The Syndicate

I should probably ISO Achro

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:47 pm wait so who's doc

hahahaha

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:32 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:28 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:25 pm Ok, sorry to anyone who doesn't agree with this, but Nook is doc. And if he isn't, he should say so, and I'll retract my vote and start over
your suspicion is understandable and normal. But it does raise you up in my POE because I am the obvious push after Sabi flips because then you are going after the real doctor and that doesnt look good for you
If you are actually doc, you don't have anything to worry about lol. Then I'm just wasting my time talking to you

Not worried at all unless you are wolf trying to take advantage of the flip last night

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:25 pm Ok, sorry to anyone who doesn't agree with this, but Nook is doc. And if he isn't, he should say so, and I'll retract my vote and start over

your suspicion is understandable and normal. But it does raise you up in my POE because I am the obvious push after Sabi flips because then you are going after the real doctor and that doesnt look good for you

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:16 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:12 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:09 pm It's anti-town to hold onto a doc claim because you think your reads are correct at this point in the game btw
So who is the real doc in your pov?
They can claim themselves, but they've been obvious since D2 in my mind. If I'm right you can start backtracking now

not going to. I dont care if you think someone else is Doc. I faked that I was going to doc Mac last night and Holstered again so I am going to Doc Mac again and I am actually going to have to do it because I cant risk they wont believe me crying wolf again

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:09 pm It's anti-town to hold onto a doc claim because you think your reads are correct at this point in the game btw

So who is the real doc in your pov?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:04 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:03 pm Anyway, can we stop pretending we don't know who the doc is now?

I read Wilgy's iso, pretty sure he's town. Read Ender's iso, very sure he's town. I think it's just Rondo
You got me, I [REDACTED]

EBWOP

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:03 pm Anyway, can we stop pretending we don't know who the doc is now?

I read Wilgy's iso, pretty sure he's town. Read Ender's iso, very sure he's town. I think it's just Rondo

You got me, I concede

HAHAHAAHHAHA, They thought Sabi was doc

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:07 am It never makes sense to chop Wilgy tbh. Nanook is either town with a godread or mafia with TMI. Wilgy is an objectively bad chop through Nanook.

Can Nanook be wrong? Yes 1 in 6 times.

It's bad probability play. Either Nanook is a wolf with TMI or his read should be acknowledged. Anyone suspicious of Wilgy and not Nanook would need to have a seriously strong argument for why Nanook is wrong.

I was waiting for this

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:01 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:00 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:55 am Imagine being able to pocket a single person, even as town.
Couldn't be me apparently.
Pocketing people as town is the best tbh.
no one wants me this game lol x)

You know I have been pretty neutral on you and have been fine with just kinda accepting your as Towny but as deadline approaches you get more and more atey

[VOTE: Achro ] aubergine

Also just some assistance to anyone isoing me tomorrow. D1 is chaos posting D2 is protect Mac chaos posting and d3 is tinfoil mac to catch wolf till I revealed and then back to chaos posting

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:34 am My tinfoil is on dizzy until she flips

I don't blame you we have a strong lineup

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:28 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:28 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:25 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:22 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:19 am Dizzy fooled a lot people when I played with her when she was a wolfu. That's why I can't trust her. She knows how to pocket
Paranoia is only good in moderate doses. Don't overdose.
She's not out of her wolf range hence why I don't get why you are hard shielding her
Both ender and dizzy can't be wolf and it's totally possible both are town
I'm not saying he is wolfu protecting her. I'm saying she pocketed ender

See the problem I have with this thought is if dizzy is pocketing that means ender is town and I rate his read on dizzy as town too high to ignore it so the point is moot.

I tinfoil anyone at this point except Mac because everyone is doing a great job looking town

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME who should I vote for that isn't Achro?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:25 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:22 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:19 am Dizzy fooled a lot people when I played with her when she was a wolfu. That's why I can't trust her. She knows how to pocket
Paranoia is only good in moderate doses. Don't overdose.
She's not out of her wolf range hence why I don't get why you are hard shielding her

Both ender and dizzy can't be wolf and it's totally possible both are town

Also another reminder that ties are literally a 50/50 flip no wolf choice

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:14 am Compulsive writing feh
Hands are off

you need to call the vote with tags or it wont count at EOD

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:00 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:56 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:55 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:52 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:49 am What? You think I'm lying too?
If you lie too what does that make the answer?
what makes you think I am accusing you of lying?
Nothing. I just asked.
Ooookay then, back to Achro
doesnt look like nothing, seems like a serious question. Like you legitimately think I think you are a liar and I am accusing you of lying and you are feeling defensive about it. Now you are playing it off as nothing
Yes I play it off as nothing because we have enough to go off this game that no one should have a legitimate reason to think I'm mafia from the way I went about this game and esp. tommy and Porscha
And I can lie as town too once that's established, so you can have a legitimate reason to think I'm a liar.

do not like this

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:55 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:52 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:49 am What? You think I'm lying too?
If you lie too what does that make the answer?
what makes you think I am accusing you of lying?
Nothing. I just asked.
Ooookay then, back to Achro

doesnt look like nothing, seems like a serious question. Like you legitimately think I think you are a liar and I am accusing you of lying and you are feeling defensive about it. Now you are playing it off as nothing

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:49 am What? You think I'm lying too?
If you lie too what does that make the answer?

what makes you think I am accusing you of lying?

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:36 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:29 am Btw vivax you may have answered but what is the policy in the policy lynch of me

@Vivax
That I thought there was an expectation that you also play to withhold information as town and lie?
Like Rondo has been described.
So that makes you tricky to townread while you're lying, but at some point you get used to it.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:19 am I don't know how that solves with 1 wolf left but hey.

Also I am so out of my wolf range this game lol x) i can only do this once please don't mislynch me again when I am more chill in my next game

not tomorrow but maybe the next day

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:08 am Rebellion Against Nanook Reads.

RANR.

Nah I just think consolidating wagons will help people solve tomorrow. And not just having Achro go over with everyone on him is a good thing

[VOTE: Wigly ] aubergine

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:49 am Any questions for me before I self vote? Game isn't ending btw don't get your hopes up.

instead of self voting vote for the mafia

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:42 am But also I just don't think Dizzy wolf makes the hellbus routine play before anyone but Tommy had received fire.

all fair points

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:55 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:03 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:59 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:58 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:15 am I had a thought this morning. What are people’s non-Tommy related thoughts on Rondo? What is to say that Tommy just didn’t know or remembered Rondo’s name even if they were teammates. He was completely new to the site and barely posting

I remember Rondo being weird about voting Porscha on D1. Will check that later after work unless someone else feels compelled
Fair thought but Rondo is the doc uncounterclaimed lol.
Oh lol. I haven’t really read this game day
cant tell if this is suspicious or not
The suspiciousest

suspic'nt

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:50 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:00 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:26 am Reading Mac's self eval was interesting. I have noticed that he's extremely fast at times, but maybe it's familiarity with the players.

I think that strategy wise on D1 town profits from TvT clinches and scummy looking townies in general. It's up to wolves if they make anything out of it, but usually they do try to stay out of it in my experience. Thread noise and those blending into it I guess.

Sometimes there's also moments where someone pops in and starts posting and you glimpse something of their alignment without realizing why. Strange phenomenons and all. Or perceive a mood remotely just cause you're looking at the same thing as other ones. Maybe I'm imagining it, but it's a nice thought to have.
You’re adorable tbh
Thanks!

I find you really hard to read from tone on reread. Kinda aloof in the first pages.
You voted both red flips right off the bat, how did you pull that off?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:18 am Actually I probably shouldn't vote someone I haven't played with rn

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Because lack of impression or something

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:15 am [VOTE: Tommy] aubergine

Thread flow or he's frozen or whatever

@EnderWiggin are you still hard shielding?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:49 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:44 am I know I'm not as familiar with this game as everyone else, that's why I'm trying to play more of a support role and merely suggesting things / bringing stuff up instead of trying to force anything.
I would honestly be interested in your ISOing of each person and getting your vibe from them if you have the energy. Even if you just skim

Except for Mac and Me, dont bother on that

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:44 am I know I'm not as familiar with this game as everyone else, that's why I'm trying to play more of a support role and merely suggesting things / bringing stuff up instead of trying to force anything.

I would honestly be interested in your ISOing of each person and getting your vibe from them if you have the energy. Even if you just skim

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:31 am Fwiw I agree with Sabi in that Dizzy needs to be considered, but I'm also someone who only read 15 pages of this game and there's supposedly clearing stuff for Dizzy later in the game? I didn't find anything like that on the first 15 pages, but OK I guess?

I'm generally OK with Mac's POE but I'd genuinely kill Dizzy over Wilgy from what I've read.

If you want to call a vote on anyone youll have to ISO and point out why instead of just saying "can we do x?" otherwise itll just be whatever vibes you are feeling at the time and not really any considered point of view fmpov

not trying to be rude just conscious that you dont know the game more than 15 pages and I am not sure if you even know anyone here more than just this game because I havent seen you around

[VOTE: Dizzy ] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:59 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:58 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:15 am I had a thought this morning. What are people’s non-Tommy related thoughts on Rondo? What is to say that Tommy just didn’t know or remembered Rondo’s name even if they were teammates. He was completely new to the site and barely posting

I remember Rondo being weird about voting Porscha on D1. Will check that later after work unless someone else feels compelled
Fair thought but Rondo is the doc uncounterclaimed lol.
Oh lol. I haven’t really read this game day

cant tell if this is suspicious or not

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:58 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:15 am I had a thought this morning. What are people’s non-Tommy related thoughts on Rondo? What is to say that Tommy just didn’t know or remembered Rondo’s name even if they were teammates. He was completely new to the site and barely posting

I remember Rondo being weird about voting Porscha on D1. Will check that later after work unless someone else feels compelled
Fair thought but Rondo is the doc uncounterclaimed lol.

Im dead tonight so no point thinking about me

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:28 am Rondor, Rondor, why art thou Rondor?

Denying my father and refuse his name; also if I will it, I shall be sworn your love and I shall no longer be a Dimbuckle.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:23 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:46 am Ender can you say "I'm Human"?
I'm xeno scum.

BURN XENOS FILTH [VOTE: FORTHEEMPEROR ] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:15 am I had a thought this morning. What are people’s non-Tommy related thoughts on Rondo? What is to say that Tommy just didn’t know or remembered Rondo’s name even if they were teammates. He was completely new to the site and barely posting

I remember Rondo being weird about voting Porscha on D1. Will check that later after work unless someone else feels compelled

what was weird about it?

Ender can you say "I'm Human"?

Or Lucy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:44 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:43 am [VOTE: ssf ] aubergine
Vulgard wasn't townie enough for you?

Yeah I just dont want to slam on Achro and put him closer. If you care about my actual tinfoil its Vivex

[VOTE: ssf ] aubergine

[VOTE: Ender Wiggin ] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:37 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:17 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:03 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:48 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 pm

Lmao.
Why is that funny?
Because I disagree that it indicates you can read me. You are someone I worry about as wolf because I near guarantee you'll find a way to sus me. Not because you catch me, but because "Mac susses Ender" is a fact of life if you and I are alive past D1. And sometimes even on D1.

I factor this in every time I'm town with you too.

I can't guarantee I'm 100% correct because this is memory and memory is subjective and I'd have to trawl through multiple games to see if you do actually wean yourself off it when we're both town but memory says you rarely end up townreading me no matter what my alignment is.
You have this impression because I'm often dead before I have a chance to reeval. But how many times have you been town in a game where I was town and I caused your mischop?
I can remember your sus of me causing my death after you died already, but honestly I don't remember particular times you've mischopped me.
*Cough, Cough* >_> | <_< | >_>
Is this you saying you remember a time I was flipped incorrectly when Mac was alive?

oh no, as a result of mac not trusting you

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:52 pm do we have four chops?

if so

achro
ender
Wilgy
Nook

should win the game...

I have so much tinfoil to go around but its a good place to start I guess

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:03 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:48 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:38 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:33 pm

Are you really going to force me to find all the times I use it as town to just shut this point up?

You also see me use it as mafia Because I use it as town nearly every game.
You ignore the fact that results indicate I can read you. I scumread you by default as part of the process but generally if I'm still scumreading you at this stage of the game I'm right about it. Context matters.
Lmao.
Why is that funny?
Because I disagree that it indicates you can read me. You are someone I worry about as wolf because I near guarantee you'll find a way to sus me. Not because you catch me, but because "Mac susses Ender" is a fact of life if you and I are alive past D1. And sometimes even on D1.

I factor this in every time I'm town with you too.

I can't guarantee I'm 100% correct because this is memory and memory is subjective and I'd have to trawl through multiple games to see if you do actually wean yourself off it when we're both town but memory says you rarely end up townreading me no matter what my alignment is.
You have this impression because I'm often dead before I have a chance to reeval. But how many times have you been town in a game where I was town and I caused your mischop?
I can remember your sus of me causing my death after you died already, but honestly I don't remember particular times you've mischopped me.

*Cough, Cough* >_> | <_< | >_>

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:52 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:47 pm I am actually really okay with being called scum as town because it is novel for me and it gives me a chance to practice being on the backfoot for when I am scum.

Now other things that sometimes go along with being pushed grate me, but suspicion is oft a compliment.
I find that people who suspect me are >rand mafia and dunking on wolves is enjoyable to me so I often find myself being mean to people who suspect me because the idea of wolves flailing about trying to get town Mac over amuses me and inspires me to mock.

But then when it's a town doing it they get upset because it hurts being mocked when you're trying hard and earnestly and doesn't really hurt being mocked when you're being a lame wolf.

I actually have a pretty good flow chart for reaction reading how people deal with my snarky reactions to being sussed. A lot of my skill in mafia stems from having expectations for how people deal with the things I do and forcing myself into prominence so people have no choice but to have to. I'm like a mafia tsunami lol.

I am just a level -1 goober

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:39 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:38 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:35 pm Look, honestly I don't care, I feel like I should actually be clearable today based on how I treated both partners and EOD2 but if Mac can't keep it in his pants just literally follow up by voting out Wilgy and I'm good.
See I hated your day 1 but I know that you could just have been [REDACTED]

Your day 2 was stronger but you had to selfpres Porcha

If you really did suspect me of being doc its a clear but there is no way to verify that information
I didn't think you were doc, I thought it was Sabi.

That's obvious if you read my D2 and I mystery clear Sabi for ? reasons and put down "Reasons.tm"
Ohh her over rage ate mega hissyfit at possibly going over (I am being hyperbolic )

Now I understand why people think Sabi is doc
First you said I had a stick up my ass and. That I'm a child and now this.

Really rude

I said hyperbolic, you cant deny you got angry yesterday

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:39 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:38 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:35 pm Look, honestly I don't care, I feel like I should actually be clearable today based on how I treated both partners and EOD2 but if Mac can't keep it in his pants just literally follow up by voting out Wilgy and I'm good.
See I hated your day 1 but I know that you could just have been [REDACTED]

Your day 2 was stronger but you had to selfpres Porcha

If you really did suspect me of being doc its a clear but there is no way to verify that information
I didn't think you were doc, I thought it was Sabi.

That's obvious if you read my D2 and I mystery clear Sabi for ? reasons and put down "Reasons.tm"
Ohh Sabi's over rage ate mega hissyfit at possibly going over (I am being hyperbolic )

Now I understand why people think Sabi is doc

EBWOP

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