The Syndicate

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:04 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:59 pm Just so everyone is aware, poll runs until X:22, so there is still 20 minutes of day left.
You were on FS and now you are on Wigly

Has her content today done anything for you?

Or are you changing to Wigly for other reasons?
I'm pretty sure her last post was before I voted for her, so no her content did not change my mind. I also was only on her for like 15 minutes. I was on Wilgy and Marmot and Ender too. Hell, I even voted Jay at some point.

I have been looking for the wagon I feel the best on.

Seanzie flitting votes like Rondo over here. =P

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:05 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:04 pm My gut rn is Lucy/Jay/Wilgy now I've thought about it.

But also that seems too easy so probably wrong.

And Wilgy is mostly in there because I have this random thought of "It makes my D1 feelings make sense."
Fwiw, if Wilgy is a wolf, I don't think both of his teammates would avoid talking about and/or lightly shield him.

This is a fair point.

But I wanted to live in fantasy land a little longer : <

AT most one wolf in Dizzy/Boq/Rondo tbh.

But I think there's none.

My gut rn is Lucy/Jay/Wilgy now I've thought about it.

But also that seems too easy so probably wrong.

And Wilgy is mostly in there because I have this random thought of "It makes my D1 feelings make sense."

I'm probably townreading a wolf somewhere but I can find them after I hunt down the other wolves.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:01 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:57 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:56 pm Ok, I'm doing this: Ender town.

@JaggedJimmyJay You should start to realise your healthy game state is not what you think it is at some point.
Okay, what changed your mind?
I haven't actually ever wolf read you. I've been unsure. But right when I said this, I read your post to me like "Either way, me town reading you is a win for you. Either I'm correct or you get to laugh about it in secret." It was very "Why do you care" in a way that took it for granted that I shouldn't care about your alignment. Yeah, that is way convoluted and not strong, but it's something that's been brewing, and I just feel you're town. I already said as much. Like, you play kind of wolfy, but you're probably town, is the feeling I'm getting.

Also, I'm town reading literally everyone, so don't feel special.

Too late, feeling special.

Alright, if Wilgy flips red btw I want to go after Jay next.

There are multiple reads where he does a POE and has Wilgy there as an afterthought.

Or susses and with a "Maybe Wilgy".

This allows him to say he was sussing Wilgy if he goes over but means he doesn't have to push them unless someone cases Wilgy haaaaaard

Oh... I was expecting it to be over like now.

Lmao.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:56 pm Ok, I'm doing this: Ender town.

@JaggedJimmyJay You should start to realise your healthy game state is not what you think it is at some point.

Okay, what changed your mind?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:54 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:51 pm Tbh probably Jay.

I feel like I townread most of his POE and idk if that's me being bad or him being wolf but either way.
who don't you town read in my POE

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:46 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:40 pm What do you make of the game state right now? Do you have a decent grasp on who you think the wolves could be?
Turbulent. The vibe is good, but the solving is turbulent. I still feel mostly okay about this POE group, perhaps with Wilgy added:

Creature
Dyslexicon
EnderWiggin
fingersplints
RondoDimBuckle

While acknowledging town accounts exist for these slots. Much of my own turbulence is that many suspects I have called out have been vouched for by someone, often by a town read. That can be healthy enough, but it's challenging. Maybe this is how mountainous feels.

I have Dizzy as town
Rondo as light town
Fingersplints as probably villager
And Creature as townish but also low effort so could be wolf.

So Creature is closest to not a townread.

Wilgy I don't townread.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:48 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:46 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:44 pm Ender, what's your view of Wilgy
Leery.

Tbh I forgot about Wilgy for a bunch of this game so I don't have a solid opinion.

I would've appreciated a response like this when I asked you about Wilgy earlier.
I don't remember why I didn't answer properly but I was probably feeling shit from work and didn't want to think about my thoughts.
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I'm sorry you felt like shit from work though.

Oh, I didn't think you were asking my opinion on Wilgy but more on him voting me.

If that makes sense.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:50 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:47 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:44 pm Ender, what's your view of Wilgy
Leery.

Tbh I forgot about Wilgy for a bunch of this game so I don't have a solid opinion.
Is Marmot still your preferred elimination?
Marmot is in the mix.

Of the ones that have votes probably yes?
What about out of everyone?

Tbh probably Jay.

I feel like I townread most of his POE and idk if that's me being bad or him being wolf but either way.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:52 pm Rondo is playing seriously
Will be interesting to see if Ender's read evolves tbh

I think Rondo is probably town right now.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:48 pm I have a nasty feeling about this EOD

When do you not.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:47 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:44 pm Ender, what's your view of Wilgy
Leery.

Tbh I forgot about Wilgy for a bunch of this game so I don't have a solid opinion.
Is Marmot still your preferred elimination?

Marmot is in the mix.

Of the ones that have votes probably yes?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:46 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:44 pm Ender, what's your view of Wilgy
Leery.

Tbh I forgot about Wilgy for a bunch of this game so I don't have a solid opinion.

I would've appreciated a response like this when I asked you about Wilgy earlier.

I don't remember why I didn't answer properly but I was probably feeling shit from work and didn't want to think about my thoughts.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:44 pm Ender, what's your view of Wilgy

Leery.

Tbh I forgot about Wilgy for a bunch of this game so I don't have a solid opinion.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:41 pm Look at me almost outposting Ender. What's your excuse, Ender? HMMM???

I want to see you succeed <3

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:40 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:39 pm I'm still amazed that some people aren't aware of this
I have an alt called Gavial btw

I knew it.

I'm still amazed that some people aren't aware of this

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:21 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:19 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:17 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:06 pm Best argument for Ender being town, go
He seems very different from our qualifier, where he was a wolf. By different I mean he seemed perfectly able to project towniness and do towny solving, and he's doing neither of those things here, which is a quandary because it's both "less towny" and "less like the wolf meta I'm familiar with" which are at odds.

VCA wise he rejoined the Falcon wagon as the 7th vote an hour or so before EOD, which I'm not sure why he'd do if he knew it was going to be a town flip.
wait is Ender Blade?
The very same.

Amazing.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:20 pm Huh wait

EnderWiggin = bladescape?

LMAO.

Go check the bladescape profile on MU. It has EnderWiggin under other names.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:17 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:06 pm Best argument for Ender being town, go
He seems very different from our qualifier, where he was a wolf. By different I mean he seemed perfectly able to project towniness and do towny solving, and he's doing neither of those things here, which is a quandary because it's both "less towny" and "less like the wolf meta I'm familiar with" which are at odds.

VCA wise he rejoined the Falcon wagon as the 7th vote an hour or so before EOD, which I'm not sure why he'd do if he knew it was going to be a town flip.
wait is Ender Blade?

Always have been.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:15 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:39 am I changed my mind.

I want this back.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
What moved you? I think Marmot's posts lately have been fine.

The way thread was stagnating around FS wagon made me want to stir the pot. I legit was a little iffy on Marmot because when heat died down on them their rise in activity quietened, and so I wanted to see what happened if I brought back a Marmot wagon and if that would re-invigorate game state.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:06 pm Best argument for Ender being town, go

I am notably able to not derp as wolf.

I have pride in my wolf game.

I also don't have a btsc.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:31 pm Ender is Lag, Illwei is me

I fucking wish.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:03 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:33 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:34 am Rondo's posts are chaos.

I struggle to find concordant processes or threads of thinking to interpret; everything is kaleidoscopic and inscrutable. @RondoDimBuckle you're the only one that can help me to change that, unless anyone else here knows you well and is willing to talk about it (Hi, EnderWiggin). As it stands, I don't think I town read this slot. While the immense activity is great, it's also chaos.
There's not a huge amount to talk about with Rondo. He has a lot of content you can probably read past and will do things just to poke buttons without believing in it a whit.

I've only ever seen him wolf irl so I don't know how much of it works in forum mafia, but in irl he likes to make it difficult to link him and his partners together, especially when it comes to drawing attention to himself. He's saved partners purely by making himself more suspicious.
I get the impression that you know Rondo well and in the past you have taken the lead on attempts to read Rondo because of this. Does it bother you at all that you've been essentially null reading him for most of the game?

Not really?

I have a feeling I might be able to read him better if I don't pressure him early tbh, because the more aware he is of me the more likely he'll put effort into hiding what I could read as scum.

This is a decision I've come to after a few games.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:56 pm True @NateTheLesser. The path from A to B is blank. That doesn't have to mean there is no path, but it's not visible.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:17 pm Fingers is a fine wagon.

I might need to revisit it because two of my townreads independantly came to a scumread there.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:48 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:47 am Someone argue for Splints being civ for me plz.
Fingersplints is an obvious civilian, honestly.

Me: Fingers is probably a fine wagon, need to revisit it tho.

Me later: Well I revisited it and I think it's probably town.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:28 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:27 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:25 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm [VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine
Oh so my wagon starts with a naked vote lmao.

Keep reading

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm [VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine
Day 2 content strikes me as low in nuance and kinda going through the motions. Not thrilled with his votes today.

ISO link
Oh man, my wagon starts with a naked vote and then a nothingburger post that tries to make other people come up with specific reasons for scum reading me, lmao.

It's more than you've given for your votes.

Fair.

Still gonna lmao at it tho.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:26 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:25 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:23 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:22 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:19 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:16 pm Boq/Dizzy are my little towncore I'm kinda sure of in their own way, and Rondo can be tinfoil addition.
Not me craving to be town read, but still being unsatisfied by yours.
Can you please just explain what was so magical about my reaction to the votes or whatever it was? Because I can't imagine I was that magical. Whatever tell you think you have, I'm almost certain it doesn't work.
The meta thing was the start.

I also like your reading into thread and not just eating wholesale what was being served.

But no, if it's wrong I'm sure I'll find out when you use it to win against me as wolf one day.
tmipigeon.gif
Ah, yes, because town cannot be confident.
I was poking fun at the idea that you perhaps insinuated that Dizzy is not a wolf in this particular game, even though he might be in a future game.

Oh lmao. I got too serious there for a mo

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:25 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm [VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine
Oh so my wagon starts with a naked vote lmao.

Keep reading

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm [VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine
Day 2 content strikes me as low in nuance and kinda going through the motions. Not thrilled with his votes today.

ISO link

Oh man, my wagon starts with a naked vote and then a nothingburger post that tries to make other people come up with specific reasons for scum reading me, lmao.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:43 pm @EnderWiggin Your vote/sus on Fingers coupled with your vote on me later, when we both didn't participate in thread, kind of sucks majorly tbh. True or not?

Neither were "I think you're wolf."

Both were prods.

You can decide if they suck or not, but if you think that it sucked then I disagree with you.

Smile.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:23 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:22 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:19 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:16 pm Boq/Dizzy are my little towncore I'm kinda sure of in their own way, and Rondo can be tinfoil addition.
Not me craving to be town read, but still being unsatisfied by yours.
Can you please just explain what was so magical about my reaction to the votes or whatever it was? Because I can't imagine I was that magical. Whatever tell you think you have, I'm almost certain it doesn't work.
The meta thing was the start.

I also like your reading into thread and not just eating wholesale what was being served.

But no, if it's wrong I'm sure I'll find out when you use it to win against me as wolf one day.
tmipigeon.gif

Ah, yes, because town cannot be confident.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm [VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

Oh so my wagon starts with a naked vote lmao.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:19 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:16 pm Boq/Dizzy are my little towncore I'm kinda sure of in their own way, and Rondo can be tinfoil addition.
Not me craving to be town read, but still being unsatisfied by yours.
Can you please just explain what was so magical about my reaction to the votes or whatever it was? Because I can't imagine I was that magical. Whatever tell you think you have, I'm almost certain it doesn't work.

The meta thing was the start.

I also like your reading into thread and not just eating wholesale what was being served.

But no, if it's wrong I'm sure I'll find out when you use it to win against me as wolf one day.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:22 pm Right now, the only ones who fall "below the line" for me are Alison, Wilgy and Creature. Nate is complete null. Ender and Fingers may be a bit of a "meh sure". Sean is fine. The others are town. Actually, I forgot Marmot, which I did read town, but I'm going to reevaluate as I read further.

Going out for some candy, AND THIS IS NOT A COFFEE TELL

I have Coffee.

This is a coffee tell.

Boq/Dizzy are my little towncore I'm kinda sure of in their own way, and Rondo can be tinfoil addition.

You guys talked a lot more last night than you have for a while, nice

Also I literally showed up around this time yesterday after sleeping and that was middle of the day not EOD, so shush y'all.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:12 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:10 pm Lmao I wake up to a wagon, nice.
W-W-W-Wolfy poppin! (read in an arcade game announcer's voice)

Man, it's almost like EOD is usually an hour or two after I wake up and I slept at a normal time.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:43 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:38 am
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:16 am [VOTE: NateTheLesser] aubergine

Honestly don't feel like you care about the current gamestate, why's that?
I said this in more words in response to Alison, but people keep agreeing with my pushes, and it leaves me oddly directionless.

You're disquieted because you think there's a wolf in Alison/Lucy/Jay? Why those 3?
Because the sensation was "Wolves comfortable" which suggests a wolf in towncore and those 3 + Mac + Boq were that towncore. Mac is dead and I might be premature but I've loved Boq's content.

Hence those three.
Oooh why do you love it?

I am a simple man, I see Boq post, I usually kinda nod.

Lmao I wake up to a wagon, nice.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:47 am Someone argue for Splints being civ for me plz.

Fingersplints is an obvious civilian, honestly.

I forgot to vote in the poll for a bit there. Geeze I'm tired.

I changed my mind.

I want this back.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:12 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:08 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:07 am i assume you’ll withhold reasoning for voting like all your other reads? @EnderWiggin
What could ever make you think that? :O
simple pattern recognition

Shit! town is learning! Need to change the algorithm!

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:07 am i assume you’ll withhold reasoning for voting like all your other reads? @EnderWiggin

What could ever make you think that? :O

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

Podracing.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:40 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:37 am @RondoDimBuckle, @EnderWiggin -- I get the impression you know each other quite well. Have you been on a mafia team together before?
We know each other irl, we've played werewolf irl together and other social deduction games, and we have been a team together irl.

I recruited him into online play.

To add to that:
Some part of his irl play comes into online, however with irl play the voting isn't exactly like forum and that does bring changes.

Also I haven't yet seen him wolf irl so idk if the tricks I use to read him actually translate.

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