The Syndicate

The sad thing is that I was debating on using my ability to yeet Seanzie in the final hour.

Annnnd I hesitated.

Rough game.

Sounds good.

I'll be around if questions are asked.

Like I write that and keep pulling up dead town scumreads on JJJ so meh.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:57 pm I'm like nervous chilling tho lol

Brad convince me its gonna be okay

Nah it's fine.

If you want to switch to Moto, then whatever it's cool with me.

Keep it between the two though.

If he's town then we got severely out played.

Ehhhh fuck it never mind.

JJJ is optimal here. Night kills point to him, he had the red on a town and got it voted out.

This is the best decision.

I've had tinfoil a fair bit this game but not much room to explore them with how this game has panned out.

Porschaaaaa (why is my autofill for your name this?)

Outside of these 3, who would you want to kill?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:39 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:35 pm I could do something really really stupid but idk if it would be costly or game saving.
Are you just going to leave me hanging or

It's leaving everyone hanging until it happens I'm debating it hard in my head.

I could do something really really stupid but idk if it would be costly or game saving.

Bleh

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

We're goin'.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:53 pm so yeah, I think town is likely fucked on votes alone

four wolves can pile and clinch it (with, maybe even w/o hunger add-on)
if moto is wolf and non-performing and loose with voting, that might hamper them a bit, so just a three-wolf pile

that still means all five active town (assuming Martin town as the sidelined voter) need to unite on a wagon
if moto is on town side, we're never achieving that, lol

Like this here is 100% true because the dude has just planted on me all game and I'm town.

If he's town too the game's fucked.

Like I'm partially going haywire because of how the game has gone and just hoping to god to get some sort of positive result out of it.

This is also a decision where if it's wrong I'm sort of not caring.

But it's probably right.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:13 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:11 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:09 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:04 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:52 am This feels like such a fucking setup and I hate every fucking part of it.

But this dude is also voting me so I'm just sending him out.
What do you mean
What I said earlier with the "JJJ is maf that faked a red check on Meat and got him yeeted, so Zenon also is maf faking a red check on a town in hopes that we fall for it again" post.
So you think it's most likely w/w?
Lol wait but you also think moto is wolf? Doesnt that seem kind of incongruent? Unless this is a bus on moto?

No mostly voting Motobot out of annoyance, plus are you reading his iso and literally he just did what I said he was doing.

So probably just wolf taunting/lolcatting after all of that.

Which... could result in Zenon actually being town if Moto actually is mafia.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:04 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:52 am This feels like such a fucking setup and I hate every fucking part of it.

But this dude is also voting me so I'm just sending him out.
What do you mean

What I said earlier with the "JJJ is maf that faked a red check on Meat and got him yeeted, so Zenon also is maf faking a red check on a town in hopes that we fall for it again" post.

It's mafia and needs to get out.

motobot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:29 am Sorry for not posting yesterday it was my older brother's birthday

Yeah just kill this.

This feels like such a fucking setup and I hate every fucking part of it.

But this dude is also voting me so I'm just sending him out.

[VOTE: Motobot] aubergine

Whatever. Kinda hate this game.

If they're real I can't blame y'all obviously, like you're supposed to claim these things.

Also this mech stuff is just freezing a lot of us.

Low key the mech stuff kinda slowed this game down a lot.

However doesn't help that it's been all town deaths as well and motivation is just tanking.

.....

Annnnnnd the few super active players died.

Which like...again that Scotty Day 1 yeet I'm mostly pointing at as one of the worst moves I've seen for a Day 1 because that dude was obviously town.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:20 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:09 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:04 am Also to think.

Day 2 was Ringo banished from speaking, and Night 3 we have Rondo flipping town.

Day 3 Zenon is banished and is coming back the next day.

Did mafia banish their own teammate to WIFOM it and to make us all believe Zenon be town because of it?
I have to speak my mind that this has the potential to turn into a massive WIFOM wormhole.

I still don’t exactly townread you for shit, so how do I trust that you aren’t brewing this narrative.
To be fair I think I was the first one to bring up other possibilities, lime just kept running with it and finding other ideas I hadn't considered

Hello M'Lady,

Would you like to play a fun and rousing game of "Worse Case Scenario?"

I heard it is quite fun.

Yours truly,
Lad Pitt

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:21 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:13 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:09 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:04 am Also to think.

Day 2 was Ringo banished from speaking, and Night 3 we have Rondo flipping town.

Day 3 Zenon is banished and is coming back the next day.

Did mafia banish their own teammate to WIFOM it and to make us all believe Zenon be town because of it?
I have to speak my mind that this has the potential to turn into a massive WIFOM wormhole.

I still don’t exactly townread you for shit, so how do I trust that you aren’t brewing this narrative.
My man I'm the only one at this rate that can help you actually win if you're town.
Thank you Superman.

I can save everybody.

I also have a mass tinfoil on my head about a certain something.

Perhaps I should remove the tinfoil and cover up the leftover food from earlier.

But yeah I'm stashing that tinfoil until necessary.

If he IS town then guess it was just wacky mechs or he gambled and it didn't pay off.

But I doubt he tries it as town.

Guys if JJJ's a wolf pulling that off he accomplished getting a town killed over him.

One of the few that are left.

Actually maybe not the only one.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:09 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:04 am Also to think.

Day 2 was Ringo banished from speaking, and Night 3 we have Rondo flipping town.

Day 3 Zenon is banished and is coming back the next day.

Did mafia banish their own teammate to WIFOM it and to make us all believe Zenon be town because of it?
I have to speak my mind that this has the potential to turn into a massive WIFOM wormhole.

I still don’t exactly townread you for shit, so how do I trust that you aren’t brewing this narrative.

My man I'm the only one at this rate that can help you actually win if you're town.

Man of Steel actually wasn't bad and Henry didn't get a good enough chance as Superman as the series went on and I stand by it.

The rest were awful.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:08 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:04 am Also to think.

Day 2 was Ringo banished from speaking, and Night 3 we have Rondo flipping town.

Day 3 Zenon is banished and is coming back the next day.

Did mafia banish their own teammate to WIFOM it and to make us all believe Zenon be town because of it?
You're making me more miserable by the minute with the 25 different wolfing possibilities
Did rondo ever explain what happened with him when he was silenced?

He had to watch Man of Steel, Dawn of Justice, and Justice League all on repeat until Day 3 when he was released.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:07 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:05 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:03 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:30 am Again this is rough because all motobot has done has just been talking about what they've been doing, which becomes reasons why they haven't done anything.
And then vote at me because I called them out on that.

And literally nothing else.
No reads.
No attempted game solving.

Nothing.

Like I hate the fact that this could be town. I want this to be mafia. I'd actually rather yeet this after JJJ and hope it's the latter option.
To be fair if I was a child playing FM for thr first time I'd be surprised if I even did that much
....

How old is he?
I dont know but I remember the term "child" was used and this made me think like 13 or younger since the word teenager wasnt used, but I could have misunderstood lol

The way people were talking I was guessing 15 or 16.

Ughhhh.

I hate that I keep doing that but I'm trying to play/treat him as a normal player.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:03 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:30 am Again this is rough because all motobot has done has just been talking about what they've been doing, which becomes reasons why they haven't done anything.
And then vote at me because I called them out on that.

And literally nothing else.
No reads.
No attempted game solving.

Nothing.

Like I hate the fact that this could be town. I want this to be mafia. I'd actually rather yeet this after JJJ and hope it's the latter option.
To be fair if I was a child playing FM for thr first time I'd be surprised if I even did that much

....

How old is he?

Also to think.

Day 2 was Ringo banished from speaking, and Night 3 we have Rondo flipping town.

Day 3 Zenon is banished and is coming back the next day.

Did mafia banish their own teammate to WIFOM it and to make us all believe Zenon be town because of it?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:49 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:45 am I am missing the mastermind element behind JJJ’s claim, I really do. You were on heat and wanted to delay things and win one more mislynch, ok, perhaps. But otherwise, it’s no mastermind move. It’s masterdumb.
Writing was on the wall for the guy...idk if it was fully happening, but it was closing in on him.

Kamikaze a town that wasn't considered a yeet for most of the game.

Now let me ask you about the other side of the coin here:

Do you really think JJJ tries that as town?

Like this is JJJ, a guy who early game was saying "I'm a bit rusty guys, I haven't played in forever" all day.

Then somehow he decides to commit a hero ball tactic and claim a red check suddenly?

I don't think JJJ would be the type of individual that would pull that as a town, especially if he believes that he isn't as in tune with his game as he'd want to be.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:45 am I am missing the mastermind element behind JJJ’s claim, I really do. You were on heat and wanted to delay things and win one more mislynch, ok, perhaps. But otherwise, it’s no mastermind move. It’s masterdumb.

Writing was on the wall for the guy...idk if it was fully happening, but it was closing in on him.

Kamikaze a town that wasn't considered a yeet for most of the game.

Now let me ask you about the other side of the coin here:

Do you really think JJJ tries that as town?

100% the play here is to yeet JJJ after that he basically claimed a red on a town that was basically in people's towncore and was never getting yeeted when he was being considered.

Again this is rough because all motobot has done has just been talking about what they've been doing, which becomes reasons why they haven't done anything.
And then vote at me because I called them out on that.

And literally nothing else.
No reads.
No attempted game solving.

Nothing.

Like I hate the fact that this could be town. I want this to be mafia. I'd actually rather yeet this after JJJ and hope it's the latter option.

Like I don't know how to take the Zenon claim at all at this rate after what happened Day 3.

Legit could be seeing it as the maf team just flat out deciding "Let's just continue to claim red checks on towns now that the numbers are on our side."

But also could be them accidentally causing the best form of WIFOM and Zenon's check is actually real, but the JJJ's fake ends up making us have second thoughts on the matter and we end up misyeeting Zenon on accident because we end up assuming it's another attempt at tricking the town and wolves win anyways.

"Now, Brad, which one do you think it is?"

Dude I don't fucking know.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:24 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm This is the weirdest process of analysis I'm experiencing, every detail or angle raises a BUT/YET caveat

It's within reason that JJJ fake claimed to save his skin D3 and push all play into a lock-on vote, BUT was his wagon that dire as to merit this gambit (instead of fighting it out)?
-- same question if Zenon's claim is now the fake one, this is not a lylo phase (unless there's a double kill and we reach parity toNight?)
It's within reason that JJJ fake claimed to save his skin D3, YET why or to what purpose delay his lynch by just one phase, virtually?
JJJ fake claimed a track role, BUT does JJJ fit the profile of a player so bold / un-thorough in his gambit'ing, as to have banked on there being no actual track role to counter-claim?
Apart from two details, JJJ's and Zenon's ability claim are the same, BUT is that reasonable, within the design and balance of this game?
Two civilian track roles is a posibility, BUT is that balanced?
A mafia track role to counter a civilian track role is a design/balance posibility, BUT what would the track role, designed in this fashion, truly serve the mafia?
etc. I'll fill up further this thought process.
what was his wagon like? how many votes did he get?
I was having impure thoughts of jjj being a real tracker and wolves taking advantage of something like a redirector that gave him a false result and then counter claiming the tracker
cuz also like, what are the chances the wolves would sent moto to do a kill when, if jjj is really a wolf, he would be outed today. why not just send him? moto has also been in the poe quite a bit, it generally seems like a risky move to send him regardless of the jjj situation. i'm worried about this scenario and nobody seems to have considered it

If I had to take a guess, it would be because they didn't want any sort of role blocker or anything that stopped JJJ from doing actions causing maf to lose their night kill? So they had Motobot carry instead.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:44 pm Does game have hammer? Cause we can just hammer back to back honestly.

I don't think it does so we're here for about 90 hours.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:35 pm I read nothing yesterday I was extremely demotivated after getting hit with the ability, can I get a run down on JJJ and whatever

JJJ claimed watcher and saw that Meatbaby visited Tutuu Night 2, basically a red check.

Then we all voted Meat and he flipped town.

So yeah this means that JJJ is mafia.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:30 pm I don't mind killing JJJ too but kill Moto tomorrow or do it the other order either way Moto is confirmed wolf and I've achieved usefulness

We can do that tomorrow.

I don't want to say it like this, but it's needed to be said.

JJJ would know better than to basically fake a red as a town.

It's straight forward they ended up trading 1 for another.

Sorry but after yesterday....I'm just focusing on yeeting JJJ today.

Eh, I think I figured something out but that'll come later.

JJJ is pretty much outed maf at this rate and that's all that's needed to be said.

Hm...

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

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