The Syndicate

Like I missed the deadline since I was with family and didn't remember the deadline time, so thought I had a bit more but yeah.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:42 am Brad had a stupid tunnel D2 and refused to do anything afterwards. Don't go all "woe is me" about the Porscha wagon when you yourself said you weren't gonna do anything to stop it.

I literally told Porscha that I was gonna sheep her on a vote, or at least attempt to save her and vote.

Your reading comprehension is legit trash, dear lord.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:47 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:39 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:27 pm I think my main 3 townreads remain on Syn and Michelle at this point.

Simon prolly town since he's still trying.
I agree on Syn. I find Michelle somewhat inscrutable, maybe. Simon can also be Town.

So you're mad that I voted Porscha, huh? You don't have to just revenge vote me, man. That's lame. Instead, maybe we could start some form of towncore? I was in a towncore recently. Sort of. It was great!
Not a fan of it but your track record between SVS and her isn't great.

But I also am aware my track record is ass.

But yours counts.
Ah, S~V~S, I was wondering what other "town" I had gone after, from your earlier coment. But I don't know that she's Town, I assume that you don't either, and only believe it.

Yes believing since only 1 person has been dying per night so guessing those people dying at night are town.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:39 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:27 pm I think my main 3 townreads remain on Syn and Michelle at this point.

Simon prolly town since he's still trying.
I agree on Syn. I find Michelle somewhat inscrutable, maybe. Simon can also be Town.

So you're mad that I voted Porscha, huh? You don't have to just revenge vote me, man. That's lame. Instead, maybe we could start some form of towncore? I was in a towncore recently. Sort of. It was great!

Not a fan of it but your track record between SVS and her isn't great.

But I also am aware my track record is ass.

But yours counts.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:39 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:27 pm I think my main 3 townreads remain on Syn and Michelle at this point.

Simon prolly town since he's still trying.
I agree on Syn. I find Michelle somewhat inscrutable, maybe. Simon can also be Town.

So you're mad that I voted Porscha, huh? You don't have to just revenge vote me, man. That's lame. Instead, maybe we could start some form of towncore? I was in a towncore recently. Sort of. It was great!

I rolled with gangs once.

I rolled with gangs all the time.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:29 pm Otherwise....

Fuck all y'all.

Just kidding.

Not sure on y'all but yeah.

Otherwise....

Fuck all y'all.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:27 pm I think my main 3 townreads remain on Syn and Michelle at this point.

Simon prolly town since he's still trying.

And yes I had 3 because I had in my mind that I had 3...then I looked at the list again and realized it was only 2.

And then yeah relooked and Simon is here so hi.

I think my main 3 townreads remain on Syn and Michelle at this point.

Simon prolly town since he's still trying.

leetic wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:07 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:03 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:05 pm Anyway, Brad needs to be pressured more. I had a theory for why t!Brad might have been so tunneled on me that, suffice to say, was debunked by the flip
I said it a decent amount of times when I was tunneling on you, you were refusing to solve when I tried to get you to solve.
And you were doing nothing when I asked you to. That's not a towny reason for a tunnel.

I did a shit ton before we spoke.

You had done nothing up to that point.

Then you repeated the same stupid statements towards me that were massively wrong.

So yeah I tunneled you out.

Annnnnnd yeah I'm not exactly regretting it... like I'd do it again since you decided to be dumb about it.

leetic wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:05 pm Anyway, Brad needs to be pressured more. I had a theory for why t!Brad might have been so tunneled on me that, suffice to say, was debunked by the flip

I said it a decent amount of times when I was tunneling on you, you were refusing to solve when I tried to get you to solve.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 8:52 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 8:29 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 5:48 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 5:43 am @Porscha

Soooo yeah obviously you're seeing yourself being voted and there's a chance you go down.

I would love to save you, but I burned my "rally the troops" time yesterday. If I wanted to try to force things again I would need a strong scumread and for it to hit or else I just look like an even bigger jackass.

I'd again be glad to try to follow you and help you get someone voted out that you scumread. Idk if you really have one but even if it's a slight scumread it's more than what I've got.
possibly the worst post I've read of yours all game
Also...literally why?
it's extremely self-indulgent

I prolly would've voted Falcon to save Porscha if I was on which sucks because he fell off a cliff and we might not get much more.

Is there any chance we have town kill power?

I may support voting Long Con this upcoming day phase because this dude keeps trying to push town...and pushed one out successfully.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 5:48 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 5:43 am @Porscha

Soooo yeah obviously you're seeing yourself being voted and there's a chance you go down.

I would love to save you, but I burned my "rally the troops" time yesterday. If I wanted to try to force things again I would need a strong scumread and for it to hit or else I just look like an even bigger jackass.

I'd again be glad to try to follow you and help you get someone voted out that you scumread. Idk if you really have one but even if it's a slight scumread it's more than what I've got.
possibly the worst post I've read of yours all game

Also...literally why?

Bleh not happy with that either I would've voted Falcon to save.

Unfortunately also forgot what the end time was.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 3:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 5:43 am @Porscha

Soooo yeah obviously you're seeing yourself being voted and there's a chance you go down.

I would love to save you, but I burned my "rally the troops" time yesterday. If I wanted to try to force things again I would need a strong scumread and for it to hit or else I just look like an even bigger jackass.

I'd again be glad to try to follow you and help you get someone voted out that you scumread. Idk if you really have one but even if it's a slight scumread it's more than what I've got.
Brad I love you n all that but this means nothing to me and I don't really townread you lol

That's cool but you're not helping yourself with that.

Plus I might not have as much time as normal because I got family stuff tomorrow but I'll be able to check in.

@Porscha

Soooo yeah obviously you're seeing yourself being voted and there's a chance you go down.

I would love to save you, but I burned my "rally the troops" time yesterday. If I wanted to try to force things again I would need a strong scumread and for it to hit or else I just look like an even bigger jackass.

I'd again be glad to try to follow you and help you get someone voted out that you scumread. Idk if you really have one but even if it's a slight scumread it's more than what I've got.

Simon wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 9:56 pm Brad isn't exactly off the hook either, and there are a couple of reasons as to why.

The first reason lies within his behavior throughout the duration from day 2 to now. I've noticed that ever since the large debate between Brad and the recently resurrected leetic, Brad has had quite the temper since then. He may have also felt psychologically corned seeing as leetic was getting more people who trusted him. Ok some people trusted him and that includes myself, but others didn't. Brad on the other hand, only had a small amount of people who trusted him. (I even recall someone saying that said debate did nothing to move the game along after I said it was riveting, even though it started as the first piece of the puzzle that would lead up to how I was able to deduce this. But I'm getting off topic. Anyway, I suspect Brad is trying to use this temper in such a way to make others believe that he is being sincere. It's possible that he isn't holding much of any grudges anymore, but even so, this has not been overlooked.

The second reason is that he's been awfully quiet when it comes to accusations, especially when someone asks him a question or two. While it isn't illegal to dodge questions, I do believe it will make that person more suspicious the more it happens. I have read some replies of his that look like they were suggesting that he was shooting down different kinds of speculations from others. In other words, I haven't really seen him agree with anyone lately. And keep in mind, he hasn't really given much info lately either, so there is a bit of hypocrisy in this, but of course, I could be misremembering things, so please correct me if I am wrong about anything.

I feel like I've responded to most of the people bringing things up, and if I've ignored it, it's because they're usually repeated reasons like "Brad saying he isn't afraid of Wilgy enough to night kill him" which I addressed multiple times beforehand.

I don't think I've ignored reasoning otherwise.

And my behavior is me trying to pull back after going apeshit and making things uncomfortable.
And yes I've seen the "Brad suddenly became nice" read and I've addressed that I hate that read when I've explained I'm trying to stop and I hate when people read me off of that.

My aggression was exactly what it was...aggressively pushing at Leetic because he was refusing to do anything. Then I just pushed him over because I believed he was mafia because of that and got kinda annoyed at people going to me when this has been the most obvious town I've been specifically on this site since...probably since I came back from being banned.
And yeah my scumread was wrong so I'm also pulling back because I don't believe in taking an entire game over and leading multiple lynches after being wrong a few times.
I'm still however defending townreads that I have.

Don't really agree with voting out Porscha.

Oh I could prolly vote sig.

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:17 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:14 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:13 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:03 am Hello Roxy we haven't exactly spoken yet this game.

That's really it I was thinking of a question but can't think of one that isn't massively generic or would help either of us in the game.
I have quoted you and you have responded....did you want to hold hands and sing Let It Be then skip into the woods? jk But sounds fun, right/
Sure that sounds fun.
I would ask you to go for shots of tequila but that does mix well with Lime Coke. I think only vodka could work and that is not my jam.

Wonder if people can make reads lists?

Or is that too 2010?

Yeah I'm kinda the only one that did.

Like your mentioning the kids which...I'm kinda townreading two of them anyways.

Moto as I've said is the only one I've had concerns on but that's more meta related and I've only seen his mafia game.

But also I don't know where that leaves me since I don't feel right voting anyone else.

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:13 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:03 am Hello Roxy we haven't exactly spoken yet this game.

That's really it I was thinking of a question but can't think of one that isn't massively generic or would help either of us in the game.
I have quoted you and you have responded....did you want to hold hands and sing Let It Be then skip into the woods? jk But sounds fun, right/

Sure that sounds fun.

Hello Roxy we haven't exactly spoken yet this game.

That's really it I was thinking of a question but can't think of one that isn't massively generic or would help either of us in the game.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:00 am Brad you're being like. A little too bitchy and some of what you said yesterday has put me off

Like this kinda just feels like a decent... like...

If she was mafia trying to sus me or try to put me into the POE backhandedly... it wouldn't be with this?

Okay yeah actually read Porscha's iso I still don't see her wolfy.

Like there's maybe bits but that's just any sort of fluff post or like just goofy reaction to things but not massively scummy by any means.

Also feel like her read on me plus how she treated the Day 2 situation and the stuff after regarding me let's me think it's in good faith?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 4:20 am idk i dont feel like i've been obv town to deserve such a read brad lol

I mean part of it is just blind trust still?

Idk we came off of that 12/12 hour game and was feeling the energy of getting town in a game I was gonna give effort in after that annoying game/rand and obviously you were in that game as well so sorta vibe it that you were town with how you responded to me at the beginning of this game.

Also yeah that game only ended like 2 weeks ago but it feels like it ended two months ago.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

For now.

In terms of her gameplay...like it's kinda what I'm expecting from town!Porscha?

I'll have to re-look at her iso to make sure but I've been confident she's still town.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:18 pm @Lime Coke Seriously though, what is it with you and Porscha? The time for whimsical friendship is over, what's your real analysis of her stuff?

Uhhhh we're friends and I'm trying to team with her to try to eliminate wolves but we haven't had a successful time of this?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:50 pm @Lime Coke if you've been paying attention this whole time, how can your reads be the same? shouldn't leetic coming back to life and being confirmed town change something, anything for you?

I'm trying to figure that out myself but I end up doing this most games until I think something might be horrifically wrong.

Also...may or may not be seeing reasons to change or take someone off of towns.

Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:43 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:27 pm [VOTE: Motobot] aubergine

Here until I see anything else worth voting.

Otherwise I'm not doing much this day phase. I got my townreads list up so any questions go ahead and ping.
But why the accusation against Moto?

The one game he was scum in he just dropped votes and nothing else.

Relatively the same here.

You know with Vision being there I just wanted to say that I SEE that that certain player hasn't used their power yet.

The thing says "If Hydra is eliminated" so I don't think 3P kills yet until all mafs are gone?

[VOTE: Motobot] aubergine

Here until I see anything else worth voting.

Otherwise I'm not doing much this day phase. I got my townreads list up so any questions go ahead and ping.

Oh wow. Maybe he'll start solving during the normal parts of the day phase instead of only at EOD.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 1:32 am though I initially had worries about him for raisins... w hich is still possible but I also kinda doubt wolf brad powerwolves out leetic here so idk lol maybe he's just town though again, like, I didn't love that he hasn't seemed to question my alignment at all whatsoever, but idk maybe he really took my masonry suggestion quite seriously lol

This is kinda why. Like you haven't done anything sketchy as far as I'm reading and I'm fully trying to work this out together with you unfortunately my scumread went south.

I've been reading what you're saying and everything and trying to play around it. I just took initiative.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 1:27 am anyway um I thought brad had info and that was the reason for all of that but I see that was not the case so now um. idk. lol

It was meta and how he was playing throughout the day.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:52 pm Townread:
Porschaaaaaaa
Michelle
SVS
Roxy
Long Con
Falcon

Townlean:
Syn
Simon
Lorab

Please Come Back
Dunyaaaaa

Everyone Else:
Abigail Sophia
leetic
motobot
sig
TonyStarkPrime

This still hasn't changed.

Sorry but that annoys the hell out of me how that all panned out.

I'm done with it I'm moving on.

You avoid attempting to solve for 47 hours.

You proceed to attempt to start solving in the 48th hour.

Like dude...come the fuck on.

Fucking bleh

Porscha town, don't vote Porscha out.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 7:00 pm I think I have to sleep because my eyes don't want to cooperate anymore, if I stop posting, you know why.

Feeling good about my town read on Long Con

Yeah you're fine Michelle, thank you. <3

Townread:
Porschaaaaaaa
Michelle
SVS
Roxy
Long Con
Falcon

Townlean:
Syn
Simon
Lorab

Please Come Back
Dunyaaaaa

Everyone Else:
Abigail Sophia
leetic
motobot
sig
TonyStarkPrime

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:26 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:23 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:22 pm And I am not trying to buddy up or reinstate the LC Connection that I was forced to poop all over when I was bad.

I just don't see what people see in it.
Oh I'm all for the LC Connection and would love to work with you obviously the last game fucked with me but hell you're actually using your head.
You could reread the post I made with the individual orange-text responses. I bet you skimmed it. That was the start of the me and S~V~S thing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:02 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:40 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.
I can recall off the top of my head two games where Wilgy played the long game and played it hard and well, as YOUR bad teammate.
So what's your point here? If Wilgy is known to play the long game, then that jives with Lime Coke saying he wouldn't feel the need to instantly nightkill him. You capitalized YOUR like you have something to shove in Brad's face but what is it??

I find this post troubling tbh, and can’t think of a reason why you would say this as town.
Didn't I say something like "If I were a Wolf, I'd have let Wilgy stay alive until it was too suspicious!" Not those exact words, but I'm certain I conveyed the idea. Maybe the reason a Town would say something like this is that it might help find the mindset of a player that WOULD nk him? I think finding this post troubling for that reason is a little hollow.

I’ve never seen a player do aggressively (and successfully) defend a teammate as he did YOU in Cyberpunk.
Relevance to the point? I don't see how this really relates, but there's that accusational capitalization again.

Even though he wound up losing that was probably one of the single best Mafia performances I’ve ever seen.
But we're not talking about Mafia Wilgy here! So references to his magnificent abilities as a Wolf are not relevant! If you think Brad is a Wolf then references to times when Wilgy was left unchecked and demolished all the Wolves as Town would have been relevant.
It just feels like this post went a lot of places and conveyed a lot of accusational feelings without cementing a single point.

Just read through it, idk if I'm convinced that it's scummy for her since I can believe her based on the fact that she's pointing out the whole game I had with him as partners not too long ago?

Doesn't help convincing me since I've been townreading her since Day 1 after her first appearance doing things. Since I've been feeling like she's towny throughout the game.

Like I'm legit pulling the fuck back Day 3 if we get Leetic out, especially if he flips mafia.

I want this vote so bad though, you have no idea.

Like I'm trying to fucking tone it down I figured I was ruining the game by doing this but it's hard not to.

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