The Syndicate

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:29 pm We could also be discussing whether we have a secret night 4 or night 5 bomber.

Oh how about a game ending Jester?
Those are always fun.

So while it's not an issue yet as 3 Mafia are still alive, it may become an issue in the future.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:24 pm I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

While true, Neeko will point out the Slavers in Fallout Mafia won if either faction won and overrode that faction winning.
So Town cannot win if all mafia die and Vortis is alive if Vortis is actually the source of the Poisoning.

What if ilario or Dya is Vortis here?
One of them could have claimed HK's dayvig shot that HK never claimed to have made.

Honestly if a 3rd Party faction still exists chances are it'd be the other Slaver from Fallout Mafia.

"Metzger

You run the infamous Slaver's Guild headquartered in the Den. You and all of your people can be readily identified by the slaver tattoos plastered on your foreheads, leaving no doubts to nearly anyone in the wastes that you are not one to fuck with. Your sawed-off shotgun handles everyone else.

You didn't get to where you are without developing a wide array of wasteland survival skills and connections.
Thanks to the protection of your army of thugs, you are 1-shot bulletproof, immune to the first night kill targeted upon you unless it is enhanced by a strongman ability.
You are a 1-shot day vigilante. Once during the game during any day phase, you may select a player (send a personal message to the host). That player will be killed at the end of that day phase.
You are a 1-shot vigilante. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. That player will be killed.
You are a 1-shot doctor. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. That player will be protected from any fatal actions.
You are an intimidator. For every three consecutive day phases in which you do not receive a vote in the final poll tally, you will begin the following phase with one vote automatically removed from you in the elimination poll. These do not stack.

Vortis

You run your own Slaving operation right at the outskirts of the NCR capital city. They won't let you operate within city limits, but they tolerate you outside as long as you limit your stock to the uncivilized tribal populations roaming the region. You also work directly against the NCR Rangers, whose various outposts in the area serve to thwart slavery -- you can't have that (the NCR as a general faction is not your enemy).

Your slaving network covers the breadth of the wastes south of New Reno, where you have gleaned much about the region from captured tribes.
Thanks to the security of your compound and proximity to the NCR capital, you are 2-shot commuter. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may enact this ability to render yourself immune to all night actions targeted upon you.
You're a doublevoter. Each day phase vote you place will be worth two votes.
You're a 2-shot poisoner. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may select a player. At the end of the following night phase, that player will die. They will not be informed of the poison.
You're a tiebreaker. If any day phase elimination poll ends in a tie, you will be given 10 extra minutes to indicate to the host how you would like to break the tie. If this presents unfair time zone problems, this will instead become a 1-shot passive tie-winner ability. The first time any tie occurs featuring at least one member of any enemy faction, that player will be eliminated. If it's neither or both, it will be randomized. Only one of these abilities will ever exist and that will be determined during Phase 0.
You're a 2-shot limited watcher. Twice during the game during any separate night phase, you may select a player. You will be told who targeted that player that night if anyone. This cannot detect fatal actions."

Merzger flipped already. And 2-shot Posioner makes sense actually.

Isn't the whole point of 3rd parties to be their own faction of themselves so when 1 dies their whole "faction" is eliminated?

Actually forgot to factor in the fact a Mafia Goon just flipped so role could not have been chosen.
Given that paopan actually may always be Town since neeko isn't sure many would recognize Paopan to pick Paopan as a player.

Pretty sure it's going to end up being Paopan, JPIC, and Wiggly.
Sabie doesn't seem like they are going to be Mafia.
ilario or dya may flip scum just because another dayvig flipped Town, but are low priority.
sloonie or Creature also might, but just don't seem more likely than the above 3.

So with alexa dead at the end of the day that leaves the following alive for the lynch.

Belzy
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei
falcon45ca
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Paopan
Porscha
sabie12
Sloonei

Porscha, Falcon, and Belzy are confirmed Town

So 3 mafia in here sine Alexa is pretty much guaranteed Town.
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
Sloonei

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:01 pm ok me/sabie/belzy killed mac with our event prize vig

also omg can anyone heal me .-.

3 people got vig and all shot the same person?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:02 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:01 pm ok me/sabie/belzy killed mac with our event prize vig

also omg can anyone heal me .-.
Nice

So sabie and belzy confirmed then?

Neeko thought one of them said that Toxic was only something that effected them.
This would be another role that target poisons wouldn't it?

Guessing MR was the mystery shot on Scotty. Also glad mac was just open wolfing honestly a relief.

Sorry haven't been on much the last day or so. Things just got really busy fast and really am just posting before going to crash asleep. Weill probably get a few posts in before day end though after catching up.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:40 am Want some solution? I'll give you flips that could helpmo

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Call it WIFOM but the kill makes sense from LP's perspective

Dya, Alexa, and Belzy are "universally" town read since day 1 yet they are still alive when 50% of the players are already down.

Okay ^^ I'll push LP today, lock vote if no one would flip during this day.

Honestly I don't trust anyone here at this point. Might as well get it over with.

All my primary pushes are still alive (ex. 112, Wigly, alexa, TSP)
So... For this day (3)
I'll leave it to you all for now to do some solving and I'll enjoy my weekend someplace else.
I'll come back probably before EoD or if the mods notifies a day kill or other mindblowing events.

Why does Sabie's vigilante shot make sense that Neeko told her to shoot c4?
Like unless you want to claim that Sabie is Mafia claiming the Mafia NK, but c4 doesn't seem like someone the Mafia would shoot since he was in a few people's PoE.
This just doesn't make sense.

Man, Neeko's less confident in Mac being a partner with TSP now that shes reading back over it.
Mac is probably still PoE just because Neeko doesn't see a good way to confirm Mac is Town.
But Mac is just about at the point where he's too wrong to be wolf. Like Neeko doesn't see why he'd even hard defend TSP, then push someone who shot Mafia, then also push other townie people as Mafia.
No offense is meant to be given here, but Mac feels like a better Mafia player than that if he were Mafia.

Honestly though Masons is surprisingly a lot more reasonable than what Neeko thoguht the situation was.
Neeko thought Belzy was a cop with a N0 Town peak on Porscha. Though now she can see why they were so pockety of each other.
It really did look like scum buddies though lol.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:18 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:17 am Let’s play a quick game of mafia while we wait for this phase to end. I’ll send out roles.
Are we even allowed to PM players with their roles to play mafia within a mafia game?

OK, maybe we do something like post a spoiler full of roles and people only click their own spoiler.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:17 am Let’s play a quick game of mafia while we wait for this phase to end. I’ll send out roles.

Better idea. Let's just have every current mafia be mafia.
We just need to start lnching people and rely on people saying their alignment when they get lynched.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:13 am
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:05 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:03 am Is there any way for this day to end already? Don’t see the point in dragging on 48hrs to kill tsp
No. Do you know any board game that can be played in a thread and that doesn't require PMing the players?
i spy

or forum mafia

Neeko would also pose this as an option.

Syn browsing the thread like "oh no they're going to play games other than this game in the thread,"

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:05 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:03 am Is there any way for this day to end already? Don’t see the point in dragging on 48hrs to kill tsp
No. Do you know any board game that can be played in a thread and that doesn't require PMing the players?

Why yes. Neeko would love to take the time to advertise her game in the Casion.
You should really go check it out and make Neeko happy.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:03 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:02 am JPIC, Pao, Wilgy all part of my current POE

I'm also wary of Belzy & Porscha
Why none of you even touch Sloonei? They've been lurking in the online list for hours.

Honestly neeko kind of thought Sloonei was dead.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:57 pm ok but please do not kill porcha/belzy

We weren't even going to kill them today.

Alexa just threw everyone in the pot themselves included.

OK, but you just outed yourself and 2 people for souping.
Fair that you dont want Belzy and Porscha sused, but that is stupid since they weren't getting lynched today anyways.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:49 pm i harmclaim town 3-shot rolecop with some restrictions that i won't say incase that stops me from being souped (think of guillo's role and think my restrictions relate to that type of thing)

n0: nutella arsonist

n1: roleblocked

n2: porcha is a toxic mason. so i think belzy is too. idk anything else. or what toxic means. but they are clear/masons. i only checked them because i got paranoid as fuck after that last EOD and realized a ton of my reads could've been wrong

this may be a dumb AF claim but w/e.

@ilario

Why would you ever think this is OK to post with a soup kill still on the table?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:43 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:23 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:21 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:16 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:01 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:00 pm

Pretty sure LinearPoint did something...
Linearpoint, Creature, Ilario, Alexa

This is my solve.

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so LP would have to be lying about giving alexa vest and alexa would have to lie about it popping while ilario harrasses alexa all game . idk
ilario 100% would do exactly that with alexa otherwise it would be obvious they are teammates because ilario as town always does that to mafia alexa
You're theory is all kinds of wack.
It'd have to be that Alexa was Mafia Bulletproof and ilario coach Neeko to fake claim giving a vest to Alexa.
And why does Creature then show up in the solve? It just feels randomly tacked on.
How are you even still alive when you scumslipped d1 and both players who caught you were night killed?
sorry to inconvenience you mac especially if it got posted further down where I haven't read yet, but could you post the slip from LP and who caught it? (no need to respond if you already did - I'll catch up)

He thinks neeko had made a false slip with not knowing what soup kill did because she missed that part of the OP or it was edited later.
Nutella said that she also thinks she didn't see soup initially so pretty sure it was edited after Neeko read it.
Neeko did read the thread as soon as it was posted since she was on, so it's probable that's what happened.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:40 pm Is it sprityo being the good head?

Hydra playing some good head bad head.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:39 pm so obviously ilario is not mafia so I'm gonna just tunnel jpic now

Neeko is strangling you if you are Town when this is over.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:31 pm I just don't understand how people can't see that I am right. It's maddening. I've been spitting facts all day.

Says the guy who claimed that falcon is obvious lying and TSP comes in an lolcats.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:26 pm I am numero uno on the poe of the mafia yes.

That's not what Neeko said.

We are not killing anyone but TSP today. That is just asking to give Mafia the opportunity to mislynch even if the target is likely wolf.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:25 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:24 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:23 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:21 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:16 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:01 pm

Linearpoint, Creature, Ilario, Alexa

This is my solve.

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so LP would have to be lying about giving alexa vest and alexa would have to lie about it popping while ilario harrasses alexa all game . idk
ilario 100% would do exactly that with alexa otherwise it would be obvious they are teammates because ilario as town always does that to mafia alexa
You're theory is all kinds of wack.
It'd have to be that Alexa was Mafia Bulletproof and ilario coach Neeko to fake claim giving a vest to Alexa.
And why does Creature then show up in the solve? It just feels randomly tacked on.
How are you even still alive when you scumslipped d1 and both players who caught you were night killed?
Well you'd never kill Neeko at night given you think she scum slipped when she didn't.
what does this even mean?

Well you'd not tell the Mafia to kill Neeko and you're number uno on PoE.

Honestly the wording of "Super Third Party" kind of implies it was the only one?

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:23 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:21 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:16 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:01 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:00 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:53 pm linearpoint also goes in that world hand in glove
Pretty sure LinearPoint did something...
Linearpoint, Creature, Ilario, Alexa

This is my solve.

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so LP would have to be lying about giving alexa vest and alexa would have to lie about it popping while ilario harrasses alexa all game . idk
ilario 100% would do exactly that with alexa otherwise it would be obvious they are teammates because ilario as town always does that to mafia alexa
You're theory is all kinds of wack.
It'd have to be that Alexa was Mafia Bulletproof and ilario coach Neeko to fake claim giving a vest to Alexa.
And why does Creature then show up in the solve? It just feels randomly tacked on.
How are you even still alive when you scumslipped d1 and both players who caught you were night killed?

Well you'd never kill Neeko at night given you think she scum slipped when she didn't.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:16 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:01 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:00 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:53 pm linearpoint also goes in that world hand in glove
Pretty sure LinearPoint did something...
Linearpoint, Creature, Ilario, Alexa

This is my solve.

React
so LP would have to be lying about giving alexa vest and alexa would have to lie about it popping while ilario harrasses alexa all game . idk
ilario 100% would do exactly that with alexa otherwise it would be obvious they are teammates because ilario as town always does that to mafia alexa

You're theory is all kinds of wack.
It'd have to be that Alexa was Mafia Bulletproof and ilario coach Neeko to fake claim giving a vest to Alexa.
And why does Creature then show up in the solve? It just feels randomly tacked on.

The problem with ilario suspicion is it's the same as Dya suspicion and Mafia viging Mafia with only 7 members total doesn't feel like something that any sane player would do.
It's also boarderling even sussing Falcon since the same argument applies that red checking a Mafia just doesn't come from Mafia.
Ilario would need to be some kind of Day SK to be scum.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:10 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:53 pm Ilario and Creature being mafia also would explain the gamestate wholus bolus.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:53 pm linearpoint also goes in that world hand in glove
I'm open to this possibility. creature and LP both pushing me harder today despite me making the most townie posts I've made all game (imo) so I'm not liking it.

I felt creature was fairly townie day 2 but the doom posting and throwing a ton of possible reads (some seemed good at the time) + sudden interest in me when I don't recall any interest in me prior is less than ideal

Honestly your response has felt more townie, but it's more just the fact it's the first posts that have felt townie.
You really just seemed to be coasted a maybe greencheck as if you were confirmed and not been really making an active effort in scumhunting.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:55 pm @Porscha we are all amateurs by definition lol.

If everyone's clowns, then you're the whole circus.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:43 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:41 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:39 pm Like sure she could have been vested but my point is until I see a town role die that can gives vests there is nothing to verify that claim
OK Neeko thinks she can word this vague enough to not get souped.
Neeko gave Alexa a vest night 1. Neeko didn't realize until now that it gave feedback to the wearer when popped.
So yeah it's pretty much confirmed Alexa got shot last night.
-___________-

Sorry, but Neeko is confident that claim can't be correctly souped.

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:39 pm Like sure she could have been vested but my point is until I see a town role die that can gives vests there is nothing to verify that claim

OK Neeko thinks she can word this vague enough to not get souped.
Neeko gave Alexa a vest night 1. Neeko didn't realize until now that it gave feedback to the wearer when popped.
So yeah it's pretty much confirmed Alexa got shot last night.

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:33 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:28 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:25 pm As Neeko thinks about it more Alexa getting shot and having a vest popped actually kind of makes sense.
Neeko didn't think vests informed someone they got shot though, but since they do Alexa might be cleared if it wasn't a Vigilante shot.
sabie just claimed her vigilante shot was used on c4 ftr.
Then yeah Alexa had to have been shot by Mafia then.
I think I was the factional NK if it wasn’t c4

No, Neeko knows Alexa had a bulletproof vest so if Alexa got shot by not-Mafia then there's an unclaimed shot somewhere since she said her vest popped.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:28 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:25 pm As Neeko thinks about it more Alexa getting shot and having a vest popped actually kind of makes sense.
Neeko didn't think vests informed someone they got shot though, but since they do Alexa might be cleared if it wasn't a Vigilante shot.
sabie just claimed her vigilante shot was used on c4 ftr.

Then yeah Alexa had to have been shot by Mafia then.

As Neeko thinks about it more Alexa getting shot and having a vest popped actually kind of makes sense.
Neeko didn't think vests informed someone they got shot though, but since they do Alexa might be cleared if it wasn't a Vigilante shot.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:06 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:04 pm Thinking JPIC might be wolf by POE
Getting sick of being labelled as a wolf for no reason tbh

First time?
Yeah Neeko's been feeling that all game.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:04 pm why is TSP just lolcatting in response to falcon's claim and not trying when he's been high-efforting this game idgi, i'm worried if that just means he's a less powerful role and other partners are in danger

counterpoint, who cares?

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:56 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:56 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:55 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:54 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:54 pm How many wolves do people think are in mac and falcon. 1 or 2 and if it’s one does anyone think it’s falcon?
0
Then ur saying ur the wolf?
wut
There’s not enough room left for u all to be town imo

Who are your other Mafia and Town that only leaves mac and Falcon?

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:54 pm How many wolves do people think are in mac and falcon. 1 or 2 and if it’s one does anyone think it’s falcon?

Falcon is never Mafia. A hard bus at this stage in the game is unthinkable.

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:46 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:44 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:42 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:40 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:39 pm Alexa can u out how ur role works

If u were shot that means mafia are gonna kill u tonight anyways
what's the point of outing that RN though?

i don't have any other info right now
Because the more info the better, some stuff about ur role confused me and I can’t find u if I think ur hiding info
there is a very very very good reason for me not to claim right now.

you can find me on account of i was shot by wolves.
If someone outs with a vest on you then yeah I can buy into that, but there’s nothing that actually proves u were shot by wolves

c4 could also have blocked it.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:35 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:16 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:07 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:55 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:41 pm Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, seanzie, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha
So 5 unconfirmed on the top 2 wagons with the top 6 flipping Green (minus Wiggly)
Either all wagons were wrong and Mafia decided to just not care who they voted or that means one of Wiggly or Porscha are Mafia.
Right now, Neeko is leaning a bit more on the possibility that none of those wagons were Mafia.

Working under the above assumption:
Working Mafia team may be: TSP, Mac, Paopan, Porscha, and 1 of Alexa/belzy.
Paopan did a lot of vote switting end of day and drove the wagon off TSP who was 4th highest at the time onto Wiggly so Paopan and Wiggly are never Mafia togther and it looks like Paopan is scummier than Wiggly.
Mac's been shieldng TSP hard so obviously Mac.
Porscha since neeko's had suspicions on them ever since Neeko's initial scum read was so easily dismissed and the wagon on Porscha day 1 vanished instantly.
Belzy has been defending Porscha a lot with no real reason that Neeko has seen, so if one is Mafia both are Mafia.
Alexa was trying to push NAA wagon EoD. So was ilario but ilario shot Mafia.

Still having trouble really reading Sloonei and Creature, but both felt town from yesterday.
JPIC is also a null read still as Neeko hasn't felt strongly Town or Mafia on them all game. If neeko is wrong about one of the above them this might be the last Mafia.
okay well idk why there is dichotomy between me and wilgy from wagon voting when eod 1 I was not being wagon'd at all and you were still the only vote on me. even c4 didnt bother putting vote on me and you were entirely riding off his read of me
also it's been made clear that the reason belzy is clearing me is due to mech. understandable to read us as a potential pair but idk why you're assuming it's automatically wolfy. I guess you're doing that b/c you are *still* trying to make a push on me based on c4's push on me day1 just because I came into thread late and apologized 1 too many times for not being caught up. maybe it was easily dismissed b/c it isn't a strong read on me that proves anything about me being wolfy. I think you are gut reading me incorrectly or you are one of the possible wolves who will come for me via day lynch as I said they would. I bet you'd really like to know my role so you could nk me - like your push suggests - but you don't so you will try to day lynch me instead. I am an amateur forum mafia player, participating in a huge game where I have not played with a majority of the players here, I am feeling nervous in my reads and that the thread moves a million miles an hour is difficult as well. I think you - all of us - should spend more time evaluating one of the 5 vigi claims since that's obviously has wolf in it. unless you are a wolf of course - then you would have no interest in evaluating that situation :^)
You've not had good posts and seem to just be riding on Belzy softing they had a green peak on you D1 and acting like it is true even though Belzy never commited to saying so just saying that they know you're Town. You've been slanking, you've not bee helping Town, and the more time that passes the less believable Belzy is with you being lock Town. Neeko made her own post on why she thought you were scum from your D1 posts an dyou're ignoring it completely and trying to dismiss it as just going off of c4's reads. You have yet to make one singular post that makes me think you are Town. Belzy's mech clear be damned it was probably made up anyways and you're just assuming that was even belzy's inention (assuming Belzy and you are not both Mafia). Neeko has also made numerous posts about her opinion on the vigilante claims and does believe WCS one of Dya and Ilario are a 3p and Sabie is pretty much guaranteed to be Town Vigilante. You're also disregarding that one of the 5 claims has already flipped wolf and hte other 2 vigilante claims have shot mafia or is Sabie who Neeko explicitly doesn't see as Mafia.
I guess from your point of view I sort of see where you are coming from with the belzy read. but if we are mafia then why would belzy only clear me based on mech claim, and literally nobody else? do you think we are a pair of mafia making ourselves very noticeable while the other 3 remaining mafia don't say a word about it? like do you think that comes from wolf play to save a noob mafia or town play trying to avoid soup or 3p with win condition on each other? like which do you think is likely in this scenario is what I'm asking.
also yeah sorry I dont recall your specific issues with me other than a bad day 1 entrance and it's fair for you to say you dont feel my posts are townie but if they also aren't reading as mafia then idk why you're gunning after me so hard when there is more contentious issues (imo) at hand. I'd understand if you sus'd me because I dont feel strong town but there's been some pretty wolfy stuff going on outside of me so it seems like misplaced focus imo.
also yeah I still consider one of teh vigi claims who shot marmot possible mafia so b/c of that, dya isnt out of the possible mafia pool imo

Well neeko has a theory on what Belzy is trying to hint at their role being and it would make sense if Neeko's theory is correct. Neeko doesn't want to give details since soup, but Neeko has a theory that in her head does work for a claim hint. You do have a somewhat fair point that no one else is commenting on it, but if Mafia got away with faking a green check on another then it'd make sense the Mafia don't acknowledge it or push it. Also Belzy could still have faked a green on you to see your reaction in which case if you were Mafia with a Town or 3p Faking a green check on you the read of the Mafia would absolutely not try to push that it's fake. The main issue with your posts has been a combination of the bad entry and not doing anything else really. You appear to just be coasting off Belzy really and that is what makes me think you are scum.

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