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Why Esooa? I didn't see you post anything about them other than the vote.

Hey, still not done poking you. I can multipoke.

Gib me reads.

Lemme do a quick browse and find someone else to poke.

Okay I seriously don't need to tunnel on D1

Reads on other players are trackable data that isn't interpreting tone or interaction. Interaction + Reads data is best combined to properly illuminate scum rather than just reading wishy-washy content.

If you'd been asking questions or doing something ELSE that helps I'd handwave the lack of reads. But you've been doing approximately shit all.

Really doesn't feel like it with how you've been asking me questions about basic processes but you do you hun.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:13 pm I kinda like Esooa so far. Might be trying to ride in my pocket but I just like their content so far.
How is she trying to ride in your pocket? Seems like this is more of a pocket attempt on Esooa

Esooa has followed my Creature pressure. Other than that we haven't really linked in interaction.

Pocket via mirroring was what I was joking she was doing, but I don't really believe it.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:18 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:17 pm But without reads you don't interact
We've been doing what then?

Okay, am I gonna have to explain the simplest of processes for generating links between players?

I didn't sign up to teach Mafia.

Wolves getting paper thin townreads is almost par for the course. Sometimes they get even stronger townreads.

But without reads you don't interact and that doesn't help town read you

I kinda like Esooa so far. Might be trying to ride in my pocket but I just like their content so far.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:08 pm Okay, I think my recent presence only made me feel worse. I'll see what I can do, but I don't want to give any wolf a free townread just because someone told me to make any garbage read.

As I said, it can be weak. You can say "these are paper thin" before making them.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:52 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:50 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:48 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:46 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:44 pm Also can I just say I don't like the vote system here. I understand it makes it easy to get vote totals at end of day for narrator but god damn does it make sneaky vote swaps easy to play with.
I've not had a problem with it
You 2 should see the CDC voting system...completely based on the host reading the thread and manually counting votes, no poll structure whatsoever.
Good sir, that's the kind of voting system I come from.
Oh shit, well I enjoy the auto feature and easy read system here. I guess part of the manual system is dependent on very regular vote counts, and those don't happen on my home site

Regular user made vote counts with a trust that people like to keep is how I've operated.

Creature is 20 posts into this thread and has provided as much content as a youtuber with half a video in sketches that's been "updating" for 10 years.

There's like five people really active. A really bald approach by town.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:48 pm
OMGUS vote me?
Oh snap time to perform reverse Falcon.
I hard claim Toe Nail Clippings!

I counterclaim toe nail clippings.

Or was it fingernail...

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:48 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:46 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:44 pm Also can I just say I don't like the vote system here. I understand it makes it easy to get vote totals at end of day for narrator but god damn does it make sneaky vote swaps easy to play with.
I've not had a problem with it
You 2 should see the CDC voting system...completely based on the host reading the thread and manually counting votes, no poll structure whatsoever.

Good sir, that's the kind of voting system I come from.

I want to correct myself. I've been using "45" when I meant "86".

I can't believe I fucked up my own Get Smart reference.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:45 pm If you want me to post reads I'll provide them soon. But I need to have them first.

As said. I don't care if they're as weak as a nerd on first gym day. I want meat to tear my teeth into.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:44 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:41 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:39 pm Is this gonna be a loss?
Towny mindset right here
Gonna have to explain this one to me 45.
I was being sarcastic

Acceptable, be on your way 45.

Also can I just say I don't like the vote system here. I understand it makes it easy to get vote totals at end of day for narrator but god damn does it make sneaky vote swaps easy to play with.

Btw if you don't provide anything for me to read off anyway even with being pressured, I'm happy for you to be lynched because at that point you're a negative to town even if you're town.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:42 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:41 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:40 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:29 pm Hey look at me, getting involved in conversations that started before I woke up.

If I can do it, you can.

Give me a read. I don't care if it's as weak as a nerd on first gym day.
I think this post expresses genuine annoyance at Creature's behavior, which is townie.
Not to ruin people townreading me, but I genuinely wasn't annoyed there. Just poking their response back at them.
Ok then, I rescind my townread.

Good. I'm proud of you for being open to new information.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:42 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:40 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:38 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:35 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Honestly dunno if he's actually wolf, but also honestly do something other than provide useless content.
Like voting someone I'm not even wolfreading?
Do you guys not use votes to pressure when you have no wolfreads?
But you just said you don't even wolfread me, so what kind of pressure is even this?

The pressure so you provide some thing I can read off.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:41 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:39 pm Is this gonna be a loss?
Towny mindset right here

Gonna have to explain this one to me 45.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:40 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:56 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:21 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:24 pm Falcon and Gavial are town.

Wurzel outed. Not liking the energy I'm seeing from Wiml or HK.
Explain.
he's not uptight at all and is relatively free flowing and poking around at various players. He doesn't have the aggressive edge to his posting that I see from him most of the time, but I don't think that's alignment indicative - he had it as wolf. I think that probing attitude is townie for falcon, and you are just tunnelled on him for bad reasons.
It's somewhat imasculating having my meta dismantled so easily, but yeah you're not wrong.

Emasculating? =P

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:40 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:29 pm Hey look at me, getting involved in conversations that started before I woke up.

If I can do it, you can.

Give me a read. I don't care if it's as weak as a nerd on first gym day.
I think this post expresses genuine annoyance at Creature's behavior, which is townie.

Not to ruin people townreading me, but I genuinely wasn't annoyed there. Just poking their response back at them.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:38 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:35 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Honestly dunno if he's actually wolf, but also honestly do something other than provide useless content.
Like voting someone I'm not even wolfreading?

Do you guys not use votes to pressure when you have no wolfreads?

And I was told this place was supposed to be good.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Honestly dunno if he's actually wolf, but also honestly do something other than provide useless content.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:29 pm I have no opinion on Creature/LC. When I said I'm looking at them I mean they're question marks to me and I want to find out their alignment, not that I suspect them. I may well come away with a townread on them after I finish my examination.

Can't joke at Alison, got it. =P

Hey look at me, getting involved in conversations that started before I woke up.

If I can do it, you can.

Give me a read. I don't care if it's as weak as a nerd on first gym day.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:26 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:23 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:22 pm I tire of trying to convince HK he is scum. If anyone else has questions about my HK read I'm all ears. Otherwise I'm going to look at Creature and LC.

Esooa what do you think of Wurzel
Either you think similarly to me or you're jumping on my established IT reads.

I'm not sure how comfortable I am with either option.
no read was expressed in the quoted post other than "HK is scum"

I was mostly joking.

But I was jumping off the "Esooa tell us about Wurzel" comment and the fact I've fingered Creature/LC as I don't like yet.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:22 pm I tire of trying to convince HK he is scum. If anyone else has questions about my HK read I'm all ears. Otherwise I'm going to look at Creature and LC.

Esooa what do you think of Wurzel

Either you think similarly to me or you're jumping on my established IT reads.

I'm not sure how comfortable I am with either option.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:20 pm Wurzel is pretty easy to read IMO. The last game I played with him he was lock town to me and multiple others who actually knew how to read him day 1. He actually was mislynched that day though, cause he posts weird. Lmao.

But the first game I played with him he was scum and his play was obvious enough I would have tunneled him from day 1 if I was town

So gimme a read. Throw that confidence into the street. Let me see your choice.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:20 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:19 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:17 pm what do you think about LC's hopping onto my push on you HK?
I also don't like Long Con.
I don't know how to read Long Con tbh. I used to think I had an idea but then I thought about it and realized I don't.

Last game I arbitrarily decided to just pretend he was confirmed town for no reason and he got killed by the hostile 3P and flipped town.

I also like to arbitrarily townread people for fun.

Btw I just want to let everyone know that this is the weekend for me so expect to see me around a bit while I am awake. Once it gets back to weekdays I expect to have a much smaller frame of activity. Just so y'all don't kill me for suddenly being quieter in Day 2

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:17 pm what do you think about LC's hopping onto my push on you HK?

I also don't like Long Con.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:12 pm Hey Creature, give me a read on one of the players who have posted more than twice today. I don't care which one.
I'm very confident that Creature is town because everything he has been posting so far reeks town without TMI at all, like here and here.

This. I don't like. Quack.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:15 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:12 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:08 pm Other than my supposed fake incredulity why am I a wolf here, and why specifically with wurzel?
Your townread on Esooa seemed designed to bait out a specific reaction from her more than a genuine expression of your thoughts about her alignment. Which can come from town as a reaction test, but in the moment it felt to me more like a weird attempt at pocketing her or striking up a conversation/rapport with her when she asks why. It's why I mentioned I didn't like the energy coming from you, because it was a nebulous "this feels icky" sense.

Your discredit of my Wurzel read which I felt was pretty well founded made me suspect you could be buddies with Wurzel. The push on Gavial you are currently making makes no sense to me and is caught for the wrong reasons-y. You are also trying to get out of it by being as loud and angry as possible which is a scumtell.
I'd like to say that I've seen Scum discredit fine lynches on townies for no reason other than to go "I WAS RIGHT" as a townread later when/if they flip town.

It also tends to make the towny inclined to be on the side of the person defending them. Honestly, may be personal forum bias, but I usually expect early defenses on little aggression to be less likely to be buddies than more as maf don't want to buddy too early.
I am incredibly arrogant and assume that the scum team is sent into a blind panic every time I catch one of their members early.

As an arrogant player I respect this.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:12 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:08 pm Other than my supposed fake incredulity why am I a wolf here, and why specifically with wurzel?
Your townread on Esooa seemed designed to bait out a specific reaction from her more than a genuine expression of your thoughts about her alignment. Which can come from town as a reaction test, but in the moment it felt to me more like a weird attempt at pocketing her or striking up a conversation/rapport with her when she asks why. It's why I mentioned I didn't like the energy coming from you, because it was a nebulous "this feels icky" sense.

Your discredit of my Wurzel read which I felt was pretty well founded made me suspect you could be buddies with Wurzel. The push on Gavial you are currently making makes no sense to me and is caught for the wrong reasons-y. You are also trying to get out of it by being as loud and angry as possible which is a scumtell.

I'd like to say that I've seen Scum discredit fine lynches on townies for no reason other than to go "I WAS RIGHT" as a townread later when/if they flip town.

It also tends to make the towny inclined to be on the side of the person defending them. Honestly, may be personal forum bias, but I usually expect early defenses on little aggression to be less likely to be buddies than more as maf don't want to buddy too early.

Hey Creature, give me a read on one of the players who have posted more than twice today. I don't care which one.

I dunno if I buy Wurzel/HK scumlean

RVS only exists as long as we allow it to exist

I could see a HK scum, but I'm gonna put that on my "1 hour reads" basket and keep going before I settle on it.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:02 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:59 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:35 pm lets be real, the only reason you're on me like this is because I wrecked you in bluey, right? because literally nothing I've done here is alignment indicative for me, and you've not actually said a god damn thing about how you get to a wolf read on me so either stfu and go bark up someone elses tree, or make with real reads and state clearly, for the record, why you wolf read me instead of being a shouty gremlin
your posting has been awkward (eg. "the fuck?" like you're making a token attempt to express incredulity without being incredulous) and this burst of anger seems manufactured
So you think gavial is right then that falcon and I are wolves together? How am I supposed to express incredulity then?
That's also not a burst of anger. I can link you some bursts of anger if you'd like?

Pretty sure Alison has said town on Falc already.

Imagine getting angry over forum mafia.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:56 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:21 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:24 pm Falcon and Gavial are town.

Wurzel outed. Not liking the energy I'm seeing from Wiml or HK.
Explain.
he's not uptight at all and is relatively free flowing and poking around at various players. He doesn't have the aggressive edge to his posting that I see from him most of the time, but I don't think that's alignment indicative - he had it as wolf. I think that probing attitude is townie for falcon, and you are just tunnelled on him for bad reasons.

This sounds right for Day 1 tunneling.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:55 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:53 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:47 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:45 pm Four pages to wake up to, good start.

QUACK.
I know man
So are you new to mafia or just ducking responsibility?
Pretty sure I'm not new to mafia

Weird you're doing the whole "How do we win" thing then?

Is there a meta reason Gav/HK/Falcon are trying to kick each other around already? Or is this just standard forum bickering?

Seems like way too hard on D1 reads unless you have hard meta sus, and even then anything that hard should be fixed by any half decent player.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:47 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:45 pm Four pages to wake up to, good start.

QUACK.
I know man

So are you new to mafia or just ducking responsibility?

Oh shit I got no avatar yet. Brb.

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