The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:11 pm thansk for the game, i had a ton of fun and think we all did

0 drama game, proud of us

Taking the W because I don't have many of those and I need a banner.

@Urist

Dueling Igno.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:05 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:50 am Then again I'm not sure what everyone's reads even are right now besides the votes.
That list is the towncore because they're the only people with reads.

Good call.

Then again I'm not sure what everyone's reads even are right now besides the votes.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:00 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:52 am If we can’t agree on one town today we’re screwed so

Me
dunia
Lime Coke
Mac

I dunno if there's a consensus towncore, but that's probably close to one minus maybe Lime Coke.

I can accept that as a towncore but not really sure if I can call it consensus?

Everyone's so all over the place.

I might be inclined to gladiate Igno here...anyone object?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:15 pm I feel like I should try to save Dunya.

Oh hey we should kill Jack.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:15 pm I feel like I should try to save Dunya.

Oh hey we should kill Jack.
[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

I'll follow.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:39 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:15 pm I feel like I should try to save Dunya.

Oh hey we should kill Jack.
Why do you feel that way?
Cuz she's been mac siding and sheeping me and it's a nice change of pace and I'd like to positively reinforce that behaviour
Well, when you put it like that, she sounds even more suspicious

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:39 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:39 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:19 pm Jack/Falcon/Igno

???
I'm town tho.

Trust me. It's for real
For real?
Really real.

Like super green
Would you say that you are in fact the towniest town that's ever towned?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:46 pm
ignoramus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:52 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:23 am dunya is lock scum
you're lock mafia!! :pewpew:
Igno is pretty much outed if Dunia flips mafia

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:46 pm [VOTE: igno] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:47 pm [VOTE: igno] aubergine
Dis all sketchy.

Maybe Igno mafia? Trying to make Mac and Falcon look bad for switching to Igno?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:39 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:32 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:38 pm @Seanzie why me?
Your post about Sloonei yesterday was... very bad IMO. I thought it was a joke because it almost had to be, but then you said it was real, and I can't see a townie thinking those things in the gamestate we were in.

Also, I thought about it for like 4 minutes, and you make total sense. Not rethinking it.
Seanzie just town.

Post #3 calling Seanzie town.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:14 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:24 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:57 pm what does everyone think of the seanzie claim he tried to kill me but hit NAA instead?

any ideas how that happened?
I mean…I kinda townread it wrt Seanzie.

He may not even be correct. Not sure what it says about you.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:34 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:01 pm Or it could actually just be WIFOM and he's literally telling the truth that he tried to have you killed, which means Dunya is spewed town.
No.

Seanzie never claims like the wolf kill or whatever.
Two posts calling Seanzie town, possibly to get on his good side having TMI on him?

Actually the first one might be chainsaw defense against Dunya which might spew Dunya town too?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:24 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:57 pm what does everyone think of the seanzie claim he tried to kill me but hit NAA instead?

any ideas how that happened?
I mean…I kinda townread it wrt Seanzie.

He may not even be correct. Not sure what it says about you.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:34 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:01 pm Or it could actually just be WIFOM and he's literally telling the truth that he tried to have you killed, which means Dunya is spewed town.
No.

Seanzie never claims like the wolf kill or whatever.

Two posts calling Seanzie town, possibly to get on his good side having TMI on him?

Jack gives a LOT of attention to Dunya throughout the game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:58 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:01 pm happy to follow mac on jack too.
Typical.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:10 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:01 pm happy to follow mac on jack too.
Lewd

Also for some reason the dude reacts to the same post twice after OVER 24 hours, kinda weird.

Who is Lincoln btw?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:04 am people are being insane

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:05 am this is not like good

Elaborate?

I might actually gladiate Igno based off of what I read from the Dunya reading Jack's posts. I'm going to read through his iso myself to see if there's anything she didn't hit on yet.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:06 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:37 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:18 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:16 pm I might have to look through a few isos when I get a moment to see what's going on I've been horrifically disengaged from this.
more like you haven't contributed a single on-topic thought till now. why's that?

sometimes we roll town together but most time we roll wolf against each other and gotta slay one another, y'know?

Because I was taking this as a non-serious game and felt awkward as fuck trying to actually solve the game instead of meme'ing the entire time.

I actually just listened to you because it seemed like you have something going here and I don't mind letting you have the wheel.

And yeah, I get that, but I'm thinking we're both just town and I'm going to actually work with you here.

Spoiler: show
Also I'm horrific as mafia. I would try to pocket you, but everyone I've tried to pocket has seen through that so you probably would catch me.

Both these posts set off warning bells. Gth not wolf theatre tho.
bad look for LC here tbh

How does this look bad for me btw?

I don't know who to gladiate.

Why is Marmot dueling Dunya?

I kind of want to come to my own decision on who to vote but blehhhh I'm feeling too fucking lazy.

Since Dunya wants Quin I'll go there for now and see what happens as the day goes on.

Marmot's probably town at this rate.

Still got Dunya as town.

Idk why Nanook is gladiating me but he's probably town and can do better than me so whatever with living or dying at this rate.

Game's been fun otherwise, it's nice to actually fuck around rather than going into rage mode throughout the game.
It just sucks that I can't get out of first gear in terms of actually being competitive.

I'll try to do more after I'm done with things that I have to do today. Just feeling rough regarding the game with solving.

I'm entirely disengaged from the game and any memory of it keeps vanishing.

There's very few reads I'm confident on, and I'm getting more and more out of it by the days this game goes by.

This probably sounds like shit coming from me but yeah, kinda understand why anyone would scumread me, I've barely been making my own decisions I've mostly been sheeping people and seeing where the wind takes me.

Also I'm failing miserably at sleeping currently.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:39 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:50 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:41 pm To the surprise of absolutely nobody, DrWilgy dead. He was faithful to Caesar.

So I was thinking last night, as I occasionally do, and I've decided that if all y'all wanna leave the game so badly, I'll give you the opportunity. You're a bunch of gladiators, it's time you act like it.
Id like to kill lime coke, in a gladiatorial manner
You don't have the potassium to take me down.

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:50 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:41 pm To the surprise of absolutely nobody, DrWilgy dead. He was faithful to Caesar.

So I was thinking last night, as I occasionally do, and I've decided that if all y'all wanna leave the game so badly, I'll give you the opportunity. You're a bunch of gladiators, it's time you act like it.
Id like to kill lime coke, in a gladiatorial manner

You don't have the potassium to take me down.

I got confused by the flip but the night death clarified it.

I actually thought Urist made this game all vanilla towns and we were just obliterating each other for his entertainment, thus the name of the game being "Bolessium."

I was dead wrong, however.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:49 pm While everyone is playing 4D chest-

I'm playing Texas Hold'em.

EBWOP

While everyone is playing 4D chess-

I'm playing Texas Hold'em.

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

Spoiler: show

Host accidentally TMI'd that Falcon is actually JaggedJimmyJay and placed him in the right spot on the board.

Falcon and Urist are W/W.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:22 pm According to our host, f comes after j in the alphabet.

But is he wrong?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:03 pm What's the case on Quin?

He scares me and I'm a fearless man.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:39 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:00 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:00 am By the way, let me put it this way, regardless of my alignment.

The towniest thing about Dunya is her treatment of ME.

Dunya knows she can pocket me pretty hard, since she's done it during Bank Robbery Mafia during the summer.

I'm literally hard defending Dunya, so her move as mafia would be to keep me alive and pocket the ever living hell out of me by being cute towards me while I vote off the rest of the game and she can easily sail into a win.

Instead she's saying that she's scumreading me, and is voting me. Trying to get rid of me when she's mafia is literally just suicide for her game.

That's a massive reason why she's town.

Am I wrong, though?
rule number 1: don't negotiate with mafia

Right.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:00 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:00 am By the way, let me put it this way, regardless of my alignment.

The towniest thing about Dunya is her treatment of ME.

Dunya knows she can pocket me pretty hard, since she's done it during Bank Robbery Mafia during the summer.

I'm literally hard defending Dunya, so her move as mafia would be to keep me alive and pocket the ever living hell out of me by being cute towards me while I vote off the rest of the game and she can easily sail into a win.

Instead she's saying that she's scumreading me, and is voting me. Trying to get rid of me when she's mafia is literally just suicide for her game.

That's a massive reason why she's town.

Am I wrong, though?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:14 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:13 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:15 am Like, I'm thinking Seanzie is town.

Jack I have as town.

Marmot I had as town but that 180 didn't do him any favors.

What is the issue with people changing their reads?
You changed without explaining and just as the Dunya wagon started piling up.
marmot is town.

*Sits there with shock collar back on.*

I am now voting Igno.

Deal with it.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:13 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:15 am Like, I'm thinking Seanzie is town.

Jack I have as town.

Marmot I had as town but that 180 didn't do him any favors.

What is the issue with people changing their reads?

You changed without explaining and just as the Dunya wagon started piling up.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:21 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:18 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:15 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:12 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:08 am i read jack's posts and don;t understand what marmot was talking about here:

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:06 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:45 am y'all aren't rly gonna chop Dunya here right? it's just an illusion?

Jack just spent like a whole page talking about it, since you asked.

why is jack voting me is not at all clear????? why marmot switched me from light town to voting me also unclear???????????
Yeah I've mentioned that and it kinda pulled me off of townreading Marmot.
no, i've finished catchup. i don't really care if i die because this game is dunya mischop waiting to happen from d1 so better get me out of the way now than later cos it's always gonna happen when things like this slow roll.

it'll be a good convo to have post game on etiquette of explaining why you're voting for someone tho ;p
Welcome to my world where whenever people scumread me and they never explain it fully either.

I'm still believing you flip town I just have no idea where to go.
ok LC, you've pocketed me. welcome back to my town core.

dunya basics - defend me enough and eventually i'll love you and town core you.

You'll never hate me in a game.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:17 am drwilgy came into d2 with a limerick agenda and my thought is he found out in scum chat that people who listened to the emperor yesterday (those 5 names) became immune to kills. so he came in like FUCK YEA i'ma limerick the shit out of this thread.

thats my very basic take on why my rando vote is on wilgy atm.

@DrWilgy whhy are you voting for me?

He's voting Quin now.

I don't think he stated it in the thread though.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:15 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:12 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:08 am i read jack's posts and don;t understand what marmot was talking about here:

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:06 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:45 am y'all aren't rly gonna chop Dunya here right? it's just an illusion?

Jack just spent like a whole page talking about it, since you asked.

why is jack voting me is not at all clear????? why marmot switched me from light town to voting me also unclear???????????
Yeah I've mentioned that and it kinda pulled me off of townreading Marmot.
no, i've finished catchup. i don't really care if i die because this game is dunya mischop waiting to happen from d1 so better get me out of the way now than later cos it's always gonna happen when things like this slow roll.

it'll be a good convo to have post game on etiquette of explaining why you're voting for someone tho ;p

Welcome to my world where whenever people scumread me and they never explain it fully either.

I'm still believing you flip town I just have no idea where to go.

Like, I'm thinking Seanzie is town.

Jack I have as town.

Marmot I had as town but that 180 didn't do him any favors.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:13 am but also some of yall really shady and are voting me based on WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

how can i defend myself when i dont know why the fuck i'm being voted? lol

I know, that's the problem there's at least 1 mafia on you but I have no fucking clue who it is.

I think you're catching up actually I'll give you some space, sorry.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:08 am i read jack's posts and don;t understand what marmot was talking about here:

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:06 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:45 am y'all aren't rly gonna chop Dunya here right? it's just an illusion?

Jack just spent like a whole page talking about it, since you asked.

why is jack voting me is not at all clear????? why marmot switched me from light town to voting me also unclear???????????

Yeah I've mentioned that and it kinda pulled me off of townreading Marmot.

Is Urist pulling a SamP4Palmer?

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:15 am Okay well Marmot actually won best scum on here so he's a good wolf.

Ah...gotcha.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:07 am @Lime Coke why do you have Marmot as town?

...ya know that's a good question because I had him town based off of this post-

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:27 pm So here's the thing. Dunya is cute, we can all agree on that. So cute that she often skates by with her charming demeanor, and excellent knack at deflecting attention in all the right places. This is what scum dunya looks like. Town dunya is also fantastic, directing attention in all the right places, at the scummies, away from the townies. She's probably the best mafia player in the world, and a run in the Championship Tourney would reveal that pretty quickly. And she's cute, she's a cute mafia player.

What I'm seeing here is that particular cuteness that seeks to direct a very specific kind of attention onto Lime Coke. One that calls him out, but also gives him the chance to talk himself beyond the thing she called him out for. It's banter, but of the assisting variety. I see right through it though. Dunya may be acute mafia player, but she's exactly that, just a little under 90°. If she was a little more obtuse, her behavior would be a little less suspect, but the way things stand, something just isn't right, a few degrees shy of right, if you will.

That's my angleshoot read of the game

Because it was kind of an elaborate read that I don't think a mafia member- unless they were a really good wolf- would be making.
I don't know Marmot's strength as a town/wolf since I've never played with him before.
But mostly that was my reasoning plus the usual "tone/vibes" I was getting from him throughout the game.

The one thing I don't like when I iso'd him is that he actually does have Dunya as "Light town" then proceeds to 180 his read on her out of nowhere and voted her.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:59 am @Lime Coke what is your POE here?

Well first of all who I think is probably town:
Dunya
Marmot
Mac
Jack
Seanzie
Nanook (Sheeping Dunya on this)

Poison who TF knows but her flaking is probably rand>town.

Which leaves-
Dr.Wilgy
Igno
Falcon
Quin
TSP

To be sorted out/My POE.

By the way, let me put it this way, regardless of my alignment.

The towniest thing about Dunya is her treatment of ME.

Dunya knows she can pocket me pretty hard, since she's done it during Bank Robbery Mafia during the summer.

I'm literally hard defending Dunya, so her move as mafia would be to keep me alive and pocket the ever living hell out of me by being cute towards me while I vote off the rest of the game and she can easily sail into a win.

Instead she's saying that she's scumreading me, and is voting me. Trying to get rid of me when she's mafia is literally just suicide for her game.

That's a massive reason why she's town.

ignoramus wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:34 am
ignoramus wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:21 am you don't like my cool avatar? ouch
Sometimes there are things I'm better off never seeing all my life and that is one of them
I like you, though!! You're cool
but boobs, jesus and america... what more do we need in life?
Less Jesus, more Satan and we good :evil:
Also a bit less of boobs but that's just me

Anyway! I'm back from going absolutely :WUT: at the multi-ISO of Jack, Quin, and Lime
And if they are partnered maybe their strategy was to agree with each other but only in trivial matters so as not to be too close connected?
Otherwise I'm kinda unsure about it
I'll give my analysis thingamajig in a spoiler
Spoiler: show
LC's 7th and 8th post is a response to Quin
Memey and stuff but it's D1 so
If LC mafia Dunya town
Whichever number the response to Quin's Gordan Romsee meme is is also pretty memey
Probably also D1 though
If not (iPad isn't showing me so idk) then more :sus:
There was one today (UTC+8) which was a response to Mac's "save Dunya, kill Jack" post which was just a [vote: Jack]
Probably less likely to be partnered - maybe Mac/LC?
The Marmot post talking about "Quin/LC w/w because all LC's posts towards Quin are jokes" has LC's response of "sad thing is I don't remember this at all." With a type of emoji next to it
GTH a contradiction in tone is feeling wolfy but I skimmed his other posts and he also uses a period at the end of his sentences so I'm not confident about this
Quin's "that's a compliment, I think" was supported by LC but that's pretty much it
Is LC the type of guy to actually reveal his partner but because it feels so jokey people ignore it? (referring to the "bussing my partner to save Dunya")
Jack's vote on Quin D1 is an "I missed you vote"
Mayyyyyyybe soft-clear non w/w because if they were in wolf-chat together this post won't be so Out There? But stuff like this is easy to fake so
Jack supports Quin's claim that "Dunya town because she hasn't posted to page 20 yet"
If these three are w/w/w maybe their strategy is to try to agree with each other as much as possible?
Possible more likely Quin/Jack no w/w because of the "did anyone say wtf this was about?" post
Maybe reaching but probably would've asked Quin in wolf-chat if they were together
Agrees with LC also as response to LC's "are we serious business now?" post
Asks LC and Quin who the wolves are then shortly says that the LC/Quin/Jack team forfeits
Shading LC and Quin with "y'all are exactly as helpful as Dunya" feels no w/w for Jack and LC/Quin but I may be reaching
"Like, I didn't notice anything about Lime/Quin looking particularly w/w" is an idk from me tbh
Could go either way, but he's kinda just. There
Although I'm also the same so I can't say much

Wait when have I ever agreed with either of them?

I'm disagreeing entirely on their Dunya read.

And I have no idea what the rest of their reads are I just have my own stuff.

Inb4 both of them are actually W/W.

Fuck it tho.

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