The Syndicate

Hello goobers.

If you ask or demand that I either place a vote for someone or remove a vote from someone, I am obligated to comply by my role. So don't fuck with me.

I guess I'll have to use the host voting option for the latter unless an unvote is added to the poll.

If anyone fucks with me.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Oh maybe not

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

This is one way to get me to do this

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:50 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:45 am Hello goobers.

If you ask or demand that I either place a vote for someone or remove a vote from someone, I am obligated to comply by my role. So don't fuck with me.

vote yourself

*does it again*

Hally's miller claim is civilian.

I don't care about ensuing miller claims.

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine
[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine
[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine
[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine
[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:02 pm Excuse you THREE hard claimed millers

Four when Jay gets here and has to claim miller to dodge my N0 red on him!

I'm not a miller!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:15 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:15 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:11 pm I think all three miller claims are town!

Council of millers ftw

I don't believe you believe this.

I don’t believe I care

Nanook is bad

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:26 pm I unironically think that a voting bloc of me/FG/Tony/Hally/one more is a good idea

Voting blocs are swell.

Building on with "who claimed miller?" is b/s

Epignosis is a civilian for shitting in my cereal when I wasn't here yet.

Hally is a civilian for being the first miller claim and for displaying ~[the energy]~

Wisp is a civilian for ordering me to vote for a dude before I determined I agreed with him.

sabie12 is a civilian for acknowledging the miller claim pile in a way that suggests she doesn't give a crap.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:02 am You must be new here.

Nanook isn't getting removed Day 1 even if he is bad.

Why not?

Let's go beautiful Civilian Jacks. Breathe sweet life into this thread with your distinctly civilian breaths, and let us catch concurrent whiffs of those breaths such that we may find one another.

I want half the game out of the POE pool before Day 1 is over. Let's move.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:48 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:47 am [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

this probably has negative reprecussions for me, but
vote for yourself

Why does this have negative repercussions for you?

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:07 am how am I going to analyze votes, when the votes are always changing
am I going to have to screenshot old vc's?

As long as people call their votes in the thread, you can always find them by searching the code word:

"Aubergine"

It's attached to every vote. If people don't call their votes, let me know and I will give them a fatherly scolding.

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]

I'm sick of watching you suffer tragic losses. If you're a civilian, please do me a favor and make it as plain to me as possible. You don't have to play at the level of Game 7 if you don't have that in you right now, but please try to show me those goods. I think you're reasonably readable as long as you want to be.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:49 pm Epi soft locked as town imo

What is "soft locked" and how does that make sense?

I see no reason to call Long Con a civilian.

I see no reason to call Funnygurl555 a civilian. I may harbor active suspicion of her merely for being so quiet to start an otherwise active game.

I see no reason to call DrWilgy a civilian.

I think other people are playing. Let me look. Yeah they have no posts yet.

15 players. I want a POE pool of 7 before Day 1 over. Right now I have 10:

ColinIsCool
Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy
sprityo
Spacedaisy
KitsuShel
Alison
Nanook
Funnygurl555

Three civilians among you: come out of hiding and join us in a merciless slaughter. The Syndicate prides itself in strong town play, and if we're honest with ourselves we have not shown that lately. Change the paradigm and reclaim your glory.

Note that we need to remain in a state of high urgency at all times. Jack is a host from the HC Realms tree, and that means we cannot trust conventional assumptions about how alignments may be distributed. When I see 15 players, I tend to assume 12 vs. 3 is the most standard. With Jack though, I will not count out 11 vs. 4 or even 10 vs. 5 (with potential independent involvement too). It depends upon the arrangements of the roles he has decided to feature.

The point is that we cannot fart around in a Jack game. Play hard at all times or suffer the consequences.

What are you referring to regarding the "raised hand" Wisp?

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:48 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:45 am What are you referring to regarding the "raised hand" Wisp?

I asked people to raise their hand, aka type o/ if they are town
and Con responded almost immediately
wolves more or less avoid these posts usually, or respond with the wrong answer

like I said, I will see how it translate into his posts though

Cool beans. It doesn't mean anything to me regarding Long Con (specifically Long Con), but I'll let you do your thing.

[mention]Hally[/mention] how do you distinguish among the others that have claimed miller when you decide Tony seems okay and the others are joking?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:05 am >game started and I didnt even know, alright bet

You're right on time. The game isn't difficult to read; the posts are small. I'm ready for your takes sprityo. You've an underrated penchant for making strong early reads, and you're also the only player on The Syndicate other than myself to be >50% in win rate with over 40 games played. Let's ruin those who would threaten our claim to glory, yes?

Also nice post #6,000

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:20 am Hey there. I don't know wtf is happening in here. I have actually read everything though, so solid start. Hi Jay, you can take me out of that pool.

I just might. Sometimes you draw undue suspicion just by way of lower content, but you can be read for the authenticity of your play. And this is a good start to that. Just do your thing your way and I'll get there.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:15 am I dont think hally made that weird gimmick i just said that quick so TSP can have my vote

[VOTE: tony] aubergine

Why Tony among the millers?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:01 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:49 pm Epi soft locked as town imo

what does soft locked as town even mean

It means I think he’s *probably* cleared but I reserve the right to change my mind later if he does something that negates it

Basically he did something/didn’t do something that I think is townie but it’s too early in the day to hard lock it cause Epi is not a bad player, so for now it’s a soft lock and if it continues to happen/not happen then it becomes a hard lock later

I’ve done this successfully in the past, notably in the alien game we just played and on D1 (I think?) of take me out at the ballgame

Okay. I agree with your read. I don't know what you're talking about, but I'll leave you to that.

Early takes on our new arrivals:

Spacedaisy - good
sprityo - meh

Given my [limited] experience playing with and observing Funnygurl, I would describe her civilian play as engaged, dangerous, and alive. She reminds me of Literal Jack in that way.

Her seven posts so far strike me as timid, and the miller claim is meaningless. This isn't the start I would anticipate from her.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:33 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:05 am @Hally how do you distinguish among the others that have claimed miller when you decide Tony seems okay and the others are joking?

um, idk? fg’s and nanook’s looked like jokes to me but tony seemed like he intended his to be serious

he had that thing about “it’s conditional” which i don’t get really (how can a miller be conditional? conditional on what?) but seemed serious. also his reaction to wisp voting him for “trying to discredit hally’s claim” where he was like “no im trying to do the opposite” seemed legit?

like idk, just the way he’s gone about it seems like he intends the claim to be taken seriously whereas nanook and fg do not. whether that makes tony’s claim real is another thing but im not sure why he’d think being the second one to claim miller would be a good idea as scum

Cool cool cool. I tend to agree with the orange bit.

I'm a bit bugged that sprityo elected to make his initial contribution a generic vote-the-miller-claim, and he chose player I view as the least suspicious non-Hally among them (Tony).

In a sprityo-knows-a-claimer-is-mafia-and-is-their-teammate-kind-of-TMI-manner-hyphen-words

Nanook handles business differently from me, and I am going to let him do that. If I don't like that slot at EOD1 though I have no interest in handing out free passes.

I think this game is off to a strong start. I feel pretty decent about the state of things and about the civilian reads I have generated so far. Keep this up and we'll be just fine gang.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:52 am I also dislike the “lol nanook does nothing” narrative that people push sometimes, in game and out, it’s fucking annoying and not generally true.

Is this a read you've seen in this game yet? I don't mean suggest it hasn't happened; I am literally asking.

Nanook, whaddya like about Funnygurl?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:11 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:12 am @TonyStarkPrime

I'm sick of watching you suffer tragic losses. If you're a civilian, please do me a favor and make it as plain to me as possible. You don't have to play at the level of Game 7 if you don't have that in you right now, but please try to show me those goods. I think you're reasonably readable as long as you want to be.

Has TSP done anything to make you react like this?

This post confuses me greatliy

He has lost a crapload of games in recent memory despite lasting a while in them and often playing quite well. I want him motivated.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 am Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Why are those posts really bad?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:23 am #269 and #270 had really high levels of "look at me, I'm so town!" energy, which I generally associate with mafia. This is because mafia tends to be much more concerned with how they look to the rest of the town than a townie, and will be actively trying to make themselves look as town as possible. Of course town also has an incentive to try to appear as townie as possible but I think crafting a post specifically to try to exude that kind of energy is >rand mafia. The random jab at funnygurl felt really out of place as well.

Welcome to the JaggedJimmyJay Experience.

First stop: eliminating half the game from the suspect pool by the end of Day 1.

Next stop: sweet civilian victory

I don't give a shit about "appearances". I am completely serious. If you're a civilian then get the hell out of my POE pool please.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:28 am This post doesn't do anything to change my read sorry

Groovy. Cool beans. You don't know me at all, and you're not the first to react this way at first exposure. You just do your thing and I'll be the judge.

My read on Nanook is reversing. Probably a civilian.

General statement:

I know folks think the things I say and do are a "shtick" or something, but I hope we'll all at least look deeper than the surface appearances of whatever. Even if you think my behavior is "NAI", please take the substance of that play seriously.

I think we are off to a fantastic start, and my POE goal is very much attainable. So let's work together. That's something civilian teams have been doing too little of around here lately. And I'm supposed to be the galvanizing force that changes that. I mean to live up to that in this game if you'll have me. Game 6 of the champs tournament revealed to me some of the things I've lost sight of lately too; I had gotten away from some of the most important things that I do well. JJJ is back, and that means everyone on my team is my favorite human alive. Let's get it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:35 am Maybe we should form our own council jay

We can call it the “I don’t think what you’re doing should work but it clearly does so ok I guess” council

Werd.

Werd.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:33 am and im reluctant to go here because of how dominant a scum performance i just saw from alison but she actually already vibes differently to me than space invaders. i feel... eh about this read rn but it’s something maybe

This is a read for which I expect to experience conflict. Even from the vantage point of a spoiled spectator in Space Invaders, I felt Alison made some very solid posts. So I am going to be leaning on the people that played in that game when it comes to interpreting her play. I'm not sure I'm going to have an easy time calling her a civilian otherwise.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:39 am if im being as generous as i can i can call these people town

epi
jay
wisp
space
nanook
tony
alison
sabie

this already feels like too many town reads for this stage in the game, but that’s par for the course for me. i promise i’ll reevaluate at some point

This would give you the Holy POE Pool of Seven.

I think our views of the game so far are closely aligned. I would express less confidence in Alison and Tony, but the day is very young.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:41 am Jay:

They call me LeBron JJJames