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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
The most mechanically cleared player in the game was saved at night, and there was no kill, we can stop talking about it now.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:58 pm
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It's true, there could have been 3 saves last night. The non-kill is completely irrelevant FOR NOW.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:57 pm a reminder that there are also two doctors in the setup
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:56 pm
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You're full of cacaMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:55 pmI think the only players actively townreading me are like Jack, Linearpoint and Guillo and Jack and Linearpoint have outlined good reasons. Guillo might just be pocketing me.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:52 pmI might be wrong about your alignment, and still you'll agree with what's in bold post-game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:46 pmYou are just entirely outrageously wrong in your appraisal here.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:40 pmI'm open to any thoughts on it. It seems everyone is content with "Mac posted some things that sound somewhat intelligent, he must be town". Mac himself in postgame will admit that nothing he's posted to this point is alignment indicative in the slightest, or the actual nuance that makes it alignment indicative actually isn't what he's being read for.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:37 pm Why does wolf NAA ever post that to wolf Nanook?
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I don't know how anyone town reads this guy, it's about as crazy as people town reading me for being erratic at times and/or deliberately taking a few pages out of the game to go off on a tangent. It's just not the way to read the player.
I've been townie. If I hadn't been I'd be getting pushed a lot harder because that's what happens to me. I have a townie claim (that I am backed into a corner to use the way town forces me to use it) and I immediately tried to turbo Sabie when day 2 started well before Marmot outed the red check.
Your arguments that I am not town are confirmation bias, paranoia, tinfoil and StarV brand bad logic mixed together in a blender and out came this shit read.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:55 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
@MartinGG99 Also 2 saves
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:54 pm
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2 players blocked, 2 players saved.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:54 pm sooooo from what I understand
LC claimed block on Jack
but for some reason we're voting Nanook 800ish posts later?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:52 pm
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I might be wrong about your alignment, and still you'll agree with what's in bold post-game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:46 pmYou are just entirely outrageously wrong in your appraisal here.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:40 pmI'm open to any thoughts on it. It seems everyone is content with "Mac posted some things that sound somewhat intelligent, he must be town". Mac himself in postgame will admit that nothing he's posted to this point is alignment indicative in the slightest, or the actual nuance that makes it alignment indicative actually isn't what he's being read for.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:37 pm Why does wolf NAA ever post that to wolf Nanook?
brainfullof.png
I don't know how anyone town reads this guy, it's about as crazy as people town reading me for being erratic at times and/or deliberately taking a few pages out of the game to go off on a tangent. It's just not the way to read the player.
I've been townie. If I hadn't been I'd be getting pushed a lot harder because that's what happens to me. I have a townie claim (that I am backed into a corner to use the way town forces me to use it) and I immediately tried to turbo Sabie when day 2 started well before Marmot outed the red check.
Your arguments that I am not town are confirmation bias, paranoia, tinfoil and StarV brand bad logic mixed together in a blender and out came this shit read.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:50 pm
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Most of them aren't worth reading, and a good chunk of them aren't game-related.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:48 pm oh jfc
did the game really jump 1k pages in the last 24 hours
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:47 pm
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You know Mac, I find it much harder to get any kind of vibe from you over text compared to video.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:46 pm
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:44 pm I would care about this push if it was anyone other than NAA who nobody ever listens to anyway.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:40 pm
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I'm open to any thoughts on it. It seems everyone is content with "Mac posted some things that sound somewhat intelligent, he must be town". Mac himself in postgame will admit that nothing he's posted to this point is alignment indicative in the slightest, or the actual nuance that makes it alignment indicative actually isn't what he's being read for.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:37 pm Why does wolf NAA ever post that to wolf Nanook?
brainfullof.png
I don't know how anyone town reads this guy, it's about as crazy as people town reading me for being erratic at times and/or deliberately taking a few pages out of the game to go off on a tangent. It's just not the way to read the player.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:33 pm
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@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME Thoughts?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:32 pm I think Mac's line of thought this entire game is
"Holy fuck, the CFD was all town"
"Killing the CFD players outs me as wolf"
"Hey guys, the CFD might have all been town"
"Actually fuck it, let's kill the CFD"
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:32 pm
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I think Mac's line of thought this entire game is
"Holy fuck, the CFD was all town"
"Killing the CFD players outs me as wolf"
"Hey guys, the CFD might have all been town"
"Actually fuck it, let's kill the CFD"
"Holy fuck, the CFD was all town"
"Killing the CFD players outs me as wolf"
"Hey guys, the CFD might have all been town"
"Actually fuck it, let's kill the CFD"
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:29 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
I'm disproportionately more likely to town read Nanook in a hostile environment - so take my read with a grain of salt.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:26 pmWhy are you resistant to the idea that Nanook is mafia?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:24 pm Or Nanook is just not Mafia, and Mac is peddling whatever LHF will get him to his next win.
When Nanook said he wouldn't save Sabie, only to fuck her over on N1, I believe that. Also, Mafia team always having their scummiest player hold the kill is not Nanook's playbook. Like, Nanook was blocked last night right, so that assumes he had Sabie carry KP N1 and him N2, I just don't think it's how he plays.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:27 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
lel
Mac pretending like he just had this thought now, town!Mac would have had this thought at the time of the claim before Gavial commented, and dismissed it outright.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:25 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
@Marmot What are your updated thoughts on the situation? Do we stand firm?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:24 pm
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Or Nanook is just not Mafia, and Mac is peddling whatever LHF will get him to his next win.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:59 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
If I were a vig I'd shoot Mac.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:45 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
Mac's progression:
Slank
Tryhard
Actually, I cba to think about this anymore... And by the way, you can flip me as well.
How is this town?
Slank
Tryhard
Actually, I cba to think about this anymore... And by the way, you can flip me as well.
How is this town?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:13 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
No, soldiers can make other players unblockable, based on my read.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:11 pmApparently, wolf soldiers are unblockable when carrying the kill. Per LP per the setup. Imma be mad if that’s not the case.sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:08 pmWait why would you be unblockable?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:03 pmYou’re not letting me off the hook because I post well in a spurt. You’re letting me off the hook because the only reason to suspect me is because you blocked me but if I was a wolf, I’d be unblockable anyway so there’s no reason to suspect me in the first place.
Town
Marmot
Lime
Mac
LP
Guillo
Dolby
Tony
Martin
Wilgy
Sig
Gav
Falcon
Nanook
Wolf
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:06 pm
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I give my reads in an attempt to steer the game in the correct direction. My reads have no weight this game, I'm certainly not going to start explaining them, and make it easier for people to read me. There's 1 thing I've done in this game that instantly defines my alignment if you can find it. When I realized I was like, ah fuck... Such a billboard player.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:56 pmPretending you don’t have responsibility for your own vote is antitown and I don’t understand the mindset.
How are we supposed to read you if you refuse to think for yourself?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:51 pm
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Marmot is a triple voter, you know who to appeal to.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:47 pm
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I'm aware, and I think it's stupid, but it doesn't clear you of being mafia.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:46 pmIt clears me of what I’m being accused of, carrying the mafia kill and then getting roleblocked and that’s why nobody died last night.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:43 pmI don't see how that claim clears you - it seems to target another player. If you're the soldier, you likely didn't carry KP, but that's kind of irrelevant to my vote.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:26 pmLolololololololLinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am Actually no, Soldier makes the Mafia factional kill unstoppable by roleblocks, healing, immunity, and redirection.
So, there's no way Marmot used that on a Mafia last night.
My claim does confirm me.
I’m the other soldier. If I was a wolf carrying the kill, I couldn’t be blocked.
You are aware that’s the case on me, right? The entire case.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:43 pm
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I don't see how that claim clears you - it seems to target another player. If you're the soldier, you likely didn't carry KP, but that's kind of irrelevant to my vote.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:26 pmLolololololololLinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am Actually no, Soldier makes the Mafia factional kill unstoppable by roleblocks, healing, immunity, and redirection.
So, there's no way Marmot used that on a Mafia last night.
My claim does confirm me.
I’m the other soldier. If I was a wolf carrying the kill, I couldn’t be blocked.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:53 pm
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Idk, I wouldn't, but there are very few players who would listen to my input... So it's basically irrelevantTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:50 pm so i think like mac is town and got shot or lc is town and got off a block
who shoots mac? is that a world?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:52 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
It's ok, I figure by day 4 we'll start understanding each other and I'll be firmly in your town circle.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:48 pmYour existence is sus.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:47 pmEveryone except for me, right?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:46 pmI dunno who to trust, everyone sus.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:59 amWhy, Dolby?Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:21 amI’m not fully there yet but yeah Nanook sus as hell. I blocked him last nightLinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:19 amCurrently I don't know. No one really stands out as extremely obvious.
Nanook I'm putting at about 99% guarenteed Mafia.
Jack might be just because of the RB really, and the last one is between Gullio, Martin, Mac, NAA, or Dolby.
Guillo imo has no place in the PoE with that list of names
And Why @LinearPoint ? Why am I in that PoE?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:47 pm
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Everyone except for me, right?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:46 pmI dunno who to trust, everyone sus.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:59 amWhy, Dolby?Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:21 amI’m not fully there yet but yeah Nanook sus as hell. I blocked him last nightLinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:19 amCurrently I don't know. No one really stands out as extremely obvious.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:16 amwho are your scum?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:15 am And I mean if Gav is already basically taking random shots at probably townies is it really that different to random his shot?
Nanook I'm putting at about 99% guarenteed Mafia.
Jack might be just because of the RB really, and the last one is between Gullio, Martin, Mac, NAA, or Dolby.
Guillo imo has no place in the PoE with that list of names
And Why @LinearPoint ? Why am I in that PoE?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:41 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
LOLNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:40 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:38 pmThat’s fucking stupid.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:35 pmI'll need to defer to one of the experts on the subject, I am just following their rule by voicing my independent thoughts, but conforming to their decisions.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:34 pmExplain how it’s gamethrowing to not yeet a townie.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:33 pm Fwiw jack, I think you're town, but not voting you is game throwing.
I refuse to be yeeted by an overzealous townie liar (Lime, I’m not mech outted), an insane person (Gav) and three players that are shugging their shoulders and being like “I don’t care/understand.”
Fuck off with that. I’m the unyeetable Jackofhearts. You cannot kill me with shrugs.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:40 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
Unless everyone is claiming, then he can
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:40 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
This guy makes good arguments.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:39 pmThe mech says you're roughly null (i think) (maybe)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:33 pm I’d yeet Nanook atp. He can hang out with Falcon on my scumreads.
It’s one thing to sheep another player.
It’s another thing to point out that what is actually being she does is bad mech and continuing to do it. That’s antitown.
So in the absence of a strong scumread myself im gonna sheep the functionally confirmed town
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:39 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
As it turns out, we can...Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:38 pmThat’s fucking stupid.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:35 pmI'll need to defer to one of the experts on the subject, I am just following their rule by voicing my independent thoughts, but conforming to their decisions.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:34 pmExplain how it’s gamethrowing to not yeet a townie.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:33 pm Fwiw jack, I think you're town, but not voting you is game throwing.
I refuse to be yeeted by an overzealous townie liar (Lime, I’m not mech outted), an insane person (Gav) and three players that are shugging their shoulders and being like “I don’t care/understand.”
Fuck off with that. I’m the unyeetable Jackofhearts. You cannot kill me with shrugs.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:39 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
Guillo was probably bluffing.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:38 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
@Jackofhearts2005 my scum reads are Dolby mac falcon, what do you think of that?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:36 pm
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Yeah, it was a good jab.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:36 pmhow can you vote for this I laughed for a full second and a half
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:35 pm
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I'll need to defer to one of the experts on the subject, I am just following their rule by voicing my independent thoughts, but conforming to their decisions.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:34 pmExplain how it’s gamethrowing to not yeet a townie.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:33 pm Fwiw jack, I think you're town, but not voting you is game throwing.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:33 pm
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Fwiw jack, I think you're town, but not voting you is game throwing.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:27 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
Batter upTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:26 pm dolby/gav/wilgy
nanook on deck
probably works just fine tbh
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
I'm not reading a whole game. I haven't even read 1/2 of this one.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:24 pmYeah, read his last scum game, He had me at numerous times as his top scum read, and he only voted me 1 RD IIRC. Akemi HomuraNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:22 pmIt is, but does anyone have an example of scum!Gavial claiming he's not voting his top read as mafia? Meta?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:22 pm
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It is, but does anyone have an example of scum!Gavial claiming he's not voting his top read as mafia? Meta?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:20 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Not at the time he was quoting from (at least I didn't get that impression at the time)TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:17 pmBoth snipers have claimedNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:50 pmYes, the very fact that I'm saying I want to prevent the shot indicates that I think he's town given that I can't prevent a scum shot.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:49 pmDo you TR Guillo here?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:14 pmI think Guillo is fake claiming to be honest, but it's not really worth the risk because he's a player who would 100% target me if he has a role, whereas everyone else is a bit more up in the air.
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:19 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
We could just mass claim, and play mountainous
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:07 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
Because he would shoot me, I thought this was very obvious to everyone.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:59 pmYou didn't want a Town Vig to have a shot? Catch me up on whyNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:58 pmNo, I voted him under the assumption that he could be a town vigilante, so that he wouldn't be able to shoot.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:55 pmYou said it was unfortunate you had to vote Guillo...but in so doing, you thought you were saving him from a Vig shot?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pmWhatfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:51 pmThen it really wouldn't be unfortunate that you voted him, would it?
Which would mean it is not unfortunate to vote for him?
- Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:06 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
Idk I'm confused
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
I'm not actually sure how to quantify it, it's almost certain that a role blocked target has a higher % chance of being mafia... But how much?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:59 pmCan we not say that there were five events which could have stopped a nk, so there's a 1/5 chance of any one of them being the effective one?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:57 pmIn the event that the medic save stopped the kill, it's 50/50 which save did it...NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:54 pmWhat did I missNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pmThis is why you failed statistics.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:51 pmAs far as I can tell there's a 25% chance for a roleblocked player to be mafia* (two blocks and two save claims), thats like...above rand, but not by that much.Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:58 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:43 pm Just finished reading that Akemi game and Gavial's play there is identical here.
Meta wins
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergineNo see this is where Mac went wrong.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:45 pm Figuring out if Gavial was TWTBW or actual scum was tough work, holy shit.
He’s basing my entire meta off of that game instead of all my games or majority of them.
Please play optimal here, we kill a roleblocked player today (Jack or Nanook) or we just suffer like hell late game.
*33% from me or Jack's pov
Oh there should be a third potential save out there right
So 20% yeah
Idk im tired maybe I'm doing it wrong
In the event a block stopped the kill it's 50/50 which did it.
However given that a has no relationship with B, we can't say all of these events have even probability.
As you know I'm awful at math so
So, if we consider every player has an equal probability of being a target, then the probability that a role block blocking the kill is higher... However, if we consider that each player has an equal probability of carrying the kill, then the save has a higher % chance of having stopped the kill
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
I'm sheeping Marmot. Independent thought is game throwing.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:58 pmVote one of us then. Are you TR LC?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:54 pmI thought the message was clear the first time I ignored this question.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pmWhat about Mac, Dolby & I's behavior makes you think we're scum?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:39 pmMy top 3 picks are mac, falcon, Dolby. Do you town read any of these?
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
No, I voted him under the assumption that he could be a town vigilante, so that he wouldn't be able to shoot.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:55 pmYou said it was unfortunate you had to vote Guillo...but in so doing, you thought you were saving him from a Vig shot?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pmWhatfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:51 pmNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:48 pmIn a game where votes throw off vig shots, yes.Then it really wouldn't be unfortunate that you voted him, would it?
Which would mean it is not unfortunate to vote for him?
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
In the event that the medic save stopped the kill, it's 50/50 which save did it...NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:54 pmWhat did I missNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pmThis is why you failed statistics.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:51 pmAs far as I can tell there's a 25% chance for a roleblocked player to be mafia* (two blocks and two save claims), thats like...above rand, but not by that much.Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:58 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:43 pm Just finished reading that Akemi game and Gavial's play there is identical here.
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[VOTE: Gavial] aubergineNo see this is where Mac went wrong.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:45 pm Figuring out if Gavial was TWTBW or actual scum was tough work, holy shit.
He’s basing my entire meta off of that game instead of all my games or majority of them.
Please play optimal here, we kill a roleblocked player today (Jack or Nanook) or we just suffer like hell late game.
*33% from me or Jack's pov
Oh there should be a third potential save out there right
So 20% yeah
Idk im tired maybe I'm doing it wrong
In the event a block stopped the kill it's 50/50 which did it.
However given that a has no relationship with B, we can't say all of these events have even probability.
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
I thought the message was clear the first time I ignored this question.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pmWhat about Mac, Dolby & I's behavior makes you think we're scum?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:39 pmMy top 3 picks are mac, falcon, Dolby. Do you town read any of these?
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
Whatfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:51 pmNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:48 pmIn a game where votes throw off vig shots, yes.Then it really wouldn't be unfortunate that you voted him, would it?
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]
This is why you failed statistics.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:51 pmAs far as I can tell there's a 25% chance for a roleblocked player to be mafia* (two blocks and two save claims), thats like...above rand, but not by that much.Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:58 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:43 pm Just finished reading that Akemi game and Gavial's play there is identical here.
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[VOTE: Gavial] aubergineNo see this is where Mac went wrong.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:45 pm Figuring out if Gavial was TWTBW or actual scum was tough work, holy shit.
He’s basing my entire meta off of that game instead of all my games or majority of them.
Please play optimal here, we kill a roleblocked player today (Jack or Nanook) or we just suffer like hell late game.
*33% from me or Jack's pov