The Syndicate

Felt like classic expand the poe

I probably wouldn't have been so antagonistic towards you if I hadn't felt like you'd added my name to thepool for no reason lmao

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:39 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:38 pm Tbh I would've considered moving if Falc did
I might've been paranoid of you after Casual Dining.

You know what? I can accept this.

I think the hing I'm mildly sad about was getting townread by all the clears and re-entering discussion once they died

I shouldn't have given in to paranoia and just voted TSP second last day

Tbh I would've considered moving if Falc did

I probably could've tried salvaging something but eh. Ngl my wim was kind burnt

Yeah I figured by the hedginess. I just got stubborn over Falcon not listening to me lmao

This is deader than the mouse my cats used to catch and then play with for hours.

WEll if anyone wants to talk in the next little while I'm around, I've found no reason to change my vote tho.

For some reason I thought this game was over last night. Lmao.

Ender time is over. Gnight

Gav is gonna give me so much shit if it's actually Jack lmao.

If Jack or LC have questions I'll be around for maybe like 30m to an hour
Otherwise I'm just going to sleep.

Look, tbh I'm not changing my vote.

I've said my piece. I have an ISO.

I have like three people who vouched me town. And Nanook who vouched me scum but lmao.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:01 pm Looks like you did try and save TSP last second. Hard tho if your teammate is voting for Skip, and isn't around at EOD. You had a gold chance to actually bury TSP, if that's what you wanted, and opted for Jack...which did tie the vote w/ TSP at the time.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:38 am If I'm wolf, TSP & I vote Jack yesterday and win the game.

It's you. It's the only one that makes the most sense

How does this post work if that's the case?

You can't say "TSP & I vote" and then talk about how TSP wasn't around to vote lmao.

Also if you'd swapped I would've swapped to TSP tbh.

Most of the reason I voted Jack was because LC had been hedgey about where he was going to vote and because you were voting TSP so I wondered if teammates would actually do that.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:50 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:43 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:38 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:28 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:25 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:21 am

Casing Lime.

Maybe not. You’ve been high on Lime all game.
Casing Lime is just bad?

Like, what's your progression that ever makes me want to push someone who is blatantly town in this situation.
Nothing.

It’s just if I’m going in like “It’s Ender or Lime” I expect you and Lime to like fight each other. That didn’t happen. Hence “???”
Why not Falcon?
If I'm wolf, TSP & I vote Jack yesterday and win the game.

It's you. It's the only one that makes the most sense
If it's me, why didn't TSP and I just vote you to tie and win yesterday?

You can't use that argument against me and then ignore how it works for me.

TSP didn't vote yesterday.

TSP wasn't around to vote.

TSP's vote doesn't matter.

In fact, the lack of TSP vote suggests he was being bussed anyway, but that's just like, my opinion, dawg.
You were in bed. You've already said so

I forgot I can't vote from my bed. Voting is computers only.

This is where it's just Jack and he's slowrolling his vote.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:39 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:28 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:25 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:21 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:19 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 am Falcon is likely town for yesterday and has trended up over time besides. Lime is having the correct mentality of a townie RE: Must be just Ender. Ender is not having the correct mentality, which is ??? Possibly scummy trying to keep his options open. Idk. Need to hear those reads explained.

I’m stuck in a parking lot for awhile so let’s do some JJJ style interactive isos starting with Ender.
Lmao. What's the correct mentality?
Casing Lime.

Maybe not. You’ve been high on Lime all game.
Casing Lime is just bad?

Like, what's your progression that ever makes me want to push someone who is blatantly town in this situation.
Nothing.

It’s just if I’m going in like “It’s Ender or Lime” I expect you and Lime to like fight each other. That didn’t happen. Hence “???”
Why not Falcon?
Based on yesterday’s vote for Tony. Based on a general trending upward gut feeling.

Imma iso all three of you, though.

Remember the days where we were the two townier people after we got Seanzie out Day 1?

This makes me sad.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:38 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:28 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:25 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:21 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:19 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 am Falcon is likely town for yesterday and has trended up over time besides. Lime is having the correct mentality of a townie RE: Must be just Ender. Ender is not having the correct mentality, which is ??? Possibly scummy trying to keep his options open. Idk. Need to hear those reads explained.

I’m stuck in a parking lot for awhile so let’s do some JJJ style interactive isos starting with Ender.
Lmao. What's the correct mentality?
Casing Lime.

Maybe not. You’ve been high on Lime all game.
Casing Lime is just bad?

Like, what's your progression that ever makes me want to push someone who is blatantly town in this situation.
Nothing.

It’s just if I’m going in like “It’s Ender or Lime” I expect you and Lime to like fight each other. That didn’t happen. Hence “???”
Why not Falcon?
If I'm wolf, TSP & I vote Jack yesterday and win the game.

It's you. It's the only one that makes the most sense

If it's me, why didn't TSP and I just vote you to tie and win yesterday?

You can't use that argument against me and then ignore how it works for me.

TSP didn't vote yesterday.

TSP wasn't around to vote.

TSP's vote doesn't matter.

In fact, the lack of TSP vote suggests he was being bussed anyway, but that's just like, my opinion, dawg.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:28 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:25 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:21 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:19 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 am Falcon is likely town for yesterday and has trended up over time besides. Lime is having the correct mentality of a townie RE: Must be just Ender. Ender is not having the correct mentality, which is ??? Possibly scummy trying to keep his options open. Idk. Need to hear those reads explained.

I’m stuck in a parking lot for awhile so let’s do some JJJ style interactive isos starting with Ender.
Lmao. What's the correct mentality?
Casing Lime.

Maybe not. You’ve been high on Lime all game.
Casing Lime is just bad?

Like, what's your progression that ever makes me want to push someone who is blatantly town in this situation.
Nothing.

It’s just if I’m going in like “It’s Ender or Lime” I expect you and Lime to like fight each other. That didn’t happen. Hence “???”

Why not Falcon?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:28 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:22 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:53 am If Ender is a wolf, he’s locked himself into a bad POE.

If Ender is a townie, same story but sadder/funnier.
Or maybe, just maybe, I voted a wolf.

I'm voting Falcon again.

I can't be assed double checking worlds where you actually vote TSP yesterday at EOD.
You're locked on me being wolf over Jack & LC? I just want to get a real sense of where your read sits

Let me make it clear. I'm never voting LC in this situation. If they're wolf then TSP has big brained me hard.

Jack is an outside possibility but you don't seem particularly inclined to lean that way.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:21 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:19 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 am Falcon is likely town for yesterday and has trended up over time besides. Lime is having the correct mentality of a townie RE: Must be just Ender. Ender is not having the correct mentality, which is ??? Possibly scummy trying to keep his options open. Idk. Need to hear those reads explained.

I’m stuck in a parking lot for awhile so let’s do some JJJ style interactive isos starting with Ender.
Lmao. What's the correct mentality?
Casing Lime.

Maybe not. You’ve been high on Lime all game.

Casing Lime is just bad?

Like, what's your progression that ever makes me want to push someone who is blatantly town in this situation.

See I can see a world where Gav was actually right and Jack just didn't want to risk me swapping at the last second if he tried buzzer beating.

But also that means he hammered partner's two days of this game and I gotta give him kudos for the cajones that takes.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:53 am If Ender is a wolf, he’s locked himself into a bad POE.

If Ender is a townie, same story but sadder/funnier.

Or maybe, just maybe, I voted a wolf.

I'm voting Falcon again.

I can't be assed double checking worlds where you actually vote TSP yesterday at EOD.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:59 am Ender interactive iso Day 1
Spoiler: show

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:39 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:23 am I typed up a response to quote=EnderWiggin post_id=846109 time=1630094046 user_id=950]
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:13 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:02 am Main reasoning him starting off the game with a quote so level 0 "Pranay Rule" which is minor.

Then you got him asking Gav "why the pictures" and Allison why she's voting TSP. One question that's not going to determine anything alignment wise, and the second just a question that's just bland thar seems like busywork.
What is "pranay"?
Take 2 I guess.

Pranay - One of the best players on EM when it was still around.

Pranay Rule - Mafia players start games off with a quote. This being that mafia will want to look as comfortable as possible to start, so one way to do that is to piggyback off of someone else's conversation and look like you're instantly in stride in games.
The fact that Pranay was considered one of the best makes me sad.
Technically the first interaction with Seanzie. I get nothing out of this.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:34 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:31 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:30 pm Rondo/Seanzie has probably at least one wolf, I'll agree with that read from Gav.
Why?
Seanzie has felt more appeasing than in his town games.

Rondo is over-playing his meme-nature.

I could be jumping at shadows but Seanzie feels non-standard and I feel like Rondo is playing into what he knows I'll townread so for that reason I think he's scum.
Ender makes the first post here like 4 min earlier so I’m just quoting it once. Scumread on Seanzie (along with Rondo). Fairly weak reasoning but so is the other read so it’s not like setup for Seanzie to be the weak scumread that Ender doesn’t vote.

Vote count atp was
Rondo: Ender, Gav, Tony
Gav: Alison, Rondo, Nanook
Ender: Dyson
Seanzie: Scotty, Lime

So yeah, kinda shielding Seanzie but kinda not really.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:51 pm LC is town, Gav is town, TSP is town.

That's what I have so far.
Townreads Tony.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:03 am I still wouldn’t be against a Seanzie lynch today either

Goodnight
Sleep well.

I could be down with Seanzie as well.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:09 am Hmmm. My vote stays for now.
Says he could vote Seanzie but doesn’t. I’m assuming vote count didn’t change much here but I didn’t check.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Naked Seanzie vote the next morning following some vote realignments from dead townies like Alison and Rondo. Tentative good look.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:12 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:04 am Sean obvious town tbh
Why tho?
Nanook says Seanzie is obvious town and Ender questions it. Will note follow up on this.

For now, NAI. Both versions of Ender would be interested in this.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:16 am Maybe voting Rondo again tbh.

I just want more than one viable wagon towards eod
This post exists. I can see how this could be wolfEnder trying to move off Seanzie without it looking scummy but it doesn’t have to be that.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:19 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:16 am If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.
I don't think he's town tbh tbh tbh.
Rondo conveniently posts a vote count around here, showing himself at 4 with Seanzie and Gav at 2.

Very unclear progression from Ender. He doesn’t think Seanzie is town but may switch to Rondo but wants there to be a viable counterwagon. No actual further reasoning on his Seanzie read atp.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:47 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:46 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:23 pm Neither is self preserving.

@RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie

Gimmie your read on the other. If it’s a townread, convince me to yeet outside of you.
dont care, vote where you want, flips will show town and wolves
What is your Seanzie read?
Wants a Seanzie read from Rondo. Based on context clues, votes probably roughly tied atp but don’t take that to the bank.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:54 pm I think Seanzie is getting too free a pass here
Votes are like

Falcon - 3
Rondo - 3
Lime - 2
Seanzie - 2 (including Ender)

Decent look.
Pretty middling.

Ender definitely pushes for Seanzie at EOD. However, he never really says why and focuses a lot of negative energy on Rondo, Seanzie’s main cw. Rejects the LC cw but again, doesn’t really say why. Ignores the Falcon wagon. Naked townread on Tony.

I can see this whole day coming from either alignment.

What?

"Negative energy on Rondo"?

At EOD I explicitly say "Rondo dissipating save attempts is towny"?

Seanzie is my only real scumread by EOD1 tbh tbh.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 am Falcon is likely town for yesterday and has trended up over time besides. Lime is having the correct mentality of a townie RE: Must be just Ender. Ender is not having the correct mentality, which is ??? Possibly scummy trying to keep his options open. Idk. Need to hear those reads explained.

I’m stuck in a parking lot for awhile so let’s do some JJJ style interactive isos starting with Ender.

Lmao. What's the correct mentality?

Or if it does exist, I have been duped. But I don't think a wolf does that D1.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:40 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:18 am Honestly I'm voting Jack over LC but even then idk I probably vote falcon over either.
Can you explain why your read on Lime is that high?

What’s your reasoning for suspecting Falcon?

Wolf Seanzie is being voted Day 1
Town Falcon is put up to 4 votes
Wolf TSP comes into thread, tells everyone off for voting Town Falcon, and starts a wagon on Wolf Lime Coke to make it a tie between Wolf Seanzie and Wolf Lime Coke.

That's not a world that exists.

[VOTE: Skip] aubergine

Why is dead!Gavial voting skip lmao.

Honestly I'm voting Jack over LC but even then idk I probably vote falcon over either.

Skip is fine tbh.

Also I am one of the people who wants 48 hour days. Because I am multitabling and want to be able to solve this and if we push to 24 hours I'm gonna have to cram which is just not good.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:49 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:20 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:14 pm Was there a reason Gav kept saying Jack+Ender/Jack+Tony?

Like is there anything antialigning Tony and Ender or is it just he was more sure about me?
Other than the fact that I was pushing Tony for days?
But not when it counted tho, right?

When I went to bed on the day that Dyson was flipped I said to "Get Gav or TSP".

TSP was the leading wagon at the time I went to bed. By 2 votes.

I was more confident in TSP than Gav but honestly didn't mind Gav going over because his tunnelling was not easy for me to read.

I want to know how I park vote on my buddy and go to bed and not even care about waking up for eod lmao. (Also I stand by Dyson being a bad yeet)

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:51 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:20 am Outside chance of TSP/Jack but that feels weird because it means TSP sabotaged Jack's attempted Falcon misyeet and Jack sabotaged the LC misyeet.

Which just... doesn't feel teamed.
Interesting. So, I'm a misyeet am I?

D1 you were a leading wagon.

If TSP/Jack are a team, then Jack attempted to prop you up as a misyeet to take the fall instead of Seanzie.

TSP came in and basically chased that wagon out of town, which is what resulted in Jack's buzzer beater.

Nice attempt to take my words out of context.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:14 pm Was there a reason Gav kept saying Jack+Ender/Jack+Tony?

Like is there anything antialigning Tony and Ender or is it just he was more sure about me?

Other than the fact that I was pushing Tony for days?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:28 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:01 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:53 pm I wanna point out 2 of the clears who died locked me town so if you flip me to lose then I'm just gonna laugh.
Horrible reasoning, but I've seen town make the same claim.

Still scummy tho
All the players who read me best had me at town this game lmao.

How is that bad reasoning
Now you're modifying.

You said 2 of the lock clear towns, not the players who read me best

Weirdly, the players who read me best and the players who had me lock town are not entirely the same people.

Ilario and Rondo - the lock towns - both had me at town status.

Note: Rondo was protecting me and only said: "If TSP is wrong I rescind my protection" (TSP was not in the end wrong)

Alison has had a good track record of reading me and her read D1 was that I wasn't a wolf. It wasn't as strong as some other reads but tbh she's so far been pretty accurate on me.

Rondo is the other person who reads me best because he's got years of experience but he gets rolled into the lock clear list.

Will be rereading ISOs on this tho

Let's have some fun to start, since no locked votes:
[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:01 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:53 pm I wanna point out 2 of the clears who died locked me town so if you flip me to lose then I'm just gonna laugh.
Horrible reasoning, but I've seen town make the same claim.

Still scummy tho

All the players who read me best had me at town this game lmao.

How is that bad reasoning

What's the chances wolf!falcon busses yesterday?

Also I'm gonna point out that Yesterday was the one day I didn't vote tsp. I've been trying to get him over since D3 and pushed for him.

I did lose my nerve yesterday and vote Jack cause I thought it didn't matter and Jack had won but

I'm trying to work out what's going on here because Falcon was the hard partner I had with TSP. D1 was a clusterfuck but why did he disrupt the Falcon Wagon and then try and get LC over instead of Seanzie if all three are wolves?

If TSP actually did that then he's big brained me

I wanna point out 2 of the clears who died locked me town so if you flip me to lose then I'm just gonna laugh.

The fact I'm wrapped in blankets and bleary eyed shows because of my typos lmao

I qm qn idiot for being around but he should've voted

Ilario not being around I understand. Eod is 6am

All on myyyyy own, with only Jack beside meeeee

Saddest tragedy of this gaem, Ilario and me missing eqch other last night

Wish I'd had more wim

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