The Syndicate

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:50 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:22 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:14 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:14 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:07 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:59 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:54 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:45 pm [VOTE: sig ] aubergine

Moved off falcon why?

Yeah, why?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:54 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:45 pm [VOTE: sig ] aubergine

Moved off falcon why?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:38 pm Switching to falcon to get that three way tie going on.

3 tied wagons doesnt help town

But, now were just at a two way tie. If you think Falcon is mafia wouldn't it be better to leave it and see what happens?

or 3 mafia can sit on 3 tied wagons knowing that the one tie breaker is a town getting hit.

Yea that's my other thought.

What are you thinking about ruri and Poison process of elimination really only leaves them. Assuming we believe all claims and just blind faith Tuutuu/Alison

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:14 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:07 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:59 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:54 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:45 pm [VOTE: sig ] aubergine

Moved off falcon why?

Yeah, why?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:54 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:45 pm [VOTE: sig ] aubergine

Moved off falcon why?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:38 pm Switching to falcon to get that three way tie going on.

3 tied wagons doesnt help town

But, now were just at a two way tie. If you think Falcon is mafia wouldn't it be better to leave it and see what happens?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:59 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:54 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:45 pm [VOTE: sig ] aubergine

Moved off falcon why?

Yeah, why?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:54 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:45 pm [VOTE: sig ] aubergine

Moved off falcon why?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:38 pm Switching to falcon to get that three way tie going on.

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:16 pm @RondoDimBuckle you are flipping your votes I see, are you not bothered with the wagons, anyone getting lynched is fine for you? Or are you scum reading both falcon and Ruri and want to lynch them

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:12 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:52 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:27 pm I started to doubt rondo too a bit. I didn't like the post tutuu flip rondo reaction

this is where you slow roll your town read on me switching to wolf

Oh no, I'm the prayer who scum read and tunnled another player for 7 days before and town reads on the 8th amd hammers someone else in f3 and loses the game.



Dw I'll shock you with my sudden read change. But are you triggered that I don't like a single reaction from you?

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:27 pm I started to doubt rondo too a bit. I didn't like the post tutuu flip rondo reaction

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:33 am So we're basically at this point.

TSP is a solid civ read for me
Wilgy would be next followed up by Nanook.
BoKnows is going to die tonight anyway so Ignoring him.
Made claimed stump awhile back, which most people believed and he was generally read as town by alot of the town people. This makes me hesitant to flip him at this stage in the game.

Leaving ruri, Poison, Falcon, and Rondo.

If Falcon is wolf he's playing a totally different game than his normal wolf one. So if you take him out that gives us Ruri, Poison and rondo in the pool.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:14 am FALCON

Falcon leads with some fluff and a comment on how a Rondo post was dirty.

First post of value below. Within the fluff magic 8 ball says 'it is certain on 112 or MR being scum.' followed by an explanation on the magic 8 ball results. I don't think I'd have seen this as anything other than fluff if it wasn't for the explanation. Did Falcon feel the need to explain away knowing MR certainly being scum?

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:41 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:32 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:30 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:28 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:26 am

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:23 am @112 @Master Radishes @falcon45ca

odds all of us are town? low I think

Hold on, I shall consult my Magic 8 Ball..."As I see it, yes". WTF?

Interesting. Falcon you scum?

Hold on, I shall once again consult my Magic 8 Ball..."My reply is no."

Kk.
!
Then there's a wolf in 112 or MR yes?

The question itself makes me think that KZA isn't the one.

Hold on, I shall...you guessed it! consult my Magic 8 Ball once more! "It is certain."



BTW, I don't actually have a Magic 8 Ball, but the internet does


https://www.magicball8.com/response

Falcon's progression on DK seems fair:

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:50 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:40 pm "you are using a lot of AtE" - NAI, useless point

"avoiding posting about your reads" - misrep, I do post reads, I just dont like readlists because they are largely useless content on demand.

"using mac's read to remove pressure" - my guy that is ~not~ a good reason to fos me. i only mentioned it once in passing and you are treating me like I continuously shove it in people's face.

The first part I disagree.

The second, fine if that's how you play, I'll accept that.

The third part, do you stand behind Mac's read on you as a reason to town read you?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:08 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:57 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:56 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:51 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:50 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:40 pm "you are using a lot of AtE" - NAI, useless point

"avoiding posting about your reads" - misrep, I do post reads, I just dont like readlists because they are largely useless content on demand.

"using mac's read to remove pressure" - my guy that is ~not~ a good reason to fos me. i only mentioned it once in passing and you are treating me like I continuously shove it in people's face.

The first part I disagree.

The second, fine if that's how you play, I'll accept that.

The third part, do you stand behind Mac's read on you as a reason to town read you?

prove that AtE is scum indicative for me.

Well, let's see your flip!


What's the answer to my question re: Mac's read on you? Do you feel you should be town read because he does?

yes, because an IC of his level should have their townreads respected. you should perhaps actually read the game instead of just clicking notifs because I did post this in a recent post.

Yeah, I'm fine voting for you.


Piggy backing off Mac's town status isn't towny IMO.

A notable interaction with 112. Slightly sheeping MAC while providing own input. Interesting that if Scum, Falcon wouldn't have know 112's 3p color and likely would've expected a green.

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:16 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:09 pm I believe 112 is town tbh. What you are pushing him for is town indicative for 112.

Do you not think that metas can be faked if you know your meta?

112s a better wolf than that. What are you pushing him for is NAI from her

Falcon rule of 3'd here:

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:15 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:33 am @falcon45ca who do you think is mafia?

Fucked if I know.


I'm fine with lynching DK, MR, Ender right now

at this point, Falcon had not interacted with MR or Ender, and rather fluffposted. The only real chain of progression we had seen from Falcon was DK.


Falcon shade towards MR but left open ended:

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:47 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:43 pm The no kill is nice but I am currently doubting everything I think I know.

Spicy. What new ideas inspire you?


Cuz this kind of attitude isn't what I normally expect from towny MR...you mention BK, any other takes?

Day 3, Falcon put some energy into the MR counter wagon

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:59 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:24 pm Okay I gave up reading Ender's wall.

As far as I can tell @EnderWiggin you don't like I'm hedgey. Well...too bad? Like I'm not a Mac or Tutuu who confidently and abrasively overstates reads. I hesitate on everything because I always find counterarguments to myself.

You pulled up one game of meta to compare and not only did it contain equally hedgey posts which you seem to ignore or underweigh, but that's a small sample size. I can link you games of other town games of mine if you want and you can see the same thing.

You also point out I don't show progression on reads, like Scotty I think it was. Again, yeah, no, I don't. Not D1 anyway. Like sometimes I will of course, if I find a strong town or scumread. But I don't play D1s very seriously and mostly just let things unfold in their own right and let my impressions swirl together in my head. I don't state everything in thread.

A lot of this is predicated on my activity/presence level imo, even if you don't outright state it is. I struggled to get into this game because it was so active and I just...don't have time in my life to dedicate to such a high intensity game. I work, I have a wife who needs attention and feeding, I have things to do. I play in snippets, like 30 mins in the morning, 30 mins after work before I make dinner, an hour after my wife falls asleep, etc. (The one exception was Tuesday, and you'll notice my activity spike in my iso then I bet.) I can't keep up right now in a game like this, not properly anyway. I can't read everything and everyone and make solid reads and give insightful takes. I do best when I'm in sync with the threadstate and outside of one moment D2 where I felt like I was finally vibing with a few people, I'm still finding this roster too large to get a firm grasp of everything going on.

D3, now, for instance - this is the first moment in 24 hours since the round began I've been able to devote time to it. I've missed 800 posts and now am playing catch up. And as soon as I am done this post I'm going to get ready for bed, do some other stuff I need to do (flavour on MU; for integrity reasons won't say more), and watch a show with my wife. And I'll wake up tomorrow and again be behind and then go to work etc.

This turned into a bit of a rant and I should probably edit that down but don't have time to. Basically I think your concerns about me are steeped more or less in 'he's not here/doing enough/showing his every thought' and yeah, no, I'm not. That does not make me scum.

Do you & the missus watch Downton Abbey? I just started and now that's how I hear your posts.

[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

I'll give you some space for now.

Day 4 was nothing but fluff and a Rondo Vote

Day 5 we actually got momentum out of him, but most of it was picking up on the Epi case, and shading me for shading him.

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:55 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:28 am Back on [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine.

That's the correct answer today.

If I die, I lose. Sucks, but I'll put a notch in my belt if the civilians win this one. Please kill Wilgy. He called me innocent and I'm independent. That's bullshit. What host does that?

Oh snap!


[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:18 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:01 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:57 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:54 pm Some explain where Falcon's civ equity comes from?

Since you've been calling me scum for quite awhile now, I find it interesting you haven't investigated me

I don't believe I've called you scum. More so a portion of the POE I think would be best to deal with. I do not have the energy to read your ISO at the moment, so inquiry with others is how I must proceed.

You've been calling for my lynch and voting for me since August dude. Why are you hedging on calling me scum? Do you usually vote for player's you think are town?

Hedging because I'm not 100% on you being scum. It's more like a 67%. References to you in the past was me hoping to gain insight and to see why in spite of PoE, there never seemed to be a strong push towards your yeet.

No one would bring up the Falcon placements in my PoE plus it feels like you are perpetually a small blip on everyone's radar. Not big enough to attract attention, but there. Why is this the case?

Wait, so you said you haven't called me scum, but you're also 67% sure I'm scum and you've been voting for me for several RDs....now you want me to tell you why I'm a small blip on other people's radar...


Again, if I'm a part of your POE, I find it very hard to believe you've not bothered to investigate me. Or cared to find out from the host how your ability works with 3Ps.



Yeah, I'm fine with your flip today

I'm ending here as there's not much else.

So something to note at this point, the only opinions that I've found of Falcon thinking someone is wolf are DK, a fickle MR vote, Me and Rondo. Falcon believed 112 to be civ.

There's nothing else. Questions that lead nowhere. Fluffy fluff galore. Plus in spite of the MR vote, they moved off it when MR was actually gaining traction.


Falcon via MR

Not much, MR had a 'scum read' on Falcon, but it was so wishy washy that I'm unable to tell genuine shade or not:

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Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:21 am Falcon may be scum. That last post did not sit well with me.

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But uh huge grain of salt here. I've mis-read him twice in a row this month. (Or to be clear the second time I was mafia so it wasn't a misread, but he was being conventionally wolfy and other town chopped him with little help needed from me except voicing my support. I definitely would've misread him had I been town.) I think he's not really been tryharding much in games lately and it's leading him to do standard scummy stuff even as town because he's just not really paying attention or something.

Sorry if this is insulting Falc.

Conclusion, Falcon yeet is fine. I feel like there'd be more to work with here if Falcon was pro town. The move off of MR doesn't sit right, and the hard opinions and opposition towards me only picking up once I start actually eyeballing the bird screams somethin, not sure what though. Can see team interactions with MR, but they aren't screaming or anything.

The questions leading no where constantly gets me. A look of questioning is nice, but where are the conclusions? I think this is why I'm often misyeeted, so I get it, but perhaps I'll be the misyeeter this time? Not sure. Seems scummy, like wanting the appearance of trying to deduce.

Ruri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:11 am [VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

For now.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:32 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:30 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:26 am I still don't really think this game is hard tbh, i think if we kill ruri/falcon/made/bo we win like 90% of the time

objectively what are the chances you are scum?

Whatever rand is for this game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:26 am I still don't really think this game is hard tbh, i think if we kill ruri/falcon/made/bo we win like 90% of the time

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RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:51 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:59 pm IMPORTANT POST, CLICK THRU ALL OF THE SPOILERS

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Im hiding these under spoilers so its hard to read so people cant unvote me at the last second

Im a vengeful townie. When I get chopped I can kill someone who was on my wagon (and stayed there at the end). The death is instant, so if they survive, they got a BP vest.

Im not feeling confident making a shot to kill mafia. I am going to kill epi because he is not town and he has been playing anti-town. I don’t give a fuck if he can win with town. He picked the wrong bitch to mess with. If he wanted to win with town then he should have actually helped town, not hurt it.

If I had bigger balls I would have shot TSP or sig but I just don't have them bro. If they are town and I throw the game I'd legit cry IRL.

If Epi unvotes me at the last second, I will shoot Falcon. If Falcon is also not available, I will shoot Ruri. If Ruri is not available, I will shoot Made. If Made is not available, I will shoot Wilgy. If Wilgy is not available, I will shoot TSP. If not, Sig. Then Nanook. Then Poison. Should be enough names.

Radishes visited me n1. I think it is very likely I was rolecopped and Mafia has known my role since day 2. Role copping me makes sense, I was playing chill, Mafia could have thought I was an important PR or 3p.

Listen, look at the people who have AVOIDED being on my wagon at eod. If I’m right that Mafia has known my role all this time, those people are more scummy than those on my wagon. Because they wanted to avoid getting shot. That's another reason why I'm not going to try to make a shot to kill Mafia. I think Mafia might be prepared for this and not make themselves an easy target for my bullet. Unless TSP and sig are just ballsy. I don't know man lol....

If someone unvotes me at the last second – THEY ARE OUTED MAFIA. KILL THEIR BITCH ASS

If not – still, do consider that the people avoiding to vote me look more scummy. I'm looking at falcon.

I say this, and yet I still scumread TSP and sig even tho they are on my wagon. I dunno lmao.

I think that sig and therefore TSP is mafia. There is just no other answer. Unless one or multiple of the dead villagers were wrong. Mac scumread sig and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Made is town because his claim his towny, and Alison townread him and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Falcon is mafia. Scotty made a good case on him. Disregard the dead villagers saying falcon is town. We shouldn’t sheep dead villagers, they’re dead coz they’re bad.

I think that Ruri is town because Michelle was very convinced she was town and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Nanook is town because of his independent push on Epi earlier this game, the way he pushed me now, risking getting his ass shot if he knew my role (so he probably didn’t know my role?). Alison also townread Nanook and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Wilgy is town because his claim elaborated not-a-threat on his result BEFORE we got a flipped 3p. I think it’s too wild for scum!wilgy to not know there is a 3p and still go with it. That is unless he is Mafia and knew there was 3p due to maybe Radishes rolecopping 112 N2 which he did. I don’t know.

I think Rondo is town because he is peeked town. But in every other way he feels like a wolf. But he is peeked town so idk.

I think that Poison is town because … she just seems innocent idk. I don’t see a team that she fits with.

Once again, elaborating on the poison kills since a lot of yall are allergic to reading

112 forced me to take a wish. I successfully protected Scotty on N3. I successfully “killed” BoKnows n4 (which ended up being a poison, I did not know that it would be a poison). Both of these were wishes from 112.

I did not poison Michelle and Ender. 112 is responsible, either directly or indirectly for their deaths, I think.

There is no Mafia poisoner, I think.

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

Just a reminder of what tutuu has said

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

to address my being off tutuu is two fold, towards the end I saw too many people on her wagon which changed my mind about her being scum, so I formed a counter wagon with her on falcon in case there was anyone who wanted to pivot.

Falcon and Made were on Epi, is there equity that they are both wolves and trying to yeet each other for credit? They would both want to get Epi out of the game if they were mafia and he is a 3p that could win with town.

Ruri and Wiggly were on TSP, has anyone noted their interactions in the past to each other and to TSP and if that makes sense?

Bo/Syn was pretty quiet yesterday and I believe in anti spew mode considering Tutuu has flipped town it is likely they flip wolf since we are in a target rich environment.

Also the fact that Ruri, wiggly, falcon and made were all on effectively vanity wagons (I dont consider mine a vanity wagon because Tutuu was a confirmed town and falcon is being scummy, but hey it could be if you wanted to call it one) does not look good.

Wdym tutuu was a confirmed town?

she ded, flip town

I mean yes, but she wasn't a confirmed town until she flipped so she wasn't "was" confirmed town.

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:19 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:18 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:53 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm to address my being off tutuu is two fold, towards the end I saw too many people on her wagon which changed my mind about her being scum, so I formed a counter wagon with her on falcon in case there was anyone who wanted to pivot

why are you explaining this when not questioned ? is it because Tutuu called out people who didn't want to be on her wagon cause she feared mafia would know she is vengeful and wouldn't dare to be there?

Because unlike some people I like to get out ahead of things that look scummy so that someone else cant use it against me instead of hoping people dont see it

I townread you sir, but that getting ahead seemed scummy. Don't confuse me.... This game is already weird.

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tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:59 pm IMPORTANT POST, CLICK THRU ALL OF THE SPOILERS

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Im hiding these under spoilers so its hard to read so people cant unvote me at the last second

Im a vengeful townie. When I get chopped I can kill someone who was on my wagon (and stayed there at the end). The death is instant, so if they survive, they got a BP vest.

Im not feeling confident making a shot to kill mafia. I am going to kill epi because he is not town and he has been playing anti-town. I don’t give a fuck if he can win with town. He picked the wrong bitch to mess with. If he wanted to win with town then he should have actually helped town, not hurt it.

If I had bigger balls I would have shot TSP or sig but I just don't have them bro. If they are town and I throw the game I'd legit cry IRL.

If Epi unvotes me at the last second, I will shoot Falcon. If Falcon is also not available, I will shoot Ruri. If Ruri is not available, I will shoot Made. If Made is not available, I will shoot Wilgy. If Wilgy is not available, I will shoot TSP. If not, Sig. Then Nanook. Then Poison. Should be enough names.

Radishes visited me n1. I think it is very likely I was rolecopped and Mafia has known my role since day 2. Role copping me makes sense, I was playing chill, Mafia could have thought I was an important PR or 3p.

Listen, look at the people who have AVOIDED being on my wagon at eod. If I’m right that Mafia has known my role all this time, those people are more scummy than those on my wagon. Because they wanted to avoid getting shot. That's another reason why I'm not going to try to make a shot to kill Mafia. I think Mafia might be prepared for this and not make themselves an easy target for my bullet. Unless TSP and sig are just ballsy. I don't know man lol....

If someone unvotes me at the last second – THEY ARE OUTED MAFIA. KILL THEIR BITCH ASS

If not – still, do consider that the people avoiding to vote me look more scummy. I'm looking at falcon.

I say this, and yet I still scumread TSP and sig even tho they are on my wagon. I dunno lmao.

I think that sig and therefore TSP is mafia. There is just no other answer. Unless one or multiple of the dead villagers were wrong. Mac scumread sig and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Made is town because his claim his towny, and Alison townread him and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Falcon is mafia. Scotty made a good case on him. Disregard the dead villagers saying falcon is town. We shouldn’t sheep dead villagers, they’re dead coz they’re bad.

I think that Ruri is town because Michelle was very convinced she was town and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Nanook is town because of his independent push on Epi earlier this game, the way he pushed me now, risking getting his ass shot if he knew my role (so he probably didn’t know my role?). Alison also townread Nanook and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Wilgy is town because his claim elaborated not-a-threat on his result BEFORE we got a flipped 3p. I think it’s too wild for scum!wilgy to not know there is a 3p and still go with it. That is unless he is Mafia and knew there was 3p due to maybe Radishes rolecopping 112 N2 which he did. I don’t know.

I think Rondo is town because he is peeked town. But in every other way he feels like a wolf. But he is peeked town so idk.

I think that Poison is town because … she just seems innocent idk. I don’t see a team that she fits with.

Once again, elaborating on the poison kills since a lot of yall are allergic to reading

112 forced me to take a wish. I successfully protected Scotty on N3. I successfully “killed” BoKnows n4 (which ended up being a poison, I did not know that it would be a poison). Both of these were wishes from 112.

I did not poison Michelle and Ender. 112 is responsible, either directly or indirectly for their deaths, I think.

There is no Mafia poisoner, I think.

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

Just a reminder of what tutuu has said

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

to address my being off tutuu is two fold, towards the end I saw too many people on her wagon which changed my mind about her being scum, so I formed a counter wagon with her on falcon in case there was anyone who wanted to pivot.

Falcon and Made were on Epi, is there equity that they are both wolves and trying to yeet each other for credit? They would both want to get Epi out of the game if they were mafia and he is a 3p that could win with town.

Ruri and Wiggly were on TSP, has anyone noted their interactions in the past to each other and to TSP and if that makes sense?

Bo/Syn was pretty quiet yesterday and I believe in anti spew mode considering Tutuu has flipped town it is likely they flip wolf since we are in a target rich environment.

Also the fact that Ruri, wiggly, falcon and made were all on effectively vanity wagons (I dont consider mine a vanity wagon because Tutuu was a confirmed town and falcon is being scummy, but hey it could be if you wanted to call it one) does not look good.

Wdym tutuu was a confirmed town?

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:53 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm to address my being off tutuu is two fold, towards the end I saw too many people on her wagon which changed my mind about her being scum, so I formed a counter wagon with her on falcon in case there was anyone who wanted to pivot

why are you explaining this when not questioned ? is it because Tutuu called out people who didn't want to be on her wagon cause she feared mafia would know she is vengeful and wouldn't dare to be there?

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:48 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:14 pm Theoretically Bo goes splat today.

Wouldn't yeet:
Rondo, Sig, TSP

Yeetable:
Falcon, Made, Nook, Poison, Ruri.

What fun.

if wiggly flips red, I would say: one of
Wouldn't yeet:
Rondo, Sig, TSP

And one/two of:
Yeetable:
Falcon, Made, Nook, Poison, Ruri.

I dont have any preferences except for maybe falcon

it makes sense that you'd not want to yeet yourself, but why not tsp/sig if wilgy flips red?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:01 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:32 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:03 pm And if you do think it's solid, What do you think of the votes on me?

nanook I could see as town/3p/wolf but leaning lower town. TSP has been wanted by Alison and Tutuu and Scotty I think so I am ok with him being yeeted but not before I do ISOing tomorrow

Killing tsp is incorrect

Wilgy claims non threat on sig, sig and tsp mutually confirm each other, so tsp only mafia if sig and wilgy both mafia too

So tsp never gets flipped today, if you think we're in that world the correct kill is sig

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:12 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:11 pm wait. I just realized.

Wilgy has me town on Mecs and Nanook should know that

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine
@DrWilgy right?

@DrWilgy actually wait, don't answer that

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why are you voting me if I'm mec confirmed town and you already know that?

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:03 pm And if you do think it's solid, What do you think of the votes on me?

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:02 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:01 pm because they read me as town. Even if they are wolf more people reading me town means its a higher likelihood of me being town. I mean everyone could be wrong but wolves could be setting me up for a mislynch later to say "See I told you he was town"

you could be a lylo chop mislynch if you're town. I see it.

Do you not think Alisons case on me was solid?

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:49 pm Hi!!! SO i'm drinking, and i've never played mafia properly drunkified, so let's have some funnnnnnnnnn


First off, chopping me is just fucking dumb bro, like Alison thought I was town, Scotty thought I was town, and now since they're both gone, I'm weak cuz my homies are gone. I don't know that would be sus of the people who brought me up, but I would be sus of the people who are continuing that train of thought.

I had Falcon town on a gut read from a game I played off-site with him where I was defending him in a similar manner to now. I don't trust myself enough to push there, but I DOOOOO Want to push in the direction of players who have died.

I had tutuu as scum-- but I voted wilgy which wasn't a vanity wagon when I voted, it was a decent look. I currently don't have the brain skills to tell you if he looks better or worse with tutuu being town. tutuu being town actually throws me through quite a loop. I think that based on the fact that she went over so easily, there's a few people on that wagon that were clunky on the pivot there just because the way she was playing was weird, but it make sense cuz she was basically a town joker with extra steps.

I don't trust TSP or Nanoook, their perspective on this game seems soo far off of my own, and scotty's based on what I remember, and he's dead now, so that's probably a good thing. I could go for a Nook chop here. I also think the fact that I keep getting pushed even tho it being me is bizarre af is because scum needs me gone for number reasons, which is a good thing!!!

I have been agnostic on Ruri all game. I'll give that slot a quick read, but before I do....

[VOTE: RondoDahRando] aubergine

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:50 pm The fact that i'm being pushed over synknows is also kinda sus. I feel like town would still be mad curious about that slot in the abstract

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:59 pm IMPORTANT POST, CLICK THRU ALL OF THE SPOILERS

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Im hiding these under spoilers so its hard to read so people cant unvote me at the last second

Im a vengeful townie. When I get chopped I can kill someone who was on my wagon (and stayed there at the end). The death is instant, so if they survive, they got a BP vest.

Im not feeling confident making a shot to kill mafia. I am going to kill epi because he is not town and he has been playing anti-town. I don’t give a fuck if he can win with town. He picked the wrong bitch to mess with. If he wanted to win with town then he should have actually helped town, not hurt it.

If I had bigger balls I would have shot TSP or sig but I just don't have them bro. If they are town and I throw the game I'd legit cry IRL.

If Epi unvotes me at the last second, I will shoot Falcon. If Falcon is also not available, I will shoot Ruri. If Ruri is not available, I will shoot Made. If Made is not available, I will shoot Wilgy. If Wilgy is not available, I will shoot TSP. If not, Sig. Then Nanook. Then Poison. Should be enough names.

Radishes visited me n1. I think it is very likely I was rolecopped and Mafia has known my role since day 2. Role copping me makes sense, I was playing chill, Mafia could have thought I was an important PR or 3p.

Listen, look at the people who have AVOIDED being on my wagon at eod. If I’m right that Mafia has known my role all this time, those people are more scummy than those on my wagon. Because they wanted to avoid getting shot. That's another reason why I'm not going to try to make a shot to kill Mafia. I think Mafia might be prepared for this and not make themselves an easy target for my bullet. Unless TSP and sig are just ballsy. I don't know man lol....

If someone unvotes me at the last second – THEY ARE OUTED MAFIA. KILL THEIR BITCH ASS

If not – still, do consider that the people avoiding to vote me look more scummy. I'm looking at falcon.

I say this, and yet I still scumread TSP and sig even tho they are on my wagon. I dunno lmao.

I think that sig and therefore TSP is mafia. There is just no other answer. Unless one or multiple of the dead villagers were wrong. Mac scumread sig and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Made is town because his claim his towny, and Alison townread him and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Falcon is mafia. Scotty made a good case on him. Disregard the dead villagers saying falcon is town. We shouldn’t sheep dead villagers, they’re dead coz they’re bad.

I think that Ruri is town because Michelle was very convinced she was town and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Nanook is town because of his independent push on Epi earlier this game, the way he pushed me now, risking getting his ass shot if he knew my role (so he probably didn’t know my role?). Alison also townread Nanook and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Wilgy is town because his claim elaborated not-a-threat on his result BEFORE we got a flipped 3p. I think it’s too wild for scum!wilgy to not know there is a 3p and still go with it. That is unless he is Mafia and knew there was 3p due to maybe Radishes rolecopping 112 N2 which he did. I don’t know.

I think Rondo is town because he is peeked town. But in every other way he feels like a wolf. But he is peeked town so idk.

I think that Poison is town because … she just seems innocent idk. I don’t see a team that she fits with.

Once again, elaborating on the poison kills since a lot of yall are allergic to reading

112 forced me to take a wish. I successfully protected Scotty on N3. I successfully “killed” BoKnows n4 (which ended up being a poison, I did not know that it would be a poison). Both of these were wishes from 112.

I did not poison Michelle and Ender. 112 is responsible, either directly or indirectly for their deaths, I think.

There is no Mafia poisoner, I think.

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

Just a reminder of what tutuu has said

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

to address my being off tutuu is two fold, towards the end I saw too many people on her wagon which changed my mind about her being scum, so I formed a counter wagon with her on falcon in case there was anyone who wanted to pivot.

Falcon and Made were on Epi, is there equity that they are both wolves and trying to yeet each other for credit? They would both want to get Epi out of the game if they were mafia and he is a 3p that could win with town.

Ruri and Wiggly were on TSP, has anyone noted their interactions in the past to each other and to TSP and if that makes sense?

Bo/Syn was pretty quiet yesterday and I believe in anti spew mode considering Tutuu has flipped town it is likely they flip wolf since we are in a target rich environment.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm The argument for wilgy being mafia should center around poison also having a check of sorts, him still being alive, and his checks also being alive.

Not a gotcha that requires a lack of basic understanding of wincons and reading comprehension to work

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:59 pm IMPORTANT POST, CLICK THRU ALL OF THE SPOILERS

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Im hiding these under spoilers so its hard to read so people cant unvote me at the last second

Im a vengeful townie. When I get chopped I can kill someone who was on my wagon (and stayed there at the end). The death is instant, so if they survive, they got a BP vest.

Im not feeling confident making a shot to kill mafia. I am going to kill epi because he is not town and he has been playing anti-town. I don’t give a fuck if he can win with town. He picked the wrong bitch to mess with. If he wanted to win with town then he should have actually helped town, not hurt it.

If I had bigger balls I would have shot TSP or sig but I just don't have them bro. If they are town and I throw the game I'd legit cry IRL.

If Epi unvotes me at the last second, I will shoot Falcon. If Falcon is also not available, I will shoot Ruri. If Ruri is not available, I will shoot Made. If Made is not available, I will shoot Wilgy. If Wilgy is not available, I will shoot TSP. If not, Sig. Then Nanook. Then Poison. Should be enough names.

Radishes visited me n1. I think it is very likely I was rolecopped and Mafia has known my role since day 2. Role copping me makes sense, I was playing chill, Mafia could have thought I was an important PR or 3p.

Listen, look at the people who have AVOIDED being on my wagon at eod. If I’m right that Mafia has known my role all this time, those people are more scummy than those on my wagon. Because they wanted to avoid getting shot. That's another reason why I'm not going to try to make a shot to kill Mafia. I think Mafia might be prepared for this and not make themselves an easy target for my bullet. Unless TSP and sig are just ballsy. I don't know man lol....

If someone unvotes me at the last second – THEY ARE OUTED MAFIA. KILL THEIR BITCH ASS

If not – still, do consider that the people avoiding to vote me look more scummy. I'm looking at falcon.

I say this, and yet I still scumread TSP and sig even tho they are on my wagon. I dunno lmao.

I think that sig and therefore TSP is mafia. There is just no other answer. Unless one or multiple of the dead villagers were wrong. Mac scumread sig and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Made is town because his claim his towny, and Alison townread him and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Falcon is mafia. Scotty made a good case on him. Disregard the dead villagers saying falcon is town. We shouldn’t sheep dead villagers, they’re dead coz they’re bad.

I think that Ruri is town because Michelle was very convinced she was town and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Nanook is town because of his independent push on Epi earlier this game, the way he pushed me now, risking getting his ass shot if he knew my role (so he probably didn’t know my role?). Alison also townread Nanook and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Wilgy is town because his claim elaborated not-a-threat on his result BEFORE we got a flipped 3p. I think it’s too wild for scum!wilgy to not know there is a 3p and still go with it. That is unless he is Mafia and knew there was 3p due to maybe Radishes rolecopping 112 N2 which he did. I don’t know.

I think Rondo is town because he is peeked town. But in every other way he feels like a wolf. But he is peeked town so idk.

I think that Poison is town because … she just seems innocent idk. I don’t see a team that she fits with.

Once again, elaborating on the poison kills since a lot of yall are allergic to reading

112 forced me to take a wish. I successfully protected Scotty on N3. I successfully “killed” BoKnows n4 (which ended up being a poison, I did not know that it would be a poison). Both of these were wishes from 112.

I did not poison Michelle and Ender. 112 is responsible, either directly or indirectly for their deaths, I think.

There is no Mafia poisoner, I think.

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:33 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:05 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:59 pm we dont know how jpic designed the game tho bro epi

like u and wilgy could both be telling the truth

jpic could have made it so wilgy receives not a threat to ur role

I parse. It is my profession and my nature.

Wilgy's exact words were "Epi is innocent."

While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead.

I don't think that makes me innocent.

I believe others said Wilgy had a "green peek" on me.

That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?

I don't believe so until Wilgy clarified his claim that he could choose "threat or not a threat" (which isn't the same thing as "innocent").

I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."

I think Wilgy gambled and lost.

Ergo, Wilgy is mafia and should die.

It's that easy.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:32 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:27 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:21 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:17 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:04 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:54 pm In what world is sig a bad check

Its two checks for the price of one

What about the world where Epi (not town aligned according to himself) gets a green check?

Do you think Wilgy is telling the truth about his role? Cuz I don't

You keep saying the same things here. Where is the actual case for me being scum outside of "I don't like the way this info role works?"

Epi was not a threat to town. I do wish that Tutuu saved the shot for someone on the PoE.

A town aligned 3p would've been a good asset.

Epi made it quite clear that he was not town aligned, he was an independent and was a threat to town.

This is incorrect fwiw, or ar least not what he said. He explicitly said his wincon doesn't clash with town's

He said he wasn't a threat to all town, but that certain town had to die in order for him to achieve his wincon. He also said he didn't consider himself a non-threat to town, and that he didn't believe the host would declare him as such either.

He said his wincon was compatible with town's, that's the only relevant piece of information

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:54 pm In what world is sig a bad check

Its two checks for the price of one

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:14 pm Theoretically Bo goes splat today.

Wouldn't yeet:
Rondo, Sig, TSP

Yeetable:
Falcon, Made, Nook, Poison, Ruri.

What fun.

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:30 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:26 am

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:25 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:27 am @Poison @Scotty @Made kill falcon tomorrow ok?

I'll read his iso later tonight.

dont we have 5 hours and 30 minutes till vote?

But I go to sleep like an old man and I am never awake at EoDs. And I'm going for family dinner atm --

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:25 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:27 am @Poison @Scotty @Made kill falcon tomorrow ok?

I'll read his iso later tonight.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:25 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:09 am The thing bout wilgy that made me reconsider is that he claimed a "not a threat" result before we knew there were 3ps

If hes mafia, unless mafia knew that there are 3ps in game by mech, it was his own idea to fake claim that instead of innocent

This was on day 2

Its a really creative thing to think of fake claiming, even i wouldnt think of it and id like to think im creative af as scum

So that was the reason i stopped pushing wilgy. I coudlnt be bothered to explain it earlier

You think it takes creative thinking in a game of over 20 players that there would be 3P's?


That's one of the least creative things I can think of. Put another way, I don't believe I've ever played a game with over 20 players that did not have a 3P.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:19 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:48 am Hmm, I'm not sure who to vote for. Bo flipping might confirm Tutuu or Wilgy, so I'd rather see that resolve first. Time to deep-dive into POE.