pov there isn't necessarily a clear in the doc protects

"if that is the case" referring to me saying that I think that a doc protection is more likely than me or LC having blocked the mafia kill

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:47 am Or Nanook, why i keep forgetting he was part of that CFD

bro

I got on like

an hour before any of the rest of them did

I was on Seanzie before it was cool

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:35 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

We should quit these asinine arguments based on NAI/mech fuckery and just kill everyone from the Seanzie wagon day 1 until we hit a wolf. If town saved mafia Sabie over town Seanzie I'll gladly just laugh and move on the next game. This game needs better direction.

Before some giant brain points out I was on that wagon, yes I know, feel free to flip me idc.

I said this before, you are finally sheeping me on this? What took you so long?

Let’s begin with [VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

dude

why've you taken every chance to try to vote me today

I have no idea why @DrWilgy is voting Jack rn

Hi Jack

what do you think is the world if Nanook v?

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:19 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:15 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:13 am Although I will say that TSP above Marmot is weird.
Like I know you really think TSP is town Dolby but he shouldn’t be above Marmot.

Ok so basically

I don't think that he has the mech knowledge to claim right there and right then as wolf unless teammed with Marmot and idk they preplanned that bus assuming that sniper was already on Sabie

He didn’t directly claim though and technically speaking if he had to he could have denied it a bit.
He only said “Vig” he used that specific word instead of Sniper.
So it doesn’t make him super town it just makes him wanting to kill Sabie and he was briefly pushing them which I’ve played with TSP before in my very first game where we both hard bussed each other and he won F3 doing so.

Like I can definitely see him and marmot making that kinda play but I can also be terribly wrong on this so idk.

idk if it's in the site meta here to actively line up a shot on Sabie (assuming no scum pyro) but I wouldn't do it personally

which imo he 100% did if Marmot town

Don't really know what Sig thinks after reading their ISO but I kinda like their content surrounding Sabie and them voting Nanook

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:13 am Although I will say that TSP above Marmot is weird.
Like I know you really think TSP is town Dolby but he shouldn’t be above Marmot.

Ok so basically

I don't think that he has the mech knowledge to claim right there and right then as wolf unless teammed with Marmot and idk they preplanned that bus assuming that sniper was already on Sabie

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:11 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:10 am Anyone in that tier I don't feel like I have a confident read on socially

That said given two medic claims Sig/Falcon probably aren't w/w since there's a greater than 50% chance they stopped a kill imo

I honestly just wanna know whom @sig protected.

I don't think that that is neccessary

Like, yes it's great if they got a correct protect, but if they claim, mafia knows whether or not they can target Marmot tonight. I personally think that it's just likeliest that Marmot or Mac were targetted and knowing another protection probably wouldn't help

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:09 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:07 am yeah Gav I'll work with you for the moment

I'm like near collapse rn tbh

Also haven't read the most recent 400 or so posts

If TSP kills me tonight can you do me a favour and vote Falcon for me?

I'll give you a yes, provisionally

Anyone in that tier I don't feel like I have a confident read on socially

That said given two medic claims Sig/Falcon probably aren't w/w since there's a greater than 50% chance they stopped a kill imo

yeah Gav I'll work with you for the moment

I'm like near collapse rn tbh

Also haven't read the most recent 400 or so posts

I think that I'm like

Dolby

TSP
Marmot

Lime Coke
LinearPoint

Guillo
NAA
Mac



Gav
Jack
Martin
Sig
Wilgy
Falcon

Nanook

Something something I am not happy with being lumped in with the Seanzie CfDers and there was no way that I could reasonably that to have happened an hour later

I'm not 100% sure that I've seen a sig post since D1 tbh

TSP is just

A really bad kill

And the circumstances of his claim seem really good even if I assume Marmot w for some reason

do not go there

tbh I really disagree teh argument that Jack and Nanook are optimal bc of roleblocks

like, there are worlds where they are v/v

Also get the town AtE vibes I really can't see anything that seems town indicative from him besides that

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:54 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:44 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:42 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:16 pm I still think it's more likely that Marmot was doc saved successfully than scum kill was roleblocked, but also, Nanook was even worse looking on the CFD than NAA imo and should probably just go

What makes you think that?

A doc save is more likely than a successful town roleblock just in general

and I kinda think that Nanook isn't the carrier

Jack could be I guess

I don't understand why a doc save has a better chance of success than an RB....like, at all. Explain that theory to me plz

Scum are going to give the nightkill to the person least likely to be tracked or roleblocked, and when there are more mafia, the chances of an individual roleblock blockign the kill go down. In addition, there typically isn't much benefit to mafia having X person carry the kill beyond dodging block/track/optimal person to be caught watching

In comparison, when there are limited good kills, it's easier for a doc to get the right one, and when doc dodging, maf are giving up the opportunity to do a better kill

Also in my experience doc protections succeed more often than roleblocks

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:42 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:16 pm I still think it's more likely that Marmot was doc saved successfully than scum kill was roleblocked, but also, Nanook was even worse looking on the CFD than NAA imo and should probably just go

What makes you think that?

A doc save is more likely than a successful town roleblock just in general

and I kinda think that Nanook isn't the carrier

Jack could be I guess

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:34 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:21 pm @DrWilgy
@MacDougall
@LinearPoint
@Lime Coke
@Dolby
@NotAnAxehole

I want you 6 to remember something very important.
TSP being Mafia Sniper confirms Falcon as Mafia.

Mphh

How is this player allowed to just post this and get by in beyond comprehension.

Mh mphm mhfn. Mhph mph mh mf mph.

Wilgy, maybe you can make a reads list, with less mphhs being more towny, and more mphhs being more scummy

if you can't list a player, then do separate lines, with the 1st line being teh first player on the player list, second line being second, and so on (skipping dead people, or you could include them)

Gav, I want to look at the world, at least as an exercise, where Marmot and TSP are both 100% town

Who is the scum team then?

I kinda want to say that NAA is town tbh