The Syndicate

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:18 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:16 pm Like I mean ted was gone, WW definitely wasn't being lynched, what the hell?
Because I am very loudly telling the entire thread that I will not clear Ted for claiming PR and then saying he wouldn't talk about it when I know I roleblocked him.

did you get feedback? my mental image of a role block is just you send it out into the ether and it works or not and you just have to accept you know nothing

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:14 pm if pyxxy doesn't post again i'm moving back to him

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:14 pm lol my timing is flawless

yeah this doesnt help my Gia + Pyxxy worldview

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:14 pm Im out errands, longer than expected ofc :/

Back home hopefully by 15min from EOD

permission granted to @ me as much as you want

@pyxxy who on you is most suspicious? Maybe in order including me

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:12 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:06 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:05 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:01 pm I didn't say I thought Ted was scum, I said that I don't believe his claim was AI lol.
Actually I do find it a little sus, I know it's sort of standard procedure for town PRs to be coy around their roles but when you guys brought it up to me that I'd missed his claim and I went to read it and saw that he wasn't answering questions about it, it made me think he knows exactly what I did and refuses to talk about it, which on a gut reaction I would say is wolfy.
Not guaranteed wolfy, just... kinda wolfy.
look at this point if you are certain you are dying. A power role with some sort of jail or doc will keep you alive if it exists you may as well share all and we can go into the chop and night phase with full information. If Tedd is wolf then the wolves already know what you did
Ok, I have a hunch the roles in this game might be a little wonky so it's not a guarantee I have anything at all on Ted
I just think as a PR he would probably know that something happened last night but I could also be super wrong in which case I mostly wasted my breath with this

He shouldn't have done anything last night if he is a PR because I blocked him. That's why I think it's weird he explicitly said he wouldn't talk about it. I'd expect a town PR, in most cases, to WANT to give info to the rest of town that there was someone who blocked them. But instead he said he was going to hide info. Imo there is no harm in talking about the existence of a roleblocker because it's not a protective role. It's like the offensive half of a jailkeeper, it can prevent a kill, but it's not a doctor. So if a town roleblocker gets outed, it's not that big of a deal (I'm just making it into a big deal because I don't think anyone wolfreads me and I might be the only player right now that nobody at all has pointed a finger at today).

on top of that even if he says he got blocked wolves have A) the option to try and kill him through a doc/jk or B) go looking for a role blocker they dont know about. So I agree not talking about it is anti down and -ev

I was wolf reading you in a sense (very slight) from that reaction test but I think everything since then has been golden. I just had my model of how you should react incorrect.

Since we are sharing FMPOV I have been sussed a LOT and protected JUST as much and the likelyhook there are wolves in both camps is high. It is possible that wolves just sat by but I feel like I was being JUUUUST active enough for them to know I would be back.

I am also claiming PR obviously

oh, or @Dyslexicon

Can I get one more vote on pyxxy so he cant self pres onto TSP @leetic ?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:06 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:04 pm [VOTE: pyxxy ] aubergine
Never mind lol

gotta keep it randing

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:05 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:01 pm I didn't say I thought Ted was scum, I said that I don't believe his claim was AI lol.
Actually I do find it a little sus, I know it's sort of standard procedure for town PRs to be coy around their roles but when you guys brought it up to me that I'd missed his claim and I went to read it and saw that he wasn't answering questions about it, it made me think he knows exactly what I did and refuses to talk about it, which on a gut reaction I would say is wolfy.
Not guaranteed wolfy, just... kinda wolfy.

look at this point if you are certain you are dying. A power role with some sort of jail or doc will keep you alive if it exists you may as well share all and we can go into the chop and night phase with full information. If Tedd is wolf then the wolves already know what you did

[VOTE: pyxxy ] aubergine

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:01 pm I didn't say I thought Ted was scum, I said that I don't believe his claim was AI lol.

no I am voting him because it is the statistically most likely thing to make him appear in thread

watch this. I am magic. [VOTE: Ted ] aubergine

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:59 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:58 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:54 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:46 pm The micro around ted's claim passed the smell test for me tho, so I rlly rlly rlly do not see myself reevaluating there
I have reasons why his claim didn't pass the smell test for me
If you think you're about to be night killed and its going to be lost with you why are you not sharing it?
Cause ngl I was hoping Ted would possibly eat the nightkill so I wouldn't have to solve him
I targeted him last night and I find it suspicious that he said he won't answer any questions about whatever his role is
the fact that you doubt means he wont eat the night kill.
Well now that I've said my piece, he's definitely not eating the night kill, I am.

Oh I missed the claim there. I was too focused on our discussion.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:54 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:46 pm The micro around ted's claim passed the smell test for me tho, so I rlly rlly rlly do not see myself reevaluating there
I have reasons why his claim didn't pass the smell test for me
If you think you're about to be night killed and its going to be lost with you why are you not sharing it?
Cause ngl I was hoping Ted would possibly eat the nightkill so I wouldn't have to solve him
I targeted him last night and I find it suspicious that he said he won't answer any questions about whatever his role is

the fact that you doubt means he wont eat the night kill.

I keep wanting to vote myself to fuck with waganomics, damn you JJJ

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:46 pm The micro around ted's claim passed the smell test for me tho, so I rlly rlly rlly do not see myself reevaluating there
I have reasons why his claim didn't pass the smell test for me

If you think you're about to be night killed and its going to be lost with you why are you not sharing it?

bereft why did you have to be the one to blink first? [VOTE: bereft ] aubergine

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:43 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:42 pmhth?
hope this helps

oh lol.

I still come away not happy with pyxxy.

Robyn why didnt you leave a classic reads list >:(

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:32 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:28 pm i think you provide less content if you can get away with it. i'm not sure what you mean by the second question but i'm not sure what difference it makes.

do you think i should be reading you as town? if so, why?
you think content to sexual posts is indicative of my alignment

i am telling you i'm big game, can't be caught from such pedestrian methods such as a "twinktell"

i don't care what your read on me is really, but i will tell you if the reasoning is flawed, and this logic simply has no relation to my alignment. instead it depends on my mood

Did Gira answer this? I cant find it

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:44 pm @Gira if you were mafia, who would u push

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:13 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:44 pm @Gira if you were mafia, who would u push
idk probably rondo or something, i'd just go for whoever is the safest target, maybe pyxxy because i could probably get away with it. pushing mac would be a deathwish, i can't push wind because doing so would functionally out me, leetic would probably be fun to argue with but he's the type of player where as scum you let him tear apart the town for you, and i would probably try to avoid insomnia so that would limit my options pretty strongly.

i finished a recent scumgame on the org where i played like pure trash if you actually care about meta, was basically impossible for me to find a good push

I am seeing Gira + Pyxxy in this. Or am I just confbiased after the last few posts?

Oh oops I think I have been calling Leetic she, my bad if I have been.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:54 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:53 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:05 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:02 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:59 pm Mac help people are asking me for reads and or content
me/wwa/leetic are town

solve from here

if you’re unsure of any name i’ve listed, read their iso and all shall become obvious

yes, i am telling you what to think
mac's town too
yes he's towny
yes he can play like this as wolf
yes reading him like town off this is like rolling the dice on one of the strongest wolves here

tldr you need to see more from him, ie results
isn't that what I said
i said something different

really dont like this

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:08 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:07 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:06 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:05 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:56 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:42 pm sources say a vote happened to land on robyn, although we haven't been able to corroborate the origin of said vote
how did you hear that it happened on me, and not abbie/rondo?
if I told you that I wrote this post as a joke, would you believe me
are u serious?
yep

the way you said it I thought you were joking/being weird so I wanted to politely mock the passive tone
i would never joke about mech (lie)

I dont like this

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:26 pm If I'm dead tonight, then could someone please look over Robyn's reads again? I think there's a chance there's something important there. I get that they were an easy push because they got crowded out of the thread by several simultaneous pushes, at least two of which I know were from town (Mac and me), but if there's any chance they posed a threat to wolves, I think it's worth looking into. I know Robyn can be a very strong town player when left alive in late game, so if wolves know that Robyn can catch them out, they would want to fan the flames on their wagon.

I know I will

doing a thing [VOTE: Abi ] aubergine

I was about to ask about letting it rand but isnt TSP at +1 so it actually isnt a rand right now so no rand

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:06 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:04 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:03 pm also - rondo said "dont ever lynch abi" cuz it cuts me off - don't agree with this
Wait why not?
am already dead - if abi is contentious / wolf and needs to go at some point- dont refuse cuz of me

fair point atm even though I cant read neon that well I am not about to yeet her so we dont need to worry about that eventuality atm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:03 pm also - rondo said "dont ever lynch abi" cuz it cuts me off - don't agree with this

Wait why not?

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:02 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:41 pm pretty sure @Porscha can back me up on that
ok sure - merh I feel used, though

also bet dizzy is town? (I have read 1 1/2 posts from them)

Just trying to bring you back to the convo <3

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:57 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:54 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:52 pm Wind do you have thoughts about the quick emergence of a wagon on pyxxy
Yeah, I think it's stinky
Because pyxxy has been kinda consensus poe all day, I think the last real town reader on him was mac who died, and that makes pyxxy a viable misyeet if town
I think he's been a little townier than not, although far from towncore, and that's why the wagon feels alarming to me. It has no dissenters, much like how Robyn's wagon hardly had dissenters.
From my perspective mid day pyxxy would not have been in most people’s POEs, which typically looked like [me rondo ted bereft dizzy flex]

flex?

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:55 pm That rondo got a secret vote twice now suggests that my theory of most voted corresponding players in the other thread is somewhat more likely to be legit ig.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:55 pm +1 D1
Me
Robyn
Neon

+1 D2
Me
TSP
WWA

yeah its just completely random atm?

nvm

+1 D1
Me
Robyn
Neon

+1 D2
Me
TSP
WWA

yeah its just completely random atm?

wait who have the +1's today?

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:48 pm no vote makes sense tho, since its possible that we vote off al the wolves from our thread before the other side does presumably

oh... well that makes more sense than my thought that both threads will smash together at some point

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:45 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:31 pm Wait, why is no elimination an option? Has this already been discussed?
Why wouldn’t it be (?)

Because most hosts dont include it. I have a mech reason to include it in my game.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:37 pm Ugh, here we go.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

well it takes two to tango [VOTE: TSP ] aubergine

I really like dizzy's entrance and it feels like exactly what I was going through this game @Dyslexicon is there any chance I can convince you to join the game proper?

pretty sure @Porscha can back me up on that

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:39 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:36 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:33 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:30 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:26 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:24 pm Where did Dizzy defend me now? I must be missing something, because all I remember is them calling me cute that one time.
Yeah I ctrl F'ed, it doesnt exist.
Yeah it was in my notes because I read it on this:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:35 pm Gira, my love, my one and only.

Hands across the Atlantic Ocean

[VOTE: Robyn] aubergine

They had a wordy post and they didn’t say hi to me.
which situationally was pushing robyn over you despite you scumreading him.
Ran you've supposedly spent the entire game claiming that actually D1 was about people going to kill Bereft, when literally everybody else knows that is just false.There was never a point where I was in any serious danger of going over, and absolutely nobody was playing around me, so kindly please just go read some posts elsewhere or smth instead of just pushing straight up nonsense.
I think there were maybe 3 votes on you at some point
It was like halfway through the day or so and you were maybe top wagon, but wasn't close enough to eod to guarantee you'd remain a wagon
yeah im fully aware that at one point i had 3 votes, my only serious voter being robyn, rondo was practically clicking buttons, and pyxxy was doing who knows what pyxxy was doing.

Hahah yeah any of my votes d1 (or any day really) dont matter except for the last one

If mac was alive he would say dont look at what I am doing look at where I land

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:35 pm I’ll do this one more time for the people in the back

- *I* will not continue on for this slot past this day. Doesn’t mean my slot can’t be “redeemed”.
- I have read almost nothing of the game. I’m not into it. Most of what I read just annoys me. If I had to guess, and we are dealing with a normalish wolf team, I’d say they’re among Ran/Abbi/Pyxxy/TSP/Rondo. No thoughts on most of these really, but Ran’s solve is not a defendable position imo. Actually, if people are so sure Ran is town, maybe they’re right. I don’t know their range or style. But if it that was say Halley, I would scream bloody murder. Ted/Bereft obvtown. Gira town. Leetic still town probably, just doing Leetic misinterpretation. All of these takes may as well be bad. I just don’t think they are.
- It’s self meta of probably a gross kind, but I’m beyond caring. I’m literally incapable of forgetting about a game and phoning it in as mafia. That’s probably just a social thing. It’s literally that simple.
- I’m truly sorry for making this game harder than necessary. I tried to do a little to counteract that. I really just am not very interested. So sorry for adding to low morale. I’m rooting for town to turn it around. There’s only been one mischop. It’s not dire at all. And lots of capable players this game. Don’t freak out. Freak in.

Good luck. Sorry to disappoint.

You’re still all cute btw

Dizzy can I get you to explain all your reads and is that a hierarchy?

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:35 pm And as far as the people more generally who are trying to scumread dizzy. Can we stop pretending that dizzy's aware of much of anything thats going on in the game Do you have any actual evidence of this? Because I'm pretty sure there isn't, in which case the default assumption, that Dizzy's not acting on everything in the world.

I think it was leetic saying that you have some mech on Dizzy being town is this true?

Wait, why is no elimination an option? Has this already been discussed?

Spoiler: show

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:27 pm Leetic, probably.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:27 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:25 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:11 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:09 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:06 pm Anyway
I have this fear that none of the proposed wagons for today are wolves, but in all honesty I cannot pick out a wolf in my current read progress so that's entirely on me for being uncertain.
If you could make a wagon suddenly be the one we are on, which one?
TSP, there are no votes on him but there's been plenty of talk about how he's scummy
Ok I'm sorry for this but it's been close to 15 minutes and a bunch of you are active
Why does nobody have comment on this post? Is there a reason you guys are engaging with my posts before and after this but not specifically this one?
oh shit, sorry I didnt see it. I also dont have any read on TSP other than he is on my Wagon I have no arguments against it

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:25 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:11 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:09 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:06 pm Anyway
I have this fear that none of the proposed wagons for today are wolves, but in all honesty I cannot pick out a wolf in my current read progress so that's entirely on me for being uncertain.
If you could make a wagon suddenly be the one we are on, which one?
TSP, there are no votes on him but there's been plenty of talk about how he's scummy
Ok I'm sorry for this but it's been close to 15 minutes and a bunch of you are active
Why does nobody have comment on this post? Is there a reason you guys are engaging with my posts before and after this but not specifically this one?

oh shit, sorry I didnt see it. I also dont have any read on TSP other than he is on my Wagon I have no arguments against it

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:22 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:19 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:15 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:12 pm Ah, the thread came alive, nice, nice, .

lol at rondo calling me a mother$%#!er for saying i would vote him over dizzy if forced. Its not my fault dizzy's just that polarized, but yeah, one can argue which of them was more likely to save themselves from being chopped.

Thankfully its $%#!ing irrelevant now, thank $%#!.
I really thought you were in my corner so it felt like a betrayal ngl. Bring back tabasco posting tyvm
I mean the only person more in your corner is....?

Neon Abigail, but yeah lol, no I understand that getting voted over an inactive by someone supposedly in your corner would be very infuriating.
Oh yeah, I forgot Abbi also had Rondo as town lol
Earlier today I thought she was the only one who agreed with me on that take, then saw that you were also defending Rondo
Idk though, that's still not many
I would like to think I've solved Rondo correctly and in good faith but if I'm missing something, I'd like to hear it from someone who thinks he's a wolf. And not the "everything he posts is noise" excuse, please. That's not helpful and neither is it true.

Who has been saying that everything I post is noise?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:16 pm This game.

Rondo is not a wolf.

Gira is not a wolf.

Leetic is not a wolf.

There is at least one wolf in Bereft/Dizzy, quite possibly two but the entire game freaking out (again!) about pushing there indicates at least one active partner elsewhere.

Pyxxy... *can* be a wolf but this wagon rising up and pushing them over dizzy is ???

I agree with the ??? but what is your thought about Gira being the one pushing up the pyxxy wagon?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:15 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:13 pm but yeah no, not entertaining WWA paranoia, they're almost definitely the NK, or at least were up until EoD hit
This is exactly why I don't do the "be towny" thing in most games anymore, it just gets me killed regardless of my reads lol
And most of the time I don't want to die early xD

one of us, one of us. Please if you ever want to see me be a BOSS of a scummy town to saving the game at the last second go read KOTH. So proud of that game and its exactly this mentality. I got fear killed n1 for 3 months after that game

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:12 pm Ah, the thread came alive, nice, nice, .

lol at rondo calling me a mother$%#!er for saying i would vote him over dizzy if forced. Its not my fault dizzy's just that polarized, but yeah, one can argue which of them was more likely to save themselves from being chopped.

Thankfully its $%#!ing irrelevant now, thank $%#!.

I really thought you were in my corner so it felt like a betrayal ngl. Bring back tabasco posting tyvm

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