The Syndicate

Honestly looking at the wagons, I still feel like Mansnicks is the most likely to be a hit. I still haven't found him towny from when I noticed his odd posts.

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

I'm up, I'm at work and I'm on phone so this is going to be a bit of a hassle.

What's vote count at?

In all seriousness I feel like the Mac/Honey stuff was kinda t/t bickering. Mac trying to take the game more serious since we're in the midst of Day 1 and he's been trying to solve and read the players. Plus he appears to be shifting his reads according to what he's seeing while every player posts on.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:10 pm Tbf the uno reverse is an entirely valid strategy

You mean the middle finger card?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:03 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:39 pm you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Honey. I find the gamestate hard to deal with because of it.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:45 pm Like 80% of EM players are mass posters. Our games are an insane amount to read so saying we flood the thread is an understatement and is totally NAI.

Basically my answer to that since that's who I thought you were talking about.

I understand why it could be jarring to those that aren't used to mass posting. I'm partially to blame because I've fucked around in the game, sorry about that.

Actual in game stuff I'm saying that I still strongly townread Honey if that's not obvious. I was going to warn her about her post count since she's past 3/4ths of the way but she got the memo already.

I had something else to say when I was reading while grilling outside but I completely forgot it.

honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:48 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:45 pm Like 80% of EM players are mass posters. Our games are an insane amount to read so saying we flood the thread is an understatement and is totally NAI.

THIS IS META DO NOT READ IF YOU HATE META

Spoiler: show

actually fun fact ive never been top poster as wolf i just cant fake it it's my truth tell but im not always top poster as town if there are other high posters, but usually

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:45 pm

honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:29 pm Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

on d2 sure

weren't you the one who asked me for links to my past games..?

One is diving in meta to check something and other is to clog the thread with other games stories.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:37 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:29 pm Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

Counterpoint: meta from other games reflect onto this game, especially in a D1 where all we have to go on are vibes and metas

Making meta the main subject only helps wolves to blend in

That's my bad. I trail off on different things when I'm mentioned. Sorry about that.

Like 80% of EM players are mass posters. Our games are an insane amount to read so saying we flood the thread is an understatement and is totally NAI.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:39 pm you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:38 pm Oh well guess I'm gonna be the designated counterwagon to save wolf.

Dude I've literally seen you do more in a 40+ player game as town. I don't believe you do significantly less with less players as town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:31 pm I change my mind I think Honey is a wolf

Well what I've gotten so far-

Townreading:
Honey
TH
Scott
Alison

Scumreading
Creature
Mansnicks

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Switching to voting Creature for now because I'm more confident that he's(?) a more likely hit than Mansnicks.

honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:04 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:59 pm

Spoiler: show

honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:58 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:50 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:43 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:26 am

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

How do you read Honey's townreading of LC?

The meta defenses ping me as possibly W/W. When one wolf has to defend another (and the wolves can't really afford to bus if two members have come under fire so fast) and the other wolf has done nothing actually townie (which LC hasn't) then they often resort to "they're in their town meta, trust me".

The exception is this particular line:

i thought lime and th's motives were pure so i tred them for defen
ding me

Which doesn't read like a wolf talking about their buddy. This reads like genuine gratefulness that someone stepped up to the plate to defend them. I'm not sure I see anywhere that honey TMIs LC or the other way around though.

bingo!!! i cant have tmi if i'm town
i dont think i put this part in on my limecoke reads but i was thinking it:

limecoke i have only seen endgame once as scum (rare) - never seen him endgame as town im pretty sure? as scum he gets found out as town he gets fear killed so i wasn't really planning to concretely solve him bc i feel like he will solve himself, ik some people sus him but i dont see it yet so i'm just waiting

my current meta points to him being town bc last game he was scum and very gently sided with me over his scumbuddy when i was towntelling and didnt push on me but it was by no means a shield and the games before that i saw him hard shield passionately like freaking spartacus and he was town

I mean unless you count Pokemaf when you were Misdreavous I end gamed that one. I usually get night killed because I'm typically buried deep in the towncore and I'm never a viable ML. Only gotten mislynched 1 time as town so far.

epicmafia games are a blur to me now so they dont count but u get fearkilled a lot on MU

I know it sucks that the site went down because I want to revisit those games. Now I can barely remember them.

honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:58 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:50 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:43 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:26 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:07 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:53 pm
hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

How do you read Honey's townreading of LC?

The meta defenses ping me as possibly W/W. When one wolf has to defend another (and the wolves can't really afford to bus if two members have come under fire so fast) and the other wolf has done nothing actually townie (which LC hasn't) then they often resort to "they're in their town meta, trust me".

The exception is this particular line:

i thought lime and th's motives were pure so i tred them for defen
ding me

Which doesn't read like a wolf talking about their buddy. This reads like genuine gratefulness that someone stepped up to the plate to defend them. I'm not sure I see anywhere that honey TMIs LC or the other way around though.

bingo!!! i cant have tmi if i'm town
i dont think i put this part in on my limecoke reads but i was thinking it:

limecoke i have only seen endgame once as scum (rare) - never seen him endgame as town im pretty sure? as scum he gets found out as town he gets fear killed so i wasn't really planning to concretely solve him bc i feel like he will solve himself, ik some people sus him but i dont see it yet so i'm just waiting

my current meta points to him being town bc last game he was scum and very gently sided with me over his scumbuddy when i was towntelling and didnt push on me but it was by no means a shield and the games before that i saw him hard shield passionately like freaking spartacus and he was town

I mean unless you count Pokemaf when you were Misdreavous I end gamed that one. I usually get night killed because I'm typically buried deep in the towncore and I'm never a viable ML. Only gotten mislynched 1 time as town so far.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:08 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:51 pm Ok I'm here for a little bit, someone tell me who to sheep

Mac, duh!

Just kidding.. form your own reads smh

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:24 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:09 pm

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:34 am

@Lime Coke - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?

In forum mafia format, way more experience as town than I do as mafia.

My first like 15 games were all town in FM format.

I did hit a slight streak of flipping mafia in the past like...2 months? Including the one Honey has referenced a few times where I was mafia and she was town.
I've only won 1 time as mafia though, the rest were L's.

I've finally hit a town streak now though.

Something about this seems showy

Stating facts about my town:mafia ratio? I mean it's the truth I constantly rolled town when I first started playing back in January. Half of those were on EM which is dead so I can't show you that but I can link you the others.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:39 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:28 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:26 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:23 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:16 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:13 pm Creature scum imo

I can see why.

But why?

His vote for Ender came unnatural after mine.

His all Iso don't have a single towny vibe, and he looked suspect for me. That vote is the trigger for me expressing the read

Right I don't think I've actually seen the dude out a single read yet. He's talked about soup kills and Avatar.

You said you can see why.
What was your thought at the moment you posted that?

I typically have the same reads that others obtain, but I end up having different reasons. I asked your reasoning to see what you were seeing and overall curiosity.

Plus people tend to NOT answer that when I ask why so yeah. I was shocked you even answered.

You said "I can see why."

Expand on your reason please, its OK if you "end up having different reasons", it's even better ^^

"I can see why" was what I said in my response to your reasoning. Dude just flat out has fillered and never outed a single read. Just stuff about soup kills.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:28 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:26 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:23 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:16 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:13 pm Creature scum imo

I can see why.

But why?

His vote for Ender came unnatural after mine.

His all Iso don't have a single towny vibe, and he looked suspect for me. That vote is the trigger for me expressing the read

Right I don't think I've actually seen the dude out a single read yet. He's talked about soup kills and Avatar.

You said you can see why.
What was your thought at the moment you posted that?

I typically have the same reads that others obtain, but I end up having different reasons. I asked your reasoning to see what you were seeing and overall curiosity.

Plus people tend to NOT answer that when I ask why so yeah. I was shocked you even answered.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:23 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:16 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:13 pm Creature scum imo

I can see why.

But why?

His vote for Ender came unnatural after mine.

His all Iso don't have a single towny vibe, and he looked suspect for me. That vote is the trigger for me expressing the read

Right I don't think I've actually seen the dude out a single read yet. He's talked about soup kills and Avatar.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:13 pm Creature scum imo

I can see why.

But why?

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:34 am

@Lime Coke - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?

In forum mafia format, way more experience as town than I do as mafia.

My first like 15 games were all town in FM format.

I did hit a slight streak of flipping mafia in the past like...2 months? Including the one Honey has referenced a few times where I was mafia and she was town.
I've only won 1 time as mafia though, the rest were L's.

I've finally hit a town streak now though.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:36 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:44 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:43 pm Zero people picking up my Lime Coke suspicion strengthens my suspicion even more.

What's even suspicious about me?

What about my suspicion on Mansnicks?

You are suspicious because of post #108 where you hedged on Falcon in a way designed to draw negative attention towards him while maintaining plausible deniability, followed by attempting to shade mansnicks for something that isn't scummy at all.

I think mansnicks is obvious town.

Wasn't really a hedge? I scumread off of something that I saw with my own reasoning, which has seem to have worked in the past couple of games for me. I didn't see anyone else going for Falcon or remember why they were but I just expressed it was weird of Falcon to question something that was a joke from Honey.

But I did say they (Honey and Falcon) looked better interacting with each other.

It wasn't as bad as Mansnick's "WHAT!?!?!!?!?" which I'm still just grossed out by.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:39 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:19 pm Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

so Alison is the one Falcon is trying to pocket there? Was Falcon vocally suspicious of Lime Coke before Alison started talking about Lime?

Lime Coke's "Falcon looks iffy for questioning this, but is overall fine" feels more like a cowardly shade than an interaction with a partner. Falcon attacks Lime Coke aggressively shortly thereafter, which also does not fit with two wolf buddies taking a hedgy stance towards each other. I also independently townread Falcon, so for all those reasons I don't think they're W/W.

Is it cowardly shade or hedging off a read? Which one is it?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:44 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:54 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:53 pm like alison will find it wolfy but to me it just comes across as like insecure

I don't think it should be wolfy? She's relatively comfortable.

Plus she's got her town entitlement already which is a strong towntell for her.

Elaborate?

When Honey is town majority of her responses to anyone scumreading or voting her would be "I'm town, what the fuck are you doing? Fuck off with that shit." Like her despise in people voting her when she's town, or not townreading her in general, is extremely strong.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:46 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:57 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:56 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:53 pm like alison will find it wolfy but to me it just comes across as like insecure

i wouldnt say insecure i'm literally just trying to joke and be playful but it's too srs here i think for that

Because people here are boring as hell apparently.

Fun fact: I've been told I have a boring playstyle in every single game I've played seriously, video or otherwise. I like trading all the pieces and winning in endgame in chess, playing zoning characters in fighting games, afk farmers in MOBAs, control characters in BattleCON, etc.

I'm just a very boring person.

Completely off topic but I'm not against zoning? Unless there's a particular matchup that allows zoning to happen, I normally don't play a zoning style because I can't get the spacing or neutral down correctly. Going AGAINST zoners makes things interesting for me because I have to figure out how to approach them while avoiding the projectiles.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:38 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:37 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:35 pm w-what does that card do

I'd tell you but it's a PG broadcast.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:36 pm That is not my card, but it looks just like it

God dammit. It was green wasn't it?

Pink. Close, but you're way off

One can only fail so hard.

Some day I'll get it though.

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:35 pm w-what does that card do

I'd tell you but it's a PG broadcast.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:36 pm That is not my card, but it looks just like it

God dammit. It was green wasn't it?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:29 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:25 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:12 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:11 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:08 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:58 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:44 pm
Who’s your top scum read? Who are you voting right now?

Falcon.

The poll says otherwise

Poll is N1 immunity in this game. Yeet votes are in thread.

No no, you see this is one of his ‘jokes’!

First off, tongue in cheek does not mean joke.


Second off, if it was one of MY jokes, you'd be e-transfering me money right now because of how much my hilarity has enriched your life. You might even pen me into your will...personally I feel that's too generous, but who am I to say?


Third off I don't know what your poll N1 immunity mumbo jumbo is all about. Whatchooo talking about willis?

See the poll above the thread? We can vote for up to 2 people on it. The person with the most votes gets N1 kill immunity. As in they can't be killed on N1.

See the thread? When you post someone with vote tags, it votes them. There is no poll voting for lynch in this game.

Now see the card I'm holding. This is the card you picked out.

See me toss the card straight up in the air as it floats away in the wind.

See me shuffle the deck.

See me pick the card out from the middle of the deck.

See me show you the card.

Is this your card?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:19 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:07 pm Here I am for a bit.

Currently like how Scott is reading the game. I see myself agreeing with what he's been saying so far.

in scotty land that would mean you should wolf read scotty

The enemy to my enemy is my enemy.

I have no friends.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:16 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:14 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:12 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:10 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:06 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:34 pm

oh really? what's so funny about them?

You townread then scumread me within 15 minutes of my arrival.

Fastest turnaround yet.

What abt me I scumread u then tred you within 15 mins of ur arrival

You aren't someone I know who has turned around town/scum reads on me in previous games. =P I'm memeing at Mac.

omg ender is it true what scotty says? do you really feel weird vibes about me?

Should I get him?

This honey protection toon squad reads friendzone in the dictionary my friend

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:12 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:10 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:06 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:34 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:30 pm what's funny?

Your reads.

oh really? what's so funny about them?

You townread then scumread me within 15 minutes of my arrival.

Fastest turnaround yet.

What abt me I scumread u then tred you within 15 mins of ur arrival

You aren't someone I know who has turned around town/scum reads on me in previous games. =P I'm memeing at Mac.

omg ender is it true what scotty says? do you really feel weird vibes about me?

Should I get him?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:08 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:07 pm Here I am for a bit.

Currently like how Scott is reading the game. I see myself agreeing with what he's been saying so far.

ruh roh

It's a gift and a curse, You're welcome.

Here I am for a bit.

Currently like how Scott is reading the game. I see myself agreeing with what he's been saying so far.

Speaking of bets...due to a recent bet I made thinking someone was town during a game that ended up being scum, I'm bingewatching Elite on Netflix.

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:27 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:12 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:08 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:06 pm

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:05 pm honey i will defend u with my life dw about being a ml

Also on the Honey Protection Squad.

wait i love it here now =^__^=

You don't feel pocketed in the least, do ya?

So you admit you know I'm town..

I'm ignoring the small part of me that says it could be a pocket because moving the pressure off my slot to be put onto other slots is good for town solving this game

Limecoke did pocket me last game but his tone feels way more genuine this game not frantic or waffly which is how i see his town game also IF somehow this is wrong it'll become obvious later I dont think limecoke endgames a lot.. I've specced it once but in the games I've played w him he's been bussed completely and also fearkilled as villager.

How did I pocket you when I was 3rd party and you were mafia?

Keep in mind though that was an anonymous game and I didn't even expect Honey to be in the game and was flat out shocked when I saw her name on the list. I don't think she knew I was in the game either because I didn't type in my usual proper English.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:18 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:15 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:07 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:01 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:58 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:37 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:30 pm

No. I noticed their post re: mansnicks "reaction is awkard & over the top" as a bit out of place, but it was their reaction to Alison's suspicion that really pinged me

Explain why? I've been told twice I look suspicious but no one wants to fucking talk about it.

IME, player's who are overly concerned about why they're seen as suspicious come from a wolf mindset, especially when it's the first mention of them being sus.


Most of the time town aren't that concerned about being seen as suspicious by 1 player, they just go about their game and carry on. Perhaps if the sus keeps building from other players they'll react, but off 1 player? Not so much. Wolves on the other hand are often worried about being seen as sus

When she voted me I ignored and and went on. The she literally mentioned me a second time, and said "there's no momentum on this wagon" after like...10 minutes? Why would I not just ask why while I'm here posting?

Am I supposed to ignore it? The fuck kind of logic is that?

What exactly is your goal asking Alison why they find you suspicious? Do you seek to change their mind?


It also feels like your treating her slot as town suspecting you....why are you assuming she's town?

Yes? Why else would I be asking "Why am I sus?"

I don't townread her currently I'm trying to figure out why she's trying to get me out. Typically I can tell if my entrance or first couple posts are good or not.

Main example here.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost4982972

I was Mystery Player, I knew my posts sucked to start and when SPF voted me I agreed my posts sucked, and I knew that I'd be obvious town to SPF because I know that she's good.

This game I feel like my posts have been fine. So seeing votes on me has me questioning why the hell I'm being voted and people are trying to bring attention to me when I'm towny.

Also the other thing is that I'm trying to figure out how or why she's pushing me. Lately I've been tunneling town players for sus'ing me super early in games for no reason. So I don't want to make that same mistake here.

Well, if you don't townread her, I'd say her reasons for trying to get you killed would be obvious (if you're town).


TBH this post reads like a frustrated wolf who feels their game has been more towny than their votes deserve

Or you're just an idiot that's coming up with excuses to scumread me instead of using actual fucking logic.

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:09 pm sometimes i forget people arent in my head seeing where my thoughts and ideas come from so ig i can kindaaaa get the confusion w what i did but > )

I mean...sure...but there's points where people should know when a post is obviously a joke. If they don't then they're either mafia trying to look like they're scumhunting players (Or "busy work" as I like to say) or they're town and they're stupid.

I typically find it that when someone pushes on or questions a player that makes a joke post they're usually mafia.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:07 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:01 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:58 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:37 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:30 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:19 pm Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

so Alison is the one Falcon is trying to pocket there? Was Falcon vocally suspicious of Lime Coke before Alison started talking about Lime?

No. I noticed their post re: mansnicks "reaction is awkard & over the top" as a bit out of place, but it was their reaction to Alison's suspicion that really pinged me

Explain why? I've been told twice I look suspicious but no one wants to fucking talk about it.

IME, player's who are overly concerned about why they're seen as suspicious come from a wolf mindset, especially when it's the first mention of them being sus.


Most of the time town aren't that concerned about being seen as suspicious by 1 player, they just go about their game and carry on. Perhaps if the sus keeps building from other players they'll react, but off 1 player? Not so much. Wolves on the other hand are often worried about being seen as sus

When she voted me I ignored and and went on. The she literally mentioned me a second time, and said "there's no momentum on this wagon" after like...10 minutes? Why would I not just ask why while I'm here posting?

Am I supposed to ignore it? The fuck kind of logic is that?

What exactly is your goal asking Alison why they find you suspicious? Do you seek to change their mind?


It also feels like your treating her slot as town suspecting you....why are you assuming she's town?

Yes? Why else would I be asking "Why am I sus?"

I don't townread her currently I'm trying to figure out why she's trying to get me out. Typically I can tell if my entrance or first couple posts are good or not.

Main example here.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost4982972

I was Mystery Player, I knew my posts sucked to start and when SPF voted me I agreed my posts sucked, and I knew that I'd be obvious town to SPF because I know that she's good.

This game I feel like my posts have been fine. So seeing votes on me has me questioning why the hell I'm being voted and people are trying to bring attention to me when I'm towny.

Also the other thing is that I'm trying to figure out how or why she's pushing me. Lately I've been tunneling town players for sus'ing me super early in games for no reason. So I don't want to make that same mistake here.

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:05 pm honey i will defend u with my life dw about being a ml

Also on the Honey Protection Squad.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:04 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:57 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:56 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:53 pm like alison will find it wolfy but to me it just comes across as like insecure

i wouldnt say insecure i'm literally just trying to joke and be playful but it's too srs here i think for that

Because people here are boring as hell apparently.

you're the one who keeps ending all your sentences with periods mr serious

That's just called good writing habits.

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:00 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:57 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:56 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:53 pm like alison will find it wolfy but to me it just comes across as like insecure

i wouldnt say insecure i'm literally just trying to joke and be playful but it's too srs here i think for that

Because people here are boring as hell apparently.

but after jack town im burned out on being serious and tryharding, it's not worth it..

but i also dont wanna be lhf/easy ml aaaa choices, choices..

It's understandable I overgamed myself and got exhausted from it.

Plus Jack Town was difficult as hell given that town just decided to self destruct.
Finally I'm only in 1 game.

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:58 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:56 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:56 pm [VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine is this how u vote..

What do you think of Mansnicks?

my first reaction is who?

idk i'd have to read i think i remember one post where they also were trying to frame me uncharitably; wait were they the one who called me a liar lmao

once again i am trying to resist omgusing but that also doesnt usually go well for me since the ones w bad arguments on me are like 50% mafia

It was the reaction to your N0 being the "WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!!" post which is total "wtf?" to me especially after like 3 others reacted to it. Felt over done.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:58 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:37 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:30 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:19 pm Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

so Alison is the one Falcon is trying to pocket there? Was Falcon vocally suspicious of Lime Coke before Alison started talking about Lime?

No. I noticed their post re: mansnicks "reaction is awkard & over the top" as a bit out of place, but it was their reaction to Alison's suspicion that really pinged me

Explain why? I've been told twice I look suspicious but no one wants to fucking talk about it.

IME, player's who are overly concerned about why they're seen as suspicious come from a wolf mindset, especially when it's the first mention of them being sus.


Most of the time town aren't that concerned about being seen as suspicious by 1 player, they just go about their game and carry on. Perhaps if the sus keeps building from other players they'll react, but off 1 player? Not so much. Wolves on the other hand are often worried about being seen as sus

When she voted me I ignored and and went on. The she literally mentioned me a second time, and said "there's no momentum on this wagon" after like...10 minutes? Why would I not just ask why while I'm here posting?

Am I supposed to ignore it? The fuck kind of logic is that?

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:56 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:53 pm like alison will find it wolfy but to me it just comes across as like insecure

i wouldnt say insecure i'm literally just trying to joke and be playful but it's too srs here i think for that

Because people here are boring as hell apparently.

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:56 pm [VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine is this how u vote..

What do you think of Mansnicks?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:53 pm like alison will find it wolfy but to me it just comes across as like insecure

I don't think it should be wolfy? She's relatively comfortable.

Plus she's got her town entitlement already which is a strong towntell for her.

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:50 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:50 pm mansnicks, Michelle, HK, falcon all town

honey is >rand scum but for #60, not for the N0 claim.

[VOTE: honey] aubergine

post in question

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:19 pm yeah dolby answer the question..

Spoiler: show

omg that was just a joke!! but maybe we can rxn test dolby if they dont read this first

Spoiler: show

gaming

what???

You're right that doesn't make sense.

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:40 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:23 pm

honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:03 pm anyways n0 i have dolby visiting garden gnome???

[VOTE: honey] aubergine
N0 doesn't exist, sorry about your rand

Hollow thinks i was actually serious i-

People don't know what obvious jokes are.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:30 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:19 pm Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

so Alison is the one Falcon is trying to pocket there? Was Falcon vocally suspicious of Lime Coke before Alison started talking about Lime?

No. I noticed their post re: mansnicks "reaction is awkard & over the top" as a bit out of place, but it was their reaction to Alison's suspicion that really pinged me

Explain why? I've been told twice I look suspicious but no one wants to fucking talk about it.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:49 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:44 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:43 pm Zero people picking up my Lime Coke suspicion strengthens my suspicion even more.

What's even suspicious about me?

What about my suspicion on Mansnicks?

Posts like this are suspicious

No it's not.

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:47 pm oh hi bluekang lol

Hi TH

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:48 pm so many banned MUers in this game

Got bored pretty quickly and decided to play here.

I thought I voted him?

[VOTE: mansnicks] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:43 pm Zero people picking up my Lime Coke suspicion strengthens my suspicion even more.

What's even suspicious about me?

What about my suspicion on Mansnicks?