The Syndicate

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:16 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:10 pm lc why do you tr mac

I've said this before he wouldn't be going after us like this as mafia, he probably just leaves us alone with a townread, jumps around elsewhere, then proceeds to night kill us.

ok so him being static on votes 1 and 2 on a wolf being scum isn't a cause for concern?

anne why do you tr mac

lc why do you tr mac

that point being when i still had 2 posts

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:28 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:25 pm I mean they have 10 posts but yeah they are more under the radar than rej and 112

I know you don't like it, but I'm reasonably certain 112 is town.

I mean

I still don't get why or how you can townread us at that point in the game

me moreso than 112

which is odd bc I found reasons to kinda like the later two

I mean they have 10 posts but yeah they are more under the radar than rej and 112

tbh I find it weird individually that both mac and michelle are pushing an anne w line on d1 and d2 (less so mac in pushing anne specifically) but I can't see it as scum pair motivated

The pushes from Michelle that I consider weird (discounting the one against me) are the same that I feel are weird from Mac, how do you feel about that?

but yeah she's probably town off of volume and how much wisdom wanted to interact with her

nanook i don't really know what you think about the game beyond one in mac/lc rn

ill skim the remaining 600 posts tomorrow, feel free to ama

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:22 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:11 pm

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:48 pm @Wisdom

I guess my concern here then is if you ISO'd these people why are there such few examples of things you actually find scummy or townie about them? I'm looking at your ISO now and you just call Guillo town with no reasoning after expressing that you were wary of him after misreading him a few times and were deferring to other people on that, but it seems like that line of thought doesn't really continue elsewhere?

Also your vote on Rando seems like RVS. Like I would have never gathered that you ISO'd him, found him scum, and decided to keep the vote from the content of your posts. The Michelle townread I buy because I see you've interacted with her probably the most out of anyone so I won't harp on that point.

I'm quite bad at making myself heard early on if I'm not invested and in a mind space where I can formulate well. @ilario can attest to this.

Rondo's ISO was pure fluff, I'm pretty sure I said it was pure fluff (implying I had read the ISO), don't know what I should have done differently.

I don't share every thought I have or ISO I do, don't think it's relevant really ^^

i can atttest. i havent seen anything scummy from wisdom

illario is honestly just so dead tonally that I want to vote them for it

i like Scotty's early game more than i thought i would

kinda thinking every non-wisdom scumread i had was wrong but tbh they were all weak minus falcon

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:11 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:07 pm Does anyone know what the heck the eggs are? I want an egg, but I don't even know what to look for. I looked at all of NAA's posts carefully including checking the source code and nothing jumped out, so idk what the eggs even could be. I don't even care about the game right now, I just want an egg.

I thought about this and decided I don't have enough time as it is to play I'll give the eggs to someone who'll use them well!

wisdom announcing that she's giving eggs to her teammates, colorized, 2022

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:25 pm

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:23 pm Why am I wrong on Lime Coke @MacDougall

Haven't played with him in a while so my read could be rusty there so thought he was fine.

I still think Wisdom is scummy

All of his posts are muted compared to his regular content. When I see LC post as town his town solving mindset blinds me and here he has an extremely dulled down version of it.

does anyone else feel this? and that he's outted maf

w/e I'll just read his iso later I've felt like he's been ~fine tbh

heck I'd probably say that wilgy is the towniest person on wisdom tbh

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:30 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:43 pm

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:55 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:25 am Haven't been here in a while, can someone remind me how to iso people?

Says this then doesn't ISO anyone according to her own ISO. So... she just asked this question to seem busy/townie? Cause otherwise what was the point of asking this question.

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:40 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:32 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:25 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:21 am

Hi! It has I missed playing with you!

Same! Reads so far?

Also goes out to @Michelle

So far I only have a townread on Michelle, everyone else is kinda meh.

Michelle is kind of more just tone/energy which I feel like I can read her correctly based off of that. The last Deck Mafia game she was mafia and I noticed her being a bit more subdued and caught her on it, but I ended up dying before I could actually get her voted off.
This game she seems to have way more energy and is carefree in what she's doing. Like she's having way more fun with this game.

Fair enough. I got tricked by her in our recent encounter so wouldn't put too much emphasis on tone tbh, think tone is based on daily mood for her

Level 1 wolf read but subtly discrediting someone's town read without offering anything in return is wolfy in a vacuum.

I ISO'd Rando, Michelle and Guill. Think they were the top posters or the ones active on the page I was on at the time, don't really remember. I voted Rando after ISOing him, and later on said that he hadn't anything of value in his ISO, didn't care about bringing it up or pushing him further before he had his wolfy reaction to the (whoever it was) opening.

After that he hasn't really done much but I kinda lost confidence when I realized how many people I've yet to see, don't know if he'd be one of the top posters with little to none content if his wolf mates kinda bailed on him.

I do not feel town energy here Wisdom. I'd think you'd be able to at least have some slight inkling of people at this point but I haven't seen that. Every other post feels like an excuse as to why you don't have reads.

wilgy is just town

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:26 pm

this isn't going off to bed, this is a warrior with a sword, mage cap, and crystal ball

multi-class wizard, fortune teller, and solider

112 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:40 pm i have no reads at this time except wisdom feels off

this would be much townier if it came before wisdom became lead wagon

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:17 pm I’m being sold on what Anne is putting up RE wisdom
[VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine

I like this vote placement here bc it makes teh wagon more legitimate (first sreious vote outside anne/lc)

the anne/lc/wisdom world supposes that lc and anne planned to bus wisdom starting from around post 350, wisdom was cool with it, and decided that they were gonna call lc out for sheeping wisdom and having tonal problems or something

this only happens if wisdom tells scum chat that she wants to be bussed d1 and doesn't want to play

i actually don't remember who tried to change it, just that you and michelle had similar "wisdom yeet is uselss bc nai" when i felt it applied more to nanook of the wagons

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:14 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:13 pm tl;dr

at every point up until shortly before eod it looked like wisdom was the inevitible yeet

ok so who tried to change that from occurring because theyre probably a wolf in most games

you, michelle, and dead town lmao

and scotty kinda

tl;dr

at every point up until shortly before eod it looked like wisdom was the inevitible yeet

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:11 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:09 pm This game had so much chaos I probably wouldn't have needed to ever bus Wisdom as mafia js

entirely possible you just thought LC would go over under the weight of the town voting him and never felt comfortable jumping to him to save wisdom you'd been level 1 distancing that 99% of mafia do that out themselves by trying to imply how weird that would be

this is kinda just revisionist

wisdom had like 6 votes at a point and lc didn't crack 3/4 votes until like an hour before eod

michelle, who looks good and bad from Wisdom's flip

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:57 am Like she shows up, makes 25 posts and doesn't really offer any reads besides Guillo is town and then votes someone for a reason I can't discern. I'd like to think a townie would have more developed reasoning after 25 posts even if the reasoning isn't necessarily agreeable/good.

yeah I still don't think that anne comes in with the specific intent of bussing a wolf who had only been wolfread by Wilgy at this point, and had gotten TRs from Illario and Guillo

In my experience with wolf wisdom they die sooner rather than later, but still

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:52 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:49 am Btw Lime Coke are you the same lime as Limestone?

This post is so wtf

lol anne why is this bad

Michelle, why did you vote me 2 minutes before eod and were you cognizant of how close teh votes were

Were you townreading LC at the time?

nanook doesn't actually have a check, he's saying that behvaior wise there's probably a mafia in there

wilgy remains town fyi

probably one of the first to seriously sus michelle, and had a problem with illario listing them as a town lean in the 200s

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:50 pm wisdom arguably spewed seanzie v with the "springing the trap" post sequence so I guess that could be why he died but that's such a weird kill, you always kill rondo first.

no lol.

you kill anne if she is town most of the time.

you kill seanzie if anne is mafia or if you are banking on Mac continuing to tunnel her.

not sure anyone here would bank on that so anne is probably just mafia lol.

I should probably made it more clear with "if your killing purely off of spew potential"

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:51 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:49 pm wisdom flipping red doesn't do anything for you on those slots? particularly anne?

of course it does

ok

so why is anne being grouped with LC still and why is LC your primary push still

Like I want to be clear here

I don't think that an LC push is neccessarily bad or that it isn't valid to view LC as the most sus player

but like

I think that they're pretty not partnered and naturally in sync with each other, and also that anne is pretty not partnered with wisdom from her end

why is that not factoring in for anne at least

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:51 am Michelle wisdom lime Sean are all villas

I am willing to agree with whoever said illario w

wisdom arguably spewed seanzie v with the "springing the trap" post sequence so I guess that could be why he died but that's such a weird kill, you always kill rondo first.

wisdom flipping red doesn't do anything for you on those slots? particularly anne?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:45 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:44 pm Mac do you think that Wisdom was bussed by 2+ of their teammates or something

how many maf is there?

probably 3 left

Mac do you think that Wisdom was bussed by 2+ of their teammates or something

tl;dr

rondo, michelle, anne v in that order

mixed feelings on LC but I kinda think he's town

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:47 am [VOTE: Rando] aubergine

yeah rondo is just town

also some stuff from rondo's direction that goes to this but yeah rondo is just town

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:18 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:56 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:55 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:54 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:53 am My first post had an extra-special-fancy-dancy-code in it, and I'll give someone like 1.5 brownie points if they guess who my scumread is.

me!

no

Seanzie is wolf, confirmed.

I read the opening as wolf bait tbh
Feels like Rando triggered the trap

v

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:16 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:52 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:49 am Btw Lime Coke are you the same lime as Limestone?

No, it's BradLand, hi.

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Oh BlueKang! Hi, it's been a while!

i guess this could be fake, or real, but honestly I just kinda think that it's Mac or Nanook, probably Mac given the way that I remember him just trying to direct attention away from Wisdom in a similar way to how Michelle did.

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:25 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:21 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:16 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:52 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:49 am Btw Lime Coke are you the same lime as Limestone?

No, it's BradLand, hi.

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Oh BlueKang! Hi, it's been a while!

Hi! It has I missed playing with you!

Same! Reads so far?

Also goes out to @Michelle

yeah michelle is just a town that Wisdom wanted to interact with bc they like her.
LC gets the same treatment here specifically but eh

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:26 am @Michelle

Can you help me with Guill? I messed up reading him in the HP mash but I don't really see anything wolfy about him right now. You're more experienced lately, are you confident?

yeah michelle probably v. like I guess this could be w/w but this gives such big a wolf who specifically wants to vibe with a villager they like energy

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:11 pm

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:48 pm @Wisdom

I guess my concern here then is if you ISO'd these people why are there such few examples of things you actually find scummy or townie about them? I'm looking at your ISO now and you just call Guillo town with no reasoning after expressing that you were wary of him after misreading him a few times and were deferring to other people on that, but it seems like that line of thought doesn't really continue elsewhere?

Also your vote on Rando seems like RVS. Like I would have never gathered that you ISO'd him, found him scum, and decided to keep the vote from the content of your posts. The Michelle townread I buy because I see you've interacted with her probably the most out of anyone so I won't harp on that point.

I'm quite bad at making myself heard early on if I'm not invested and in a mind space where I can formulate well. @ilario can attest to this.

Rondo's ISO was pure fluff, I'm pretty sure I said it was pure fluff (implying I had read the ISO), don't know what I should have done differently.

I don't share every thought I have or ISO I do, don't think it's relevant really ^^

anne also v incidently but this is bc of anne and not wisdom

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:22 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:27 pm Speaking of Anne's reads being good.

[VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine

All hail the magic conch.

Decided to ISO Lime Coke.

This post kinda pings me. My experience with BK is that he tends to be very paranoid of me when he's towning, his play is not too different from Guill in that regard. The way he's treated me has sounded like he's trying to pocket Anne. Heck, at some point it sounded like he tried to pocket me, don't remember if that was before or after this post though.

I'm far from sold on LC v but I think that the context of this and the surrounding vote is that if it's w/w they're kinda making it so that the next day is going to be w/w and I don't think that LC does that? Wisdom votes LC the post after. Or they decided that Wisdom was a lost cause which is far more plausible

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:16 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.

I kinda think he's not bussing you at least, even though that's his signature move. I guess he could be pocketing me and I'm wrong but he sounds kinda spot on tbh

this is the only thing in the iso which actively feels anti-teammed, like she's trying to needle lc to more her view, or to view her more favorably by just interacting with him in a postive way

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:09 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:44 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:38 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:33 am I'm gonna be here for another 30 minutes to an hour

I've missed what happened overnight and I need to go soon again but. What's your thoughts on Nanook? I haven't really given him any attention this game. Same goes for Illario really.

man literally calls you scum and you ask him what he thinks of Nanook?

Man wanted to hang out in thread so I asked him what was on my mind.

His push on me seemed similar to Anne's and it's clear that me being here for a few minutes at a time and not being very wordy about what I do and think makes me harder to read, don't really see a point in engaging further with it, would rather move on and focus on people I haven't found yet.

rondo is town and I will die for him if i need to

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:21 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:57 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:34 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:25 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:21 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:16 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:52 am

No, it's BradLand, hi.

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Oh BlueKang! Hi, it's been a while!

Hi! It has I missed playing with you!

Same! Reads so far?

Also goes out to @Michelle

Same here

I think Wisdom was asking for your reads Michelle.

Response is great but it's hilarious at the same time.

This is the post I found pockety, Dolby.

I also realized that ISO's are timed backwards -.-'

ok maybe i can believe it's fake distinacing here specifically

Also she is posting better than the deck mafia game where she was wolf, so yeah

Wisdom kinda made a point to interact with Michelle in the early game, idk I Still don't like Michelle's 2nd vote on me but I might just walk away from it bc she was the obv town of the early game and I kinda think Wisdom exclusively interacting with Michelle early game kinda isn't partnered

michelle's vote on me 2 minutes before eod when the votes on LC were coming down are enough to shake my TR there

if LC is town I'd say maybe with the exception of Scotty that the Wisdom wagon is clear. Yes I know this means calling 112 town but I like them if LC v

seanzie kill whack af

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:21 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:20 pm I mean it's possible mafia were mostly afk for eod or played suboptimally, but yeah, likely difference check between you two

what does difference check mean here

that they're different alignments

or a check that they're different alignmetns but they mean it rhetorically

anyway bc I don't want to be gaslit over a shitpost, I was joking about Rondo switching and even if he did it wouldn't make him mafia tbh. Also I think how he interacted around not having a vote at eod is pretty towny

Predicting Rondo gets on LC and an Wisdom voter got 3 wrong

5-4, tight

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:50 pm Also where the hell are these eggs at lol

I got one

You should share how you found it if you're town. If mafia finds one, all the mafia will know where to look. I have no idea what I'm even looking for, and I'd guess many people are in the same boat, so it would benefit town for everyone to know what the heck to be looking for.

Yeah also agree with that most of us don’t even know what we’re looking for. Also have no idea to

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:50 pm Also where the hell are these eggs at lol

Ikr

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:49 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:43 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:42 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:40 pm [VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

No, back on Wisdom, please.

What are your thoughts on Dolby?

I'm townreading him from what he was posting from a few hours ago.
Plus this is pretty much a death wish if he's mafia deciding to taunt everyone into wagoning him.

That really isn't a good representation of what was going on. He wasn't a wagon when he was "taunting" people. Right as soon as he got a wagon, it was a whole lot less "coward", a lot more "there is a wolf on me!"

I explicitly started saying there’s a wolf on me when Scotty got on

I predicted that a wolf would get on me before then

I probably shouldn’t pre flip though