The Syndicate

Damn, I thought that Scotty had a good chance barring him bussing me in that.

Happy with how that ended though.

GGs

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:02 pm Idk how your argument makes sense.

Yours haven't either.

"Mafia is defending him this page."

Okay who is defending me? Seeing that my wagon only got more votes since you keep saying that.

You've also switched between "he doesn't care" to "he does care" so are you actually doing something or what?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:01 pm But like someone poke holes in my argument. It’s a win win

There's numerous holes in NAA's arguments, which have been contradictory as well.
No one else is noticing that though.

I'm confused because I'm seeing "LC is being defended" but who is defending me here?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:32 pm even LC doesn't care, which is like either super town or jester, and like I said, either way we should not kill him.

Not many care which is why I'm being shrug yeeted while not many are doing anything.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:08 pm Lots of pressure today to save Lime Coke

Probably mafia.

Who is trying to save me in this instance?

Feel like you just throw these phrases out there and hope for the best.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:10 pm it's like I make posts in response to questions and then they're not read

Fun isn't it?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:43 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:31 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:25 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:06 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:04 pm [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

hey...

'Sup?

You're not allowed to do that.

Oh? I must've misread the rules...



Then again, you know what they say...rules are made to be broken

it's still illegal.
you should stop.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:25 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:06 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:04 pm [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

hey...

'Sup?

You're not allowed to do that.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:04 pm [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

hey...

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:45 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:43 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:24 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:33 pm Lime Coke obvi mafia.

I was thinking about LC a lot last night and I can’t actually remember anything he said yesterday, so I went back and looked. He seemed to town read more than suspect, and then his exchange with you was like a maraca during the Moonlight Sonata. Like it was half-formed and stilted, and he didn’t really mean what he was saying.

NAA is sure LC is mafia, but I’m more in the camp that he’s up there with Marmot as a top suspect for jester. My perception is similar in that I don’t think he really seems to care about who is lynched,
And that might be intentional.

I mean...my exchange with NAA isn't really anything to look at, since I've literally done it every game and stand by my statements.

Sheeping NAA isn't a good option, case and point his read on me.

Is there anything based on my content that you want to ask about?

That’s the thing- I just get the impression that you were just cheesing around in the breeze at the end of the day. Did you even end your vote on anyone?

I really wasn't if you looked at what I was doing. I was asking around who they thought was town among the top wagons. I was judging whether or not to either keep my two townreads alive and vote Nanook or realize that I was wrong on Dolby and vote him out instead.

Massive problem was that the day ended at such a random time (4:42 PM?) and I was still trying to judge who I was voting.
The vote was gonna happen, but it didn't because of mistiming.

lol

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:54 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:38 pm Also lol how does losing your 2 wolf reads spew you jester?

i said it spews me not jester

What spews you jester?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:24 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:33 pm Lime Coke obvi mafia.

I was thinking about LC a lot last night and I can’t actually remember anything he said yesterday, so I went back and looked. He seemed to town read more than suspect, and then his exchange with you was like a maraca during the Moonlight Sonata. Like it was half-formed and stilted, and he didn’t really mean what he was saying.

NAA is sure LC is mafia, but I’m more in the camp that he’s up there with Marmot as a top suspect for jester. My perception is similar in that I don’t think he really seems to care about who is lynched,
And that might be intentional.

I mean...my exchange with NAA isn't really anything to look at, since I've literally done it every game and stand by my statements.

Sheeping NAA isn't a good option, case and point his read on me.

Is there anything based on my content that you want to ask about?

There's a slight concern to me that you're a wolf and you just know how to play it off, since I've been snowed by you before in a few games.

But going off the basis of "His posting doesn't concern me, he must be a wolf" is an awful idea to me.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:02 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:00 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:54 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:42 pm I'm assuming wolves think/thought LP would be a safe kill b/c doctor would be on nanook b/c wolves dunno if he's fake claiming cop or not.
Would nanook be the kind of wolf to fake claim cop and then drop a naked vote on someone at sod without posting in the thread in an attempt to paint his target as a check?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:53 pm Nook is currently voting HK without explanation.

Spicy, I like it

comments on my thoughts?

I agree- I think the kill looks like a doc dodge. I don’t remember anyone actively townreading Lp.

What I don’t like is falcon suggesting it was to frame anyone

My thoughts immediately were "I'm being framed"

I think there's a way that you're going about it, and Falcon's going about it that's different though.

You haven't shown any urgency or any concern about it until now when it's brought up.

Falcon just brought it up pretty quickly.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:43 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:38 pm LP was incredibly suspect of me, dolby, falcon. One of those is dead town

What if Maf took out LP to frame her suspects!

Doesn't really look good when you say it yourself.

Annoying again because I had Dolby as town initially and wavered because others are saying he looks scummy, and he flips town. Second game in a row that's happened.

What do we make of it?

Poll ends at 4:42...

Fuck them Dragons.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:40 pm though if I were a wolf probably I don't show up for this b/c why bother when town does my job for me.
obvs HK is lock clear

I was going to say that you're a wagon and town would be jobbing you out but...

You're not self pressing so I'm not sure what to think?

Site decided to shit itself randomly for me.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:39 pm Any participation in the thread is voluntary. None of us have to be here.

.....wait really?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:33 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:31 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:29 pm if he's a wolf he's relying on jester paranoia to live. if he's the jester he's counting on me wolf reading his lack of anything townie to get chopped.

I guess you answered my question already, whoops.

to be more specific though he's focused on the mechanics without engaging really in any kind of alignment speculation or hunting. he hasn't, as far as I've seen, even really found some people to call town and talk about why they're town. He exists in a way that town dolby almost never exists.

I just iso'd him, you're kinda right. I thought his 3 reads were decent but they weren't really anything that was solid for alignments.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:28 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:26 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:25 pm Lime Coke is actually just mafia, he doesn't seem to care about the game whatsoever.

Typical.

Name one time where I omgused you for BMing me, you've been rude every single game we've ever played, and have deliberately gone out of your way to insult me, I have not once omgused you.

Now you're disingenuous, dismissing the read as typical when it's entirely a-typical.

No, it's typical that the read is wrong, nothing to do with you OMGUS'ing me or anything.

I don't even wolf read you, I don't actually out reads on you in general since it's not worth bothering with.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:29 pm if he's a wolf he's relying on jester paranoia to live. if he's the jester he's counting on me wolf reading his lack of anything townie to get chopped.

I guess you answered my question already, whoops.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:28 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:26 pm @hollowkatt

What's the read on Dolby currently from you?

anti-town

Why?

@hollowkatt

What's the read on Dolby currently from you?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:25 pm Lime Coke is actually just mafia, he doesn't seem to care about the game whatsoever.

Typical.

Hm...I townread two of these wagons.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:42 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:14 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:58 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:52 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:44 pm This reads like NAA believes in what they are saying.

Oh no...that's not something you wanna hear.

why's that

Many town games are a loss whenever NAA is both town and confident in a read.

Cmon dude, not cool

Also uh

You can see the irony here yeah?

No idea what you're talking about.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:58 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:52 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:44 pm This reads like NAA believes in what they are saying.

Oh no...that's not something you wanna hear.

why's that

Many town games are a loss whenever NAA is both town and confident in a read.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:44 pm This reads like NAA believes in what they are saying.

Oh no...that's not something you wanna hear.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:17 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:33 pm This is like the second Day 1 in a row where nothing has happened.

Tbf, this game is a 10player game with a post cap of 60. We're 1/3 of the way as a thread to that collective cap

The highest is 38 which is only about half? Like I get not hyper posting but I feel like there's just nothing happening at all.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:18 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:32 pm Why are games so dead on this site?

Some are playing more than others, it's the nature of the beast.



Do you feel you're contributing a lot to this game? Talk to me about your solve (including your feelings on my slot)




Plz & thx

I contributed a small amount this game at the start but it's been so slow for the second game in a row that I just disengaged myself with the game in hopes that a decent amount of posts pop up and I can get confident enough reads on people. It's been disappointing since.

In terms of my solve, HK, Scotty, Dolby, and LP have been my townleans at the start and most of that is just vibes.

And in terms of you I'm finding you to be scummy based on just how you're viewing aspects of the game and how you're answering questions directed to you.

This is like the second Day 1 in a row where nothing has happened.

Why are games so dead on this site?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:30 pm I think falcon is a good chance at being jester with how he’s approached the game thus far

LC why you there

I don't get his post talking about me and LP having a wolf in us with a discussion that was about the same as the conversations that happened a few times already in the game.







Plus his answer to my initial question felt like he was trying to compensate for the lack of an answer by voting/talking about someone else entirely different.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:26 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:14 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:09 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:08 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:05 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:56 am I mean it's fair. I see why you town read them. I just think it's a little too focused on one thing.
And from the way I see it Jester is more a threat to Mafia since they want the Jester alive for protection from Cop, but not lynched because they lose.
They also just happen to be in the best position to actually know if someone is a Jester or not, so I'm thinking a focus on the Jester seems a bit more likely to come from Mafia.

Depends on how people play as 3P. I've seen players try to townside or just fuck around and be a circus act.
Also feels like it could suck for town, because like you're pointing out now, it's a distraction as well. The jester gets the attention, mafia could choose to either hide in the background or partake to blend in.
Literally just a chaotic role.

I feel like one of you is Maf, tho I'm unsure who atm

What makes you think this?

The way you both interact...it just feels...off?



Anyways,

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

He's prolly Godfather

But why one in that case?
I think we've had a total of maybe 3 posts directed at each other combined.
And if it's off I'd be more incline to think SvS than SvT since it's hard to have a conversation that feels off but not realyl directed at anyone in particular with it being TvS.

I just don't get how there's a difference between this and-

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:48 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:45 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:21 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:13 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:05 pm Or I guess put another way, if I were mafia I’d want the coo around to help assure the jester is found for mutually assured protection

Don't mafia lose if jester is found and misyeeted?

Yes, but like identifying the jester should still be a priority for mafia too. If the cop red checks the jester, mafia can sit back and do damage control for a time and the impetus is on the group as a whole to take a shot on lynching that red check or not. And mafia can just NK the jester on their own time.

the problem with a red check in this game is that you can't actually risk chopping the red check unless you're incredibly sure it's the goon and not the jester. So a red check here basically is: we now have to determine if this is a wolf or the jester, and if that determination can't be made then the check might as well not exist OTHER than it allows us to "freeze" said player out of the game. which I guess might be good?

Correct. So either the cop withholds their red checks until they get 2 or they only reveal green checks? Though even then The Godfather is part of the that so it’s not clearing.

Hence, I think the cop is more scum sided in this setup

kinda yeah.

This ☝

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:08 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:05 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:56 am I mean it's fair. I see why you town read them. I just think it's a little too focused on one thing.
And from the way I see it Jester is more a threat to Mafia since they want the Jester alive for protection from Cop, but not lynched because they lose.
They also just happen to be in the best position to actually know if someone is a Jester or not, so I'm thinking a focus on the Jester seems a bit more likely to come from Mafia.

Depends on how people play as 3P. I've seen players try to townside or just fuck around and be a circus act.
Also feels like it could suck for town, because like you're pointing out now, it's a distraction as well. The jester gets the attention, mafia could choose to either hide in the background or partake to blend in.
Literally just a chaotic role.

I feel like one of you is Maf, tho I'm unsure who atm

What makes you think this?

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:56 am I mean it's fair. I see why you town read them. I just think it's a little too focused on one thing.
And from the way I see it Jester is more a threat to Mafia since they want the Jester alive for protection from Cop, but not lynched because they lose.
They also just happen to be in the best position to actually know if someone is a Jester or not, so I'm thinking a focus on the Jester seems a bit more likely to come from Mafia.

Depends on how people play as 3P. I've seen players try to townside or just fuck around and be a circus act.
Also feels like it could suck for town, because like you're pointing out now, it's a distraction as well. The jester gets the attention, mafia could choose to either hide in the background or partake to blend in.
Literally just a chaotic role.

I...see what you're talking about actually in terms of Dolby's reads being jester focused. I might've jumped the gun on townreading him there but I'll see how he responds.

I do think cop should out after GF dies if there's a red check if the doctor is still alive so that they can at least get future checks now that you're mentioning that as well.

Why is it dead again?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:12 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:09 pm Funny story that the last MafiaCafe game that happened was a jester setup. One mafia got flipped and I towncleared someone based off the flipped mafia member's spew. Turned out it was the jester and I made them unyeetable based on that and they got frustrated by it.

If I manage to townclear the jester again after a wolf flip, there will be more laughter to come.

I'm so god danm mad about that game!
I was playing the perfect chaos D1, managed to guess right on a wolf, lead their wagon for a while, said kill them tomorrow, then the fucking wolves night killed me. MY BODY WAS READY FOR THAT ROLE AND I WAS DENIED.

Your legacy ended up flipping a wolf too!

Funny story that the last MafiaCafe game that happened was a jester setup. One mafia got flipped and I towncleared someone based off the flipped mafia member's spew. Turned out it was the jester and I made them unyeetable based on that and they got frustrated by it.

If I manage to townclear the jester again after a wolf flip, there will be more laughter to come.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:48 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:45 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:21 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:13 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:05 pm Or I guess put another way, if I were mafia I’d want the coo around to help assure the jester is found for mutually assured protection

Don't mafia lose if jester is found and misyeeted?

Yes, but like identifying the jester should still be a priority for mafia too. If the cop red checks the jester, mafia can sit back and do damage control for a time and the impetus is on the group as a whole to take a shot on lynching that red check or not. And mafia can just NK the jester on their own time.

the problem with a red check in this game is that you can't actually risk chopping the red check unless you're incredibly sure it's the goon and not the jester. So a red check here basically is: we now have to determine if this is a wolf or the jester, and if that determination can't be made then the check might as well not exist OTHER than it allows us to "freeze" said player out of the game. which I guess might be good?

Correct. So either the cop withholds their red checks until they get 2 or they only reveal green checks? Though even then The Godfather is part of the that so it’s not clearing.

Hence, I think the cop is more scum sided in this setup

kinda yeah.

I also like this convo between HK and Scotty while they talk about the mechanics of the game.
Trying to figure out how the jester with the cop around impacts the game and how mafia are going to need to play around it since Jester can win by themselves.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:50 pm LP's entrance seems most stilted but that doesn't mean anything at this point

naa unironically not a jester imo, idk skimming P#17 seems to on the nose for jester kinda

marmot following HK's 24 with 25, kinda scummy but maybe in a jestery way

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:16 pm After mafia goon dies, cop should act like a named towny unless the jester is being yeeted

After The Godfather dies, idk

After the jester dies, cop should act like a cop

So far Dolby's posting seem like the towniest in regard to getting right into snap reads at the start of the game. I agree with HK's sentiment that it feels like town enthusiasm.

Plus the PR talk feels like it has some high town intentions.

Alright now that the other game is finished and I picked up my first win in my come back.

Time to reset and work for the second W in a row.

Not a jester claim, it's a signal that I'm probably going to suck this game.

Entering the game like...