The Syndicate

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:39 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:17 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:15 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:07 pm Scotty ( 6 ): EnderWiggin, Golden, Dyslexicon, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, falcon45ca
S~V~S ( 6 ): Scotty, sig, Neon, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Guillotine
Golden ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( 1 ): porscha

Dyslexicon:Voters: Guillotine, RondoDimBuckle, S~V~S, EnderWiggin
SVS: Porscha, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Sloonei, Golden

Ok looking at the scotty voters: Ender + SVS and Golden + Dyslexicon
Looking at the SVS Voters PC + Sloonie, Guillotine is just town to me

its honestly unlikely that both wolves would be on the same wagon so its one in

PC / Sloonie = pc
Ender / SVS = svs
Golden / Dizzy = Dizzy

So porscha is just being an ass and its PC/Dizzy

Bro how am I being an ass about anything...

You said something false, I pointed it out to you and you decided instead of agreeing you said something false to undermine me by trying to meme at me

I was clearly agreeing with you that I was incorrect but found it very funny to use the exact same gif as pc because I am also trying to not get hemorrhoids from this situation

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:32 pm I will do the optimal play.

If it was up to me i'd execute Dyslexicon, but i never get what i want here.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:25 pm What if SvS is a jester?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:23 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:18 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:17 pm If you guys chop Dizzy instead of SVS here and he's town this game will go down in the annals of mafia history

-t

tutuu you haev been wrong on me all game so forgive me if I dont have confidence in your reads

And why would you not vote svs here

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:19 pm Isn't it 100% confirmed that SVS is not town? Didn't we confirm this yesterday, and then flash wagon onto an unsuspecting townie?

Why does everyone keep equating not town with bad?

I'm not town (CONFIRMED!) but I'm not a wolf either. I'm pretty sure your win cons involve wolves, not indies.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:22 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:21 pmAre we 100% certain that the Mod Squad is fully dead?

Yes.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:17 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:16 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:14 pm If I'm voted over SVS here, it will be poetic justice. But also can we like not

Why should i give you the chance you didnt give Scotty by CFD him instead of chopping out SvS.

Touche tbh. But that wasn't just me.

It was you and Golden and you should know better than CFD an unknown slot over a pretty much confirmed anti-town one.

I do hold you to higher standards than everyone else, i do.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:17 pm If you guys chop Dizzy instead of SVS here and he's town this game will go down in the annals of mafia history

-t

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:15 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:07 pm Scotty ( 6 ): EnderWiggin, Golden, Dyslexicon, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, falcon45ca
S~V~S ( 6 ): Scotty, sig, Neon, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Guillotine
Golden ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( 1 ): porscha

Dyslexicon:Voters: Guillotine, RondoDimBuckle, S~V~S, EnderWiggin
SVS: Porscha, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Sloonei, Golden

Ok looking at the scotty voters: Ender + SVS and Golden + Dyslexicon
Looking at the SVS Voters PC + Sloonie, Guillotine is just town to me

its honestly unlikely that both wolves would be on the same wagon so its one in

PC / Sloonie = pc
Ender / SVS = svs
Golden / Dizzy = Dizzy

So porscha is just being an ass and its PC/Dizzy

Bro how am I being an ass about anything...

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:14 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:10 pm Let's vote on my scum partner to spook town and make them second guess themselves.

Svs claims 3p
Do you believe dizzy is also 3p
Or do you think svs will flip wolf if dizzy is wolf

Either way your vote needs to be on svs and not defending it calling it wifom partner vote

SvS gotta be scum as the entire 3P faction is dead, is it not? Didnt Mod Squad die?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:11 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:08 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:06 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:05 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:02 pm Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

Screenshot 2023-03-03 100435.png

catagorically false

ok I am not on 2 of Porscha / Dizzy / PC

Unfortunately Dizzy who Ender is voting is the most town of the bunch. So I have a 66% chance of being correct

Wild that you still cannot come around to the idea that I'm categorically out of my wolf range
What have I done since mac convinced you I was town??
I need you to find me here i cannot have you struggling so hard here there needs to be some cohesiveness between town and I really want to believe you are town even though I worry you arent. So let me help you

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:10 pm Let's vote on my scum partner to spook town and make them second guess themselves.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:07 pm Scotty ( 6 ): EnderWiggin, Golden, Dyslexicon, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, falcon45ca
S~V~S ( 6 ): Scotty, sig, Neon, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Guillotine
Golden ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( 1 ): porscha

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:07 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:06 pm I'm sad you guys, no one @'ed me at all today.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:49 pm I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

Ok, thanks for the tip! [VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

I am pleased to see you guys are at least trying to find someone not 3P. Although tbh, I would have voted for anyone to potentially save myself. Although i really can't win at this point, so whatever.

Bruh anyone not on svs wagon needs to get on it PROMPTLY

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:06 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:05 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:02 pm Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

Screenshot 2023-03-03 100435.png

catagorically false

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:02 pm Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:54 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:50 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:49 pm I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

and then you started talking when Dizzy bounced

-t

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:49 pm I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:47 pm if this is lylo, both mafia will be on the same wagon trying to force a victory: Guillotine, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin or Porscha, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Sloonei, Golden.

For me I cant see Guillo + Ender
But I can see 2 of Porscha / PC / Dizzy

Note SVS is still to vote

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:35 pm

Me on my way back to my Rondo death tunnel tomorrow after SVS flips 3p

-t

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:40 pm This is fucking sad lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:26 pm Let's just kill SVS and go from there. PC is right about that.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:25 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:12 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:19 pm And where the hell is Rondo.

He has not ever questioned me once about my townread on him.

He had been pushing for me from day 1 to day 3, but that went away as soon he was in PC's PoE and i was the only ally.

So?

So? That you could be a wolf who is happy that i defended you so your teammates can use to chop me later, that is the so.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:23 pm I didnt AtE, i stated Facts

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:20 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:01 pm Here is my take on guillo.

On day one, I said ‘there’s a lot of tropey stuff in the wolfreads’. Mac later asked me what I thought was genuinely wolf indicative.

I said: “the challenging of the truthfulness of my read on Kate” (Alison, Seanzie, Guillo, Urist, Scotty.)

And: “saying you’ll contribute more when the game is smaller” (sVS, Michelle, Guillo.)

Guillo being in both of these categories, each of which did legitimately prove to include non-town players for reasons that proved to be legitimately AI.

On day 2/3, wolves had a clear loss of ‘wim’. Guillo simply stoped participating during that point in time, reappearing once town started losing its way again. On day 3 the game was at the size guillo said he could contribute in, he wasn’t there. By now, guillo is in a size of game he can actively solve in, but his tunnel and the breadth of his thinking seems no more broad than day one.

From the very start of this game, Guillo has played in a way that people say is ‘just town’, it’s been out there since day one.

Guillo doesn’t have time or desire to read the thread and keeps derping about it’s content, consistently. Guillo does have time to read his own meta database, though.

The whole thing just doesn’t add up to me. I feel like guillo is playing a role… be actively wolfy, be meta cleared, retain a very narrow tunnel on civs.

Perhaps it just seems more obvious to me, or is confbiased, because I’ve been in guillo’s tunnel the entire game. But there has not been a single moment in this game where guillos reads on me have felt even slightly developed or evolving.

You ate confibiased or just a wolf shielding another wolf. Let me destroy your points one by one.

1) Day 2/3 wolves lost their WIM, how do you figure this. Show me evidence from flipped wolves where they said they did.

Second i lost WIM since day 1 when Hollowkatt petsonally attacked for CORRECTLY scum reading him. Then by MacDougall, then by you. Yes, by you too, you apologized too as far as i remember. I dont know how you deal with that shit but im here to play a game and win, im a very busy person, i only play here like three times a year. So when someone attacks me when im not attacking them personally, yah, it kills my fucking WIM.

In a real world scenario i would do something about it, a punch in the nose or a kick in the balls because it feels great to attack back, it is quite therapeutic!
But in the virtual world where people feel like they can insult other people behind the anonymity of a computer screen and and user name, you dont have that luxury and have to depend on mods to fight back for you. Except sometimes they side with the perpetrators too so, yah that kills your WIM for sure.

NOTHING CAN KILL MY WIM AS EITHER ALIGNMENT EXCEPT PERSONAL ATTACKS!

I do not give up! Ive won games as a wolf in far far worse situations, ive won a game with 12 townies and i was the only scum left. Ive won a game where town had a double elimination feature and town caught two wolves on day 1 and i was a substitute of the third who was pretty much outed scum until i came along.

And as town..Marmot once said in a discord server that the best way to avoid dying as wolf with ne in the game as town and to completely ignore me, which was true back then.
You can't kill my WIM without dirty play.

Guillo doesn’t have time or desire to read the thread and keeps derping about it’s content, consistently. Guillo does have time to read his own meta database, though.

How is this alignment indicative? Yes, i cant read 300 pages but i can read my meta collection which is focused on behavior analysis to help me get a read on people here.
Would you rather i do not use other means i can use to help town at all? Would you rather have me shut up? Silenced? Just because i will not read a book's worth of pages?

Why did you have to frame that post as a shade Golden?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:10 pm Might be an absurd read, but if there is Mafia other than SVS it's probably Ender coz he's the only one who hasn't participated in toxicity or slap fights this whole long and exhausting game

-t

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:24 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:11 pm I think I feel particularly at sea in this game and my reads are not the same as the reads of others.

What names are of greatest concern when you consider these disagreements?

Ender is of the greatest concern, in the sense that if you were to multiply ‘odds of being a wolf’ by ‘odds of not being elimmed’ I’d say his number comes out top.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:32 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:29 pmDyslexicon. What you are doing is LAMIST at its finrst because no town that is not a game thrower is gonna offer up to get killed to “clear themselves” at lylo or close to it.

Im sorry mate but it is what it is.

The whole point is that it is even worse if I stick around and you all use MORE time mischopping me. I'm not offering myself up willingly because it's fun or a good idea. Both options are bad. And it is exactly because it's may be close to lylo that I'm doing it.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:19 pm And where the hell is Rondo.

He has not ever questioned me once about my townread on him.

He had been pushing for me from day 1 to day 3, but that went away as soon he was in PC's PoE and i was the only ally.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:16 pm @EnderWiggin What are your thoughts on the game? Why have you been quiet?

@RondoDimBuckle There is 0% chance that your parity check is fake, and that you're falsely clearing wolf Sloonei, right? Please, Rondo, 0% chance right?

-t

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:09 pm Guillo’s meta post is his towniest post all game.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off

What makes you think there could be a lost wolf?

Read. The. Fucking. Game.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:37 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:02 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:47 pm anyway, I'll repeat what I said to rondo. you literally cannot kill us now unless you either wait until LYLO or you get guillo to pop our vest tonight. and again, if that's your choice, everyone else better stack on SVS to make sure she dies while two of us vote guillo

What is helpful to town about this post, just to remind us that we can't chop you? When would we know when LYLO is?

it was a direct reply to you arguing for everyone else to pivot and focus on chopping us instead

not actually being able to chop us on the first try seems like pertinent information. relevant data, you might say

rondo says nanook told him that lylo is silent but I'm not sure I believe it in a game where half of town has a vote vig. but ok sure, let's assume it is silent:

that just means again, you have to pursue option 2 in order to kill us, and you are instead arguing that guillo should self-vote and just shoot you, so what is even the point of your case? are we scum or not? if we are, why are you falling on your sword and specifically preventing us from having our vest popped? you cannot simultaneously think we're LAWK WOLF and then go out of your way to make it impossible to deal with the LAWK WOLF

that path ONLY makes sense if you are covering for a scum partner to go to end game with an arranged mischop

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:50 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:25 am I really want to vote pc because there is no way a group of people who didn't qualify for the game get to win the game but that is meta angle shooting

So
what's the logical through line here

Party Crasher cannot win so we should vote them out so that...
they don't decide to mafia side in LYLO because it would be funny

you know how else you can make sure mafia don't win LYLO
killing the actually claimed non-town

If your goal is to just kill anybody who's not town kill SVS they have a higher chance of being mafia
not to mention
a higher chance of not being town

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:13 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:01 am Big iso later tonight

I cant wait

Rondo did you wanna join my drinking game? If yes you have to refer to me as slamjam

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:09 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:55 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:01 am Thanks pc. Identical thoughts

Where is your big post?

You gonna pay me or what