The Syndicate

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:56 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:49 am Deepwolf options aren't much.

Scotty and Mac are conf!town.
Michelle should be self-resolving.
Tutuu was suggesting they be voted off instead of desperado'd.
Rondo is currently a top-poster, and still new to forum mafia, I think. So that could mean they're likely too new to be wolfing at this point.
There is no such thing as too new to be wolfing imo, the rand is a gift from RNG gods
I heard countless stories about randing wolf in the first game and winning because they were derp cleared or something

This post is general, adressed for the idea of too new to be wolf, and not a read for Rond.

True to an extent. I remember derping in that one game as wolf. LOL

Deepwolf options aren't much.

Scotty and Mac are conf!town.
Michelle should be self-resolving.
Tutuu was suggesting they be voted off instead of desperado'd.
Rondo is currently a top-poster, and still new to forum mafia, I think. So that could mean they're likely too new to be wolfing at this point.

Koba/Radishes/Made? They're all kinda slankerish. Maybe add Syn/Bo into it.

Voting Koba.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:39 am Yes and his replacement has done nothing at all towny and can die.

Well, I checked the ISO and yes it looks lackluster.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:24 pm so like are MR's reads good or bad everyone?

#1425
You tell me.

Ah, looks like Syn got replaced.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:21 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:54 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:53 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:50 pm kinda mad cuz i read the dya slot as town but i was busy with cute boy and my phone was dead during EoD so
Wait what
their predecessor was very towny in mindset from what i remember i just was not able to really parse it LMFAO

it was just unconventional
Dkkoba complained i didn't read their posts. So i will Iso them in my free time

Anything until this post above is NAI and extremely easy to post as wolf.

This post imo is a slip, they mentioned the predecesor posts of Dya's slot and Creature didn't post a word.
Later in the game when questioned thwyt took it jokey and say 0 is tonwy or something like that (i will not search now for that post)
I don't think town would try to obtain towny points based on a flip and i see DkKoba read for Dya's slot as TMI and a clear proof they are a wolf.

I will call it proof No. 1

Nice catch. Though, did Creature really not post at all? Unless I'm confused due to the heavy mentions of Creature in POE on D1.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:17 am I've been considering this for a while and didn't think it would be necessary, bit I'm realizing that we're going to be in lylo sooner rather than later so I should get my role confirmed asap.

I am going to claim now. Last night, I targeted tutuu. I have an ability that seems anti-town at first but I think you'll come to understand how pro-town this claim is at EoD.

Anyway, my action is that every night I must target another player. The following day, that player will require two extra votes to eliminate. Unfortunately, I misread this at first and thought it would cause the person to require two fewer votes, instead of two more. That's why I targeted tutuu. Silly me!

But this isn't a terrible thing. I think we can confirm my role now. All we have to do is make sure that tutuu has exactly one more vote than the runner-up at EoD. Should be easy. Then the runner-up will be eliminated and tutuu will survive and my role will be proven.

There's nothing to lose so I say we get crackin'! How 'bout y'all?

I assume this means you sussed Tutuu? And, if your role is proven, I don't think it will tell us much about your alignment. But will table this for now.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:58 pm @Ruri why are you voting me?

Oh, you noticed. I'm voting in POE. Tell me about yourself.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:30 pm Host Communication: Please can I ask you all not to discuss other users potential rule breaks in the thread. If you feel like someone has broken a rule, please DM me instead. Thank you.

@112
@Epignosis
@Syn
@Poison
@Master Radishes
@Ruri
@falcon45ca
@sig
@EnderWiggin
@RondoDimBuckle
@tutuu
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Made
@Scotty
@Urist
@DkKoba
@MacDougall
@Michelle
@DrWilgy
@TonyStarkPrime

Shock.

For a second, I thought that was another meme.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:39 am [VOTE: Michelle ] aubergine

Why?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:24 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:05 am Ah well, theory about Wilgy is non-existent. Guess I'll ISO.
This has me very curious.

What was this theory?

#3342

Wilgy's ISO is underwhelming.

Syn is voting Scotty

Nulls probably need sorting.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:05 am if I had a day vig who should I shoot?

I would say anyone in my POE except Syn.

Ah well, theory about Wilgy is non-existent. Guess I'll ISO.

I think no alts were allowed on this site, when I signed up. IIRC.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:55 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:45 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:42 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:39 am I summoned Dr Wilgy.
Si. Whattup? What do you wish to know exactly? How would my opinion of your perspective impact you?
You didn't like my response regarding Tutuu's ISO, was it due to my saying they were generally okay? And yes, I'd say it helps some.
Hmm.. ok I see. Frankl,y I've never been asked for an opinion like this in such a manner and it threw me off.

I don't know how to read your line of questioning. Did you ping me looking for civ cred via an acknowledgement? Did you ping me to gain insight into my head while hunting. I'm not sure.

Regarding Tutuu. Tutuu has a knack of being the fluffiest person on the planet. This is why she's good to pet. Stating that Tutuu's iso is generally ok without direct context/evidence feels like lazy scum play due to Tutuu's meta. Fluffy player is generally ok? That's a red flag.

Hmm, not what I expected. You can't be serious about using meta arguments on a new player?

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:51 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:38 am Ooh.. Things look bad?
things are fine dw

Kewl.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:42 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:39 am I summoned Dr Wilgy.
Si. Whattup? What do you wish to know exactly? How would my opinion of your perspective impact you?

You didn't like my response regarding Tutuu's ISO, was it due to my saying they were generally okay? And yes, I'd say it helps some.

@DrWilgy
See my ping yet?

I summoned Dr Wilgy.

Ooh.. Things look bad?

[VOTE: Radishes] aubergine

Ruri

Conf:
MacDougall, Scotty

TL:
Rondo, Michelle, tutuu

Apparently some mech?:
sig, TonyStarkPrime

Null:
Urist, EnderWiggin, DkKoba, DrWilgy, Poison

IDK/POE:
NANOOK, falcon45ca, Radishes, Epignosis, Made

112, Syn

Tutuu probably has more experience with Syn, so I'll take that into account. 112 is at the bottom partly because I forget the numbers (it helps me remember).

Null can go either way IMO.
The mech duo probably self-resolves or gets outted.
TLs are almost as good as TRs to me, but there's been reservations on like, Tutuu.

Scotty would've been in nulls if not for the confirm. Haven't seen them posted yet Today?

And quoting me... I'd like to hear from @DrWilgy about what I said.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:28 am While Wilgy did mention me, kinda, they probably were justified since I said tutuu's ISO looked okay. On re-reading tutuu's ISO, a lot of it was not at all what I framed it to be. Could have been the tone that bought me over. The pings about setup stuff too.

I kinda TL Scotty because that question towards me was pretty surface-level. So blatantly surface I doubt a wolf would dare do that. Poison is fluffing. Not sure about TSP or 112.

And here's D1 VC:

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:28 am VOTE COUNT:

Syn (4): Ruri, Made, Michelle, tutuu
Scotty (4): Rondo, tedxtr, Ender, Mac
Rondo (3): TSP, Scotty, Urist
Ender (3): Syn, Wilgy, Radishes
112 (2): Epignosis, DkKoba
Epignosis (1): Nanook
sig (1): KZA
tutuu (1): Axe
Urist (1): 112

Not Voting (4): Creature, Sig, Falcon, Poison

Ender's vote looks sus. Though the POE were voting him. Maybe it's just Radishes.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:03 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:01 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:05 am i feel like people do a lot of selective reading when it comes to me and for some its intentional
Who would those players be? Currently don't have much of an idea about you.
tutuu and michelle are the biggest offenders

Which of them are intentional or selective for you?

DkKoba wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:05 am i feel like people do a lot of selective reading when it comes to me and for some its intentional

Who would those players be? Currently don't have much of an idea about you.

So, readlist.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:02 am hot take tedxtr is a scum desperado that flips as town

Isn't that bastard?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:46 am ok i submitted desperado on scotty

i hope i'm wrong

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:47 am tedxtr has died.

Spoiler: show
They were Casimir Bassi: Demolitions Expert

Ayy. Got us another confirm!

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:30 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:28 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:27 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:21 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:59 amCrickets.
I am interested why Syn. I was having a chat with my housemates
Lack of content from D1. Tutuu says she has seen tryhard V!Syn, but isn't Syn's EOD the opposite of tryhard? I'm not sure about Syn's content Today, so it might be an outdated decision. Also, in the one game I was villa with Syn in, he was hard to read through the whole game...untill maybe a few phases before game-end. Safe decision, either way.
I don't think she ever said he was trying hard. Quite the opposite.
@Ruri i have seen tryhard town syn, if he tries hard he is town. however i have seen him be low energy as either ailgnment, and he also said he's busy IRL until the 1st

if ud like to read my post on him again

i can see why maybe its a bit confusing but - syn tryhard is town, but slacking syn is also town. in this case. it is what it is

I see. Lack of a "but" in the original post. Well, didn't know his IRL situation. Makes sense.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:28 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:27 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:21 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:59 amCrickets.
I am interested why Syn. I was having a chat with my housemates
Lack of content from D1. Tutuu says she has seen tryhard V!Syn, but isn't Syn's EOD the opposite of tryhard? I'm not sure about Syn's content Today, so it might be an outdated decision. Also, in the one game I was villa with Syn in, he was hard to read through the whole game...untill maybe a few phases before game-end. Safe decision, either way.
I don't think she ever said he was trying hard. Quite the opposite.

According to her...
"if he tryhards its a towntell for him. he can be low energy as either alignment."
"i believe that it is more likely that if he is mafia, he will put the extra effort for his team to leave a self-pres vote."

If Syn tryhards, it's a towntell? Or am I misreading that she actually meant to say scumtell?

But given what you said in #3410, I guess that should resolve itself.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:21 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:59 amCrickets.
I am interested why Syn. I was having a chat with my housemates

Lack of content from D1. Tutuu says she has seen tryhard V!Syn, but isn't Syn's EOD the opposite of tryhard? I'm not sure about Syn's content Today, so it might be an outdated decision. Also, in the one game I was villa with Syn in, he was hard to read through the whole game...untill maybe a few phases before game-end. Safe decision, either way.

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:59 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:57 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:56 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:52 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:51 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:48 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:42 am

i mean I'm free till 4pm it's 3:11pm i think i can read wallies you post in the mean time.

Why are you not being towny tutuu?
you make a wall post as to why tutuu is wolf but you dont vote? That could be seen as performative
then be it so.

I usually vote near the EoD or when I am sure after ISOing all my scum reads, regardless of alignment.
Just wanted to hear your reasoning as to why. Thats all. If EOD was in 5 minutes would your vote be on tutuu or someone else? If it would be on tutuu, if you couldnt vote her who would your next vote be?
same question for basically everyone else as well if they answer within the next hour or less, if you quote this after an hour from now I think you are scum
Syn
why syn and what do you think about the thread not invested in syn like yesterday?

I'll answer only the one who asked the question TBH.

Crickets.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:56 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:52 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:51 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:48 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:42 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:39 am Poison u askin for a whole can of ass whoopin yea girl
i mean I'm free till 4pm it's 3:11pm i think i can read wallies you post in the mean time.

Why are you not being towny tutuu?
you make a wall post as to why tutuu is wolf but you dont vote? That could be seen as performative
then be it so.

I usually vote near the EoD or when I am sure after ISOing all my scum reads, regardless of alignment.
Just wanted to hear your reasoning as to why. Thats all. If EOD was in 5 minutes would your vote be on tutuu or someone else? If it would be on tutuu, if you couldnt vote her who would your next vote be?
same question for basically everyone else as well if they answer within the next hour or less, if you quote this after an hour from now I think you are scum

Syn

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:32 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:17 pm i think that @Syn is town due to his lack of self-pres. i have played with both town and mafia syn. if he tryhards its a towntell for him. he can be low energy as either alignment. the thing is, he acknowledged that he is on the chopping block. he saw that he is a top wagon and said "maybe i should go read back". he was online 30 minds before eoD iirc (as in he posted itt). i believe that it is more likely that if he is mafia, he will put the extra effort for his team to leave a self-pres vote. thats how most people feel like, since if they are part of a mafia team on discord it feels more intimate. if you are town you dont know your teammates, you might as well be playing solo.

so i think that syn's complete lack of interest (also the "i just voted for the name closest to mine" stuff are too absurd to come from scum. i think he is town

@Syn i need ur help. the good old syn-tutuu one-two combo punch. like the good old times. i got some wolves in my sights but i cant kill them on my own. i need ur big dick energy
@Ruri

Okay so.. Isn't placing a self-pres vote considered tryharding? Looks like the paragraph has 2 segments, with one being a Syn read, and the other being a general read. (I copied this over to Notepad for the background.)

Hmmm okay. Why's Syn town to you, @tutuu?

I also find it hard to remember 112 because that's a friggin number.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:24 am I just hate how you're dismissing literally all my reads lol.

Is that directed at me? I'm honestly down for a Syn wagon again, unless there's anything that Syn has done recently that was redeeming.

While Wilgy did mention me, kinda, they probably were justified since I said tutuu's ISO looked okay. On re-reading tutuu's ISO, a lot of it was not at all what I framed it to be. Could have been the tone that bought me over. The pings about setup stuff too.

I kinda TL Scotty because that question towards me was pretty surface-level. So blatantly surface I doubt a wolf would dare do that. Poison is fluffing. Not sure about TSP or 112.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:46 am Koba (3): Michelle, Sig, Falcon
tutuu (3): Koba, Urist, Mac
112 (2): Epi, Ender
Epi (2): Nanook, Rondo
Scotty (2): Syn, Ted
Nanook (1): tutuu
Poison (1): Ruri
Syn (1): Made

Not Voting (6): Radishes, Wilgy, Scotty, 112, Poison, TSP

Thoughts on the non-voters? IIRC Radishes was sus on D1.

And the read on tutuu is based on what I'm seeing, not ISOs.

FTR, I think tutuu might be villa. Poison was an IDK for me. tutuu/Poison are probably unaligned with the recent back-and-forth.
(I'm also struggling to stay awake since my sleeping schedule was fried, need to get it back in order. So, mafia it is!)

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:29 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:58 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:03 pm I kinda wanted to see how long I could go with the gimmick and retain the ability to get some amount of thoughts across, id say it worked reasonably well and the people paying attention/trying to were mostly able to accurately interpret it.

I'm dropping it now just because I cannot emphasize enough how epi is not townie and should not be townread
What gimmick?
Posting geralt style, just using various forms of hm/mm/fuck/no

Haha, okay.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:20 am
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Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:56 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:38 am
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Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:36 am
Poison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:10 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:38 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:36 am
Can you elaborate your reads a bit?
Mac: IC

Michelle: Had good paranoia about Mac before the IC. Seems to be actively sorting players. Her wolf game is more distant from the thread, IIRC.
Ted: Quite comfortable with having them higher than null for now.

Rondo: The way they're contradicting IC!Mac stands out in a way I'd say is villagery.
Scotty: Saying they won't vote me while insisting I answer their question of telling a story seems too surface-level that I don't see a wolf doing.
Poison: Asked me an irrelevant question, no sorting me out from there. Though, the ISO looks like a lot of that.
Ender: I haven't noticed anything sus from them so far, but haven't really read their posts. But the votes on him could mean there's something I'm not seeing?

Radishes: Wagon "something something" means? The readslist posted also didn't look serious. Lots of fluff IMO.
Tutuu: While I want to say villagery, seems like those who know her better say it's not reliable. Mostly null, but in lower tier to help myself remember.
Syn: Their posts seem lacking in content entirely. No idea TBH. But kinda a policy for me, since I never could read him in that one game we were in before.
These helps.

I dont think i have asked you irrelevant thing tho, mentioned popcorn because that's where I know you from. And the question was made so that you provide some quick rvs like kill target. I don't think it's irrelevant. No response rather answers from you though felt good because I feel like scum would have pointed it out and then chosen targets to answer me as well. I didn't resolve you after that because for a lot of the game I haven't seen you around at the same time as me and forgot about your presence maybe.

What did you like in my iso specifically?
Didn't like anything specific in your ISO, was more referencing how your question + lack of followup is similar to the rest of your ISO. Consistently fluffy. But understandable if you wanted to reference Popcorn Mafia.

What do you think of the list now?

did you read my ISO? Whats your thoughts?
I did try to read it, but there's a lot. I don't recall much when checking it on D1, other than the vote counts you spoilered. One thing I do remember is what I've addressed, where you were insistently refusing to agree with Mac. Going against the grain play. Probably should read ISOs again, later.
I have to admit the part about me incessantly going against the grain made me smile

It's true. Apparently, you're also at 400 posts.

Okay. Back.

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