The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:40 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:39 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:37 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:32 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:31 pm God I really dont know if ender is a hit I'm a trash can at reading them the couple times we have played but they seemed to be consistent in the dizzy read and felt confident earlier is this also doable in ender's wolf range?
Idk if ender is a hit, but I'm willing to see the results of Achros work and the pattern of movement around it.

I'm still finding Rondo's patterns the most fascinating.
In what way?
I just see a hard sway from your votes being away from the Flanders wagon.

Your options instead of Flanders seems to also be wide.

I'm not sure if you've heard defended Flanders prior and would need to see if that exists, but your vote pattern seems to indicate as such.
lets jump back on him then?
[VOTE: Flanders ] aubergine
give achro his lynch ffs he cares way more about his solve than anyone and has tried to hardest... test him.

This feels kinda weak from you Mac.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:39 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:38 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:37 pm Anyone know Ender's track record of leaving legacy posts as scum? Rondo?
Yes.

I do it as scum too.

Stop looking for others to validate you so you can feel like you didn't fuck up when I flip town.
"Listen to others"
"Stop asking others questions"

You need Jesus tbh

Stop doing this.

I didn't tell you to stop asking questions.

I asked you to stop looking for validation for your goddamn scumread.

I told you to stop asking "Can he do this as scum?" every time I write a word because you already know the answer is yes.

I like that you ask questions a lot. I just feel you also ask a lot of completely wasted questions.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:38 pm also dizzy/nook confbiasing me into the ground by protecting Ender. Especially Nook who didn't want to clear them earlier lol

Nook is either town or knows that as town he would pick out that I'm being miselimmed as town and therefore has to fake that as mafia.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:37 pm Anyone know Ender's track record of leaving legacy posts as scum? Rondo?

Yes.

I do it as scum too.

Stop looking for others to validate you so you can feel like you didn't fuck up when I flip town.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:36 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:34 pm ... Seriously.
Im trying

No, you're sheeping Mac like a mindless drone and pretending that equals relevant thoughts for the game.

I have to get to work this morning so I can't stay around to try and defend myself. Lemme put together a legacy so y'all can get out of your own asses.

... Seriously.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:40 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:39 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:38 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:36 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:34 am Both Nook and Sean being on dizzy makes me think it's not a hit.

Don't understand flaunders Case so I'm waiting on that.

Porscha wagon has been lackluster but whatever I'm sticking to it.

Wilgz wagon is dead and he's no where to be seen

[
Flanders case is partially just lacklustre play, and half because there's a lot of people being townread.
So why flaunders over Wilgz for that reason?
Mac was defending Wilgy because he thought completely ignoring the game was more town him, and most people shrugged and moved on.
Who made Mac ruler of this game

Mac did

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:38 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:36 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:34 am Both Nook and Sean being on dizzy makes me think it's not a hit.

Don't understand flaunders Case so I'm waiting on that.

Porscha wagon has been lackluster but whatever I'm sticking to it.

Wilgz wagon is dead and he's no where to be seen

[
Flanders case is partially just lacklustre play, and half because there's a lot of people being townread.
So why flaunders over Wilgz for that reason?

Mac was defending Wilgy because he thought completely ignoring the game was more town him, and most people shrugged and moved on.

Sabi lies, they are a stalker.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:34 am Both Nook and Sean being on dizzy makes me think it's not a hit.

Don't understand flaunders Case so I'm waiting on that.

Porscha wagon has been lackluster but whatever I'm sticking to it.

Wilgz wagon is dead and he's no where to be seen

[

Flanders case is partially just lacklustre play, and half because there's a lot of people being townread.

I'm not going to lie, Vivax's reaction to my case honestly makes me want to townread him because I don't see the reason for a wolf to hard townread someone trying to case them in a situation when they could just join the wagon on them.

And most of the the posts in the ISO aren't ones I immediately sus, and outside the Tommy progression I don't have a huge reason to sus them anymore.

[VOTE: Stupid Sexy Flanders] aubergine

I'm going to spend the remainder of today trying to find other thoughts that don't exist around names containing "Achro"

It is not impossible that Dizzy is snowing me.

But from what I've seen I think this is likely Dizzy's towngame. I've elaborated some on why I believe that's the case.

For the record:

I need to disengage from this myself.

I'm becoming too annoyed over the argument to clearly define whether I'm voting this because I like the wagon or I'm just annoyed.

I still think that the approach on me (The sussing me starting around when I said that the exaggeration on the Sabi read was obvious from tone. And then the insistence on not liking how I didn't put words in Dizzy's mouth for other things, saying that if I was so good at reading tone I wouldn't have no answer for their reasons for sus) was not great but I need to actually step back and consider other things.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:59 am I have 500 posts. HERE IS YOUR HINT, SIR.

IF I WANT TO SHADE A SLOT

I GO FOR THE FUCKING HEAD.

So you're saying it's impossible that you shaded the activity and then had immediate backlash and changed course on that because you realised it wouldn't be good?

You have been going for Dizzy's head. In any avenue you think is safe.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:58 am Wolves aren't that great at defending themselves and honestly for someone who has never seen my wolf game you make a lot of really bad assumptions about it.

I'll pay that I'm making assumptions about it.

Also wolves defending themselves is absolutely something they can do.

Like if your wolves can't defend themselves find better wolves.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:55 am Well if it makes you feel better it's really irking me that I have to contend with the possibility you are town whose tunneled so deep underground you're covered in oil but here we are.

I am actually not taking you in any light here. I don't know if you're wolf or not but it's just a pretty plain reading. It's not just logically consistent. You say I was shading Dizzy's activity. I am saying if I was shading dizzy's activity you would not have to rely on two sentence post to know it as your only proof.

That's not logical consistency.

That's facts.

Your post shaded Dizzy's activity in a non-favourable manner.

That is a fact.

Whether that makes you wolf is not entirely related to that, but the fact that I have to argue this point when you:

Compared someone who had clearly stated reasons for not being present to someone who hand not been active for an extended period of time

Is just ad;sjf

And this is exactly why I hate engaging people in defense.

Because I then get so caught up in trying to solve them that I lose track of the rest of the game and just vote them.

This is both for me defending myself and other people defending themselves.

And yes, calling it out doesn't mean I'm not prone to falling into it. In fact the direct reason I avoided discussing you in the first place was to try and NOT fall into it but now I'm here anyway.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:48 am It's like "Hmm, nothing suspicious here after a broader context of reading Achro, guess that means he is a wolf since he could follow a line of thought."

Then sure, I am wolf in all worlds no matter what I've posted lol

And this kind of statement is just irking me more.

You're explicitly taking me in a least favourable light and ignoring what I consider to be an issue.

Your ability to follow a line of thought is irrelevant. I place it about as important as whether I can press the f key.

I am trying to consider your content. Whether I believe it looks like you are making your reads progression in a good mind or not. Things I look for primarily are opportunism, lack of flexibility in reads on what I believe are optimal vote outs or targets, what the play you have around other wolves once flipped.

I look at gamestate and thread position.

I don't give two shits about whether you're logically consistent because I actually believe you could be consistent as wolf.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:47 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:45 am Also you're really huge on this whole "But my reasoning makes sense in my frame of mind!" as if this should clear you.

Do you think as wolf you couldn't follow a consistent line of logic? Because I think that's underselling you a little.
It doesn't clear me, it diffuses your point about that post though.

You can't go "well the post makes sense, so it's slimy"

Well you can but it's how you lynch town.

A post being slimy is in no way a reflection of the logical consistency. It is slimy because I don't like or believe in the attempted framing or worldview it's purporting.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:46 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:17 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:19 pm I don't think Seanzie has been townie today and he's fooled me before with play like he had on d1.

I have him as a very slight town lean and welcome discussion on him.
Seeing his last scum game and this one is mega tier yikes of wanting to touch that any time soon tbh. That was super polarizing.

It's not like lock stock and bury it but I don't see a reason to be suspicious outright atm.
That last game was more outlier than anything. Seanzie can be afk wolf but also can post and can provide content.

More recently I've seen more low effort wolf games but I would never count him out of being able to do minimal town!Seanzie posting.
What games have you seen me wolf in? I know we were w/w in veggie wars, but can't remember any others.

I remember Avatar most notably, but there were others too.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:41 am Sure, but you were the only one who reacted to it after I had clarified it. If someone initially goes 'uh Achro' like Sabi did I don't question it. I am questioning it for you because you could have had the benefit of me clarifying it (and, again, importantly the way I clarified it fits in with how I have cased Dizzy and how I have defended Porscha)

Also I maintain that even after you "Clarify" it, it's an inaccurate comparison and shades Dizzy for activity when it wasn't a relevant statement.

The mere fact that you compared Porscha who had low content and had been notably not present to Dizzy who had been present and had explicitly stated their lack of availability for this specific day phase feels bad. You trying to explain it away doesn't change the fact that you considered those two statements parallel enough to compare them.

Also you're really huge on this whole "But my reasoning makes sense in my frame of mind!" as if this should clear you.

Do you think as wolf you couldn't follow a consistent line of logic? Because I think that's underselling you a little.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:41 am Sure, but you were the only one who reacted to it after I had clarified it. If someone initially goes 'uh Achro' like Sabi did I don't question it. I am questioning it for you because you could have had the benefit of me clarifying it (and, again, importantly the way I clarified it fits in with how I have cased Dizzy and how I have defended Porscha)

I still believe it was a comparison that doesn't make sense given the context of their D1s and their "Lack of content".

A context I think you ignored for your post.

A context you rationalised away when called out.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:15 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:09 am I was not shading dizzy for activity and I don't know if ender is mafia who knows that or yet another town who doesn't read the thread carefully and at this point I don't know what to say.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:41 pm Pop quiz

Who has posted more content today dizzy or porscha
Orly

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:18 am I have 500 posts, and you can't find anywhere in my many pages of dizzy discussion where I built my case on Dizzy being inactive. I mean, you read the ISOs I did - that's what I found suspicious.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:49 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:49 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:47 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:41 pm Pop quiz

Who has posted more content today dizzy or porscha
Dizzy said she was afk the whole game say for a festival. Don't be opportunistic

I will he qs opportunistic as I like thank you very much. She may enjoy her festival in peace, most of my problems stem from day one anyway.
But mostly my point is porscha seems to be posting just fine and isn't a great lynch at this point from my pov

The 'pop quiz time with Achro' wasn't actually about Dizzy. It was people pointing out that a huge reason for Porscha being a good lynch is their lack of content, and Dizzy was largely seen as fine, and so I was contrasting the two. One of the beautiful benefits of me typing out so many words and spilling my thoughts is that you can, if you look, see a thread line of my thinking process.

ya rly

I was hardly the only one that took that interpretation out of it.

Your visible line of thinking made it look like the question was basically "If Porscha is a good vote for lack of content, why isn't Dizzy?" When Dizzy had clearly stated afk D2 and had content on D1, which is a different case from Porscha.

It didn't feel like a comparable state between the two

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:31 am One of the reasons I asked Ender last night about how closely he reads games when reading back is he really pounced on pop quiz time with Achro but didn't bring up my two follow ups. The important thing about those follow ups is the rest of my ISO supports them as true. In the first I said most of my problems with Dizzy stem from day one (this is obviously true if you have read most of my ISO and the things I have posted about) and the second is that post was in defense of Porscha and their contributions which also lines up.

The downfall here is Dizzy is just... a day one case that she hasn't had the chance to sit down and answer with me. It's like Porscha, I want answer and when I got answers I went 'oh I like these' and maybe it will be the same for Dizzy. My iso will show I wanted people to engage with my problems with Dizzy and to Ender's credit I feel like he did that the most out of anyone. I am told this isn't out of his scum range though.

There is a joke that nothing is out of my scumrange.

Nanook and others who know me very well tend to be very cautious giving me a clear because of that.

I won't say it's perfect, and there's probably things you can isolate from my ranges, but I have yet to have someone reliably tell me apart when I put in effort. Maybe Sabi, I haven't played with them enough or thought about their read on me before so shrug.

I'd be curious to see if Sabi is right if I role scum with them, but I'll take the shield lol.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:09 am I was not shading dizzy for activity and I don't know if ender is mafia who knows that or yet another town who doesn't read the thread carefully and at this point I don't know what to say.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:41 pm Pop quiz

Who has posted more content today dizzy or porscha

Orly

Coming back to see Vivax say my case on them is towny is not in the top ten things I expected.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:22 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:28 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:51 pm it's within his range, i mildly tr his tone but almost always refuse to tr him early to midgame without pelts
Well, 1. I had Tommy in my D1 POE, 2. Help me actually get my pelts or I'll look sad over here pushing people on my own.
Do you actually believe achro is mafia?

If so how confidently?

I'm not going to lie, I am not confident in it at all. I'm just annoyed enough.

Achro is in this weird state where there's been a bunch of reads/posts where I like them, but there's also another bunch that feel slimy as all hell.

I actually did like some of his progression on Porscha, for instance. But comparatively the push on Dizzy (Especially the part where he shaded Dizzy's activity) has felt slimy as all hell and as I've aggro'd that he's gone on me.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:25 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:41 pm no that was sabi talking about vivax

add vivax to the towncore
Hsssssssss
Its a good read! When has "called them by the wrong name so they're not partnered" ever failed

Unless Tommy's name is actually Matt in which case its a slip, but

It feels like the kind of thing I'd say in a brain mush state and I'd do that to partners or not partners.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:00 am Rondo you are chaos personified aren't you lol.

Yes he is.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:57 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:56 am And now you're twisting my words.

Excellent.
Well I thought it was funny x(

Sorry for your rand

Never need to be sorry for me randing town.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:56 am Looking over the thread though I stepped away from the thread for a bit but when I came back I was asking questions of you and mulling things over. I even said your profile of wolf achro wasn't reassuring while voting for you. I didn't ghost you lol.

Literally never said you ghosted.

I said you didn't push or start putting out solid reasoning until after other players made it viable.

And now you're twisting my words.

Excellent.

Trying to say anything else is twisting the logic friend.

You didn't start doing anything more than a single vote until others hopped on.

If Dizzy wasn't flavour I wouldn't have had to repeat that I townread them so much and Dizzy wouldn't have literally appealed for me to defend them.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:27 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:26 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:25 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:23 am I'mma be honest, I think Achro is hiding behind his "I didn't trust my gut in Champs and paid for it" to excuse pushing people without solid reasons and I think a decent amount of his work and sussing has been pushing flavours of the month while undermining town.
I don't believe you tbh
Oh no.

Anyway.
1. You agreed with my porscha vote eod1
2. Dizzy at no point has been flavor
3. I started this wagon on you

Zzz

1. My agreement is so important, I agree.
2. Dizzy has been flavour for people sussing them since D1. Just no wagons yet.
3. And did nothing with it until Mac tacitly approved.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:25 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:23 am I'mma be honest, I think Achro is hiding behind his "I didn't trust my gut in Champs and paid for it" to excuse pushing people without solid reasons and I think a decent amount of his work and sussing has been pushing flavours of the month while undermining town.
I don't believe you tbh

Oh no.

Anyway.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:24 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:19 am [VOTE: Achromatic] aubergine
You vote Achro over vivex?

... Read the last page and come back to this.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:23 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:21 am Okay here's my analysis of the Vivax ISO in broader strokes:
Spoiler: show

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:49 am This game vibes very differently from other experiences so far. Almost higher pitch, but maybe it's just the different site.
If you've got tips on how to compact the posts, I'll gladly take them.
Bit fried right now, but am more or less caught up on a first read and still far from having any idea how to approach the game.

Find the roster fairly hard to read, would probably throw a townread on kuti in for starters.
MacDougall quite the apparition, as usual. I'll keep him at a cautious null instead of voting him I think. Though he has already caused a good cleave in the thread based on his alignment, so on the townier side. Will decide later if I sheep.
Dyslexicon went into subduction after game start and someone instacalled them mafia.

After reviewing my first reaction upon checking in briefly, I won't really go Flanders but vibes from Dr.Wilgy felt alright at first glance.

This post is controlled and certified for my mafia meta TM
Townread on Sabi, slight townreads on Mac/Dr Wilgy, observation that people called Dizzy wolf.

This is a very "Observation instead of participation" style post, which vibes as wolf to me.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:33 am Thanks a lot. ISOs accessible like back on my homesite then.

On a reread, Seanzie and Achro stick out to me.
Achro more in their own category compared to lucy-kuti exchanges. Self-conscious early posts.
The vote on Lucy by Achro after being pinged my Mac reads really like a nervous snap reaction. Got a caveat for intentionality here, it's an elegant way to force a null read on it.
Feels like town-town though. Both sides seem to attempt an entrapment of the other.

At the bottom of P3 I spot this which gives me somewhat wolfy vibes. Mostly cause of the wolfreads which come across as a hasty mini-PoE, and cause I'm secretly hoping that the T-T interpretation is TMI and aligns with mine.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.
Seanzie stuck out cause he gave me the impression overall of being a head periodically emerging from the ground to drop off the spiciest and most impetuous take of the moment with little regard for its validity. I don't know how I should classify that strategy yet.
Tommy feeling a bit overwhelmed? I'd guess, not really a lot of oomph in the posts but I suppose that could be townie.
Again a very "Observational" style post.

Being generous I'll call that tonal style for now and assume it's NAI. Flip on Dr Wilgy with little actual care for his previous read.

Already noted the soft townread of Tommy.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:12 am Lucy, DrWilgie, Porscha currently where I'd look at the most for mafia. Preference for DrWilgie.

Wilgie's townread on Mac-Achro felt a bit like TMI snap reaction to seeing vote on Lucy and the later explanation that they were going to do it but didn't because achro did it first...is feh.
Lucy cause the tone seems a bit electrified, very keen on being generally helpful, and some association bias from reading Wilgie's reaction.
Porscha cause of post saying they didn't really have an opinion on Sean. Acceptable, but also comes across as lazy to me and embracing the convenience of early days to withhold information as mafia is legitimate. Not going to charge here for now.
Nook, Rondo worth a look into. Openwolfy perhaps?

Don't know why but Rondo makes me think of a floodgate struggling to keep itself shut. But I tend to imagine things sometimes.

Sean on a null with emphasis. Some posts would impress me if wolf. I know I said it already but I'll say it again after an ISO.
The reasoning for the wolfreads is shallow as hell, but presented as if it should be good. Then adding the other two with a vague statement at the end.

But then this:

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.
Suggests he should be townleaning Rondo?

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:50 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am Nice to see you again, @Vivax
Hey there, feeling's mutual. So far in the two games we played together you were one of the rare types I would only hesitantly want to call mafia. Was a nice surprise to see you in the playerlist.
Leaning town here cause you manage to confidently use a fraction of your possible effort while conversing.

Maybe you can help me out with the Rondo, Nook slots and chime in on the current hot potato named DrWilgy making its rounds (which would be my vote if I laid it down currently).
Sudden flat townread on Dizzy.

I will note at this point:
Town!Dizzy has a tendency to be pocketed most easily by townreading them confidently. (Yes, absolutely something you can level at me, feel free.)

Vivax knows Dizzy.

I'm levelling that accusation at Vivax.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:59 am I'm conflicted whether I should indulge Dougall in voting him while thinking he's town. No hammers anyway, so why bother. But maybe a halo will pop out above his head after a certain amount.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:51 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:50 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am Nice to see you again, @Vivax
Hey there, feeling's mutual. So far in the two games we played together you were one of the rare types I would only hesitantly want to call mafia. Was a nice surprise to see you in the playerlist.
Leaning town here cause you manage to confidently use a fraction of your possible effort while conversing.

Maybe you can help me out with the Rondo, Nook slots and chime in on the current hot potato named DrWilgy making its rounds (which would be my vote if I laid it down currently).
Why not lay down your vote already?
Because I'm a tad tired and burnt out and posting + voting around here makes me feel like I should hold the game to a higher standard, it's taking me a longer time to decide how to wrap up a post.
For no particularly discernible reason except maybe an abundance of interesting players. Or the old-school design of the site having something like a special touch.
I'm posting closer to my mafia meta for that reason. Self conscious something something.
Here is about the point I start seeing fur myself.

This is Vivax being very aware of how close they are to standard wolf!Meta.

That's actually not a good look, in my experience, as often wolves are much more spacially aware of being close to their usual wolf habits without other people bringing it up.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:05 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:02 am Lowkey prepared to lock town wilgy
Are you TMIing me town cause I scumread them?

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:14 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:08 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:05 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:02 am Lowkey prepared to lock town wilgy
Are you TMIing me town cause I scumread them?
What
Sorry. I just have the funny experience that I either nail reads at once or do the exact opposite and wolf side, until I decide to invert my view of the game after pestering towns to the point you could cook an egg on their head.
I thought maybe you were aware of that and since I was scumreading Wilgy you were pre-emptively inverting my read for that and the jab was directed at me. Seems just like an egocentrism issue on my part though.

Haven't looked at axe and flanders too intensely, but it looked like they were overwhelmingly paying attention to each other last I checked iirc. Very informative.
This is a really WEIRD interaction. I honestly don't have an alignment to slap on it.

And yes I'm aware, "weird" is a way to call something wolfy. But tbh I don't think this is specifically wolfy. Or towny. I think this is Vivax Indicative, nothing else.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 am Hey Kuti!
You can feel alarmed by the TR on you if you wish. I don't see a point in changing it in this gamestate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.
@Vivax can you explain this
Based on this post Rondo should have slapped a vote on Wilgy but decided to do a bit of stampeding elsewhere instead.
I couldn't help but imagine a chainspew of Lucy<-Wilgy<-Rondo at that point in the game.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.
so you are wolf?

I don't have a solid thought on this post. It's an explanation.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:49 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:40 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 am Hey Kuti!
You can feel alarmed by the TR on you if you wish. I don't see a point in changing it in this gamestate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.
@Vivax can you explain this
Based on this post Rondo should have slapped a vote on Wilgy but decided to do a bit of stampeding elsewhere instead.
I couldn't help but imagine a chainspew of Lucy<-Wilgy<-Rondo at that point in the game.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.
so you are wolf?

Why would Rondo do that?
Getting triggered by obviwolf post from teammate maybe? Then proceed to be an elephant in a China store to do a dance for MacDougall and you.
Or if he's wolf independently from Doc, leave behind a bad trace to them?
He's probably a better recipient for that question. I can just show you the imaginary extensions of my guesses.
Being generous, this is the kind of post that makes me doubt my scumread because it's such a convoluted tunnel to go down as scum.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:50 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 am So I have wolfreads on Achro, Axe, Flanders, Tommy, Vivax.

How many wolves are in this game?
Great reads but Vivax isn't mafia they are just an awkward human lol.
I don't see why you're treating the two as mutually exclusive.
And my mood today is no indicator for a future one. Every time I log back on, the mental wheel is spun anew.
Note: Here I'm already sussing Tommy!

I'm just calling this AI because the levels of Wifom I can get to here.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:02 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:56 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:50 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 am So I have wolfreads on Achro, Axe, Flanders, Tommy, Vivax.

How many wolves are in this game?
Great reads but Vivax isn't mafia they are just an awkward human lol.
I don't see why you're treating the two as mutually exclusive.
And my mood today is no indicator for a future one. Every time I log back on, the mental wheel is spun anew.
Because I am pretty sure he's just scumreading you cuz ur weird and he needs to know that's NAI for you lol.

And beyond that I just think you're town.
Imagine carrying so much weirdness around but not on the outside in serious contexts. Of course I let it flow freely in a virtual space, it's a playful side of the same coin wherein the other is a very composed appearance.
I'm not sure if I should believe you are scumreading Achro or if it's just bait, but in the latter case it's probably expired.
Still NAI.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:18 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:26 am Rondo and Seanzie on Mac eh. That looks fun

Vote Mac
Don't have history on this.
More weird posts, which I'll ignore for now.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:45 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:41 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:38 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:29 am FWIW I don't feel good about Porscha/Tommy being a team just based off the almost mocking way Porscha asked Tommy for their FM experience after Tommy was like 'oh Rondo is a player'
can you pull quotes

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:07 am
Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:30 pm Ohhh rondo is a player
how much FM have you played

I just found something so sincere in this question that my mind immediately went 'not aligned' tbh
Seems like a neutral question to me.
With a concealed payload of rondo pocketing.
I have thoughts.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.
Meh, this is kinda bad. But also like, nothing.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:58 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:49 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.
[VOTE: Vivax ] aubergine
Disagreeing is one thing, wolfreading me for valid logic another.
Ironically these are the most effective posts to avoid a backlash
from a player who was propagated to be a combatant
This is another "What" post.

I've decided I don't care to finish this. I just want to vote Achro and walk away.
I want to, but keeping the Porscha wagon intact is more important at this stage.

Any particularly strong reasons for the Porscha wagon?

I've sussed her but haven't had strong reasons for it.

I'mma be honest, I think Achro is hiding behind his "I didn't trust my gut in Champs and paid for it" to excuse pushing people without solid reasons and I think a decent amount of his work and sussing has been pushing flavours of the month while undermining town.

Okay here's my analysis of the Vivax ISO in broader strokes:

Spoiler: show

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:49 am This game vibes very differently from other experiences so far. Almost higher pitch, but maybe it's just the different site.
If you've got tips on how to compact the posts, I'll gladly take them.
Bit fried right now, but am more or less caught up on a first read and still far from having any idea how to approach the game.

Find the roster fairly hard to read, would probably throw a townread on kuti in for starters.
MacDougall quite the apparition, as usual. I'll keep him at a cautious null instead of voting him I think. Though he has already caused a good cleave in the thread based on his alignment, so on the townier side. Will decide later if I sheep.
Dyslexicon went into subduction after game start and someone instacalled them mafia.

After reviewing my first reaction upon checking in briefly, I won't really go Flanders but vibes from Dr.Wilgy felt alright at first glance.

This post is controlled and certified for my mafia meta TM

Townread on Sabi, slight townreads on Mac/Dr Wilgy, observation that people called Dizzy wolf.

This is a very "Observation instead of participation" style post, which vibes as wolf to me.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:33 am Thanks a lot. ISOs accessible like back on my homesite then.

On a reread, Seanzie and Achro stick out to me.
Achro more in their own category compared to lucy-kuti exchanges. Self-conscious early posts.
The vote on Lucy by Achro after being pinged my Mac reads really like a nervous snap reaction. Got a caveat for intentionality here, it's an elegant way to force a null read on it.
Feels like town-town though. Both sides seem to attempt an entrapment of the other.

At the bottom of P3 I spot this which gives me somewhat wolfy vibes. Mostly cause of the wolfreads which come across as a hasty mini-PoE, and cause I'm secretly hoping that the T-T interpretation is TMI and aligns with mine.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.
Seanzie stuck out cause he gave me the impression overall of being a head periodically emerging from the ground to drop off the spiciest and most impetuous take of the moment with little regard for its validity. I don't know how I should classify that strategy yet.
Tommy feeling a bit overwhelmed? I'd guess, not really a lot of oomph in the posts but I suppose that could be townie.

Again a very "Observational" style post.

Being generous I'll call that tonal style for now and assume it's NAI. Flip on Dr Wilgy with little actual care for his previous read.

Already noted the soft townread of Tommy.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:12 am Lucy, DrWilgie, Porscha currently where I'd look at the most for mafia. Preference for DrWilgie.

Wilgie's townread on Mac-Achro felt a bit like TMI snap reaction to seeing vote on Lucy and the later explanation that they were going to do it but didn't because achro did it first...is feh.
Lucy cause the tone seems a bit electrified, very keen on being generally helpful, and some association bias from reading Wilgie's reaction.
Porscha cause of post saying they didn't really have an opinion on Sean. Acceptable, but also comes across as lazy to me and embracing the convenience of early days to withhold information as mafia is legitimate. Not going to charge here for now.
Nook, Rondo worth a look into. Openwolfy perhaps?

Don't know why but Rondo makes me think of a floodgate struggling to keep itself shut. But I tend to imagine things sometimes.

Sean on a null with emphasis. Some posts would impress me if wolf. I know I said it already but I'll say it again after an ISO.

The reasoning for the wolfreads is shallow as hell, but presented as if it should be good. Then adding the other two with a vague statement at the end.

But then this:

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.

Suggests he should be townleaning Rondo?

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:50 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am Nice to see you again, @Vivax
Hey there, feeling's mutual. So far in the two games we played together you were one of the rare types I would only hesitantly want to call mafia. Was a nice surprise to see you in the playerlist.
Leaning town here cause you manage to confidently use a fraction of your possible effort while conversing.

Maybe you can help me out with the Rondo, Nook slots and chime in on the current hot potato named DrWilgy making its rounds (which would be my vote if I laid it down currently).

Sudden flat townread on Dizzy.

I will note at this point:
Town!Dizzy has a tendency to be pocketed most easily by townreading them confidently. (Yes, absolutely something you can level at me, feel free.)

Vivax knows Dizzy.

I'm levelling that accusation at Vivax.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:59 am I'm conflicted whether I should indulge Dougall in voting him while thinking he's town. No hammers anyway, so why bother. But maybe a halo will pop out above his head after a certain amount.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:51 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:50 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am Nice to see you again, @Vivax
Hey there, feeling's mutual. So far in the two games we played together you were one of the rare types I would only hesitantly want to call mafia. Was a nice surprise to see you in the playerlist.
Leaning town here cause you manage to confidently use a fraction of your possible effort while conversing.

Maybe you can help me out with the Rondo, Nook slots and chime in on the current hot potato named DrWilgy making its rounds (which would be my vote if I laid it down currently).
Why not lay down your vote already?
Because I'm a tad tired and burnt out and posting + voting around here makes me feel like I should hold the game to a higher standard, it's taking me a longer time to decide how to wrap up a post.
For no particularly discernible reason except maybe an abundance of interesting players. Or the old-school design of the site having something like a special touch.
I'm posting closer to my mafia meta for that reason. Self conscious something something.

Here is about the point I start seeing fur myself.

This is Vivax being very aware of how close they are to standard wolf!Meta.

That's actually not a good look, in my experience, as often wolves are much more spacially aware of being close to their usual wolf habits without other people bringing it up.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:05 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:02 am Lowkey prepared to lock town wilgy
Are you TMIing me town cause I scumread them?

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:14 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:08 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:05 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:02 am Lowkey prepared to lock town wilgy
Are you TMIing me town cause I scumread them?
What
Sorry. I just have the funny experience that I either nail reads at once or do the exact opposite and wolf side, until I decide to invert my view of the game after pestering towns to the point you could cook an egg on their head.
I thought maybe you were aware of that and since I was scumreading Wilgy you were pre-emptively inverting my read for that and the jab was directed at me. Seems just like an egocentrism issue on my part though.

Haven't looked at axe and flanders too intensely, but it looked like they were overwhelmingly paying attention to each other last I checked iirc. Very informative.

This is a really WEIRD interaction. I honestly don't have an alignment to slap on it.

And yes I'm aware, "weird" is a way to call something wolfy. But tbh I don't think this is specifically wolfy. Or towny. I think this is Vivax Indicative, nothing else.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 am Hey Kuti!
You can feel alarmed by the TR on you if you wish. I don't see a point in changing it in this gamestate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.
@Vivax can you explain this
Based on this post Rondo should have slapped a vote on Wilgy but decided to do a bit of stampeding elsewhere instead.
I couldn't help but imagine a chainspew of Lucy<-Wilgy<-Rondo at that point in the game.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.
so you are wolf?

I don't have a solid thought on this post. It's an explanation.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:49 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:40 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 am Hey Kuti!
You can feel alarmed by the TR on you if you wish. I don't see a point in changing it in this gamestate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.
@Vivax can you explain this
Based on this post Rondo should have slapped a vote on Wilgy but decided to do a bit of stampeding elsewhere instead.
I couldn't help but imagine a chainspew of Lucy<-Wilgy<-Rondo at that point in the game.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.
so you are wolf?

Why would Rondo do that?
Getting triggered by obviwolf post from teammate maybe? Then proceed to be an elephant in a China store to do a dance for MacDougall and you.
Or if he's wolf independently from Doc, leave behind a bad trace to them?
He's probably a better recipient for that question. I can just show you the imaginary extensions of my guesses.

Being generous, this is the kind of post that makes me doubt my scumread because it's such a convoluted tunnel to go down as scum.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:50 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 am So I have wolfreads on Achro, Axe, Flanders, Tommy, Vivax.

How many wolves are in this game?
Great reads but Vivax isn't mafia they are just an awkward human lol.
I don't see why you're treating the two as mutually exclusive.
And my mood today is no indicator for a future one. Every time I log back on, the mental wheel is spun anew.

Note: Here I'm already sussing Tommy!

I'm just calling this AI because the levels of Wifom I can get to here.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:02 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:56 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:50 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 am So I have wolfreads on Achro, Axe, Flanders, Tommy, Vivax.

How many wolves are in this game?
Great reads but Vivax isn't mafia they are just an awkward human lol.
I don't see why you're treating the two as mutually exclusive.
And my mood today is no indicator for a future one. Every time I log back on, the mental wheel is spun anew.
Because I am pretty sure he's just scumreading you cuz ur weird and he needs to know that's NAI for you lol.

And beyond that I just think you're town.
Imagine carrying so much weirdness around but not on the outside in serious contexts. Of course I let it flow freely in a virtual space, it's a playful side of the same coin wherein the other is a very composed appearance.
I'm not sure if I should believe you are scumreading Achro or if it's just bait, but in the latter case it's probably expired.

Still NAI.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:18 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:26 am Rondo and Seanzie on Mac eh. That looks fun

Vote Mac
Don't have history on this.

More weird posts, which I'll ignore for now.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:45 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:41 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:38 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:29 am FWIW I don't feel good about Porscha/Tommy being a team just based off the almost mocking way Porscha asked Tommy for their FM experience after Tommy was like 'oh Rondo is a player'
can you pull quotes

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:07 am
Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:30 pm Ohhh rondo is a player
how much FM have you played

I just found something so sincere in this question that my mind immediately went 'not aligned' tbh
Seems like a neutral question to me.
With a concealed payload of rondo pocketing.

I have thoughts.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.

Meh, this is kinda bad. But also like, nothing.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:58 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:49 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.
[VOTE: Vivax ] aubergine
Disagreeing is one thing, wolfreading me for valid logic another.
Ironically these are the most effective posts to avoid a backlash
from a player who was propagated to be a combatant

This is another "What" post.

I've decided I don't care to finish this. I just want to vote Achro and walk away.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:14 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:12 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:03 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:56 am
You have built a mountain about how myself and vivax were giving Tommy a pass but you didn't so much as say their name, ask a question, or ask anyone else to give a single thought about them which is in violent contrast with everyone else in your poe.

I like my vote a lot now tbh
Also kinda weirdchamp for you to compare my accusations and my actions since I barely mentioned them but you and Vivax actively made posts to try and undercut attempts to push the wagon.
For one Tommy only had one vote on them it wouldn't have been much of a pile on.

For two, yeah I am saying your interactions are worse. Vivax and I showed clear intent. We put ourselves out there and didn't want the day to devolve into just piling on Tommy. If anything given your nature of not liking to pile on you should have been there with us. I made it very clear that I wanted robust discussion and back and forth on many slots not just Tommy. You apparently had no concerns at any point to actually give voice to not piling on.

Afraid to stick up for someone you knew was wolf, I suspect. I didn't have the benefit of knowing Tommy's alignment so I was playing it as if he was rand wolf. I even said at one point if he is wolf I thought my actions to show restraint were pro town due to the benefits. I had a very nuance, detailed, and clear goal in what I was doing. I feel not an ounce of shame nor do I think I harmed town in the least.

I don't think your solving hits the mark and your day one iso is a pile of nothing tbh.
Go read my champs game and you'll see I have no fear of defending a low hanging partner.

Do not ascribe my actions to "Fear", please.

Hesitant, I will say then. I will try not to ascribe emotions to you.

As it relates to games, every one is different. Maybe you simply didn't have the appetite to deal with such a partner this game. From my view atm you have been pushing a lot of town slots and only nominally mentioned Tommy. Yeah he was nothing but you never once tried to engage.

So you think that the entire rest of my POE is town?

[VOTE: Achromatic] aubergine

And it's funny, because I don't think your solving hits the mark either.

As a wolf, my actions yesterday would have been diluting references to Tommy with other content to try and waive the wagon that way.

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