The Syndicate

two wolves above this line

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:18 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:14 pm two wolves above this line

rank most to least wolfy players "above this line" as you say

no

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:48 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:01 pmFrist

Town

Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:01 pm Colorful tent!

Town

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:03 pm I used to rule the world...

Town

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:03 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:01 pmFrist

Only mafia post first as they’re the most excited to play the game. It is known

Town

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:06 pm Whoop whoop game!!

Null, possibly wolf.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:09 pm this game will be glorious, one thing to note is that i will be tryharding this game

Likely town

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:12 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:02 pm

Spoiler: show

TOWN STREAKING!!!!!!

Town

I hate love you lmfao

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:14 pm two wolves above this line

Wolf

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:24 pm im gay and mafia

Town

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:02 pm

Spoiler: show

TOWN STREAKING!!!!!!

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Town

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:43 pm Hello old friends and new friends!

Yay for new game!

Unknown, probably town.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

How many times have you called me out as wolf and been correct? 0 times.
Lucy / Seanzie equity

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:51 pm Of this PL, I’ve only played with JackofHearts, Creature and Lucy before. I’ll probably sheep SPF’s reads until I decide she’s mafia.

sheep me instead and town will win

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Alison (she/her) t
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) ?
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) ?
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) lw
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) t
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) lt
sig (he/him) w
staypositivefriend (she/her) ?
tutuu (any) .

echo Hello there
run ride_or_die.bat
echo Mac is town
run pre_town_win.jav
echo Time to win
run antifoil.exe
echo lets get this bread

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:04 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:52 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:51 pm Of this PL, I’ve only played with JackofHearts, Creature and Lucy before. I’ll probably sheep SPF’s reads until I decide she’s mafia.

sheep me instead and town will win

que?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Rondo you putting mac w when he hasn't even posted? Lmfao

to be fair I didnt know Mac was in this game

if I am sheeping you and they are sheeping me. Ipso facto lorum ipsum

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:48 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:06 pm Whoop whoop game!!

Null, possibly wolf.

I had a similar reaction. It's also why I'm townreading you for now.

What's your ish with Rondo?

His "two wolves above this line" opening felt fake.

lol

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:12 pm If day ended in 10 minutes I’d definitely vote for Rondo.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:17 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:25 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

serious cap time.


This is actually a really bad vote and look for creature. We’ve played enough over the years he’s getting an

i think w/w

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
[VOTE: creature] aubergine

You know what. I can get behind this. I wont tho. Yet

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:17 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:25 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

serious cap time.


This is actually a really bad vote and look for creature. We’ve played enough over the years he’s getting an

i think w/w

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
[VOTE: creature] aubergine

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:20 pm locking sig and sean in as town

Thoughts Tutuu?

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:21 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:20 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Alison (she/her) t
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) ?
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) ?
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) lw
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) t
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) lt
sig (he/him) w
staypositivefriend (she/her) ?
tutuu (any) .

echo Hello there
run ride_or_die.bat
echo Mac is town
run pre_town_win.jav
echo Time to win
run antifoil.exe
echo lets get this bread

Reading Mac as town too early especially if you town core him is very dangerous 100% would not recommend

Join me on the trust train

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:22 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:20 pm

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Alison (she/her) t
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) ?
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) ?
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) lw
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) t
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) lt
sig (he/him) w
staypositivefriend (she/her) ?
tutuu (any) .

echo Hello there
run ride_or_die.bat
echo Mac is town
run pre_town_win.jav
echo Time to win
run antifoil.exe
echo lets get this bread

Hahah pocketed by tutuu as well this game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Alison (she/her) ?
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) ?
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) lt
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) lw
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) ?
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) ?
sig (he/him) lt
staypositivefriend (she/her) ?
tutuu (any) lt

update

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:23 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:04 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:52 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:51 pm Of this PL, I’ve only played with JackofHearts, Creature and Lucy before. I’ll probably sheep SPF’s reads until I decide she’s mafia.

sheep me instead and town will win

que?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Rondo you putting mac w when he hasn't even posted? Lmfao

to be fair I didnt know Mac was in this game

if I am sheeping you and they are sheeping me. Ipso facto lorum ipsum

why are you explaining why you did something you did not do?

Because I thought she was right. Calling you wolf out of the gate is something I would do. I didnt check who had posted above my line

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:24 pm mac, 100 post cap btw, don't blow through it

oh shit. there is a post cap? this is anti-wolf behaviour? Maybe Lucy is town?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:31 pm rondo

mac
lucy
seanzie
neon

sig
creature

I shall signal boost this mostly because I am green and I like being green almost as much as I like being blue

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:33 pm I think Lucy is slightly unlikely to make that post if she and Max are w/w.

you can be a wolf

[VOTE: Baudib1 [/vote[] aubergine

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:42 am just figured out who oracle is

well then its easy, dont vote them

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:46 pm Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today

Just read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.

Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.

<eyebrow wiggles>

This is a weird thing to say considering I have opened 3 different ways in front of you

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:56 am so theres a bunch of cards with anti-town effects like ending day or ending night early, no chop, stuff like that. oracle guy/dude/girl/anythin in between can be like "im watchin u" @ a wolf and catch them if they play the naughty anti-town card. so we jus gotta be careful for town not to play the anti-town cards, coz u arent allowed to claim stuff about it later, and oracle can find u and then big trouble

so it should go without saying but just covering the bases here - if ur town pls dont use the cards that do obvious bad stuff like - protecting a player from chop, ending day early, stuff like that. i think u can just like pass the card back and chill. i dunno if ending night early and randomizing night actions is anti-town it could be anti-wolf too. i havent read them all carefully

(i havent played w u all and there might be disagreements in what constitutes as an anti-town effect, iss why im making this post)

Im gonna play the anti-town cards

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:58 am Shouldn't the Oracle just hard claim immediately?

I dont think the Oracle is going to hard claim unless they are on the block and they should play it that way because then the other side of the block is probably a wolf

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:10 am If I was oracle I would claim but that is because Inno Child Alison games have a very high winrate which might not apply to other people.

I am not Oracle

claiming if you are not oracle is anti-town. Unless this is a doublebluff

Boring. @Alison scum read me so I can wake up ty

Does Alison ever miss a chance to get into a dog fight with me? No. Alison is now trying to avoid attention and is therefore wolf

[VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

Current leans

@Alison wolf === saved the best for last so you should probably be reading this bottom up (Except for Sig who I am saving for last last). Trying to look for charitable things: Dont hate the kate vote. Dont disagree with the Lucy suss atm. Probably just going to trust Alison on tutuu being town. I think I figured out why Alison is ignoring me: Post 197 outs me as town in the events that Kate flips wolf.
@Baudib1 (I had this wolf but after isoing) town === equity with sig (anyone else think that post 21 is a weird one?) probably town for wanting to off my slot with this player list and clearly has no TMI on who I am and level 0 solving. Not sure if I am confbiasing myself but post 144 is more towny as well. Apparently knows Mac so maybe I shouldnt give them so many town points.
@Bereft dunno (GTH town?) === what is porschas most wolfy post?
@Creature dunno (GTH town) === what is sigs most towny post? (anyone can answer this as well)
@Dennis town === falcon equity and sig equity maybe / Why are you wishy washing on Kate. Make a read, town or wolf? Why not voting for lucy or Neon? Why havent you voted yet?
@DrWilgy dunno (GTH no fucking content)
@falcon45ca town === Why is Bereft Mafia? (anyone can answer this one if they want)
@fingersplints dunno (GTH no fucking content) === splint some fingers
@Jackofhearts2005 wwe (GTH John Cena) === I will place you in a tomb stone hold if you dont post soon
@Kate dunno (GTH wolf) === You t hink I am town, you say my opening is identical to my 'town play' you have seen me open up saying almost nothing, you have seen me town try hard and you have seen me chaos post. How am I in any meta that isnt replicable as a wolf and just town?
@lucy towolf (GTH wolf) === Did you actually care if I ranked the people above or below the line? Why did you give up when I said no? Where is the tryharding? Possibly outed, need more data
@MacDougall town === Can you articulate why you went to ? reading me and then back to town?
@Neon maybe town === You think Mac's read on me is real? Does that mean you town read me or you think Mac town reads me? Why do you or dont you agree with it?
@Porscha town === post 204 which part are you referring to specifically? (Equity with falcon but probably just town) And what do you mean by post 61? If you town read me can you please articulate why?
@RondoDimBuckle IC af === lol my own iso
@Roxy dunno (GTH one post? town)
@Seanzie town == You scum read me on the 'fake' entrance. What if I told you that I do that as town? You can ask Kate
@sig wolf? (GTH Wolf) === Why did you try to undermine my Mac town read? Why are you defending Falcon? Why are you giving me a day 1 pass in a game about suspicion and deceit? What specifically do you like about Sean / Baud's post? When do you plan on doing any actual solving?
@staypositivefriend dunno (GTH wolf) === you have made zero posts towards me and I have been one of the most active in the game. Why? I would like to hear more about post 153? please explain.
@tutuu towolf (GTH town but I may be pocketed, can be wolf with sig or creature, tripple rule of three in post 142 and I dont like her calling me an easy town read could be TMI but she might just think she can read me easy) === You have me as town last I checked

===== read bottom up (except sig last) ==== ^
===== read top to bottom ==== v

What do you read me as and why?


Also I do not believe everyone who was "bored" after my bored post was genuine, maybe 1 wolf


I was going to drop a quick read list, then I started ISOing people I hadnt seen post and I figured while I was at it I may as well ruin my sleep schedule and hate myself in the morning and do a full ISO sweep of the game

and

while I am at it put a huge target on my back by placing a kill list

(A) Kate > (B) Sig > (C) Lucy > (D)(One of Alison/Mac)

A - if kate flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
B - if Sig flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
C - if lucy flips wolf, anal- win the game


A - if kate flips town > kill counter wagon and so on till finding wolf and then kill most towny player day 4 if 3 consecutive non wolf hits (Hence D. Mac/Alison)
B - as above but +1 day
C - as above but +2 days

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:28 am @RondoDimBuckle, should splints and I have content at this time?

The tone of your summery casts this in a negative light in spite the game only being open for 12 hours, opening during what is the evening and sleepy time for several.

Apologies I didn't realise you had the sleeping cycle of a koala. Also interesting you posted after getting called out hmmmmmmmmmm

But in the interest of fairness if its a crappy time for you then its all cool with me.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:32 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:28 am @RondoDimBuckle, should splints and I have content at this time?

The tone of your summery casts this in a negative light in spite the game only being open for 12 hours, opening during what is the evening and sleepy time for several.

Apologies I didn't realise you had the sleeping cycle of a koala. Also interesting you posted after getting called out hmmmmmmmmmm

But in the interest of fairness if its a crappy time for you then its all cool with me.

Wilgys first post was before your list...

You could reply to the post instead of this hmm

Lol I keep getting rekt by myself

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:33 am Also @RondoDimBuckle my answer is I believe Mac believes his read on you I do not age with it. I also dont disagree with it.

Form an option please

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:36 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:28 am @RondoDimBuckle, should splints and I have content at this time?

The tone of your summery casts this in a negative light in spite the game only being open for 12 hours, opening during what is the evening and sleepy time for several.

Apologies I didn't realise you had the sleeping cycle of a koala. Also interesting you posted after getting called out hmmmmmmmmmm

But in the interest of fairness if its a crappy time for you then its all cool with me.

You have compared me to the worst animal to ever exist and I believe I should take offense. So the negative tone was not speculation I think.

Also, I did join the thread briefly before this large post of yours. It's a good place to start, feels strange that you'd raise a suspicion on me responding to being "called out" given that context.

The vibe between your large post in felt that called me scum d1 and this feels similar, but in that game I couldn't find you.

Re read from the mindset of me not liking no posters and it will make more sense

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:42 am So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

Creature > SPF > tutuu > baud but this is off day 1 bullshit so don't anyone dare quote it as fact day 2 or 3

Negative 2 games minimum, I am pretty sure you were in Macs secret player list making it 3

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:10 pm Alison
DrWilgy
Kate
RondoDimBuckle
sig
tutuu

should contain wolves

Do you have actual reasons for them being wolves what is your track record on being right on them? Your track record on me isn't flash hot

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:58 pm usually i do

also there’s just always a wolf in alison/spf

please explain

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:34 pm I'd vote for Kate, Rondo, Jack, Falcon, Dr Wilgy today, probably not anyone else.

why?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:34 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:10 pm Alison
DrWilgy
Kate
RondoDimBuckle
sig
tutuu

should contain wolves

Kate and Rondo look worse here

why?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:19 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:52 pm @RondoDimBuckle pretty sure the level of tryharding i put into the thread has zero correlation to my alignment, furthermore my spew is notoriously hard to read so i’m pretty sure that analysis won’t do shit even if i was a wolf. so my question is, why do you think that it will, and why do you think that wim matters?

also i thought u were bluffing or calling me a wolf, i thought getting u to verbalize those thoughts make your thoughts about 2 wolves above this line super wolfy

which is why i SR you atm

this is the towniest post from lucy so far

Agreed, but I am disappointed she had to be pressured to wake up when she said she would wake up. Probably town off it tho

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:23 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:58 pm usually i do

also there’s just always a wolf in alison/spf

While SPF is quoting it, legit I'm more or less focusing on Alison and SPF because of this post and recent historical games where I've correctly scumread Alison and/or SPF when they were wolves and most players didn't.

I've not liked Alison's posts about others or reactions to my posts about her.

I have liked SPF's posts about others and her reactions to my posts about her.

Fwiw.

If Alison flips town who is next?

If Alison flips wolf is Roxy one of her partners?

^ Above question for anyone thinking Alison is wolf. Not a defense just gathering data

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:23 pm I think jack is outed for insinuating that alison would never go balls to the wall trying to kill a player d1 for doing nothing

Let’s kill him.

Why did both of you say this but not vote him?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:28 pm lucy
Bereft
Neon
staypositivefriend
RondoDimBuckle

Alison
DrWilgy
Seanzie
Dennis
MacDougall

falcon45ca
fingersplints
Jackofhearts2005
Kate
Porscha
sig

Baudib1

Creature
Roxy

Can I get a why for each one?

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:30 pm hardclaiming oracle

Well this is interesting

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:44 pm Justice - Justice, Fairness, Truth, Cause and Effect, Law. If the player who holds this card is night killed, they may choose to take another player of their choice down with them. If the player who holds this card is eliminated by poll, they may choose to take one of their voters down with them.

this is the only way i die, so i think spf's option is generally optimal

1) lucy is not an inter
2) fakeclaiming oracle as town/mafia is inting here
3) ergo i am oracle

What if I told you I have been softing oracle since the first 3 posts of the game?

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:12 pm i am oracle, are you CCing? @RondoDimBuckle

hardclaim your position

Its ok I town read you anyway

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:23 pm Alison (she/her) - Seems ok to me. I think a lot of her suspicion is based on horseshit and some of it is very opportunistic.

Baudib1 (he/him) - Is blatantly town. Voters on Baudib are wolves or need to get good.

Bereft (he/him) - Dropped off and is attracting zero attention = mild sus.

Creature (he/him) - Kinda sus.

Dennis (he/him) - Seems like an overwhelmed town. His takes feel sincere.

DrWilgy (he/him) - Not buying a thing he says.

falcon45ca (he/him) - Falcon is either mafia or a town who is not reading the game properly and still trying to influence the game in spite of it.

fingersplints (she/her) - Slank wolf prospect. Entry bad.

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) - Probably town cuz he's making me cringe all over the place and seems to have some sanctimony with his Alison sus.

Kate (she/her) - My current theory is town and that's why Alison is copping heat (wolves with TMI are defending her).

lucy (she/her) - Probably town Oracle?

MacDougall (he/him) - Lock wolf.

Neon (she/her) - Up and down. I scumread them earlier for just being ... guarded. Then Neon sorta made some reads that made me feel like she lacked tmi. But then when I look at opportunism as a scumtell Neon is suspect number 1.

Porscha (she/her) - Kinda not sure. Dropped off a fair bit and hasn't exactly been in their town meta.

RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) - Genuinely don't know.

Roxy (she/her) - I don't think Roxy is one of the mafia if my Kate town theory is correct. Roxy comes across like a town that Alison is kind of toying with out of principle.

Seanzie (he/him or they/them) - I think he's town just on wim and effort. His posts haven't really vibed much.

sig (he/him) - Lightly townreading Sig. Just sincere posts.

staypositivefriend (she/her) - Townreading on tone and feeling entirely. The game feels easier to solve and more rational when SPF is posting.

tutuu (any) - Wildcard. I don't know.

Gun to head?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:27 pm You town Tutuu mafia.

can I ask you to elaborate on both?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:04 pm Hot take: Alison/Roxy is w/w.

Do I believe it? I don't know. But it is a hot take.

I love how seanzie hates me yet has the same reads as me at the same points in thread

Taken from Lucy's post 684 but its white spoiler so I am not quoting it:

Creature
4
24%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, tutuu, MacDougall, staypositivefriend

Same thoery as before. If creature is town, who are the wolves? If Creature is wolf who are the wolves? (If any for both)

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:55 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:04 pm Hot take: Alison/Roxy is w/w.

Do I believe it? I don't know. But it is a hot take.

I love how seanzie hates me yet has the same reads as me at the same points in thread

This is pretty clearly not a serious read and you trying to pretend he has the same worldview as you is blatant mischaracterization. And of all things for you to comment on, this would appear to be a superfluous post.

Seanzie likes to play fast and loose with his reads, he decided to post it so there is an off chance he actually thought of it and believed it needed to be put into thread. I have been having the same thought and I decided to point it out. Interesting way to sus me tho.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:58 pm Is anyone specifically townreading Dennis?

Minorly, I dont really bother with Dennis if Kate isnt unless I specifically think they could be w/w. His posts so far in response to my prompts have been very town. But I would like to see more of his on his own stuff which is much more telling than being forced to make reads and pulling him into the game. So yeah, town read but light for now. Not sure how much its worth for you coming from me

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:58 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:55 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:04 pm Hot take: Alison/Roxy is w/w.

Do I believe it? I don't know. But it is a hot take.

I love how seanzie hates me yet has the same reads as me at the same points in thread

This is pretty clearly not a serious read and you trying to pretend he has the same worldview as you is blatant mischaracterization. And of all things for you to comment on, this would appear to be a superfluous post.

Seanzie likes to play fast and loose with his reads, he decided to post it so there is an off chance he actually thought of it and believed it needed to be put into thread. I have been having the same thought and I decided to point it out. Interesting way to sus me tho.

To be fair, I did actually think it, but I put it at tinfoil-level of belief.

In particular I thought it because the way Alison was pushing reminded me a little bit of Alison/Rondo early on in Halvosen Ridge, which was w/w.

HAHAHAHAH That is EXACTLY why I thought it but it was way more than tinfoil

Kinda want to say Seanzie is my ride or die but I havent seen him as wolf so I will just say town for now

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:01 pm In what world does a player SR another, but have no opinion on their wolf reads list?

Then what is your opinion on my reads list? who are the wolves I am hiding? Who are the wolves I am bussing?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:11 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:03 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:01 pm In what world does a player SR another, but have no opinion on their wolf reads list?

Then what is your opinion on my reads list? who are the wolves I am hiding? Who are the wolves I am bussing?

Your reads list is just a huge mess of hawt garbage.



You have players you question, who based off the queries tone you'd think you SR, but have them as Town



And players you question and then they're Wolves.



There's little to no rhyme or reason, and the whole list makes it easy for you to pivot onto another read at the drop of a hat...and you do.

Where is your reads list? Its easy to criticize without doing any work yourself.

Of course I question them like they are wolves. we are in d1 anyone could be a wolf. Everyone is doing their best to fit into the game and have fun. Even if I think someone is town it doesnt mean I wont ask uncomfortable questions.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:15 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:27 pm You town Tutuu mafia.

can I ask you to elaborate on both?

I literally said I don't know and then you asked me for gun to head. Now you want me to elaborate on reads you clearly asked me to snap based on feel. Therefore the answer is fucking obviously vibes isn't it. Jesus.

You know what. This is fair. Mea Culpa. I have been neck deep in work but I finally solved a problem that has been bothering me all week

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:19 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:02 pm Kinda want to say Seanzie is my ride or die but I havent seen him as wolf so I will just say town for now

Tell me about baudib. Also, you should figure out your whole "oracle" thing.

What about Baudib do you want to know?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:17 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am Current leans

@sig wolf? (GTH Wolf) === Why did you try to undermine my Mac town read? Why are you defending Falcon? Why are you giving me a day 1 pass in a game about suspicion and deceit? What specifically do you like about Sean / Baud's post? When do you plan on doing any actual solving?
@staypositivefriend dunno (GT
(A) Kate > (B) Sig > (C) Lucy > (D)(One of Alison/Mac)

A - if kate flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
B - if Sig flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
C - if lucy flips wolf, anal- win the game


A - if kate flips town > kill counter wagon and so on till finding wolf and then kill most towny player day 4 if 3 consecutive non wolf hits (Hence D. Mac/Alison)
B - as above but +1 day
C - as above but +2 days

Spoiler: show

Or you can ignore all of this Im not your mum

First, I don’t like the level of tie in you’re attempting to do this early on, pre any flips. A lot of assumptions are being made and I find that this is more commonly a tactic used by mafia. Especially early game since it allows you to post a lot but say very little.

I alreayd answered the falcon question when talking to him, but basically he’s misvoted a lot and I don’t see much to see why he’s mafia. His posts (up to where I was which was around 10am today) are all pretty normal.

Mac is someone who we shouldn’t hardcore read town day 1 and I said why in my post. I’m not liking some of your questions especially this one since I answered it upfront? Seems like you’re just fishing for a reason to vote for me right now.

The other two were gut feels I like their playstyle so far.

I was against voting you day 1 since I wasn’t seeing the reasons and it seems like you’re misvoted alot.


Now my questions for you.

Why is it odd that I don’t want people to Town Read Mac for doing almost nothing, BUT, it’s also odd for me to not want to vote you out since “this is a game of deception”? You’re Basically making two totally counter arguments/point that don’t fit together at all. This + you questioning me about Mac is raising some flags

Mac is usually pretty self resolving and someone I trust to get things right as town and someone I will tinfoil so its a win win to just town read him, either he is wolf and dies later because he is still around or he is town and he dies night 1 or wolves leave him and they die. Visavi my last wolf game where they tried to lover him and then play fast and loose and he ended up just locking the game up.

Yeah I frequently push multiple agendas as both alignments because its nice as wolf and as town I like to explore multiple game states at the same time so as falcon said, my reads tend to pivot a lot.

How do you feel about being an early pairing with creature? what do you think about the people that pushed you?

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:23 pm Yes, Rondo is holding the game hostage by talking about literally everything but the Oracle issue.

Not really. Ive already said I town read Lucy so we can just move on

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:40 pm @RondoDimBuckle -

same to u

I saw this post earlier this morning. I posted 2 minutes later. You didnt engage with me like you wanted to over the next 2 hours. Why?