The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:11 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:59 am [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

I could explain, but it wouldn't be convincing.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:00 am @MacDougall What do you find towny about Mixery?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:02 am I agree half way that Arc seems too smart to take Screen's opening seriously the way he did. But I'll let him speak to that.
Feels town through mindmeld

Dys has a decent explanation later that would work on conventional players

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:01 am I kinda hate all of Rondo’s posts around the ones I just quoted but like not in a definitive wolf read kinda way.

hehehe

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:54 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:16 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:10 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:02 pm light reads are LC town because of unecessary effort and falcon mafia because of the dumb dizzy case, but I'm not confident on either of those
Some praise & shade, then finished off with some uncertainty.

I feel personally attacked
Hmmmmm
There are two types of people: the ones who know they can't be certain about mafia reads, especially on day 1, and the ones who are not as great at the game as they think they are.

Did you forget to write something?

Sure Mac is most likely town but I also tinfoil anyone who is above reproach

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:51 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:23 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:36 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:41 pm spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town
Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?
I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

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srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:42 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:02 pm scum because of unecessary effort
FTFY

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:55 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:51 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:49 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:47 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:45 pm what one? the one you agree with or the one you don't?
The one that you're trying to make on me.
you don't see whats wrong with that?
It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.
where did the game stop at?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:14 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:55 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:51 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:49 pm

you don't see whats wrong with that?
It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.
where did the game stop at?
Well everyone else ignored your BS after you disappeared the moment you got attention on yourself.
Then you magically reappear the moment Arcbell and I started talking about you being mafia and now you're here trying to be smart mouth with your answers.
fuck, I magically disappeared again

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:33 pm Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.
HK still town and also I agree

yeah this is the post I was talking about earlier, HK totally town on that, the fact that HK is on Jack as well makes me not worry about my MAC Tinfoil

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:12 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:44 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:27 pm Agree. Src should come back and defend their vote if they can. Lets get this game goooooing!
I will D2. I have given enough information already.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:49 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:48 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:44 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:27 pm Agree. Src should come back and defend their vote if they can. Lets get this game goooooing!
I will D2. I have given enough information already.
That's what you said in your first post. That you'd "given information"

There are no power roles here buckaroo, what information could you possibly need to hide?
Im an open book not hiding at all
An open book, who has given out enough information already...yeah

OK [VOTE: screenplay] aubergine
Good look for Screen

could be theater?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:25 pm Jack
DDL
Mac
HK
Dizzy
(there was another light townread oh well)

All I see here is Jack/Dizzy pairing

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:25 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:02 pm light reads are LC town because of unecessary effort and falcon mafia because of the dumb dizzy case, but I'm not confident on either of those
Yeah, DDL is very likely town, here.

so you could say DDL is Good or if we want to shorten that even further: DDLG?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:20 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:05 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:05 pm I guess we’ve gotten to the point where Persoba 3 and wrestling and baseball aren’t a good enough excuse for my performance.

Don’t worry. I’m done with my work and at full capacity tomorrow. I’m not getting yeeted this phase.
you will be hammered by then lol
Why would I be? That’s stupid. If the case on me is “Jack hasn’t done anything” then why would you ever hammer me early when you know I’m free?
I'm not in charge of other people. I'm just warning you.
this is a lie
I mean I'm not. That's a choice others make lol.

You know I am going to sheep you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:20 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:17 pm And Naan

What abt them clearing??
what is the pro mafia agenda of posting one townread on town mac and then shadow voting your teammate?

but like I said ... probably not, not not.

damn it, this makes too much sense, there goes my tinfoil on naa

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:19 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:49 pm I’m Dewey.
LimeCoke is confirmed scum this game. That’s all I can say atm but the rest of you should use this information well.
As a time saving thing, is this claim for realzies?

I missed this hard claim, good question

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:16 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:11 pm
Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:29 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:14 pm
Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:11 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:56 pm
if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question
your honor why would I dance naked in front of parliament, it would only lead to me sitting in this exact courtroom, facing this exact jail time
What was Mac's read on Rondo on day 1?
Why are you asking me this?
I feel a bit off-put by Rondo asking Mac why he didn't die night 1.

I was asking people why Seanzie died over Mac, both to try to get insight into day 1 without having to backread because I'm lazy

but also because I don't think any wolf actually kills Seanzie over Mac in a vacuum unless:
1) They don't know who Mac is
2) Mac is the wolf
3) Seanzie's suspicious of them but Mac is not
4) They think they can leave Mac alive until late game in order to get people to tin-foil Mac as a deep wolf.

I've tried doing #4, it doesn't work, Mac just finds all the wolves and kills them all before you get to LYLO.
#1 is a bit silly given that this is Mac's homesite.
#2 is self-resolving is kind of silly to suspect on day 2, I don't think Mac hell buses on day 1.

But doubly so because:
Mafia only knows who their teammate is. Glomgold knows who both of the mafia are.
A mafia choosing to hellbus literally their only known teammate on day 1 is a highly dubious play that I don't think anyone makes. It's a possible play to make as Glomgold though.

But because it is a play that's only made 50% of the time, the prior probability of someone being a deep wolf that's hell bussing is already half of what it is in a normal game.

So I think that just makes Mac >>rand town. And I think that's a fact that people intuitively understand about the setup even if they haven't thought about the prior probabilities and what not.

So then Rondo's questioning of Mac to "make sure he's not a deep wolf" feels a little bit misplaced. The line of questioning is useful in order to figure out who Seanzie was scumreading that Mac was townreading to potentially triangulate the wolf off of that. But asking Mac the question directly to "make sure he's not a deep wolf" ... feels weird.

If Mac did indeed town or null read Rondo on day 1 though, then that further contributes to the case against him. If he scum read him as much as Seanzie did, then meh
So hold on, why do you think the hellbus is possible as Glomgold but not as proper maf? Ime 2 mafs more or less have the same value whether they have a night chat or not, especially when one can't kill the other. Sure maf may not want a NK night but without any protective roles town doesn't gain a ML. Maybe mac would be a little lonely afterwards, but I don't think there's really a huge material difference if you think mac can hellbus as Glomgold. Unless maybe Glomgold wants to avoid a quick maf win or wants his partner to rely more heavily on him.

I don't know about this whole mac cult of personality thing. There probably aren't special rules that apply to him, even if players respect his reads more than most. You've tried to game paranoia by leaving him alive so why wouldn't others try (and fail) too?

I like how you're trying to triangulate a scumread on Rondo but I think maybe it requires a few too many assumptions to stick? Esp. about Rondo's state of mind.

I took the whole "wanting to make sure he's not a deepwolf" as just some comfort seeking, didn't seem too unnatural.

Oh also maybe seanzie died because maf was sure seanzie wasn't Golmgold but mac might've been lol. Honestly maf should've nk'd on n1 to force us to auto-lim mac.
Glomgold needs coin to win, so they care more about their own personal survival rather than simply achieving mafia win-con. Whereas regular mafia ought to be very reluctant to bus the only person they're able to coordinate with in the game.

Also the two town-aligned 3p's also have a vest, so if a kill fails, it's because mafia targeted one of the 3p's but it might have been the town one.

if all mafia are eliminated wolf 3p becomes wolf so finding them is important

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:16 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:08 pm

Doesn't seem like you do either you salt machine.
Yeah but I haven’t read shit.

What’s your excuse?
Everyone in the game to a number is way townier than you.
There’s no way. I’m at baseline null. If I’m the scummiest player….

I mean, even if I was a wolf, I wouldn’t be the only one.
Yes you would be. The other mafia aligned player is a 3p.
Well okay then I only gotta find one. Shouldn’t be that hard.

Make me do everything myself grumble grumble
I'll give you a head start.

It's none of the below.

DDL
Lime Coke
Misery
Hollowkatt
Rondo

Finally made a list!
I disagree about Misery but I trust you to know them better so I will hide my paranoia for now

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:05 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:05 pm I guess we’ve gotten to the point where Persoba 3 and wrestling and baseball aren’t a good enough excuse for my performance.

Don’t worry. I’m done with my work and at full capacity tomorrow. I’m not getting yeeted this phase.
you will be hammered by then lol
Why would I be? That’s stupid. If the case on me is “Jack hasn’t done anything” then why would you ever hammer me early when you know I’m free?
I'm not in charge of other people. I'm just warning you.

this is a lie

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:06 pm Though it’s kinda disappointing we had a Day 1 wolf yeet and this is the best that can be mustered Day 2.

I’m not really one to talk and I guess the Falcon wagon was runaway but we really have no better ideas? Sad!

trump.gif

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:05 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:05 pm I guess we’ve gotten to the point where Persoba 3 and wrestling and baseball aren’t a good enough excuse for my performance.

Don’t worry. I’m done with my work and at full capacity tomorrow. I’m not getting yeeted this phase.
you will be hammered by then lol

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:05 pm I guess we’ve gotten to the point where Persoba 3 and wrestling and baseball aren’t a good enough excuse for my performance.

Don’t worry. I’m done with my work and at full capacity tomorrow. I’m not getting yeeted this phase.

is he even reading the thread?

[VOTE: jack of hearts ] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:46 pm Oh I think I want to clear Hollowkatt too.

if you look at HK Early there is a post that tagged me talking with seanzie I think or something. Basically loved that post for town HK

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:45 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:41 pm
Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:41 pm I kind of want to just sheep Mac and go back to slanking
that sounds like wolf talk to me
For real though. I'm here, my day 1 was NAI. I'll be active for the rest of the game too, did you ever read my longish post about why I think you're >rand wolf?

I did, I felt like there was no point responding to it because as expected someone came to my defense. Me defending me is not as good as someone else

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:44 pm Lag has been ok during this catch up. The big Mac analysis post passed the bullshit radar at least.

That pretty much just leaves Jack sitting there like a sad little wolf cub all on his own. In terms of LHF wolves anyway.

is asking me to not hammer a wolf thing for jack to buy more time for falcon or?

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:41 pm I kind of want to just sheep Mac and go back to slanking

that sounds like wolf talk to me

Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:39 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:51 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm I get this strange sense that you're happy to be scumread Porscha, you go in my town pile for now
I dont think a single person has scum read me and I mostly just assume I will be POE day 1 / day 2 no matter what b/c i'm lackadaisical early in game so I don't fight it much if it comes up

is this a weird attempt to pocket me or something ...........................................
Do people remember I'm in this game

Also I don't see anything from Porscha implying that they are feeling strange about not being scumread rn

But townpoints for using the word lackadaisical

I definitely want to flip porscha and you but I defer to mac

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:38 pm On day 1 I purposefully didn't make a read on Rondo. Rondo is right about that.

Reasons.

1. If Rondo gets accidentally resolved I don't super hate it.
2. Reading him prior to a mafia flip is like trying to read tea leaves. Post mafia flip it becomes a lot easier because he is an absolute magnet for wolf pushes.

Rondo is also sus of Dizzy for exactly the reason I am.

Rondo is comfortably town for me.

I both hate and love that you read me so well

Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:24 pm Lag and Jack need death as priority.
I want to kill Mac and then he posts things like this and it's like eh ok sure I guess not

why would you want to kill mac?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:16 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:57 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:57 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:12 pm Rondo has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content.

Is that typical of their Town or their Scum game? Inquiring minds would like to know
There is something about this post, Falcon...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:12 pm Yehhh...

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Well Object's last post of that appearance was at 10:56 AM my time.
Then Seanzie's push on Falcon starts at around 1:15 PM my time (Estimating I don't remember it off the top of my head) so a few hours in between so that checks out.
So wouldnt that mean.... Im town?
I don't see your name mentioned anywhere in that line of posting?
Falcon tries to intimate I am wolf to try to get a wagon off him,
Seanzie thinks its weird and then votes him.
where is your ability to read between the lines?
He did do that I just noticed that now.
He also voted you in response to Seanzie's vote so like...I'm thinking it's an attempted distance job based on that.

I really thought falcon spewed me town yesterday if you read his iso with me in mind. But I guess other people dont see it

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:15 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 pm
Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:06 pm @Arcbell

Why do you scumread me?
Is this a trick question..
Yes

(I actually just feel like no one really is interested in like grilling me or anything, which is weird because they have no information on my slot so why does no one care about trying to solve me?)

I just want to flip you without any questions because you slanked day 1 which is a mafia move. Anyone with sub 10 posts, chop

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm speaking of seanzie I'm kinda sus of dizzy
THANK YOU
How long did you find Dizzy scummy?

Opening post today, Mafia is way behind and has to come in with a plan. I am the obvious target

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:10 pm
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Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:35 pm
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:09 am
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm

So you're presenting this as if you have some special "information" that you've given us about the game, and now you've said enough and won't be back until day 2. It sounds like you're trying to be mysterious on purpose to get people to believe there's something behind what you're saying. It's inherently deceptive, especially since you're trying to use it as an excuse to slank!!

I think my vote is gonna stay on you for now
i was thinking that screenplay was like suuuuper wrong and was sorta wondering if he was too wrong to be mafia cuz LC and Mizery at this point were just ssooooooo towny to me and I was thinking "I bet if I am right some wolf tries to win townpoints by pushing him for the bad reads" and then you went ahead and did exactly that in like the scummiest sounding shit ever lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:14 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:23 am

I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

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I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.
i like this read but I think if LC = town and screenplay = town then arcbell is doing like strictly exactly what mafia would do in that situation (and then falcon sort of sheeped it to a lesser degree).
Like remember how this was my first significant read in the game. Bonus points for Falcon sheeping your play and flipping mafia thus demonstrating the mafia utility of what I am describing ie. Falcon has spewed Screenplay town via this.
You keep bringing up how you solved falcon first and pushed him hard (Congrats) Why are you not dead and seanzie is?
Why are you asking that question?

Because I am preparing to just sheep mac for the rest of the game and I want to make sure he isnt deep wolf
Do you think deep wolf mac hell buses falcon on day 1?

unlikely but crazier things have happened and I am paranoid

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:11 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:56 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm
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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm

seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...
I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo
uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no
if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question
your honor why would I dance naked in front of parliament, it would only lead to me sitting in this exact courtroom, facing this exact jail time
What was Mac's read on Rondo on day 1?

he didnt, because he knows its pointless

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:56 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm
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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:41 pm

I would've targeted mac b/c I didn't even know seanzie pushed falco
seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...
I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo
uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no
if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question
your honor why would I dance naked in front of parliament, it would only lead to me sitting in this exact courtroom, facing this exact jail time

are you saying you agree with me?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:57 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:57 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:12 pm Rondo has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content.

Is that typical of their Town or their Scum game? Inquiring minds would like to know
There is something about this post, Falcon...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:12 pm Yehhh...

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Well Object's last post of that appearance was at 10:56 AM my time.
Then Seanzie's push on Falcon starts at around 1:15 PM my time (Estimating I don't remember it off the top of my head) so a few hours in between so that checks out.
So wouldnt that mean.... Im town?
I don't see your name mentioned anywhere in that line of posting?

Falcon tries to intimate I am wolf to try to get a wagon off him,
Seanzie thinks its weird and then votes him.
where is your ability to read between the lines?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm speaking of seanzie I'm kinda sus of dizzy

THANK YOU

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:58 pm @RondoDimBuckle

Why are you asking Mac why Seanzie died instead of him?

let me catch up, if you're not going to back read, someone has to

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:24 pm Lag and Jack need death as priority.
I still lean town on NAA but what about him as well? The only way wolves come back out of this game is through slankers not resolved.

If you hard block him I wont bring it up again
How much towncred did you assign seanzie in your head during the night after the falco flip?

I had sean as inno child before the flip for how he interacted with me. If seanzie wanted to hard pivot to anyone but me I would have joined him

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Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:35 pm
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:09 am
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:54 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:50 pm

Then what information are you referring to? Don't be so cryptic
not being cryptic. you can make a decision and take it just like i did. do you think im wrong or scum.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:49 pm I’m Dewey.
LimeCoke is confirmed scum this game. That’s all I can say atm but the rest of you should use this information well.
So you're presenting this as if you have some special "information" that you've given us about the game, and now you've said enough and won't be back until day 2. It sounds like you're trying to be mysterious on purpose to get people to believe there's something behind what you're saying. It's inherently deceptive, especially since you're trying to use it as an excuse to slank!!

I think my vote is gonna stay on you for now
i was thinking that screenplay was like suuuuper wrong and was sorta wondering if he was too wrong to be mafia cuz LC and Mizery at this point were just ssooooooo towny to me and I was thinking "I bet if I am right some wolf tries to win townpoints by pushing him for the bad reads" and then you went ahead and did exactly that in like the scummiest sounding shit ever lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:14 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:23 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:36 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:41 pm spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town
Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?
I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

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srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:42 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:02 pm scum because of unecessary effort
FTFY

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:55 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:51 pm

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.
where did the game stop at?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:14 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm

Well everyone else ignored your BS after you disappeared the moment you got attention on yourself.
Then you magically reappear the moment Arcbell and I started talking about you being mafia and now you're here trying to be smart mouth with your answers.
fuck, I magically disappeared again

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:33 pm Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.
i like this read but I think if LC = town and screenplay = town then arcbell is doing like strictly exactly what mafia would do in that situation (and then falcon sort of sheeped it to a lesser degree).
Like remember how this was my first significant read in the game. Bonus points for Falcon sheeping your play and flipping mafia thus demonstrating the mafia utility of what I am describing ie. Falcon has spewed Screenplay town via this.
You keep bringing up how you solved falcon first and pushed him hard (Congrats) Why are you not dead and seanzie is?
Why are you asking that question?

Because I am preparing to just sheep mac for the rest of the game and I want to make sure he isnt deep wolf

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:43 pm pick from the following

1. the mafia thought seanzie was a bigger issue than me
2. the wolves like playing with me more
3 the wolves are dumb

seanzie wanted to flip me so they think they can get a free flip

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:42 pm
Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:41 pm Unironically though, can someone summarize to me how we got a wolf on day 1?

Did Seanzie lead the push or something?
Seanzie and Mac started it, everyone else sheeped or piled on.

dont forget HK, they had some things to say even if they didnt vote falcon. 3 people said good things and falcon died

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:35 pm Is there any way to see vote history here?

check my iso, I did grabs

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:57 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:12 pm Rondo has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content.

Is that typical of their Town or their Scum game? Inquiring minds would like to know
There is something about this post, Falcon...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:12 pm Yehhh...

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Well Object's last post of that appearance was at 10:56 AM my time.
Then Seanzie's push on Falcon starts at around 1:15 PM my time (Estimating I don't remember it off the top of my head) so a few hours in between so that checks out.

So wouldnt that mean.... Im town?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm
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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:41 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:39 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:29 am

There are no PR's, there is no gambit. So why out of all the RVS talk was that what got you going? You felt attacked? Hate the play style? Looking for a reason to vote someone? There is information there that can be used to help sort you.
I think it's the first two reasons for you.
Arcbell I see as looking for a reason to vote someone. They give a narrative (doubtful in any world) why I'm scum. They also explain to you why I could be town. They are having conversations without looking for answers and without questioning or doubting their vote.
[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine
Now I will miraculously disappear again.
maybe if arc was wolf they would have targeted screen here instead of the seanzie flip?
I would've targeted mac b/c I didn't even know seanzie pushed falco
seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...
I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo
uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no

if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:51 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm I get this strange sense that you're happy to be scumread Porscha, you go in my town pile for now
I dont think a single person has scum read me and I mostly just assume I will be POE day 1 / day 2 no matter what b/c i'm lackadaisical early in game so I don't fight it much if it comes up

is this a weird attempt to pocket me or something ...........................................

I have a slight scum read on possibly you and dizzy being paired but its outside because other people are clearing dizzy so I wont do more than say it here

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm
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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:41 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:39 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:29 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:22 pm

I've done it a few times this game already to make sure what I'm saying makes sense.

That's the thing, there's no PRs in this setup so even trying a gambit saying "I'll save info for later" doesn't make any sense here.

What's getting to me is that he's refusing to out any information in a game with 0 PRs. Then when I'm confronting him about his read on me or my scumread on him, his response is just making smart remarks or they're conversation twisting to try to confuse people.
They're not showing attempts to evaluate alignments of anyone. It's more just being disruptive.
There are no PR's, there is no gambit. So why out of all the RVS talk was that what got you going? You felt attacked? Hate the play style? Looking for a reason to vote someone? There is information there that can be used to help sort you.
I think it's the first two reasons for you.
Arcbell I see as looking for a reason to vote someone. They give a narrative (doubtful in any world) why I'm scum. They also explain to you why I could be town. They are having conversations without looking for answers and without questioning or doubting their vote.
[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine
Now I will miraculously disappear again.
maybe if arc was wolf they would have targeted screen here instead of the seanzie flip?
I would've targeted mac b/c I didn't even know seanzie pushed falco
seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...
I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo

Yeah I was going to hard block any push on Seanzie for his play yesterday, classic townie Seanzie

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:24 pm Lag and Jack need death as priority.

I still lean town on NAA but what about him as well? The only way wolves come back out of this game is through slankers not resolved.

If you hard block him I wont bring it up again

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:23 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:05 pm That night kill blows my fucking mind actually cuz Seanzie damn near spewed himself mafia by trying to save Falcon who then flipped mafia lol. Then he got night killed and flipped town. What in the blue hell lol.
What the fuck are you on, Mac. Lol. I swear, sometimes you are so far away from reality. Sean was the main reason Falcon was chopped and the first to call him out. I 100% expected Sean to be killed here. Lol. Your filter is fun, but it’s the Mac-filter. Now, start over with Rondo and tell me what you think.
wow that's quite rude

I'm not talking to you
I’m correcting your assumption that you’d be an obvious kill and Sean wouldn’t.

Even if I was rude, it’s said in love.

I’m a bit frustrated how you dismiss my Rondo read.
have you played with rondo before?
Nope
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 0&sr=posts this was their first game on ts and they were town and playing exactly like they are here

Rude, how dare you share my secrets?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:21 pm @dyslexicon articulate your porscha read please?

this

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:06 pm wHy So MaNy LiNeS bEtWeEn StAtEmEnTs

@RondoDimBuckle lol wtf was that

It just seemed to me he was trying to push the posts down to hide posts higher up. It was weird

You know?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:03 pm Seanzie is such a wtf kill here with zero protectives. Need to iso the guy lol. I thought he was mafia. DDL and I were spewed town way more so killing Seanzie > me is offensive to me lol.

lol

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:09 am
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:54 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:50 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:49 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:48 pm

That's what you said in your first post. That you'd "given information"

There are no power roles here buckaroo, what information could you possibly need to hide?
Im an open book not hiding at all
Then what information are you referring to? Don't be so cryptic
not being cryptic. you can make a decision and take it just like i did. do you think im wrong or scum.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:49 pm I’m Dewey.
LimeCoke is confirmed scum this game. That’s all I can say atm but the rest of you should use this information well.
So you're presenting this as if you have some special "information" that you've given us about the game, and now you've said enough and won't be back until day 2. It sounds like you're trying to be mysterious on purpose to get people to believe there's something behind what you're saying. It's inherently deceptive, especially since you're trying to use it as an excuse to slank!!

I think my vote is gonna stay on you for now
i was thinking that screenplay was like suuuuper wrong and was sorta wondering if he was too wrong to be mafia cuz LC and Mizery at this point were just ssooooooo towny to me and I was thinking "I bet if I am right some wolf tries to win townpoints by pushing him for the bad reads" and then you went ahead and did exactly that in like the scummiest sounding shit ever lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:14 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:23 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:36 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:41 pm spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town
Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?
I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

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srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:42 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:02 pm scum because of unecessary effort
FTFY

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:55 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:51 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:49 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:47 pm

The one that you're trying to make on me.
you don't see whats wrong with that?
It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.
where did the game stop at?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:14 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:55 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:51 pm

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.
where did the game stop at?
Well everyone else ignored your BS after you disappeared the moment you got attention on yourself.
Then you magically reappear the moment Arcbell and I started talking about you being mafia and now you're here trying to be smart mouth with your answers.
fuck, I magically disappeared again

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:33 pm Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.
i like this read but I think if LC = town and screenplay = town then arcbell is doing like strictly exactly what mafia would do in that situation (and then falcon sort of sheeped it to a lesser degree).
Like remember how this was my first significant read in the game. Bonus points for Falcon sheeping your play and flipping mafia thus demonstrating the mafia utility of what I am describing ie. Falcon has spewed Screenplay town via this.

You keep bringing up how you solved falcon first and pushed him hard (Congrats) Why are you not dead and seanzie is?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME Hammer?

[VOTE: rondo ] aubergine

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ty but jack asked me not to so I am holding off

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