The Syndicate

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:26 am how is creature the confirmed mafia lol

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:49 pm You don't need to keep giving cover lol

I get why Esooa would red check me, I get why Kami would red check Creature, and I even get why Syn would check Ejji. Why did you check Kza?

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:32 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:47 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:33 pm It looks like if there is a Falcon peek then it's Hyena.

I peeked someone other than Falcon. I wasn't really worried about Falcon sheeping me if that's why you thought I'd peek them. He's did that as town to me in a previous game we played.

Kami wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:22 pm creature w
[VOTE: creature] aubergine

Noted.

I thought Falcon's peek was you, I meant...
Kami peek means nothing btw. She likes claiming wolf peeks.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:06 pm also I'm kind of assuming your check is fake since the pro gamer move would have been to wait a bit for spew

orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:18 am

ejjinami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:16 am

orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:13 am

ejjinami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:12 am

orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:00 am who got the pregame check? And what is lunchbox talking about a wolf check for?

esooa. She’s a claimed cop
You’re voting a confirmed townie

kami is town as well due to their check so you are scum-reading only town. If you don’t want to get checked, choose one among: [fingersplints, nanook] to check at night and 1 among [syn, falcon] to lynch today

i never scum read kami that is false

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orangecrush wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:03 am Kami actually looks pretty bad lol but would they be this confrontational as wolf

you sure did

That's not a scum read lol, saying someone looks bad but then giving a reason why there is a good chance they aren't a wolf isn't a scum read

You can think someone looks bad without scum reading them

Have you never town read someone because they look too scummy to be scum, its similar to that

So yes saying I scum read Kami is false. If I scum read someone i'll tell you and you'll know.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:26 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:19 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:17 pm My question to you is not "have you ever SOD peeked as villa before". My question to you is "if you are villa why would you SOD peek after you were given a logical explanation as to why SOD peeking is bad". "Because I wanted to and IDGAF about optimal play" is a cop out excuse and not a real answer and it's the only one you have given so far.

But even setting the nanook v thing aside, I have way more reasons to scumread you than just that:

1) The fact that you made a misreppy first post and dipped.
2) The fact that you naked sheeped other people saying Lunchbox/Alison wolves together and tried to signal boost that narrative without giving any indication why you actually believe that.
3) The fact that you're trying to pass off your scumread on me as because I explained my scumread on you, when that is a perfectly logical thing to do as villa. It is nonsensical to believe that explaining your reads is scummy and a desire to cover up your OMGUS is a much more plausible explanation for you trying to push that line of reasoning.

Omg you got me! My peek I do every game as villager is why I'm a wolf!

I have given you three scumreads aside from the peek. You have not responded to any of them.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:25 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:20 pm NGL I'm fucking dying over the fact you said you'd get me lynched and your top wagon

Posts like this are 100% mafia gloating that they've managed to fool town by the way.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:17 pm My question to you is not "have you ever SOD peeked as villa before". My question to you is "if you are villa why would you SOD peek after you were given a logical explanation as to why SOD peeking is bad". "Because I wanted to and IDGAF about optimal play" is a cop out excuse and not a real answer and it's the only one you have given so far.

But even setting the nanook v thing aside, I have way more reasons to scumread you than just that:

1) The fact that you made a misreppy first post and dipped.
2) The fact that you naked sheeped other people saying Lunchbox/Alison wolves together and tried to signal boost that narrative without giving any indication why you actually believe that.
3) The fact that you're trying to pass off your scumread on me as because I explained my scumread on you, when that is a perfectly logical thing to do as villa. It is nonsensical to believe that explaining your reads is scummy and a desire to cover up your OMGUS is a much more plausible explanation for you trying to push that line of reasoning.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:11 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:08 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:06 pm I don't think the timing of Kami's peek is all that important and I think she's capable of doing it early in any role.

Why are you purposefully being neutral about my alignment in every post

Because I'm giving you credit for being skilled at this game and not outing your role through simple mechanical actions like the timing of when you drop peeks?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:10 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:09 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:07 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:05 pm Alison your point is unbelievably invalid. You began caring about Kamis check because you said it was cover for a tmi read. It was always a check. Now you're saying she's playing unoptimally so it's apparently wolfy. Just drop it

It makes 0 sense for it to be a check because people have already said not to give checks SOD

It makes way more sense for it to be a read that they tried to backtrack on.

Man you are legit drowning and struggling hard keep it up

I like how you're resorting to posts like this rather than explaining why you felt it was a good idea to give a check at SOD after it was explained to you three times why doing so is a bad idea.

Or explain why you think Lunchbox/me are partnered instead of just naked sheeping it after other people made that read.

You only started attacking me once I pointed out how shitty your first post and dip was, your entire case on me is naked OMGUS and the fact that you're trying to pretend it's not is incredibly fucking outing.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:07 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:05 pm Alison your point is unbelievably invalid. You began caring about Kamis check because you said it was cover for a tmi read. It was always a check. Now you're saying she's playing unoptimally so it's apparently wolfy. Just drop it

It makes 0 sense for it to be a check because people have already said not to give checks SOD

It makes way more sense for it to be a read that they tried to backtrack on.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:06 pm I don't think the timing of Kami's peek is all that important and I think she's capable of doing it early in any role.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:03 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:03 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:02 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:02 pm this "multiple people" is just you

And Creature

And Esooa

they gave tips on how to do cop cover optimally

which involves not saying it at SOD

so my question is why did Kami give their "nanook v" hypo at SOD?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:54 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:53 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:52 pm While we're at it let's point out that multiple people said that hypoing pregame was anti-town and Kami immediately claimed that their read on nanook was a pregame hypo when it was called into question.

I'm seer though, why are you implying you know I'm not or am?

I think you're mafia so obviously I'm not going to treat you as seer, wtf

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:52 pm While we're at it let's point out that multiple people said that hypoing pregame was anti-town and Kami immediately claimed that their read on nanook was a pregame hypo when it was called into question.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:52 pm Kami, do you have any sort of opinion on Syn at the moment?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:48 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:46 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:26 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:15 pm I don't know why Kami would open tunneling Luckbox unless they're w/w. I'd expect her to try to give more thread-wide reads

Do wolves never tunnel town?

rly

I mean it's a serious question.

Why should I clear someone for tunnelling another player, especially if that player is town

well it's kinda a ridiculous one cause I never cleared her I said it was town indicative. Which is the same reason it's towny. Because town will be more likely to do it

No.

It's not.

Wolves want to get town killed.

Wolves tunnel town all the time because it gives them an excuse not to talk about other players and to handwave away having to give serious thoughts on the rest of the gamestate. You know this because we have discussed this exact thing in PMs and ways to hold wolves accountable when they try to tunnel which means you are aware that it is a common strategy for wolves to use.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:50 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:48 pm Sorry im too obvious villager youre gonna have to push for a misslynch somewhere else
[VOTE: Alison[/vote[] aubergine

[VOTE:
You are not obvious villager at all and I fully intend to get you killed by the end of today.] aubergine

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:36 pm honestly Alisons push is worse than kamis imo

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:26 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:23 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:22 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:15 pm I don't know why Kami would open tunneling Luckbox unless they're w/w. I'd expect her to try to give more thread-wide reads

I have no idea honestly but don't see how she's still not in her wolf range, fwiw.

still don't think she would do that as mafia so it's still town indicative tho

Well I can definitely see her believing what she's saying about me and understand from her perspective why she would think it's weird for me to be most confident on you out of the people I know. It also doesn't make why that would be something I'd lie about-- but I understand it enough, I guess.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:10 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:37 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:35 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:17 pm luckbox/allison are partners lmao

naked sheep of other people's scumread with no conviction

pretty sure kami's a wolf here

Nope I find your vote completely fine on me, but why did you feel the need to explain it 2 pages later in such a awkward way. Especially on day 1?
it pinged me

Because I want you to die, and in order to do that I need people to vote you, and in order to do that I need to explain why you should be voted.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:03 pm The one post Kami made before dipping was fixating on something perfectly ordinary and misrepping it. That is why I am voting them.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:34 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:16 pmnannook v

weird read. why?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:35 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:17 pm luckbox/allison are partners lmao

naked sheep of other people's scumread with no conviction

pretty sure kami's a wolf here

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:26 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:21 pm Naw that's not true in the past year its been 7 but I've been on pog since 2015 so it's been far more than that
Also why would you think you know the meta of someone off 2 games, that's just illogical especially since esooa was drunk and out of character

I only remember you over this last year or so and wasn't playing too too much again until last year. But that's all besides the point. I would think that I have a better read on esooa than some people that I've played dozens of games with going back a lot longer. And I mean that in no way as a denigration of her play-- I think she villages great which is exactly why I feel I should be able to read her. I'm not sure why this is a thing that you're focusing on either.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:19 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:16 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:15 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:08 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:51 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:47 pm
Why would you be able to read esooa the best out of all of us lmao

well you know I can't read you. Creature I've only played a couple games with and I don't have a baseline for him, and I've just seen esooa's village and wolf game and feel like I've got a good baseline there.
Also Deli is a bit tough to read as they're a master of tone.

You've played like 20 games with me and 2 with esooa you're lying if you think you can meta read them what so ever js

Well I'm definitely not lying. I also don't think that you're unreadable by any stretch-- just that your style is a lot more inscrutable for me.

Naw you are definitely lying and the confidence is extremely fake too

I mean I've already interacted with esooa a ton in our two games, and talked ww with her on discord. And I don't think I have close to 20 games with you either. Maybe like 6 or 7.
But jf you think I'm definitely lying then you know what to do.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:15 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:08 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:51 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:47 pm
Why would you be able to read esooa the best out of all of us lmao

well you know I can't read you. Creature I've only played a couple games with and I don't have a baseline for him, and I've just seen esooa's village and wolf game and feel like I've got a good baseline there.
Also Deli is a bit tough to read as they're a master of tone.

You've played like 20 games with me and 2 with esooa you're lying if you think you can meta read them what so ever js

Well I'm definitely not lying. I also don't think that you're unreadable by any stretch-- just that your style is a lot more inscrutable for me.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:51 pm

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:47 pm
Why would you be able to read esooa the best out of all of us lmao

well you know I can't read you. Creature I've only played a couple games with and I don't have a baseline for him, and I've just seen esooa's village and wolf game and feel like I've got a good baseline there.
Also Deli is a bit tough to read as they're a master of tone.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:03 pm The one post Kami made before dipping was fixating on something perfectly ordinary and misrepping it. That is why I am voting them.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:03 pm I'm the seer with a wolf peek but I'll wait until they start acting wolfy before I say anything.

I've played with Esooa, Deli, Kami, and Creature before and expect to be able to read them in roughly that order. I also have notes on some of the others here as either good, decent, or decent and slanky.

I've played a ton of this game in my life and generally have a unconventional style that's built around tone reads. So for the wolves here, please try to do your best to sound natural to make this a good game.

Also-- this 48/24 format is nuts and I'm used to 12/12, so I have no idea what sort of posting volume is typical in these, but I assume I'll be towards the top in post-count. Goal today is to interact with everyone and try to get a feel for everyone.

I might also randomly call people and posts wolfy and I might not always mean what I say as sometimes I do things for reactions and mild trolling.
How do we make votes here?