The Syndicate

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:59 pm Legacy:

Transcend Esooa and Alison are town.

Legacy townreads: 2 mafia, 1 actual town.

Not my best outing read wise entirely.

Oh well. GG everyone.

Legacy:

Transcend Esooa and Alison are town.

Do I hammer?

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:52 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:52 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:51 pm Who unvoted Made just now?
falcon maybe?
rondo mcdondo

Gotcha. Would look good if HK flips mafia here.

Who unvoted Made just now?

Like I said Made is actually fighting currently. I feel good about him currently so that's why I'm going HK.

Epi and Falcon are posting so they can break the tie.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:46 pm why is getting you people to vote HK like pulling teeth

Ask and you shall receive.

Made is here now though and doesn't feel like he's in anti spew mode. I might go HK if that's the other option.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:40 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:39 pm guaranteeing Made's flip over HK by running up a dead flash wagon on Falcon

how interesting
What's interesting is that there were plenty of people a couple of days ago yelling at me about how bad Falcon is.

Where are these voices now?

Listening to the players that I know are better than me.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:40 pm yes, I'm definitely shielding falcon this day. Not forever though but I'd be pretty sad if he died

Do you still prefer HK goes over?

Made wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:36 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:35 pm @RondoDimBuckle

I moved to HK because I accepted Syn's pointing of wanting HK/Made competing wagons.

I don't know what to think right now. I'm here for the rest of EOD though if anyone has recommendations.
thoughts on Falcon?

I have my suspicions but Transcend townreads him based on the game and Esooa townreads him based on meta. So I'm willing to accept that he might be town and I'm wrong.

I can't iso on phone.

Transcend
Esooa
Alison
Sean
Ender
Syn

These are the names I DON'T want dusted off currently.

@RondoDimBuckle

I moved to HK because I accepted Syn's pointing of wanting HK/Made competing wagons.

I don't know what to think right now. I'm here for the rest of EOD though if anyone has recommendations.

Made wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:32 pm I don't that LC's vote is currently on No vote.
@Lime Coke is it because of hammer or something?

Was voting HK, then Rondo voted HK and made him top wagon, then I pulled back and selected no vote.

Going on the road I'll be back before day ends.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:10 pm Hard serve from the offhand and now it's whizzing back to the forehand side and a beautiful baseline play there!

(Vote changes!
Rondo voted Made > Ender > HK
HK voted Made > Unvote
LC voted HK > Unvote)

I'm keeping a running tally to see what I can make of it later.

Rondo voted HK then I unvoted HK after.

I gotta get ready and drive to work. I'll be back about 30 minutes before deadline.

TBH HK's wagon didn't really "Take off" it was at 4 for a good while. Made's wagon just shifted to someone else and HK's wagon stayed put.

Rondo voted HK, I'm taking my vote off for now.

This sucks because I don't have an outstanding wolfread, I just have my townreads and that's it.

Esooa stated it was a reaction test from what I remember. Good enough explanation on it imo.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:25 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:15 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:54 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:57 am Town
Falcon45ca
Lime coke
Syn
Transcend

Towny
Seanzie
Kami
Enderwiggin
Alison

PoE
Epignosis
Fingersplints
Hollowkatt
Made
Notanaxehole
Rondodimbuckle

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:50 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:49 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:48 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:47 am Bullshit that post was terrible and not towny at all, take a nap or something
What alignment do you think I am?
Why are you changing the topic?
What alignment do you think I am?
I am interested in why the sudden aggression on Kami who previously read as a soft safe read and now you believe is so hard corrupt that you are willing to vote? If we are to follow your reads you believe seven people are against us. Made, Not, Myself, HollowKatt, Fingersplints, Epignosis. The odds that you have misread the situation are high when there are only four of us we need to keep an eye out for? Assume of course we ommit the fact that you could be one of them as well. Bringing us up to eight.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:13 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:11 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:10 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:09 am
That's not what happened though, I never said anything like that to hollowkatt lmao
I was saying he was talking about you scumsiding with your reads. Nothing about what you said about him.
you said I said "You never read me right" when I never discussed his ability to read me what so ever.
So why are you making things up?
That also was referencing what HallowKat was saying in response to Syn voting him, not you. That read is 100% talking about what HK was doing.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:22 am I'll make HK competing wagon for now.

If I get off any time soon just know that I'll HOPEFULLY be on before deadline. At the least I'll be on about 1:30 eastern time ((30 minutes before deadline)) which will be tough because I will miss whatever happens between when I leave and basically when EOD is occurring.

I would also like a clarification on the above. Are you saying you believe Hollowkat is giving off a soft safe tell then later deciding to jump on the wagon when you have made it clear you trust Made or Kami less? Not forgetting that you said at one point someone between Falcon45ca and Made has to be a traitor? Or have you since changed your stance on that?

Going from what I have been reading Essoa should be voting Epignosis, Fingersplints, Hollowkatt, Made, Notanaxehole or Myself and Lime Coke should be voting Kami or Made. However I could have misread the situation I await clarification. All the best, love and kisses, Rondo
@RondoDimBuckle are you asking me this and could you be a bit clearer on the question?
From my reading of your history it looks like you call Hollow Kat as soft town then now you are voting them to lynch. Did I read what you were saying wrong or did you change your position? If the latter why? - Rondo

Oh for the "Policy voting someone who can scumside with reads as town" stuff. It's there, yeah, could still be used as an excuse to vote someone as scum.
Besides that I don't have reasons to townread HK.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:40 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:36 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:35 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:32 am Also you still twisted the events to defend him, why would you purposefully twist what happened to fit your narrative of hk town?
I did not twist any events.
You did though, HK was called out for being UTR before the argument, which means the push was valid.
Syn said: HK is UTR.
HK engages in an argument with you.
I say: HK is not UTR, he just engaged in an argument with you. I don't see a reason to exe HK.

How is that twisting events? HK is no longer hiding UTR, he's out and arguing with people.

I don't remember HK ever being a UTR. I just thought he existed until Syn and Transcend (?) mentioned him being scummy in the middle of yesterday.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:54 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:57 am Town
Falcon45ca
Lime coke
Syn
Transcend

Towny
Seanzie
Kami
Enderwiggin
Alison

PoE
Epignosis
Fingersplints
Hollowkatt
Made
Notanaxehole
Rondodimbuckle

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:50 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:49 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:48 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:47 am Bullshit that post was terrible and not towny at all, take a nap or something
What alignment do you think I am?
Why are you changing the topic?
What alignment do you think I am?
I am interested in why the sudden aggression on Kami who previously read as a soft safe read and now you believe is so hard corrupt that you are willing to vote? If we are to follow your reads you believe seven people are against us. Made, Not, Myself, HollowKatt, Fingersplints, Epignosis. The odds that you have misread the situation are high when there are only four of us we need to keep an eye out for? Assume of course we ommit the fact that you could be one of them as well. Bringing us up to eight.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:13 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:11 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:10 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:09 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:16 pm Okay so I reread what happened from when I was at work....

Nothing much really changes...

Town:
Transcend
Alison
Syn
Sean
Esooa

Falcon has actually reappeared and posted decently enough. Made appeared and did a little bit of nothing from what I recall?

No idea what to call HallowKat right now. His thing of "policy yeeting" Kami for having apparent scum sided reads, or a past game where she's wolf sided is what's referenced, is something that I see myself doing as town. However these things never actually go through for what I recall since, again, I've done relatively the exact same thing.
The responses to being scumread and voted aren't really much. It's the same typical "You never read me right" response which I have no idea how to interpret alignment wise because I forget this shit happened once the game is over.

Everyone else I still need to get a hold of in terms of reading them.
That's not what happened though, I never said anything like that to hollowkatt lmao
I was saying he was talking about you scumsiding with your reads. Nothing about what you said about him.
you said I said "You never read me right" when I never discussed his ability to read me what so ever.
So why are you making things up?
That also was referencing what HallowKat was saying in response to Syn voting him, not you. That read is 100% talking about what HK was doing.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:22 am I'll make HK competing wagon for now.

If I get off any time soon just know that I'll HOPEFULLY be on before deadline. At the least I'll be on about 1:30 eastern time ((30 minutes before deadline)) which will be tough because I will miss whatever happens between when I leave and basically when EOD is occurring.
I would also like a clarification on the above. Are you saying you believe Hollowkat is giving off a soft safe tell then later deciding to jump on the wagon when you have made it clear you trust Made or Kami less? Not forgetting that you said at one point someone between Falcon45ca and Made has to be a traitor? Or have you since changed your stance on that?

Going from what I have been reading Essoa should be voting Epignosis, Fingersplints, Hollowkatt, Made, Notanaxehole or Myself and Lime Coke should be voting Kami or Made. However I could have misread the situation I await clarification. All the best, love and kisses, Rondo

@RondoDimBuckle are you asking me this and could you be a bit clearer on the question?

I'm going to bed. I'll try to be on, like I said I doubt I'm on until like 30 minutes to deadline. Hopefully nothing crazy happens.

Night everyone!

Oh the list is how many people have looked at the person positively or negatively. Okay then.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:35 am anyway yeah D1 and having such strong shared reads between 4 (lol) people makes me itch

We are all one.

I mean you wouldn't mind at least 1 of the players in the POE be a PR. Box wolves in more.

My mind is hazy right now but I don't remember why I voted Kami. I think it was because of the Transcend argument they both had?

I know my only other votes were on Falcon and Made. Falcon was because of his SOD, Made because he took an outrageous angle that could've possibly spewed 3 people town, which I removed my vote when it was a 6 person wagon and Made was at L-2 because of it.

I'll make HK competing wagon for now.

If I get off any time soon just know that I'll HOPEFULLY be on before deadline. At the least I'll be on about 1:30 eastern time ((30 minutes before deadline)) which will be tough because I will miss whatever happens between when I leave and basically when EOD is occurring.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:16 am
Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:14 am
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:09 am
Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:08 am is it safe to come out now
TS has always been LGBT friendly
im g-g-gaathering a feeling that the e/e exchange albeit annoying both came off villagery from it

and also i really like brad's takes on ender and i am going to parrot them myself until i feel the need to not do such anymore

i think we need to settle on a vote soon or at least i want to cause i'm probs gonna oversleep eod lol

i was rly hoping to hear from finger cause she's probs my #1 sus rn but sometimes u just don't get what u want in life

so what does everyone think is the best move?
of the current wagons my only opinion is "not Kami"

Sure

Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:13 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:12 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:09 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:45 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:43 am Folks, I have never met Mr. Ender Wiggin, space pilot extraordinaire.

Therefore, my analysis of said Wiggin cannot be one in which I need to assess preexisting behaviors.

Also
Okay but then you should listen to other people who give pretty straight forward and reasonable explanations irt him

Such as the explanation that he wasn't confident in his reads becuase he's been wrong a lot recently

Do you not think that's a valid reason to at least believe that post in particular is NAI? Because your response to the above was just "I don't care"
Naw meta shouldn't be trusted especially wwhen no one has flipped, someones own read will always be more reliable
I mean...that's kinda all you have when the game starts and you don't have a flip yet. Otherwise what are we reading each other off of?
Lol what that's completely untrue, you can toneread people pretty easily

I mean sure tonereads are there. But having meta on an individual can help out so much day 1 if used correctly.

There's a few people I can have a god read on based on their meta and end up being right about 90% of the time. It just makes solving so much easier.

Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:09 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:45 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:43 am Folks, I have never met Mr. Ender Wiggin, space pilot extraordinaire.

Therefore, my analysis of said Wiggin cannot be one in which I need to assess preexisting behaviors.

Also
Okay but then you should listen to other people who give pretty straight forward and reasonable explanations irt him

Such as the explanation that he wasn't confident in his reads becuase he's been wrong a lot recently

Do you not think that's a valid reason to at least believe that post in particular is NAI? Because your response to the above was just "I don't care"
Naw meta shouldn't be trusted especially wwhen no one has flipped, someones own read will always be more reliable

I mean...that's kinda all you have when the game starts and you don't have a flip yet. Otherwise what are we reading each other off of?

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:09 am
Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:08 am is it safe to come out now
TS has always been LGBT friendly

God...dammit

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:04 am I don't really have anything to say about why Falcon is town because I don't want to pull up posts from other games to explain, but if you read his ISO I think it's very towny on it's own. Things he pokes at may be weird, but he has good tone, generally is combative in a way that's natural, his reads are changing based on new things which he sees in thread, and he comments on these things frequently so there's no doubt as to what his thought processes are. The things he's doing are simply put, towny

Alright, I'll take it.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:01 am I like how we all pick one name out of everyone's town lists and ask for an explanation

I've just been wolf reading Falcon for a bit of time since the game started.

Transcend and Esooa both have outed a town read on him. So I think I'll just listen and not vote there.

@Esooa

Can you explain your Falcon townread?

I took benadryl about an hour ago and I've been fighting against sleeping from it since. I've just been reacting off of stuff being said.

Sean was pushing on Esooa hard pretty early on. Can see that as aggressive.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:51 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:49 am Does Epi actually townread anyone? I've yet to see it.
Not as of yet Majister Coke

Oh hey, Rondo, good to see you.

Does Epi actually townread anyone? I've yet to see it.

Ender breaking the echo-vote to vote Epi is pretty towny to me as well. Feel like scum would still be latched onto Alison's vote, in order to not take responsibility or get dirt on them for voting.

And Esooa stronger townread.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:39 am
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:38 am this engagement is going to be very incheresting on D3
alexa remind me to feed the baby on D3

"setting a reminder for defeating the baby on D3"

Alexa is obvious town. Sheep read.

Disregard that was Kami that said that stuff about not caring about Transcend's meta.

Is that two people that don't look at meta reads?

► Show Spoiler

Was Epi the same person that did the whole "I don't care if Transcend's 'am doggie' stuff is town because I don't trust meta" thing or was that someone else?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:33 am investment in this game stocks are plummeting, honestly

This is why you HOLD and not SELL over the weekend.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:32 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:32 am
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:31 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:27 am
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:00 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:56 pm shit, I'm making wolfy posts again and transcend is gonna kill me
riddle me this, batman

what do you think about epignosis
Syn/Epi not w/w. Just noting this to myself for later.
bad read
You're both mafia aren't ya?
oh shit oh fuck

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:31 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:27 am
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:00 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:56 pm shit, I'm making wolfy posts again and transcend is gonna kill me
riddle me this, batman

what do you think about epignosis
Syn/Epi not w/w. Just noting this to myself for later.
bad read

You're both mafia aren't ya?

Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:11 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:10 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:09 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:16 pm Okay so I reread what happened from when I was at work....

Nothing much really changes...

Town:
Transcend
Alison
Syn
Sean
Esooa

Falcon has actually reappeared and posted decently enough. Made appeared and did a little bit of nothing from what I recall?

No idea what to call HallowKat right now. His thing of "policy yeeting" Kami for having apparent scum sided reads, or a past game where she's wolf sided is what's referenced, is something that I see myself doing as town. However these things never actually go through for what I recall since, again, I've done relatively the exact same thing.
The responses to being scumread and voted aren't really much. It's the same typical "You never read me right" response which I have no idea how to interpret alignment wise because I forget this shit happened once the game is over.

Everyone else I still need to get a hold of in terms of reading them.
That's not what happened though, I never said anything like that to hollowkatt lmao
I was saying he was talking about you scumsiding with your reads. Nothing about what you said about him.
you said I said "You never read me right" when I never discussed his ability to read me what so ever.
So why are you making things up?

That also was referencing what HallowKat was saying in response to Syn voting him, not you. That read is 100% talking about what HK was doing.

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